[52] Master "Magnum" Padlocks Picked and Bypassed
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2015
- The security provided by "box store" locks is generally unimpressive. If people knew how bad the locks they use to secure their valuables are, they would be appalled!
In this video, I address two locks that are sold as "high security," but would give a skilled thief only a few moments of pause. I bypass the Master M176 faster than you can open the lock by entering the combination. I then pick open the M930 in seconds.
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The amount of distain in his voice is hilarious
I was literally about to say the same 🤣
It's not even disdain, is sounds more like utter depression lmao
I n e x c u s a b l e d e s i g n f l a w
I know… right?
"Exasperation" is the word we're looking for. This is the reaction one has when faced with a thing that simply makes life as a whole less valuable.
We've seen LPL pick a lot more Masters since this video, and he is still deeply disappointed with them. The fact that they're one of the biggest market shares in this country makes them being so bad, so much worse.
0:46 “Both from Master’s Magnum series...” audible SIGH
"Best" equals "Most Expensive" in the "sales associate's" mind.
It isn't the employee's fault that their boss wants them to push certain products.
It's not even a deliberate shady move. It's just a lack of expertise leads to "well Master Lock is the brand I've heard of, so they must be the best. This one costs the most so it must be their best one."
great. yet another example that this entire world is a freakin scam.
It's not completely wrong. All things being equal, more cost = more investment in security. unfortunately, that doesn't account for greed and profit margins. To be fair, these seem to have quite a bit of effort put into the materials used in construction, so they're very likely to be legitimately more expensive to make; Master just didn't put in any effort into the cores and put in cores that are so bad that they can be picked in a matter of seconds. it's like having the heaviest, strongest door with the best locks and a window next to it with no security. The weakest link.
I don’t think the average sales associate knows much about lock cores nor do I think they’ve tried picking the lock to see if it’s actually good, they probably just knew that it was hard to force open with destructive attacks and went with that. To be fair, it’s built out of a good material.
To be fair to home depot, they weren't lying at the time. That really was their most secure lock. It's not the employees fault it's terrible.
That 'combination lock' practically isn't even a lock, it's a cleverly-disguised latch.
Frightening how fast the combination lock opened. I cannot believe that Master has overseen this design defect. The other Master will become a great lock after your changes; a sleeper lock ;-)
+Potti314 Agreed on all counts. Particularly the 175/176 bypass... it is beyond absurd.
Have you made an update video on that master lock magnum with a "lockout" core?
Mark M Nope... though maybe I should make a video of picking the LOTO core... I thought I had one, but as I'm looking now, I can't find it.
I'm just wanting a cheap way at a good lock. I'm thinking I can hack together 2 locks for $20 and get 5 spool/serrated pins with a bulletproof casing.
+Mark M why not just pick up an American series 700 for cheap on eBay? Do you need better than that?
You sound so over it in this video, I'm dying lol
Sounds like Snape teaching first years to use Alohomora, lol
My god, I wish I saw your friend's face after making your point. That's a hell of a way to explain yourself.
Damn girl, you fine as hell.
@@hadesobsidian5231 simp
@@LuckyAJC Lol that's not a simp numb nuts. Cause a girl be fine. What did you just hear that word on twitter? Might wanna go look it up. Stay in school kid, maybe one day you'll know the definitions to more words.
@@hadesobsidian5231 the fact that you got offended just proves my point
@@LuckyAJC The fact you think the definition means offended proves my point LOL, you really need to look up that word dullard. This isn't offended, this how men talk. You'd know that if you had a pair. Just take my word for it.
I thought you and Bosnian Bill were just really good... And you are... but I've been picking locks for 1 day and can consistently get into my Master that "secures" my ladders on my truck within 10-15 seconds. Excellent examples from yourself and Bill, along with a weak lock makes for early (undeserved) confidence!
YT videos are deceiving. You can watch me pick two locks, each of which takes a minute. Yet one might be VASTLY more pick resistant than the other. Skill and practice make the harder one look easier than you might think.
I bought that round body lock to practice picking. I’m a very novice picker, the package said maximum pick resistance. Being a true novice, I got it open in 2 minutes.
