Which CPU to use for a Ventura Hackintosh build in 2023?
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
- In this video I discuss which CPU to buy for a hackintosh build running Ventura in 2023. I discuss compatibility, performance compared to the Apple M2, which SMBIOS definition to choose, and any additional steps needed to get them working.
Buy the i5-13500 CPU: amzn.to/3n6Y9O3
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Links:
Opencore Bootloader: github.com/acidanthera/OpenCo...
OpenCore Auxiliary Tools: github.com/ic005k/OCAuxiliary...
CPU Topology Rebuild Kext: github.com/b00t0x/CpuTopology...
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Would love to see a 2023 build guide with the latest tools release. As a newbie, I know we have alot of documentation, but sometime is overwhelming and I find your videos to be very useful. So hopefully will see something in the near future. Thank you for your awesome videos :)
My Hackintosh based on 6th gen (skylake) i7-6700k and it's running Ventura 13.3.1 without any issues
This is just the video i was looking for! Thanks for all the time you invested to make this!
I was planning on buying my first Apple computer, but I just don't have the cash to get anything with a reasonable amount of RAM and disk space. This is great information; Thank you.
Mmmm quite informative. Thank you so much. Keep up the good work.
Great video and full of useful info. Very clear and on point. thanks.
Great job again! :)
thanks for this video, i was inbetween 2 mini pc's one had a Ryzen, the other the 13th gen i9, so this was very helpful.
Thank you. Very useful and understandable explains
Yes sir have earned on my subscription. Thank you very much for your great effort in making this video. Very informative
Thanks, Very useful as I am about to build one and must choose between intel and amd.
Thank for sharing, many help to who use hackintosh🍀
Great video !!!! Thanks
Great video. very informative
great job ;-) 👍💪🙂
Thank you so much.
I'm just using an old i7 6700(Sky Lake) with a RX570 xt as an iMacPro1,1 and it works great.
Great video!
Thanks!
Thank you for your videos of processors and gpus supported by Hackintoh, they have been very helpful, however, you can support us by making a video of the supported motherboard chipsets. I would really appreciate it very much.
Hi, thanks for this amazing video. Can you tell us, What Motherboard and Dedicated Video Card you recommended to use on Hackintosh with MacOs Ventura? Thanks.
have in mind that you can OC most of the intel chips, i've went all in into 9700K clocking it to 5GHz and keeping in mind that it's a mid-range built thats three years old now - it's a screamer. There was a big hype with M1 chips and it bashes the Mini badly in Adobe apps while providing you with options to update the hardware for pennies.
Please make complete setup guide with i5 13500 processor, focusing on logic pro x
You can do this with the motherboards and rams an ssd etc best case escenario to not the best 💪🏻
Hello, Excellent video, the core i5 11400f is compatible for Hackintosh @BarTech TV?
Great if you can do same for Proxmoxx option. Would be good to know how old CPU can be whose integrated GPU will support passthru
W guide
Can you comment on which motherboards with Thunderbolt 4 for the 13th gen (Z690 or higher)
please make a video for best motherboards in 2023 for hackintosh...regards ant thank you very much for your videos!!
Could you make a video on which CPU is the best for Sonoma?.
Very informative video, thanks a lot!) Guess I'll stick with 10th Gen for now, "if it works, don't fix it", and then we'll see) It was also an interesting retrospetve, seeing the more or less recent Intel tech trying to fare against the basic M2😄 They did a great job at Apple, but I personally strongly dislike their recent desktop hardware lineup:/ Could've done so much better, IMO, half of the configs they offer, as always, are simply laughable, unusable for pretty much anything but web surfing and social media.. that's totally intentional, probably.
Can you please make a video on how make and install mac os on 13500 with z790 asus tuf gaming plus board
very nice video for CPU. thank you! BTW, I have a question. My main goal is to use Adobe CS, the most current version. If I use proxmox with AMD CPU and GPU support.. does it run Adobe applications without much of problem ?
I haven't tried it myself. The reason that Adobe apps don't work properly on Ryzen in macOS is because of missing instructions. So for Adobe apps to work properly then Proxmox must emulate the missing instructions in software. I don't know if it does that, but there is a thread on Reddit from somebody who had basically the same question as you and later said that it did work. Here is a link - www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/eo057x/would_running_a_ryzen_hackintosh_vfio_setup_allow/
what config.plist guide should i follow if i want to use a 11th gen or newer cpu?
I would say the Xeon w-32xx series cpu would arguably be the “most future proof” cpu at this point since Apple still sells Mac Pros based on this cpu. Even if you disagree it still belongs somewhere on your list. These things are also cheaper than most of the CPUs on your list 😉
Or Intel Skylake-X CPUs with X299X.
