Royal Fire: N. Fork American River 7/7/2024
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
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A lot of aircraft there now looking on FlightRadar24 just now.
Ah, California and its TWO seasons: Summer and Fire. I never worry about fires or floods when Juan is on the job. Yuba City loves you, my brother.
I had the opportunity to see these guys in action less than a mile from my house when a fire was threatening the neighborhood a few years ago. It was quite the airshow.
I had the opportunity yesterday Granite fire, but I was too busy actually evacuating with one eye on the fire and the other setting to go.
I worked that area many years ago. That ridge they are painting has a single old logging haul road on it, and runs East West on the ridge between the North Fork and Wabena creek drainage. That granite face in the canyon is Snow mtn. Good work Juan.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Juan! Have a good Night!
Hope your home and the area around is Safe at this time...... After watching a bunch from Coulson fight a fire across the road from us two weeks ago I think I missed my calling..... That has to be the most intense flying ever.... they had the 737, MD80 and at least two helicopters.... what an airshow it was.
Friend and I were on that Palisades hiking trail down by the river, glad we got out, just hours before it kicked off.
Thank you, Juan! I'm thinking good thoughts for the pilots and other firefighters.
I wouldn't want to be that low in the afternoon with thermal turbulence and afternoon winds.
Flight Radar animation gives you appreciation for the low level flying proficiency of the pilots.
a fraction of the money spent on war should be spent on this. there should be a high elevation base for large tankers 10000 ft runway. c5 firefighting planes. thermals, night vision, radar.
permanent government work programs for everyone clearing underbrush
well said
It would seem that the dinosaur dirigibles would be excellent aerial firefighting platforms, solar (electrolysis) power and huge capacity accurate water application ability.
@@danhelwig the problem I see is speed getting to the water and back to the fire, and the thermals of the fire Pushing the dirigible away from the fire. Well, that and being full of hydrogen lol . Would be good for accuracy, that’s about it I think.
The entire fleet of H-1, O-2, S-2, OV-10, S-70, and C-130 aircraft used by CAL FIRE for firefighting were ALL originally designed, developed, and built with U.S. Department of Defense money. So there's that... P.S. The C-5 Galaxy was also designed and built by the U.S. DoD.
@Raiders33 These are airframes not built around firefighting with the exception of the fire boss. there are no purpose built large tankers, and no infastructure to use them even if we had them. our military can see a Hodgie 10 miles away fucking his goat but no night flight capabilities for our fleet of tankers. billions of dollars on orbital nuclear launch capability. it's just about priorities
What a view with that 3D!
I had an anxious moment when he looked down at the IPad while turning down into the canyon.
shout out to Pete for supporting his dad with his IT skills
great report Juan, the 3D stuff is pretty cool and it's great to hear how Cal Fire are jumping on these fires in their infancy before the insurance repercussions become so bad post fire, i still remember the Camp Fire and have followed all your reports ever since from the UK - great reports
big news broken today on Boeing in the UK - can't wait to here what you have to say Juan
The sheep and the Dixie were horrible for the folks living in the area. Destroyed a lot forest wildlife homes lives now no homeowners insurance very hard on people to watch everything burn, while politics and OT pay seemed to be more important.glad they are stopping this fire quick
Fantastic sir!! Really well done!!
Very cool presentation. Thanks Juan!
You’re on this already!
Thank you.
Watching with major interest. Will be at Donner Pass Next Week. Or not?
Mountain biked down to the river there years ago.
Very rugged terrain with limited access.
Oh man!
Fingers crossed for Soda Springs, Donner Summit & everyone affected.
Like that feture.. Such amazing tecnology... And great flying, but all the great effort by Cal. Fire crews. And a clear reason why the 'Govenors" all of them need big money taxes... For 'BIG' projects ( Warer, Police Roads.& Emergecy Services ) that benfit all of the public's good... Thank you for your own clear reporting on the State >>Cal Fire
Juan, NTSB Final is out on your "High Voltage! Mooney 20J N201RF 27 Nov 2022" video. Pilot was stuck up in a power line tower for 8 hours. It was a national news story...
What the heck is someone doing with a campfire in 100 degree temperatures?
Trying to cool down
Camp fire really ! Just another ass hole !
