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I absolutely love how the Hunger Games uses fashion. Like, it's not just criticizing the Capital, it just shows how people of a certain class use and have historically used fashion. It's SO important and says so much about your status. Katniss spends a great deal of time talking about the fabrics they wore and the work that went into them. In the Capital, fashion doesn't have to be practical, it has to be ostentatious and get you noticed. They don't have to work hard, so they can go wild and it looks odd to the working class... And her relationship to Cinna I think showed her the importance of fashion, every outfit he put her in had a purpose. He made her realize that clothes are a tool for everyone. And it's written so well that you don't really feel like you're getting preached at about how amazing fashion is... it's just a factor of the story.
I think Katniss alway knew that clothes were a class signifier because of the thing with her moms old fancy clothes and how she and prim never looked unkempt to matter how poor they were. I think Cinna showed her how clothes can be used to send a message and create a character that could be understood by people in the capital and the districts.
@@Sheena000 Yes, that's basically what I was saying, though I may have worded it confusingly. She always noticed the clothes, the fabric, the work that went into them all before she met Cinna, but he showed her that fashion was a sort of tool with a function beyond covering the body.
Suzanne Collins was so ahead of the curve and it's precisely because she worked in children's tv for years before writing hunger games. She saw how young people were pampered and dressed up for these shows and understood how image is used as a tool in the media industry. When you think of celebrities like Zendaya and Millie Bobby Brown, both of those actresses used fashion as a way to “mature” their look as they became adults; it made people take them seriously. I also love how realistic the fashion is because it taps into history- wealthy classes wore impractical lavish clothes while the impoverished had to make do. The reason hunger games worked while the knock offs that followed failed was because Suzanne Collins had something to say. Her father was in the air force, she worked with children in the media and she saw the industry for what it was and called it out. Fashion works in the hunger games like how it works in the real world - it's a tool of empowerment, it's a tool of oppression and it creates symbols. Fashion isn't just one thing and she doesn't treat it like one thing. For a young adult novel it is so sophisticated.
I agree, but I also saw an interview with her where she describes her inspiration for the book and how it’s strange that we have this detachment from the images of war, but I didn’t like that she was presenting it as something that created distance from ppl like her father(soldiers invading), rather than Vietnamese people that were forced to endure the horrors. Veterans in america are treated well and constantly show up in classes to tell kids about war and such, but the disconnect I think is with the way the west views countries that are invaded. So I find it very weird that she would say that, bc the book seemed a lot more nuanced than that take
@@LisaFevral I didn't think about it that way but you are definitely correct. I'm not from the USA so I can't speak on how veterans are treated there cause I simply don't know much about it. I think her work absolutely has limitations, whether that be her own writing/bias, upbringing or just restrictions of the genre. That's why I think New Adult novels like The Poppy Wars are better novels that deal with a similar subject matter; there are more layers and nuances. It's more brutal, realistic and it doesn't shy away from being a post-colonial novel that tackles war from all scales and how it affects everyone. The Hunger Games is, at the end of the day, written for children/teenagers and I think it is hard to tackle everything when you are writing allegorically for that audience. I would love to know which interview if you have the link or just more info if you have any.
I don’t want the comment to be hidden automatically by UA-cam, so I’m not gonna add a link but search “suzanne Collins on the Vietnam war stories behind the hunger games” and there’s a 3 min video of her talking
when i read hunger games at ~12 i loved katniss' perspective on fashion bc my family was low income and went to a school where richer kids had name brands and i felt very out of place. where my family couldnt afford medicine it was wild to me to see kids bring $1000 handbags to school. im glad people realize the depth of katniss' character now but a few years ago people labelled her as "not like the other girls" bc she didnt have "societally feminine" interests. well yea if youve been the sole provider for your family and can barely afford food, fashion isnt going to be ur top priority and ur going to feel like "not like the other girls" lmao. i love fashion now but there is this internal battle of liking pretty things but not buying too much either.
Omg that take that ppl had on katniss and that she is “not like other girls” was soooo stupid! She’s a very realistic character that is living a life outside of creating an identity through purchases bc she has no time for that since she needs to hunt, clean, sell meat at the market, etc… people really just say anything sometimes! But also I definitely feel you on that haha
@@LisaFevral glad u could agree :D and yea i feel some people lack the depth to understand katniss' "cold" exterior and it totally makes sense in the capitol and even at her school, for her to feel not like the other girls. this is why i feel people overdo it when critiquing not like the other girls characters bc they fail to take into account class difference, sexuality, race, etc into why characters feel like theyre "different" great video!
Also literally anyone else from a lot of non career districts would be exactly like katniss, and would be considered not like other girls, I think ppl just have a warped understanding of her, bc the context of many ppls lives is so different from hers
@@zainabreads4382 This is such a good point! I feel like people misunderstand the concept of not-like-other-girls so much nowadays. It was never supposed to be a critique of girls who just happen to be different, who literally just happen to not be like the other girls. It was only ever supposed to critique girls/women who are performative about their difference and hold it up as a token of superiority above 'normal' women, the ones who denigrate any girls/women who are stereotypically feminine in comparison. It wasn't just that they happened to be different, it was that they used their difference to reinforce the patriarchal value of femininity being inferior... Also... it was never that serious, it was generally about teenagers going through a rebellious/outcast phase and not recognising their internalised misogyny. Most of the people talking about NLOGs back in the day were former NLOGs themselves who grew up and were reflecting on what made them feel that way as kids. But now I'm starting to see it get applied to anyone female who just... is literally different from the norm. It's so frustrating. You can be as different as you like, as long as you aren't against other people being stereotypically feminine, as long as you don't denigrate femininity then you aren't not-like-other-girls, you're just your own unique self. When people use it to shoot down any girl who's naturally different, they basically bring it all the way back to reinforcing patriarchal values, stereotypes and conformity.
@@idontsm0ke regardless of her not saying it those words still hold truth to what was happening in that era in France, so saying that the capital has those vibes is valid,considering is still a critic to the aristocracy, and in the case of hunger games, to the elite of the capital
The fashion sense in this movie quite ahead of it's time. The Hunger Games bring back a lot of memories and i'm honestly surprised that the fandom is still alive. I can't wait for the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!