I bought one for my 11 year old son to practice on and he raked it oped in like 2 seconds on his 2nd day learning to pick locks. lol
Excuse me for loosing all proper composure, but now up off the floor and with tears wiped away, counselor, your antics are priceless, your presentation brilliant and I would pay for tickets to an evening out with you and your lock picking show. Thanks so much for sharing your passion with us all.
why no upvotes on this comment
Well you sure did a good job of making this video of a boring master lock really good, in fact an excellent job.
Cheers!
LOL... thanks. Oddly enough, I've started featuring more locks like this because so many people ask for them.
There internet is awash with well designed locks offering impenetrable strengths. Your videos and those like these, help to expose to the public the pitfalls of buying budget priced locks that offer no real security, only an illusion of strength and visual security. Keep up the great work.
The Loc-tite was the most secure thing about that keyed padlock.
Video: shows master locks
Me: this is where the fun begins
Coming back to where the master lock roast began, and I can confidently state that bypassing master locks still hasn't gotten old!
I hope you took the combo lock back as faulty and showed the clerk why, it’s a shame to waste money on garbage
The people at Home Depot don't care 🤷🏻♂️ why would you show them? You'd want to show Master Lock so they could fix it.
@@J__C__ Master cares even less!
"That would make for a very boring video if all I did was that."
I beg to disagree, dear sir. I find those to be the most entertaining videos you make. I never get tired to see how easy it is to get a Masterlock to open.
I had the combination one. The lock broke, but I didn’t know it had such a huge flaw!
The one I had was on a storage shed and after a few years of not being opened, the combination tumbler had seized and stopped turning. With just a flat head I opened the lock in minutes. (I did not know of the bypass flaw... and when removing the cover to the dials.... it poppet open! Now I know why, ...and to avoid combination locks!)
I stopped in here to see if you could explain the flaw and didn’t realize how bad it actually was!
I also just realized I’m not subscribed, I’ll fix that right away!
Thank you for being so informative
4 years ago its crazy how much just the way you explain videos is evolved so much
It’s always amazing how most people don’t know how terrible big box stores locks are.
The LPL Sleeper Lock™, using the best combination of Master locks with third party help.
so bored by that lock he had to make it more secure to remain interested
"I'm not even sure they're worth being called locks" damn dude savage
Wow, thanks for taking one for the team, so to speak. :) The term, security theater, comes to mind; the practice of investing in countermeasures intended to provide the feeling of improved security while doing little or nothing to actually achieve it.
To give full credit, they do provide protection from brute force attacks and probably provide a fair bit of deterrence value, but they are a complete joke against an intelligent and skilled attack.
I love those Master Lock LOTO locks!! Great training locks and relatively cheap also!!
I always enjoy your videos, yours and Bosnian bill’s. you are both highly entertaining and educational. Keep up the good work, you are great at what you do.
Thank you for the great vid's. I am learning a lot from you. I have a master that you show, and not able to pick as of yet. Then again I am very new to this. Only been doing it for about 2 weeks. I have picked two other locks. Thank you again..
"Most boring video", and his most popular videos are EXACTLY that.
But I don't blame you, LPL. You do it for your enjoyment as well as our entertainment.
It is - and it should be - all about what YOU like to do.
the sad part is master makes great locks. all the have to do is fix the damn core. it would be so easy.
that being said, the core is the least important part in 90% of attacks. I,and any would-be thief with no picking knowledge, can silently get through 90% of padlocks in under 5 seconds with a decent set of bold cutters. It's like putting a high security lock on a glass door, relatively redundant. Most thieves don't know how to pick locks
Waldo almost all locks can be cut
@@user-lq1dk6gr3p boron carbide... Tank armor. Masterlock. An easy to open one. I just use them to make it unattractive to brute force. It's to make them slow down and notice I take the seat off my bike and they aren't going to ride it off. They are also going to make some noise
@@EffectPlaceboThe yeah, the average thief isn't looking for a challenge, just an easy score. If the lock is sufficiently time consuming to get past (all can eventually be defeated), they'll move on to an easier target.
Imagine if in the store you would have demonstrated that bypass and asked the clerk "want to try again?"
I would Watch that video
they'd probably shrug. It's Home Depot. The employees are mostly paid poorly and hate their job.