Weed farmers cooking their canned beans
@@jimbates955 maybe , next question: how and why were they (anyone) down in that steep rugged canyon in those temps? 😳
@@gregentclemory9285 __ 🤣👍👍
The first time I saw video of a drop shot from almost ground zero was from a UA-camr a few years ago who was camping on public land in Oregon. There was a t storm one night. The next morning he was woken by planes and helicopters. He hiked until he came up on firefighters and a dozer cutting a break. Hes a professional photographer and took video and pictures of the crew working. He then turned the camera and a large passenger sized plane came banking almost over him and dropped its load. The plane looked like it was not much above tree top. He was close enough he got a little shower. It lookked to be water. There was also a helicopter making drops. It too was a pretty good sized copter. I was amazed at how low they were
Trying to figure out your background. I flew as Air Attack out of UAAB last century. Flew as observer (Airattack)on Cessna 337.AA110. (CDF Fire Captain.) Mendocino flew Coop Patrol with CDF observer at that time. Fritz Gordon from Ukiah had the contract. I can tell you have an air background. S2s were green in them days. Well done. Carry on. 92 and 94 were at UAAB. I'm probably the only one here that got salvoed on by a B-17 in 1966. Subscribed.
It been a busy week+ for those that cannot make good decisions. The news stations report these fires as Wild with “no” reference to all are human started. Seems like a missed communication opportunity,
TV news has a narrative to maintain. 😉
We are going white water rafting tomorrow (Monday) around Sutter's mill on the American River. Thank god we have these brave guys fighting these fires...
They used drones on backfiring operations on the Klamath NF last summer. Zeke Lunderer covered this extensively on His UA-cam channel The Lookout !:-)
The fixed wings were dropping quite late on the French fire~ after 9pm. The choppers took over and then the night op helichoppers.
Very nice.
Eye go back to the days of 1970 on the Angeles National Forest 30 man Hot Shot Crew when we were getting dumped on by the older version F7, Grumman TBF,'and B-17 and my favorite the PBY Catalina
Thanks for sharing
I love how quickly these get put out when there are $1M homes in the path of the fire.
Marsh Aviation Turned the S-2 into air tanker and turbo props with Garrett air search engines
They used when eye was in early days we used Boraid
They were called Boraid Bombers they were usually Grumman TBMs
Fantastic coverage. I’m alone so I don’t have anyone calling me weird for watching over an hour of coverage. 🙃🎸
Mama mia, that is some hot flyin’!
Is this a Sunday report?……..Thanks….BTW, great haicut Juan
Yep!
I'm watching at 11pm your time and see a Canadair CL-415 SuperScooper flying in from Alaska. N385AC landing at Eugene. Is this a helper in route?
Yes see it Peace out
This is awesome coverage! I scanner and would like to tune in to the CDF air attack but I’m not sure what frequency they use. Any suggestions?
The river down there is too shallow and small The only a few pools really to dip out of very rocky been all over that country The Palisades hiking trail goes right through the burn
Hope this season goes well. We have some dangerous fires in Southern Oregon.
It's a very popular spot, but access from that side of the canyon is harder.. I think the missing hikers did start it, and could not race faster than the fire to their cars, so "went missing". Hopefully some others who were in the canyon from the north side will confirm it was them. Most people access that part of the canyon from the north. And on a July weekend, probably 50 people down there. Fire started on the south side, where they would have parked, and been outrun by the fire.
Super interesting
How does a fire start in such a remote area??
Lightening, arson, stupid people lighting camp fires, discarded cigarette.
I know for the C-130 the tanks are palletized and modular or something for quick installation
If the S2 holds 800 gal then why not use more AT802s. They also dump 800 gal and can pickup in lakes or larger rivers instead of landing to refill. Thing is you are limited to how much you can add to the water due to carrying additive in floats. Thing is they are also super nimble and more so after dumping
Retardant vs water...big difference. Good question!
@@blancolirio Would a visible light TV camera or a FLIR sensor on any of the CAL FIRE aircraft help / increase mission capability?
89, I used to see in Ukiah, Glad it's actively working.
Good ol' Stoof!
Just checked flight radar and it appears that an aerial survey is in progress with a twin commander.
The biggest issue is that it's on Fed land and they don't know how to fight a fire as well as CALFIRE.
@Blancolirio, how far is this fire (roughly) from the Global HQ?
I love this future.
The super tanker was sold and converted to a cargo carrier.
Oh wow, as bad as your two recent reports are, I've just looked at CalFire and there's Lake Fire near Santa Barbara that's 18996 acres and 8% contained. And several others over 1000 acres.
Mid slope firefighting is extremely dangerous and not often practiced these days. I heard they had scoopers available from Chico today.
Many tragedies have occurred in such terrain. Storm King Mountain was one.