I think the fashion is very well done, and most of all, it's going to age well, bc imo it is out of time, since it is pulling from so many different time periods
I wouldn't say it's ahead of its time. It pulls from different past time periods. Plus it is very heavily reminiscent of john galliano's work from the late 90s for Dior.
I didnt know ppl had been perceiving the fashion in the books in that way n its such a surface level understanding like i was literally 12 when i read them n even then i was grasping at least a little bit how cinna was using fashion as a tool for katniss to be perceived in certain ways like from what i remember the book was pretty explicit abt it a lot of the time like girl i barely remember most of the love triangle but i sure as hell remember that yellow dress being used to make her look innocent n having her n peeta sit together in a loveseat to sell their love in the post games interview
First i was bullied for my mechanic dad shirts because of Bella and then for my combat jackets because of Katniss and i wouldn't have it any other way 🥰
Can’t speak to the popularity of the purple design in particular, but when it comes to makeup inspiration I can speak to that a little! Can confirm, as someone who knows and has done makeup for drag queens- that while whitening the face, like Effie does, thankfully didn’t catch on in drag makeup fashion (to my limited knowledge, anyway), there’s definitely been some inspiration pulled from the hunger games and capitol makeup trends that I’ve seen in drag makeup over the years. But it should also be said, that I’m sure a lot of drag makeup and fashion were used as the original basis or inspiration for some of the designs we see in the films. Fashion and trends are cyclical, and makeup is no exception, everything is inspired by something else, etc. etc.
I was saying that people comparing the Met Gala (a fundraising event for a museum department that is almost entirely dependent on charity, where most of the artful, extravagant looks are borrowed and destined to become archive or exhibition pieces) to the Capitol people in the Hunger Games reminded me of that one tweet that was like "Dude who has only seen one movie and it's the Boss Baby, watching his second movie ever: Hey this has got kinda a Boss Baby feeling to it..." but for Haute Couture runway looks. Like, they saw Effie Trinket in McQueen a few times and now anyone wearing anything dramatic gets accused of being a decadent teen death enjoyer. It's always someone mad about people wasting energy making "fancy clothes", don't give a damn about exploitation and balk at paying more than $25 for a graphic tee they will wear hundreds of times. The fancy clothes at the Gala are more likely to be made by people with a decent wage and benefits (not guaranteed, I know! I've seen it!) than the clothes people have had regular access to buying for almost a generation. Most people who read or watch The Hunger Games don't realise they themselves probably live in the Imperial Core and have more in common with the Capitol residents than they'd like. Also, I've been doing invisalign since 2021 and have another 30+ weeks left AMA :')
@@LisaFevral yes ma'am, I just switched to tray 4/39 and my previous course I got 56/64 before my refinement came in, and the previous course was done at two weeks per tray for like a third of the trays 😭 I'm doing it to fix a molar that was sideways and causing TMJ from a fucked up bite, regular braces would have been incompatible with my life (read, my dental hygiene would tank if cleaning my teeth became more complicated) so I opted for Invisalign since the cost was basically the same. My refinement is going to be so long mostly bc the doc knows I'm worn down and won't be wearing the trays 22 hours a day like is usually prescribed, so the shifts are very small week to week.
@@LisaFevral ik ik, genuinely if someone does buy and wear clothes at that price and love them to pieces are much better than overconsumption! I was trying to give an impression of the type of person who discounts the value of clothing to the point of simply utilitarian objects that should not cost more than a fast food purchase. Like if you're wearing something hundreds of times over the course of years, maybe saving up enough to buy a more ethically made shirt for 2-3x the cost of an Amazon reseller shirt, as a treat? People with the means to regularly update/upgrade their stuff every few years with use, like getting a nicer coffee grinder after making your own coffee every day for years, yet many people never make that same leap with clothes.
"Most people who read or watch The Hunger Games don't realise they themselves probably live in the Imperial Core and have more in common with the Capitol residents than they'd like." Preach. I feel like people are in denial about this very fact because the films are so over the top and of course it's an uncomfortable truth to admit.
Man, I wasn't even into fashion when I read the book and watched the movies, but I still enjoyed the description and the presentation of the looks, which just shows how powerful tool of communication fashion can be
Sam Claflin really never had a better role than Finnick Odair. Finnick was also my favourite character. I was so horrified when he died. I loved how you went off on a tangent just to talk about Finnick. I like how you talked about how people have such a shallow reading of fashion just because the Capitol people were giving off Let Them Eat Cake vibes, when the revolution similarly used fashion to create a symbol. It's basically reflected in history as well, an example being how makeup companies (Revlon? or Max Factor?) turned makeup into a symbol of Nationalism for the Americans during WWII.
this is such an interesting conversation to have bc it reminds me of when my freshman english teacher had us read the hunger games. this was like 2012 movie era and it was really such perfect timing to be able to read the hunger games and look at it critically while it being one of the most popular franchises at the time. one of our first projects was literally designing outfits for each district based on what the district is known for, and what political messages we're trying to send with them. to say that fashion is condemned and presented as inherently consumerist and frivolous in the book ignores the impact the fashion in the story had on its messages and symbolism.
I loved how fashion was used to show the Capitol's extravagance and privilege, contrasted to the suffering district's who don't have access to art or fashion coz they're too busy surviving. And how Cinna also showed that it can be art or a weapon to manipulate the masses with. The way fashion was integrated in the story was actually one of my fave things about it. I like when fashion are described in stories I read. Not only for aesthetic reasons but for also envisioning the character. Fashion having a function in the story is a huge plus as well.
i never finished reading the books for the same reasons you mentioned not being able to re-read it now, the topics are too depressing and hit way too close to home especially in the current global climate - but from what i managed to get through, i realized suzanne collins really does understand the importance of fashion as form of communication and to form community. there's an emphasis in what people wear but not in scrutinizing way, more so in trying to understand them and their intentions from the things they wear first. we all unconsciously tell a story with our clothes even before saying a word, suzanne really understands that.