The clerk would shrug, say "Sorry sir" and look for a clock to see when his shift is over.
Master Locks has done a masterful job convincing consumers that they sell a quality product.
for the most part, the weaknesses of masterlock will never be exploited in the field. if they can't be opened with bolt cutters, then it's secure enough.
Pssssst! Wow,i was gonna buy the second one you opened!! Good thing we have you to guide us to better choices! You would think a brand like master lock which has been around since i was a kid and probably longer would up there game! You opened that thing faster than i drink a beer! And thats fast!
I've never even tried picking a lock but I am looking at building a house and I'm loving these videos didn't realise how bad alot of these locks are ..
I just love all the cold hatred and dissapointment in his voice.
LPL: What is your most secure padlock?
HD: *points at Master locks*
LPL: *sighs* oh boy...
At least he didn't tell you the TSA locks were the most secure...The TSA locks that were hanging right by the side of a Burg Wächter Gamma 700^^
LOL.
I enjoy seeing these LSOs (Lock-Shaped Objects) humiliated. In the UK while Master Lock padlocks have dominance, our general consumer-grade door locks have tighter paracentric keyways and generally we'd have spools or mushrooms. Where we fall down is the prevalence of snappable Euro cylinders or keys with minimal bitting variation, so unskilled attacks are common. We also have the same inflated marketing claims about super-duper hyperlightspeed unpickableness, but it does feel like we have choice. There's also some degree of confidence the consumer can gain from kitemarked cylinders. It's actually proven quite a challenge for me to obtain Kwiksets, Schlages and American Locks but once I had some, I was able to use these to learn quite a lot about how locks work, so they do have some limited training value at least.
It's really disappointing because these Magnum locks look really cool.
I’m starting to love this guy
It’s sickening how good this fellow is. 😫
It took you longer to get through the latch on the ‘box of cores’ than it did to bypass the combination lock.
Just tried the same thing on my M176... Took me awhile to grind down a nail file for it to fit. Looked like a prison shank lol! But yep it worked. Still working on a brass 176 Master combo it wouldn't pop open as easy as the M176.
THANKS FOR VIDEO
Done the same
YOOOOO! The pure disdain and contempt! This is hilarious!
HA! I knew that core would work after I saw a different M930 vid by you. Time to bust open this LOTO lock I just bought that basically came with set up as a challenge lock with the key cut LHLHLH(L TO R) with the rear most(final H) pin being the highest possible cut. Like they barely skimmed the key with the cutter on all 3 high cuts including the tip.
Now if I can convince my Foreman to let me have one of those lock out/tag out locks, and if I can only successfully swap the cores I might feel a little better. The combination Master gym locker lock definitely has to be replaced! Thanks, what a cool video, & thanks for sharing!
By the way, I successfully replaced with an beautiful abloy 330 lock. Thanks
I was able to overcome the crimp by just pressing the core with my thumb and twisting(turning with the key)... It's hardly as "permanent" as it seems
LPL: "it's a great body."
Lock: "No, you."
I have this lock. The nut and bolt that holds the core cover is easily removed when locked, and the core drops out. Using a pair of side cutters I am able to grab and wiggle the nut from the bottom, loosen it and after it clears the dimples on the underside of the nut, simply unscrew it. If it didn't wiggle lose you could just get more aggressive and rip the head of the nut off. A bike thief I met revealed this to me.
This is actually pretty interesting. A way to make a fairly secure lock with just master products.
hello 2015! I've recently found your channel. I love in this video when you show the red plastic lock and the way the key is in the shackle and you have to pick it open if you really needed the key. (ok, u propably would go through that 'ring' with scissors, but anyway nice touch)
After this video, the combination lock was found dead at it's home where it had apparently committed suicide.
RIP
I have the exact magnum lock that was disassembled in this video. Yesterday I ordered that plastic masterlock the video was referring to for $10, swapped out the core with no issues, and now it better secures our valuables from the thieves. Personally I'm hoping down the road that the LPL will show a video on how to rig a potent explosive device inside the lock if it's tampered with (perhaps that could be a joint venture with bosnianbill). Thank you for the video sir!
I agree; Master is really falling down, has been for a while. The combination lock is a disaster, in fact there are issues with the Master school locker combination locks with batches being shipped with same combinations. It appears today good padlocks start at $90.00 each! Good demonstration by the way.