Got the crazy idea to try it on my 24/48 core threadripper but thanks to this video I choose not to. Would have been fun to see Ventura run on this pc, though.
do a buold guide with the i5-13500
Hi again and thank you. Do you have any recommendation for a motherboard to go with the i5-13500 (for a Hackintosh)? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Not a specific motherboard but I've used Gigabyte and Asus in the past and been very happy with them. You can stay with 600 series to save some money as there's not going to be any performance benefit in going with a 700 series motherboard. Take a look at the Github pages for Z690 hackintoshes and make a note of which motherboards they're using. You don't have to use their EFI's but at least you can be 100% positive the motherboard works - github.com/search?q=z690+hackintosh
@@BartechTV Wow, thank you so much for all the detailed information. There’s a lot to learn here but hopefully I can achieve it taking it a step at a time. Really appreciate all that you provide.
I have a old laptop with a 7th Gen intel processor. I have 2 issues. 1. For whatever reason it won't install Windows in UEFI mode. I can get the Windows logo and it just hangs. 2. The first time I tried to install MacOS Ventura it installed fine. I just would need the USB to run it. Well I deleted that installation and now I can't get in reinstalled with an error.
Can anyone in this universe tell which audio applications have a problem with the amd 5950x processor? I’m using one and have no any issues 🤷♂️ what i do wrong?
Thank you SO much! What would be the best motherboard if I’m planning to bluid a hackintosh with an i7 13700k? 👀
How did it go?
Hey, have you tried any mini pcs? Such as the ones that come with Ryzen 5800u or 5800h or 5900hx? I think those are the fastest available that will work without an external dgpu. Then there is the Ryzen 7940hs with rx6650m in the HX100G minisforum but I read quite a lot of problems with mini pcs breaking after a while or beeing to noisy most of them. For Intel ones one would need thunderbolt and an external gpu, rx550 would do right? For video work of course a more potent one would be better, but for audio work I think a low end and cheap one would be enough. Cheers
Yes, a mini PC with a Ryzen CPU and 6600M graphics is the fastest hackintoshable Mini PC currently available.
A 5800H scores about the same as an M1 in Geekbench 6 CPU, while the RX 6600M gets over 100K in metal, beating a 19 GPU Core M2 Pro. A 6650M should be simple to get working with a device-id spoof.
I don't know about Intel Mini PC's with an eGPU, I think using an eGPU kinda defeats the purpose of a Mini PC in the first place, you may as well go for a mini ITX build which is a much neater solution.
@@BartechTV Yes I have been looking at the Asrock Deskmeet B660 which can have up to 128gb ddr4 ram, pcie 4.0 nvme and 14th intel such as i7-14700 or i9-14900. With a low power card such as the rx 550 it might be the best value ever for 1000usd TOTAL you can have 128gb ram and 4tb (if going for the i5 14500)or if going with the I7 14700 one would have to choose less ram or less hard drive size to stick to the 1000usd limit (as an idea, specially when comparing to mac mini m2)
The deskmeet comes with a 500watts bronze psu so I doubt it would work well for a bigger gpu such as rx 6800xt (actually it wouldnt fit lol). But there are better bigger sfx psu of course.
For 500usd total I like the i3-14100 with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd (same setup of deskmeet b660 and rx 550 4gb).
Been checking them in Newegg.
Soon they'll release Deskmeet x600 for AM5 ryzen processors and it will have ddr5 (up to 192gb ram) and pcie m2 5.0.
Cheers
I have a €500 build video that should be uploaded in a few days. I'm using an 13-13100 as the 14100 wasn't available at the time I built it, with a 1TB WD SN770, 16GB DDR4, and a used Asus RX 5700.
Exporting a six and a half minute 4K video to H.264 from FCP takes 3m 10s on this hackintosh.
The same export took 8m 2s on my M1 MBA and 6m34s on my M2 Mini. So, I'm very happy with the performance for the cost.
Suggest motherboard for 13500 hackintosh build
Hi sir how to hacintosh install h610 gigabyte
Is xeon e5 2696 v5 support hackintosh
So do the E-Cores work now properly in Mac Os ? To my knowlage it was still best to disable the E-Cores at least for Audio production since Mac-Os recoginzes them as normal Cores but they dont have the necessary Performance.
I want to build an Hackintosh for Logic 10 so my Idea was getting the 12400 and overclock it so i have 6 Performance Cores at 5.3 GHz but if the E-Cores work fine now the 13500 would be a better choice i guess.
Tnx for your Video!