Yeah like i still haven’t seen the last two movie in full, only clips, bc it’s just too depressing and heavy. Like obviously it’s not real, but I am easily affected by what o watch/read, and I think we’re all gonna have to deal with really sad things in life anyway, so I don’t like to inflict these emotions on myself about a fake scenario
The black outfits that Katniss and Peet’s wear for the tribute parade in Catching Fire are really interesting Considering that the chose a more gothic wedding look Much like their first tribute parade
I think they wear black for both parades, and it's definitely interesting, but also thankfully not the whole thing(bc it was like 73 years of coal inspired outfits before this for district 12)
@@LisaFevral Yes they wear black in both parades. And I find that interesting in Catching Fire, because in that movie, for the pre-games publicity, they focused a lot more on their relationship and wedding (in the victory tour before the 75th games, in the interviews, and with the wedding dress and Peeta's wedding suit). But the parade outfits for me at least emulate sort of an aggressive, dark, angry version of that publicity they were doing for so long. It's a dark twist on the lovey-dovey narrative they created for them, Finnick even tells Katniss she looks terrifying, which is off-brand for both of them.
Definitely, I think it makes sense since the white dress already turned to the mockingjay dark dress, so it’s like a continuation… and also not Finnick saying “you certainly have” to katniss telling him that she outgrew her cute dresses🥵💍😭
Really glad you pointed out Caesar Flickerman's outfits in The Hunger Games! He's rarely talked about because of the main characters and how they're dressed but for some reason, I noticed because he was more on the normal and less outlandishly dressed (by Capitol standards) side of things. His teeth stood out for me so aggressively too! It makes perfect sense to me because so very TALK SHOW HOST of him! The majority of people with talk shows (I say majority since there are a handful of exceptions) rarely dress in such a big attention-grabbing way, just to give the focus to their actual guests! So in this case it's Caesar with all the Tributes/Victors! He's still crazy dressed with the hair, suits, teeth and all by real-world standards, but in-world, it just works! + Stanley Tucci knew what he was doing asking for those scary-white teeth!
Stanley is a genius, and I find it so curious that I noticed his teeth so much even all the way back when the film came out, and found them a lil creepy ahaha
Loved this video so much! Especially the part where you mention how when you saw the films as a kid you didn’t know much about fashion but despite that it’s worth exploring the reactions you had to the styling even then. I was 13 when the first film came out and I remember thinking that all the capitol citizens (including Effie) looked really stupid and unserious, looking back now I ofc love a lot of the styling for the capitol but obviously it’s fun that the film spends so much time in the beginning with the district 12 citizens so you get used to how they dress and how they NEED to dress in order to do their jobs and provide for their families. It makes Effie feel like an alien when she’s first introduced, which is fitting considering for most of these kids it might be the first time they’ve ever seen someone from the capitol in the flesh. To them they’re almost like an entirely different species.
yeah I think their over the top fashion shows how much time they have on their hands to compare to district 12 ppl! I also think that natural reactions we had before we learned about fashion and art are very important, since it is closer to what the average audience member is going to experience
On the topic of teeth. Something I really enjoy about the show Skins UK is how almost all the characters have "bad teeth" because it makes them all look like real people. One of my favorites is Cassie; even years after I last saw the show I still remember the way her teeth looked when she smiled. I think having teeth that aren't veneer perfect gives a character so much charm and I wish we saw that more now
I actually always thought that Hunger Games tho it's not about fashion at all handles the topic with a lot of nuance and very delicately for a big movie production. Like yes, people at the Capitol are meant to look absolutely too much and disgustingly frivolous. And the fashion reflects the over abundance they have access to. It also shows how ultimately high fashion and designer fashion is for the upper class, to separate them from normal people. And at the same time, it also shows how fashion can be a tool of resistance, like with Cinna's work on achieving Katniss' vision for her dresses, which he ends up killed for...
I was really surprised by what you said about how some people perceive it as a way of critiquing fashion. Even when I first read the books and saw the movies I always thought how it was so interesting that fashion, the way you present yourself can be so influential. Suzanne Collins absolutely was ahead of the curve with her work. It absolutely helped me gain more appreciation for fashion and the people behind it and I am so thankful for having it as one of my influences growing up. I loved that you talked about the hunger games fashion and I really hope you'll talk about it again! Also Finnick is my absolute favourite male character in fiction he's just too damn charming.
And it also shows what she had to deal with after winning, with her asking peeta what it feels like to be someone everyone wants to sleep with(same with Finnick)
I'm re-watching and re-reading Hunger games now and I'm so glad I found your channel because of it - I agree with everything you said ✨ I also feel slightly bad for liking the Capitol fashion as much as I do (I dress in a retrofuturism inspired by the 60s, but I'm sometimes borrowing some elements from things Effie wore there 🙈)
@@LisaFevral I know, but it's the symbolism behind it and the connection to The Hunger games I realise while I wear it 🙈 But the orange butterfly dress especially, these clothes are beautiful 🙈
They don’t demonize fashion, it’s just that people are starving across the districts and barely can wear clothes and then resources are being spent on tributes to dress them up to be shown like show ponies and then slaughtered so…
But Cesar's teeth were to be abnormally white because he was supposed to seem rich and fake. And costumes of side characters were supposed to be less spektacular than those worn by Effie Trinket because they were to show she is fashion icon. Very insightful video btw
Pita’s outfits when he is kept hostage by the Capitole and is interviewed by César are golden you neeed to talk about them! It make Katniss freakout even more real !
LOVE your in-depth analyses into both individual looks and the use of fashion overall to explore the themes of this series. I appreciate all of the visual references you include to illustrate other examples of similar styles and eras. Top tier video as always, and I'm really looking forward to the next part!