+Peter M Thanks. I agree. The sad part is that some of their products are REALLY close, in my view, to being good security values. I was serious when I said the second lock had a good body and shackle. Master just missed the last 5%.
Freshman year of high school I spent most of my time between classes trying to open my locker combination lock. Sophomore year I carried around steel shims. Takes 1 second with enough practice on the same lock. I couldn't use my own lock due to school policy. Good times.
Would you consider doing a follow-up video showing how you re-pinned the core to secure it better?
It makes sense that the lockout lock has the best core. Any other masterlock would be almost pointless, as 95% of attacks will be destructive. However, the lockout tag out lock is the only one that people usually have incentive to pass via picking and not destroying the lock
Tbh I love watching the lpl opening locks quicker then I could with the key.
love it! great video.
+richardwales Thanks.
That sigh and change in vocal tone @0:45... One of those "fuck, not even funny anymore... " kind of moments.
I’ve got a MasterLock M115 that I thought would be my first pick. I can maneuver the pins, but MasterLock has put something in the top to stop the tensioner from turning it. It’s also a very strong spring. It gives most people on youtube a run for a couple of minutes. I’m going to have to go to a simpler lock since I can’t figure the M115 out.
Sir! You just roasted everyone; the Depo, Master, and your friend :D
Wow! I forgot my combination and spent an hour trying to double shim the shackle! I ended up giving up, and spent another hour hunting for the key before I finally got the danged thing open. FML.
New core makes kick ass lock body is awesome
2015 lpl sounds so bored! Glad We've got the one we do!
Wow these early videos he doesn't hide the disdain!
A walk through in how you changed it would be great, if not too late.
+Jason Christian Thanks for watching. It's a pretty simple process. The cores are a direct swap... no modification was required. To beef things up, however, I opened up the new core and replaced all but two spools with serrated drivers and all of the standard key pins with serrated key pins (from an American Lock pinning kit). The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
LPL, did it turn out that the core from the Master Lock LOTO was a direct plug-n-play replacement for the core that came stock in the M930?
Yes... direct drop in.
Excellent, thank you! Now I can break open that LOTO lock, see what's inside, make a few changes to the core and drop it in the M930.
@@lockpickinglawyer too bad you can just rip it out with pliers
Thank you!!!
I believe this is where the roasting began.
Great video ! Before i started watching your channell, i allways figured Master locks were adequate / decent locks. How did they keep this secret this Long ? I Just accidently found out that Master lock was founded in 1921. 100 year anniversary coming up. i wonder what kind of lock they will come out with for a 100 anniversary lock ? im frankly appalled by the lack of security in thier locks now. Where does one go to get a decent lock these days ? i went to home depot & all i see is master locks & if u look at the locks. they ALL have the same key number. Thier is 12 locks in a row all with the same key #. Great if u want 12 locks All Keyed alike. Not so Great , When all the guys buying locks can open each others locks.
I would be interested in seeing this lock revisited, I just recently got interested in lockpicking and bought this lock along with 3 other Master locks as practice. It sounds like maybe Master took the hint and put a better core in it because I found a 6 pin core, only using 5 with 5 spool pins and I have yet to get into it. It seems to have some serious potential considering how strong the rest of it is, especially if you could re-pin it with 6 pins. Of course the next Master in line that I got had the same horrible 4 pin core as the rest...
You’re awesome 🖖🏻
I like when you pick them fast
Dude, you rock! Thank you!
Today I Learned - If one was to use the one on the left to "secure" a $10k asset in a public place, i'm an idiot. I suppose I should go find a LOTO 6-pin like the one you described and swap cores? I'll have to search for your best of the best video... Thanks for the insight... Subscribed!
If your asset really is worth $10k, you should probably get a Squire or Abloy or something like that
I have one of the heavy duty key lock, looks like I have to buy one of those $10 plastic 410 locks for a core and upgrade my heavy duty lock.
I know this is an old video but it makes a point that I try to explain to other people. It doesn't matter how much of a monster a lock looks like from the outside. All that matters is whats in the lock. Will have to save this video to show my point as best shown making your point. THANK YOU
Just made an $0.90 M10 key blank work in W401 core by milling a grove on the back, setting the key blank to align to the tip and letting the key cutter add the 6th pin on the key stop. I also had to grind where the base meets the shaft to allow it to be inserted all the way.