If you disable the E-cores, then the maximum CPU frequency will be that of the P-cores (4.8Ghz, in the case of the i5-13500). Gives you better peak single-core performance but worse multi-core performance.
If you enable the E-cores, then all P-Cores and E-cores will be used, but macOS makes no distinction between them, and the maximum CPU frequency will be that of the E-Cores (3.5Ghz in the case of the i5-13500). Enabling all cores with the ProvideCurrentCPUInfo quirk and CPUTopologyRebuild kext generally gives about 20% better performance on average than just the P-cores on their own, at least in benchmarks like Cinebench and GeekBench.
Although these limitations mean that the Alder Lake & Raptor Lake processors don't reach their full potential in macOS (eg. the i9-13900K hits 21k in Geekbench 6 Multicore under Linux or Windows, but only 18K in macOS) it's still faster than Apple's fastest CPU, the M1 Ultra. The reduction in max clock speed also results in lower power draw and less heat, which is important to some people.
@@BartechTV Tnx a lot for your fast reply for most people this is pretty good news i guess. For Audio Production in my case highest Singlecore Speed and some Cores are important so i guess i stay with the 12400 for now since its very cheap too.
The "true" Multicore Performance doesnt benefit me if Audio lanes that run on E-Cores get overflows and hickups.
Will go with an Asus B660 Gaming F Board
@@alexlukas2817check passmark and cpumonkey for benchmarks. Best values for single core are i3 14100, i5 14500, i7 14700 and i9 14700. My picks from those would be i3 14100 for a cheap build and i7 14700 for best performance and value. Cheers
Are you the 10900k = 9720 and 11900k = 11200 is correct? The 10900k has 2 more cores and 4 extra threads
Damn, was thinking about turning my old 6th gen i5 box into a HackMac just to play with, though it probably wouldn't run the latest OS well anyway with only 4 cores/4 threads. Is it just the iGPU that is unsupported or will the processor itself not work? I have a few older AMD dGPU lying around.
The processor will work. You just need an AMD Polaris or Navi GPU. I've just installed macOS Sonoma on an old Core i5-4570 with an RX 460. Runs fine. Scores 3300 in Geekbench 6 multicore - faster than the early 2020 MacBook Air with a core i7, and only slightly behind the early 2019 iMac 21.5" with i3-8100.
@@BartechTV Cheers. I've got an RX 580 here, so it should do the trick.
That’s odd I’ve got Ventura up and running on a Haswell i5 with iGPU accelerated graphics. I tried Sonoma Beta, but can’t get accelerated graphics working the iGPU.
You can use OpenCore Legacy Patcher to get a Haswell iGPU working in Ventura but it's unsupported by default.
I have an important question about the 11th series.Are laptop cpus like 11500h compatible with macos or is there nothing to do?
Technically, the CPU is compatible but the integrated graphics isn't. So you'd be limited to running macOS in VESA mode without any graphics acceleration whatsoever, making it basically unusable.
What about ryzen?
Which GPU should is use for i7-13700k with Asus Prime Z790
RX 6800 XT would be a good match
What is "best & compatible" macos version for ryzen 1600 (already own it) and rx 6600 (plan to buy)?
Ventura is the most recent. You should be able to run Sonoma too as long as you have the latest kernel patches - github.com/AMD-OSX/AMD_Vanilla
Thanks, but I was also looking for the dGPU advice..
I made a video about GPU's a few weeks ago - ua-cam.com/video/C0le0DwSTmM/v-deo.html
Hey can you help me. I want install macintosh in hp elitedesk 800 g3 7500. But can't show the recovery why?
Take a look at this GitHub page for a hackintosh using the same PC -github.com/lqph1994/OpenCore-Hackintosh-HP-EliteDesk-800-G3
Intel 13400 with onboard video for iffice work (no gaming) ????
Not without a dedicated AMD graphics card. There's no support for the 12th/13th gen iGPU in macOS.
Will a 13900k hackintosh build with 32gb ram and a 6800xt outperform or atleast come neck to neck with a mac studio ultra 32gb? Im a music producer currently on 9th gen hackintosh and wish to upgrade but not sure to buy a mac studio ultra or build another hackintosh since its almost double the price and i need a powerful machine
It would be about 5% faster in CPU performance and 40% faster in GPU performance than the M1 Ultra Mac Studio with the 64-core GPU.