I wanted to add, that as we know it the hunger games are a critic on capitalism, but I also wanted to pinpoint that although the capitol was quite bad, it also higlights that fashion as an art, or Art in general people will never truly have the chance to fully embrace it or appreciate it without Time and Means. Also, I quite liked the visual and designing choices in the hunger games because in the books its far more muted, and its interesting because although I think that from a meta perspective the artist who created those looks for the movies were having lots of fun, and being able to express their crafts, I think that the Capitol looks were mostly created as extravagant, to help Real people dissociated themselves from the movies, just like how at some point marketing tried selling a makeup palette like the capitol but it didntw work obviously. But at the time people did not see the reference of Capitol people just being Us, but now the peopl see the parallels with Met galas and all... Its interesting also because the fashion in these movies is like an armor too: Effie who has a kind heart we discover, and is surrounded by fake people, and then when shes in district 13 she's stripped bare of what had been her identity, but it also signifies that she was more in touch with her humanity. (remember how in the books Effie points out how well behaved katniss was at the table, but Katniss said that it was because the children never had a chance to eat before. ) Also katniss jacket, people in the district dont have much, but she has her father's jacket, and its probably one of the only things she got. Or peeta, they dont show it in the movies but he became an amputee in the first games, he literally lost a part of himself. Lost a bit of his humanity ,and how at the end of the books nothing really is described, theyre just bare and worn out. Or how the district people have very few clothes, and theyre in contact with the Harsh realities of life, and that the instinct for survival is greater than anything. Capitol people are trying to find a meaning to their lives through fashion, and district people are struggling to survive harsh winters, or in the arena they have suits made for the environments and yet it does not signify that they will live. The hunger games are extremely well written, and I do believe that the movies missed a lot of important bits, they were still quite good, in transmitting the Overall Idea of the Hunger games, even more in reaction to how people interpreted the movies as a love story.
I love the hunger games, i love the fashion and i think this was a great analysis. I do think the books and movies have some "not like other girls" vibes when it comes to fashion. for example that cinna is considered the most moral person from the fashion teams while also being the one who has the least flashy outfits. i recently reread the books and noticing the differences in finnick's outfits in the movies vs in the books was really funny to me. the most noticable instance was with the outfit he wore during the wagon ride and first interview event in the capitol. his high waisted skirt looks a little dorky in the movies, while his book outfit is described as super sexy and scandalous ("He's draped in a golden net that's strategically knotted at his groin so that he can't technically be called naked, but he's about as close as you can get."). I think this goes hand in hand with them turning down the sexual aspects and backstory with finnicks character. especially how slimey he is when katniss first meets him. i think that's also why the one scene was cut from the movie that you showed in this video.
When I was a teen (and as a big fan of Edgar Allan Poe) One thing the Capitol fashion always reminded me of was "the masque of the red death." I thought it was purposeful? But I don't actually know if that's true haha. Also since I've never been able to "get rid" of my yellow teeth and ppl always thought I was like unhygienic and not brushing them and stuff, its so nice to hear this is an issue that isn't true for other areas of the world
9:02 Yes. It is unacceptable. Idc how long it's been. DISRESPECT AT THE HIGHEST ORDER. Same goes for the boys in The Outsiders. Enough! Enough I say! Edit: Also! A point about Art History. You're right about, well...the privileged artist. It's so interesting that art used to be gatekept in the Western and Eastern world due to accessibility (ig it's still kinda hard out here for freelancers). For the rest of us, I think it mainly served a spiritual purpose.
i’m obsessed with your content ! normally i don’t comment but it’s seriously eating at me, you look beautiful may i ask where you got your shirt ?? 😭 🌸
I never cared for the movies or the books (sorry), I never watched them... But the fashion is engraved in my memory. That monarch butterflies dress for example. Oh, while I remember! When you will start researching your Totally Spies deep dive, please do listen to the french s5 theme (titled Supergirl) it is an absolute banger and I'm incredibly sad the english version wasn't used. Also Konbini recently released an interview with the creators (in french).
I was obsessed with the Hunger Games in highschool!! And this video was a nice surprise, I'm always down for THG content! I wasn't really interested in the new movie coming out soon (I read the book a few years ago and I didn't like that much; maybe I'll read it again though), but uuuugh now I'm craving for more THG stuff. You got me interested in it! Great work as always! Also, Finnick's story was SO SAD.
I think THG was the first time I learned to identify literary symbolism on my own! I mean, it wasn’t much since I was 12 or 13 😅 but I realized there’s language in fashion by reading it.
Yeah like I can’t just casually read about ppl starving and dying (or watch the news about it) and then function like I’m supposed to to insure that I have money to buy food and such haha
i love seeing you smile, Lisa. Also the way you get frustrated over fashion sometimes is the highlight of my day because I've never met anyone who was as passionate about it as I am, also you look like a deadly bunny when you do get angry and it warms my heart. I love your videos and I'm honestly so glad you got better as I cried when you said you were sick... actually i was crying for like a week. ILY attack bun, please only change for the better
I did invisalign for a couple of years and I can assure you it does get better as your teeth get used to moving. I found it really hard to get used to at first.
@@LisaFevral oh no 😓 maybe try popping them in for a while then taking a break regularly and hopefully you will get used to the feeling. Hope it gets better for you 🙏
What’s interesting is that the fashion in the movies is different from the books in the books more ppl were like the Tigris in the last movie Mockjay part 2. Nonetheless the capital in the movie is still over the top but not as much as it could have been
It’s taking me almost a year to get through my Invisalign when it was supposed to be like 4-5 months. I also can’t stand the sensory issues, and they really do hurt all the flipping time
it really does feel unfair to see clips of finnick on my fyp and then have to go out into the real world and get reminded that most men are not hot or charismatic... like he's just too good it's upsetting !
I recently rewatched all of The Hunger Games because my TikTok is also crammed with HG content...love it! Also, your top is so cute! Where is it from? 💖
everyone is talking about hunger games, but also everyone has a lot deeper of an understanding of it and I'm LIVING for those analysis videos hehe and the top is from this brand called "ugly shadow"!
i don't have tiktok so i had no idea that the hunger games were being talked about again?? is it also because of the new movie?? anyways love the discussion as always. bruh it's been years n im still upset about cinna and finnicks death lol
I love that i grew up and started loving the movies differently. When wars and class divide started to affect me that is. bcuz now that i am a grown ass woman and have to think about it all the time and make do... It isnt a dystopian fantasy anymore. It is a parody of our reality. Shit is wild
Honestly I always had a hard time with this franchise bc it’s too real to how the global west exploits the global south, and people are capable of so much evil
@@LisaFevralsame and I remember being insecure and mad about it in hs because of the comments and not being able to afford braces and then people who had braces in my classes being like "my teeth used to look that way too" in a passive aggressive mean way
I didn't notice this before, but the outfits that Katniss and Peeta wear during the final interview in the first movie are the same colors from Disney's "Beauty and the Beast". Katniss is wearing a yellow dress like Belle while Peeta is wearing a blue suit like the Beast. I don't know if that was intentional or not, but it's so fitting. Since Katniss and Peeta are playing the part of passionate lovers, what better love story to reference than the tale as old as time?