Interesting term 'up to snuff' had to google that one. Apparently you can extend the phrase to ' up to snuff and a pinch beyond''
LOL, good to know.
This has been a weird comment thread. First people not knowing Abus and now not knowing this phrase... If I keep going, I’m gonna bump into a flat earther...
@@adamwest8711 If it wasn't flat we'd fall off.
Irish Giant 😀......I really hope you’re joking....
@@adamwest8711 what u mean the Earths not flat? Damn public school system
lock reviews like this shows people like me, who are new that these locks are junk.
He sounds so defeated and disappointed 😂
Your the man MrL.P.L.
Why doesn't Master Junk Wake up. Their locks are built well but their cores are trash. Master lock wake up
I have this lock right in front of me right now and lpl makes this look easy as typing in the security pin to his cellphone.
Am I using too much tension? Not enough? Is my pick pressure too hard? I can only pick 4 pin padlocks as of now. started 2 days ago but have hit a major road blocks with the higher pin counts.
thanks again
O_o I just found this channel by mistake. I am a mover and drive cross country with peoples EVERYTHING! Entrusted to me for the safe delivery of their home contents to their new place. I have been using these (the one on the left) to "secure" the truck while I sleep in a hotel. Dear god have I been lucky. Now what? What lock can I trust?
If you still have this padlock, how about testing it against the pipe wrench? The shackle is definitely very hard, but is it also tough? great video, did your friend reimburse you for these? Looks like he owes you some tuition fees too;)
Those Master crimped cores can be taken apart with ease. Turn the plug so the crimp is lined up with the bottom of the keyway and the plug will slide right out. I have re-keyed many of these for customers over the years. Master did this as a cost savings.
Lpl very vague and difficult question... I'm new to ur channel but tbh ur the only channel Iv watched so far and Iv watched idk how many videos of yours in the past few days but I had a question... Out of all the common retail stores what brand and model of padlock would you recommend for most pick/ whatever proof?
It depends on what you are using it for... but one of my favorite generally available, general purpose locks is the American Lock Series 700... of course, the particular application may call for something better (or smaller).
What about one that's under 100 dollars but pretty hard to pick and whatnot with security features?
lmao I can tell you're not happy with having to do this video, but sometimes you gotta REITERATE.
LPL. You mentioned the Spanish IFAM brand. Have you tried the Lince and FAC counterparts? Greetings from Spain.
Oh, what a different time and style...
Yeah I have a question, i specifically looked at this video from you because I have that very lock(I buy locks to practice) and I noticed that when you inserted the wrench, you put it on the side of the pins...why?
It's funny finding this video in 2021.
Totally agree~ its so odd how they get a great body but totally fail on the core.
After your replacement though- it should be a decent lock!
+LockMan28 Thanks. It's definitely a WTF moment when you realize that Master puts a tougher core in their plastic locks than in their steel "Magnum" locks. Someone has a sense of humor.
@@lockpickinglawyer Actually makes sense in a way. You have to both think of large scale economics and of the purpose of the locks. The LOTO is a warning and you don't want it opened by the wrong key (in an environment where there might be lots of similar locks). Physical damage would be noticed immediately. The Magnum lock is likely to be used where people might physically attack it (bolt cutters) but are not going to have keys which are potentially close copies nor possess picking skills.
Plot twist: Master Lock are the BEST lock maker for people learning how to pick locks
Master should hire you as a consultant.
From other countries perspektive i also never heard of „Master“. Abus meanwhile is quite common where i live. I infact have one for my bicycle.
I got one of those big ones from lowes for practice. they have made the core a bit better. it has a key like the core from LOTO now.
I often have autoplay switched on and so would need to go to a bit of effort to click the like button. I did go to the effort and clicked like for this video . Not that the others don't deserve it .
Most secure locks ... the less secure locks have a quick release button for when you lost the key :D
Worth saving recore
Nice video! can you recommend a place online where I can purchase a repinnable cores for this padlock. Thanks
Mrlock.com is probably a good option.