Forest management is a science, and it runs on three things. First two are education and local knowledge, so a good team will have a combination of your educated brainboxes and people who have lived in an area for generations and who just know stuff. The third thing is money. People blame camp fires and teenagers and so on for these fires but the reality is that yes, trees sometimes do just spontaneously catch fire for a large number of reasons, for example the wrong trees planted after the last fire, or simply a dry bush being in direct sunlight going 'whompf'. If you want to stop these fires then the only real way is to campaign for the people managing these forests to get more money so the only fires you see are controlled burns.
edit: important. Be careful about mentioning smokey the bear around forest management people. There is a angrily held belief that it's used by the government to avoid giving them the money they need to actually prevent fires.
I hate dummies in the forest too. But
you’ll never stop lightning from starting hundreds of fires every year.
_"...simply a dry bush being in direct sunlight going 'whompf'."_ Is that physically possible? What is the ignition temperature?
@@Raiders33 Have you ever been inside a 1980s Volvo parked without shade in the south of France? But yes, unmanaged forestry can just 'spontaneously' combust, much like the belt buckles in the back seat of that Volvo, rocks, leaves, bits of twig, can get incredibly hot in direct sunlight especially if the ambient ground temps have been consistently high for a while. Next time it's a super hot day where you are see how long you can hold your palm flat down on the sidewalk/pavement and you'll be surprised.
@@SewingandCaring I lived in Dallas, Texas USA through the 1980's while working at Texas Instruments Defense Group. Parked car windows would blow out and shatter in the summer (my window did) due to the car's interior heat from the usual 101°F to 104°F daytime highs. But no one was ever worried about, and I never saw or heard about, direct sunlight igniting a fire with the contents inside their parked car, or dry brush around my house _"going whompf"_ .
I can't remember how many times I've seen unsafe/illegal campfires in the Sierra. Which is why I don't camp over the Fourth. Too many fools.
Is there a application that can B installed on an Android phone to listen to the Air net traffic working fires with CAL FIRE and UD Forest Service
Eye used to have an old Bearcat 350 programmable radio frequency scanner but that was years ago
Thanks for sharing
Is this not in same area as couple of years back ?
What is the vertical exaggeration setting in flightrader24?
It's a 3000' deep canyon.
@@blancolirio So you're saying it's 1:1, no exaggeration? I knew it's rugged topography, but WOW, that takes guts.
Is this fire south of the immigrant gap ?
Juan why not you ask Abby if you could get permission to go on a tanker run to film it,
Juan would probably have a better chance, I tried as a newspaper photographer years ago. It was a hard no. I was able to mount cameras in the plane and wire a shutter release to the yoke. Crew chief had a fit when he saw it but let it go. Plane got diverted after that drop and I didn't get my cameras back for over a month. Pictures weren't great as they waited till they got close and smoke obscured most of the image. Would love to go up for photos if allowed.
I don't understand why they have to make a circle What's the point of that?
why can't they come in straight at the selected angle and go out straight at an angle.
Watch the video, I explain all that.
Dye ammonium phosphorus
Doesn't look like any thunderstorms in the region so the fire was probably started by a careless, stupid person.
Yes, reports indicate it was a campfire that got out of control. VERY frustrating.
No comments for the common folks?
Uhg!
I find these streams subpar. Not the quality content I am used to on this channel.
I'm in no doubt that your complaint about this free live news content will be filed appropriately.
Duly noted....;-)
@@blancolirio I find these streams to be about -8 under par, so keep doing them please. BZulu! 🏌😁👍👍
there has been a lot of fires starting up in a short amount of time this season makes you wonder if we have a bunch of itchy fire starters .
Always. Hot weather doesnt just explode into fires or ae would have no trees in Phoenix!
Naw it's not that, fires go in a cycle and all it takes for an invasive species to take hold in an area after a burn, which is what has been happening globally for the last 80 years, and you end up with what looks like random fires starting. The most extreme example of what an invasive species can do is in Australia. In 1975 some silly idiot from my country (England) planted a single blackberry bush in his back garden in Melbourne and it's turned into one of the worst ecological disasters since the invention of leaded petrol for them.
@@juneyshu6197 You have the correct trees in phoenix, forest management in California has had an enormous fight on its hands for a long time now. France in the 1980s suffered a very similar phenomenon but it's largely been got back under control now so it can be fixed - IF the money is assigned to the problem.
they can fly at night?
some helos yes. No fixed wing.
Check out Royal Gorge ski area/Serene Lakes homes....another fire started today! Are we burning all of the Sierras? Not good, thanks Juan for your excellent coverage....appreciated. Connect the dots....extreme heat/lots of forests burned already!
“Sierra”
@@dudeonbike800 should be Sierra's..... Get a grip!!!