I feel you when you talked about how the media you consume affects your mood. I swear some things are too real...i watched We Are All Dead & I had nightmares about zombies for 3 nights 😭
Well i decided that too but I've been catching myself looking at such like average at best men and then I'll be like ew get yourself together a few mins later
damn why do i feel like i was sleeping on the hunger game this is the second essau i am watching on the hunger games from fashion to the class system being a reflection of real life colonialism urgh i really need to watch it again.
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the way Cinna and Katniss remain the most iconic fashion duo in film history! and Effie would eat every celebrity at the Met Gala.
ikr, and she SO would!!
People saying in twitter that Cinna and Katniss are just Law Roach and Zendaya in an alternate universe and I couldn't agree more
Omg honestly yeah
I absolutely love how the Hunger Games uses fashion. Like, it's not just criticizing the Capital, it just shows how people of a certain class use and have historically used fashion. It's SO important and says so much about your status. Katniss spends a great deal of time talking about the fabrics they wore and the work that went into them. In the Capital, fashion doesn't have to be practical, it has to be ostentatious and get you noticed. They don't have to work hard, so they can go wild and it looks odd to the working class...
And her relationship to Cinna I think showed her the importance of fashion, every outfit he put her in had a purpose. He made her realize that clothes are a tool for everyone. And it's written so well that you don't really feel like you're getting preached at about how amazing fashion is... it's just a factor of the story.
Yesss omg you said it perfectly
I think Katniss alway knew that clothes were a class signifier because of the thing with her moms old fancy clothes and how she and prim never looked unkempt to matter how poor they were. I think Cinna showed her how clothes can be used to send a message and create a character that could be understood by people in the capital and the districts.
@@Sheena000 Yes, that's basically what I was saying, though I may have worded it confusingly. She always noticed the clothes, the fabric, the work that went into them all before she met Cinna, but he showed her that fashion was a sort of tool with a function beyond covering the body.
Suzanne Collins was so ahead of the curve and it's precisely because she worked in children's tv for years before writing hunger games. She saw how young people were pampered and dressed up for these shows and understood how image is used as a tool in the media industry. When you think of celebrities like Zendaya and Millie Bobby Brown, both of those actresses used fashion as a way to “mature” their look as they became adults; it made people take them seriously. I also love how realistic the fashion is because it taps into history- wealthy classes wore impractical lavish clothes while the impoverished had to make do. The reason hunger games worked while the knock offs that followed failed was because Suzanne Collins had something to say. Her father was in the air force, she worked with children in the media and she saw the industry for what it was and called it out. Fashion works in the hunger games like how it works in the real world - it's a tool of empowerment, it's a tool of oppression and it creates symbols. Fashion isn't just one thing and she doesn't treat it like one thing. For a young adult novel it is so sophisticated.
I agree, but I also saw an interview with her where she describes her inspiration for the book and how it’s strange that we have this detachment from the images of war, but I didn’t like that she was presenting it as something that created distance from ppl like her father(soldiers invading), rather than Vietnamese people that were forced to endure the horrors. Veterans in america are treated well and constantly show up in classes to tell kids about war and such, but the disconnect I think is with the way the west views countries that are invaded. So I find it very weird that she would say that, bc the book seemed a lot more nuanced than that take
@@LisaFevral I didn't think about it that way but you are definitely correct. I'm not from the USA so I can't speak on how veterans are treated there cause I simply don't know much about it. I think her work absolutely has limitations, whether that be her own writing/bias, upbringing or just restrictions of the genre. That's why I think New Adult novels like The Poppy Wars are better novels that deal with a similar subject matter; there are more layers and nuances. It's more brutal, realistic and it doesn't shy away from being a post-colonial novel that tackles war from all scales and how it affects everyone. The Hunger Games is, at the end of the day, written for children/teenagers and I think it is hard to tackle everything when you are writing allegorically for that audience. I would love to know which interview if you have the link or just more info if you have any.
I don’t want the comment to be hidden automatically by UA-cam, so I’m not gonna add a link but search “suzanne Collins on the Vietnam war stories behind the hunger games” and there’s a 3 min video of her talking
@@LisaFevral awesome thanks so much- great vid btw!
when i read hunger games at ~12 i loved katniss' perspective on fashion bc my family was low income and went to a school where richer kids had name brands and i felt very out of place. where my family couldnt afford medicine it was wild to me to see kids bring $1000 handbags to school. im glad people realize the depth of katniss' character now but a few years ago people labelled her as "not like the other girls" bc she didnt have "societally feminine" interests. well yea if youve been the sole provider for your family and can barely afford food, fashion isnt going to be ur top priority and ur going to feel like "not like the other girls" lmao.
i love fashion now but there is this internal battle of liking pretty things but not buying too much either.
Omg that take that ppl had on katniss and that she is “not like other girls” was soooo stupid! She’s a very realistic character that is living a life outside of creating an identity through purchases bc she has no time for that since she needs to hunt, clean, sell meat at the market, etc… people really just say anything sometimes! But also I definitely feel you on that haha
@@LisaFevral glad u could agree :D and yea i feel some people lack the depth to understand katniss' "cold" exterior and it totally makes sense in the capitol and even at her school, for her to feel not like the other girls. this is why i feel people overdo it when critiquing not like the other girls characters bc they fail to take into account class difference, sexuality, race, etc into why characters feel like theyre "different"
great video!
Also literally anyone else from a lot of non career districts would be exactly like katniss, and would be considered not like other girls, I think ppl just have a warped understanding of her, bc the context of many ppls lives is so different from hers
@@zainabreads4382 This is such a good point! I feel like people misunderstand the concept of not-like-other-girls so much nowadays. It was never supposed to be a critique of girls who just happen to be different, who literally just happen to not be like the other girls. It was only ever supposed to critique girls/women who are performative about their difference and hold it up as a token of superiority above 'normal' women, the ones who denigrate any girls/women who are stereotypically feminine in comparison. It wasn't just that they happened to be different, it was that they used their difference to reinforce the patriarchal value of femininity being inferior... Also... it was never that serious, it was generally about teenagers going through a rebellious/outcast phase and not recognising their internalised misogyny. Most of the people talking about NLOGs back in the day were former NLOGs themselves who grew up and were reflecting on what made them feel that way as kids.