Simultaneous Logic Pro tracks:
Mac Mini M1: 109
Mac Studio M1 Max: 195
Mac Studio M1 Ultra: 311
i9 13900K: 457
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@@BartechTV Thankyou and thats a really good news, but i have heard intel processors are not being fully used in hackintoshes specially the E cores. Is it true? Also if i make a hackintosh now in how many years you think apple will stop providing any update for it? I want a computer which can atleast last me 5 years with that
Yes, it's true. macOS doesn't differentiate between P-cores and E-cores, it treats them all the same, and they all run at the same clock speed. That's why the 13900K only gets around 19000 in Geekbench 6 under macOS, but 26000 under Windows. Under macOS it only beats the M1 Ultra by 5%, instead of potentially 50% if macOS correctly utilized the cores.
Can I use the F version on 10 - 13 gen? Like for example i5 12400F?
Yes as long as you have a compatible GPU and use an iMacPro or Mac Pro SMBIOS
does intel i5 10310u support macos laptop huwaei d15
Yes.
Im guessing there is no way to install m1/m2 apps on a hackintosh, right?
Mac apps are distributed as universal binaries, so they run on both architectures.
how about Motherboard if i choose intel 13th gen? i about to build mini itx form factor
I'm not aware of any motherboards that don't work. I'm currently using a Gigabyte B760 DS3H for my 13th gen build, although that's a Micro-ATX board. You should be fine with any Z790 / B760 board.
@@BartechTV i just buy i5 13400 pair with Rog Strix B760-i Gaming Wifi. this should be work fine right?
How about the MB? Is there a list for these intel CPU ? for the hackintosh
I'm not aware of any motherboards that aren't compatible. I've even got Ventura running on non-standard Fujitsu and Dell motherboards in prebuilt office PC's. So long as you have a compatible CPU and GPU you should be fine.
@@BartechTV Thank you for your response. How about the internet and airdrop then. I read that these are usually compatiable ? Is there a list of cards to get ?
You can get most WiFi cards working, but for fully working Airdrop and Continuity, you need either the Fenvi T919 or a BCM94360 card with a PCIe adapter. Those are the only two cards that are compatible with Airdrop and Continuity in Ventura.
is it possible to but a i9 and put into a 2017 imac pro?
No, the Xeon uses a different socket.
@@BartechTV is there any cpu that would work?
intel i5 10400F+ Asus GTX 1660 is it possible to use.?
No. macOS has no Nvidia support.
@@BartechTV Okay. Thank you.
Wondering how easy this setup would be to hachintosh..?
Intel Core i7-12700K, MSI Z690-A Pro WiFi DDR4, G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4-3200
That should be relatively easy to get working. You'll need to spoof the CPU id as a Comet Lake CPU but otherwise straightforward.
@@BartechTV You were correct Sir, in 12 hrs , I built it from empty case to working Hackintosh . even the intel i226v ethernet works.
11,000 score in GeekBench6 while screen recording. All P-cores & E cores are working too. Thanks for the inspiration, and as a long time MacUser .... I have now went Rouge and I'm loving it !!
@@Spoolingturbo6 what gPU are you using? Also, can you please tell which guide did you follow to create the EFI ?
Bro what about i3 11th gen tiger lake ?
This video is just about desktop CPU's. No mobile CPU's newer than 10th gen are working in macOS.
i13600K ? duh?
3:05 Apple is rapidly pushing their Intel lineup off the cliff. 8th gen may actually loose support with Mac OS 15 or 16. You can see this trend with how many Macs apple is dropping with each Mac OS release, for example 2017 iMacs, 2016-2017 MacBook pros they are all perfectly capable of running sonoma but the 2016 only has support for Monterey and 2017 only for Ventura. x86 Hackintosh systems may be completely obsolete in the very near future
Even when Apple drops support for Macs with 8th gen Intel CPU's, Hackintosh users with 8th gen CPU's can continue to use them by simply changing their SMBIOS definition. I'm running Sonoma on a 4th gen Intel CPU, for example, even though the last real Mac with a Haswell CPU was dropped years ago.
Apple seems to have adopted a five year Window of OS support. A new Mac will be given five years of support in major OS releases followed by another three years of security updates.
Going by what we've seen from Apple up to now,
macOS 2024 will drop support for 2018 machines - MBP, MBA & Mac mini 2018
macOS 2025 will drop support for 2019 machines - MBP, MBA & iMac 4K/5K 2019
macOS 2026 will drop support for 2020 machines - iMac 5K, MBP, MBA Intel 2020, & first gen MBP / MBA / Mac Mini (M1, 2020).
macOS 2027 will drop support for 2021 machines - MBP 14" & 16" 2021, iMac 24"
...and so on.
The intel i9 10900F is it possible to use?
Yes, sure. You'll just need a compatible graphics card, though, since the "F" processors lack integrated graphics.
@@BartechTV is there a filter about talking of others kind CPUs than blue one?
@@BartechTV Is xeon e5 2696 v5 support hackintosh