But now I'm starting to see it get applied to anyone female who just... is literally different from the norm. It's so frustrating. You can be as different as you like, as long as you aren't against other people being stereotypically feminine, as long as you don't denigrate femininity then you aren't not-like-other-girls, you're just your own unique self. When people use it to shoot down any girl who's naturally different, they basically bring it all the way back to reinforcing patriarchal values, stereotypes and conformity.
The capital fashion always gave me “let them eat cake” vibes
Words that was never said by anyone
Marie Antoinette NEVER said that at all 💀
@@idontsm0ke Historical words regardless if they are based on fact or fiction.
@@nicolcacola fictional Words whatsoever 💀
Nobody may have said that in real life, but I KNOW people in the Capitol have
@@idontsm0ke regardless of her not saying it those words still hold truth to what was happening in that era in France, so saying that the capital has those vibes is valid,considering is still a critic to the aristocracy, and in the case of hunger games, to the elite of the capital
The fashion sense in this movie quite ahead of it's time. The Hunger Games bring back a lot of memories and i'm honestly surprised that the fandom is still alive. I can't wait for the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!
I think the fashion is very well done, and most of all, it's going to age well, bc imo it is out of time, since it is pulling from so many different time periods
I wouldn't say it's ahead of its time. It pulls from different past time periods. Plus it is very heavily reminiscent of john galliano's work from the late 90s for Dior.
@@bluebird6533 i called it, "ahead of it's time", because of it's quirkiness and Lady Gaga'esque style though
I didnt know ppl had been perceiving the fashion in the books in that way n its such a surface level understanding like i was literally 12 when i read them n even then i was grasping at least a little bit how cinna was using fashion as a tool for katniss to be perceived in certain ways like from what i remember the book was pretty explicit abt it a lot of the time like girl i barely remember most of the love triangle but i sure as hell remember that yellow dress being used to make her look innocent n having her n peeta sit together in a loveseat to sell their love in the post games interview
yup! I was surprised that people said that too, it's really not that subtle haha
First i was bullied for my mechanic dad shirts because of Bella and then for my combat jackets because of Katniss and i wouldn't have it any other way 🥰
combat jackets are coooool though hehe
Elizabeth Banks’s Outfits (especially that Purple one) were simply iconic and must’ve given drag performers across the world some joy and inspiration.
it's honestly so well done and Elizabeth did an excellent job portraying Effie!
@@LisaFevral Shoutout to the Costume Designer, Trish Summerville.
AND Judianna Makovsky, the costume designer of the first movie
@@LisaFevral Shoutout to that Costuming Department.
Can’t speak to the popularity of the purple design in particular, but when it comes to makeup inspiration I can speak to that a little! Can confirm, as someone who knows and has done makeup for drag queens- that while whitening the face, like Effie does, thankfully didn’t catch on in drag makeup fashion (to my limited knowledge, anyway), there’s definitely been some inspiration pulled from the hunger games and capitol makeup trends that I’ve seen in drag makeup over the years. But it should also be said, that I’m sure a lot of drag makeup and fashion were used as the original basis or inspiration for some of the designs we see in the films.
Fashion and trends are cyclical, and makeup is no exception, everything is inspired by something else, etc. etc.
I was saying that people comparing the Met Gala (a fundraising event for a museum department that is almost entirely dependent on charity, where most of the artful, extravagant looks are borrowed and destined to become archive or exhibition pieces) to the Capitol people in the Hunger Games reminded me of that one tweet that was like "Dude who has only seen one movie and it's the Boss Baby, watching his second movie ever: Hey this has got kinda a Boss Baby feeling to it..." but for Haute Couture runway looks.
Like, they saw Effie Trinket in McQueen a few times and now anyone wearing anything dramatic gets accused of being a decadent teen death enjoyer. It's always someone mad about people wasting energy making "fancy clothes", don't give a damn about exploitation and balk at paying more than $25 for a graphic tee they will wear hundreds of times. The fancy clothes at the Gala are more likely to be made by people with a decent wage and benefits (not guaranteed, I know! I've seen it!) than the clothes people have had regular access to buying for almost a generation. Most people who read or watch The Hunger Games don't realise they themselves probably live in the Imperial Core and have more in common with the Capitol residents than they'd like.
Also, I've been doing invisalign since 2021 and have another 30+ weeks left AMA :')
you know it wouldn't be that bad if they would've worn that graphic tee hundreds of times, but in reality it is like 5 times before they throw it out
30+ more???? reallY? omg
@@LisaFevral yes ma'am, I just switched to tray 4/39 and my previous course I got 56/64 before my refinement came in, and the previous course was done at two weeks per tray for like a third of the trays 😭
I'm doing it to fix a molar that was sideways and causing TMJ from a fucked up bite, regular braces would have been incompatible with my life (read, my dental hygiene would tank if cleaning my teeth became more complicated) so I opted for Invisalign since the cost was basically the same. My refinement is going to be so long mostly bc the doc knows I'm worn down and won't be wearing the trays 22 hours a day like is usually prescribed, so the shifts are very small week to week.
@@LisaFevral ik ik, genuinely if someone does buy and wear clothes at that price and love them to pieces are much better than overconsumption!
I was trying to give an impression of the type of person who discounts the value of clothing to the point of simply utilitarian objects that should not cost more than a fast food purchase. Like if you're wearing something hundreds of times over the course of years, maybe saving up enough to buy a more ethically made shirt for 2-3x the cost of an Amazon reseller shirt, as a treat? People with the means to regularly update/upgrade their stuff every few years with use, like getting a nicer coffee grinder after making your own coffee every day for years, yet many people never make that same leap with clothes.
"Most people who read or watch The Hunger Games don't realise they themselves probably live in the Imperial Core and have more in common with the Capitol residents than they'd like." Preach. I feel like people are in denial about this very fact because the films are so over the top and of course it's an uncomfortable truth to admit.
Man, I wasn't even into fashion when I read the book and watched the movies, but I still enjoyed the description and the presentation of the looks, which just shows how powerful tool of communication fashion can be
Sam Claflin really never had a better role than Finnick Odair. Finnick was also my favourite character. I was so horrified when he died. I loved how you went off on a tangent just to talk about Finnick. I like how you talked about how people have such a shallow reading of fashion just because the Capitol people were giving off Let Them Eat Cake vibes, when the revolution similarly used fashion to create a symbol. It's basically reflected in history as well, an example being how makeup companies (Revlon? or Max Factor?) turned makeup into a symbol of Nationalism for the Americans during WWII.
Idk girl, Finnick is alive actually👀👀 he’s totally fine👀👀
Same with Hugo boss and what they were doing back in the day
You appreciating Finnick O'Dair as he deserves is everything.❤
He’s so perfect it’s hurting my feelings🤘🏻😔🤘🏻
they was so real for casting sam claflin as finnick, omg
they genuinely snapped on that bc I'm ENTRANCED
this is such an interesting conversation to have bc it reminds me of when my freshman english teacher had us read the hunger games. this was like 2012 movie era and it was really such perfect timing to be able to read the hunger games and look at it critically while it being one of the most popular franchises at the time. one of our first projects was literally designing outfits for each district based on what the district is known for, and what political messages we're trying to send with them. to say that fashion is condemned and presented as inherently consumerist and frivolous in the book ignores the impact the fashion in the story had on its messages and symbolism.
I 100% agree!
the "sending kids to their deaths" part felt so painful and real sister I understand why you went down the rabbit hole after watching THG
And it only gets more depressing after the first book/movie, so I have to avoid it sometimes ahahah
I loved how fashion was used to show the Capitol's extravagance and privilege, contrasted to the suffering district's who don't have access to art or fashion coz they're too busy surviving. And how Cinna also showed that it can be art or a weapon to manipulate the masses with. The way fashion was integrated in the story was actually one of my fave things about it. I like when fashion are described in stories I read. Not only for aesthetic reasons but for also envisioning the character. Fashion having a function in the story is a huge plus as well.
Yeah, I find the world a lot more believable when it has its own art and trends/fashion
i never finished reading the books for the same reasons you mentioned not being able to re-read it now, the topics are too depressing and hit way too close to home especially in the current global climate - but from what i managed to get through, i realized suzanne collins really does understand the importance of fashion as form of communication and to form community. there's an emphasis in what people wear but not in scrutinizing way, more so in trying to understand them and their intentions from the things they wear first. we all unconsciously tell a story with our clothes even before saying a word, suzanne really understands that.
Yeah like i still haven’t seen the last two movie in full, only clips, bc it’s just too depressing and heavy. Like obviously it’s not real, but I am easily affected by what o watch/read, and I think we’re all gonna have to deal with really sad things in life anyway, so I don’t like to inflict these emotions on myself about a fake scenario
The black outfits that Katniss and Peet’s wear for the tribute parade in Catching Fire are really interesting
Considering that the chose a more gothic wedding look
Much like their first tribute parade
I think they wear black for both parades, and it's definitely interesting, but also thankfully not the whole thing(bc it was like 73 years of coal inspired outfits before this for district 12)
@@LisaFevral Yes they wear black in both parades.
And I find that interesting in Catching Fire, because in that movie, for the pre-games publicity, they focused a lot more on their relationship and wedding (in the victory tour before the 75th games, in the interviews, and with the wedding dress and Peeta's wedding suit).
But the parade outfits for me at least emulate sort of an aggressive, dark, angry version of that publicity they were doing for so long. It's a dark twist on the lovey-dovey narrative they created for them, Finnick even tells Katniss she looks terrifying, which is off-brand for both of them.
Definitely, I think it makes sense since the white dress already turned to the mockingjay dark dress, so it’s like a continuation… and also not Finnick saying “you certainly have” to katniss telling him that she outgrew her cute dresses🥵💍😭
Really glad you pointed out Caesar Flickerman's outfits in The Hunger Games! He's rarely talked about because of the main characters and how they're dressed but for some reason, I noticed because he was more on the normal and less outlandishly dressed (by Capitol standards) side of things. His teeth stood out for me so aggressively too! It makes perfect sense to me because so very TALK SHOW HOST of him! The majority of people with talk shows (I say majority since there are a handful of exceptions) rarely dress in such a big attention-grabbing way, just to give the focus to their actual guests! So in this case it's Caesar with all the Tributes/Victors! He's still crazy dressed with the hair, suits, teeth and all by real-world standards, but in-world, it just works! + Stanley Tucci knew what he was doing asking for those scary-white teeth!
Stanley is a genius, and I find it so curious that I noticed his teeth so much even all the way back when the film came out, and found them a lil creepy ahaha
Seneca crane's beard is ingrained in my mind. i see it every time i think of hunger games coz he slayed
That was honestly iconic, he got a memorable look right away ahh
Loved this video so much! Especially the part where you mention how when you saw the films as a kid you didn’t know much about fashion but despite that it’s worth exploring the reactions you had to the styling even then. I was 13 when the first film came out and I remember thinking that all the capitol citizens (including Effie) looked really stupid and unserious, looking back now I ofc love a lot of the styling for the capitol but obviously it’s fun that the film spends so much time in the beginning with the district 12 citizens so you get used to how they dress and how they NEED to dress in order to do their jobs and provide for their families. It makes Effie feel like an alien when she’s first introduced, which is fitting considering for most of these kids it might be the first time they’ve ever seen someone from the capitol in the flesh. To them they’re almost like an entirely different species.
yeah I think their over the top fashion shows how much time they have on their hands to compare to district 12 ppl! I also think that natural reactions we had before we learned about fashion and art are very important, since it is closer to what the average audience member is going to experience
You’re so right, that outfit of lady Gaga remind me really a lot of Capitol’s fashion
Schiaparelli!
On the topic of teeth. Something I really enjoy about the show Skins UK is how almost all the characters have "bad teeth" because it makes them all look like real people. One of my favorites is Cassie; even years after I last saw the show I still remember the way her teeth looked when she smiled. I think having teeth that aren't veneer perfect gives a character so much charm and I wish we saw that more now
I actually always thought that Hunger Games tho it's not about fashion at all handles the topic with a lot of nuance and very delicately for a big movie production. Like yes, people at the Capitol are meant to look absolutely too much and disgustingly frivolous. And the fashion reflects the over abundance they have access to. It also shows how ultimately high fashion and designer fashion is for the upper class, to separate them from normal people. And at the same time, it also shows how fashion can be a tool of resistance, like with Cinna's work on achieving Katniss' vision for her dresses, which he ends up killed for...
I was really surprised by what you said about how some people perceive it as a way of critiquing fashion. Even when I first read the books and saw the movies I always thought how it was so interesting that fashion, the way you present yourself can be so influential. Suzanne Collins absolutely was ahead of the curve with her work. It absolutely helped me gain more appreciation for fashion and the people behind it and I am so thankful for having it as one of my influences growing up. I loved that you talked about the hunger games fashion and I really hope you'll talk about it again! Also Finnick is my absolute favourite male character in fiction he's just too damn charming.
Ikr Finnick is literally the dream😭
Absolutely, I will accept no other! ❤
Lee Taeyong and Finnick Odair? Girl you have amazing taste 👑
Ikr they’re sooooooo😭😭😭💍💍
yes! I loved your observation about teeth and capitalism
I swear to god, the new hunger game craze is the only thing that's making me feel alive at this point
till this day Im chocked about that johanna scene in the tribute elevator, it was such a good scene to introduce her
And it also shows what she had to deal with after winning, with her asking peeta what it feels like to be someone everyone wants to sleep with(same with Finnick)
I'm re-watching and re-reading Hunger games now and I'm so glad I found your channel because of it - I agree with everything you said ✨ I also feel slightly bad for liking the Capitol fashion as much as I do (I dress in a retrofuturism inspired by the 60s, but I'm sometimes borrowing some elements from things Effie wore there 🙈)
I think their fashion is not bad, it’s rather the fact that they can have all that while other people have nothing, so no need to feel bad ahaha
@@LisaFevral I know, but it's the symbolism behind it and the connection to The Hunger games I realise while I wear it 🙈 But the orange butterfly dress especially, these clothes are beautiful 🙈
Лиза прям пашет😳 огромное количество апдейтов, и это после работы над Братц...
мне даже стало стыдно, что я все майские проспала
Реально, очень вдохновляет её продуктивность 😭❤
They don’t demonize fashion, it’s just that people are starving across the districts and barely can wear clothes and then resources are being spent on tributes to dress them up to be shown like show ponies and then slaughtered so…
that’s what I’m saying too ahaha
7:40 - 8:37 OH THIS WHOLE SEQUENCE HKWKAJKSDH UR SO REAL
My heart is ice cold 24/7 for years until I remember Finnick🥵💍
But Cesar's teeth were to be abnormally white because he was supposed to seem rich and fake. And costumes of side characters were supposed to be less spektacular than those worn by Effie Trinket because they were to show she is fashion icon. Very insightful video btw
Pita’s outfits when he is kept hostage by the Capitole and is interviewed by César are golden you neeed to talk about them!
It make Katniss freakout even more real !
i almost dropped my phone at work oops, im gonna watch as soon as i get home- im obsessed with the hunger games and fashion and i love your videos ♡
a perfect combo😏
8:22 I felt that in my bones... I think you did a really good job at dissecting some of the looks
Omgg i love the top!!!! So cute and bloom-esque✨
Thank youuu🥰🥰🤍
LOVE your in-depth analyses into both individual looks and the use of fashion overall to explore the themes of this series. I appreciate all of the visual references you include to illustrate other examples of similar styles and eras. Top tier video as always, and I'm really looking forward to the next part!
thank you😭😭
I held my breath and.. yes finnik got his moment. His grip on me has been tightened once more⛓️
Wow I really stopped right before the deleted scenes with finnick..grip? He has my soul…
I had a child (as a volunteer at a school) tell me my teeth were yellow and drew me with yellow teeth once, traumatizing tbh /hj
I wanted to add, that as we know it the hunger games are a critic on capitalism, but I also wanted to pinpoint that although the capitol was quite bad, it also higlights that fashion as an art, or Art in general people will never truly have the chance to fully embrace it or appreciate it without Time and Means. Also, I quite liked the visual and designing choices in the hunger games because in the books its far more muted, and its interesting because although I think that from a meta perspective the artist who created those looks for the movies were having lots of fun, and being able to express their crafts, I think that the Capitol looks were mostly created as extravagant, to help Real people dissociated themselves from the movies, just like how at some point marketing tried selling a makeup palette like the capitol but it didntw work obviously. But at the time people did not see the reference of Capitol people just being Us, but now the peopl see the parallels with Met galas and all... Its interesting also because the fashion in these movies is like an armor too: Effie who has a kind heart we discover, and is surrounded by fake people, and then when shes in district 13 she's stripped bare of what had been her identity, but it also signifies that she was more in touch with her humanity. (remember how in the books Effie points out how well behaved katniss was at the table, but Katniss said that it was because the children never had a chance to eat before. ) Also katniss jacket, people in the district dont have much, but she has her father's jacket, and its probably one of the only things she got. Or peeta, they dont show it in the movies but he became an amputee in the first games, he literally lost a part of himself. Lost a bit of his humanity ,and how at the end of the books nothing really is described, theyre just bare and worn out. Or how the district people have very few clothes, and theyre in contact with the Harsh realities of life, and that the instinct for survival is greater than anything. Capitol people are trying to find a meaning to their lives through fashion, and district people are struggling to survive harsh winters, or in the arena they have suits made for the environments and yet it does not signify that they will live. The hunger games are extremely well written, and I do believe that the movies missed a lot of important bits, they were still quite good, in transmitting the Overall Idea of the Hunger games, even more in reaction to how people interpreted the movies as a love story.
I love the hunger games, i love the fashion and i think this was a great analysis. I do think the books and movies have some "not like other girls" vibes when it comes to fashion. for example that cinna is considered the most moral person from the fashion teams while also being the one who has the least flashy outfits.
i recently reread the books and noticing the differences in finnick's outfits in the movies vs in the books was really funny to me. the most noticable instance was with the outfit he wore during the wagon ride and first interview event in the capitol. his high waisted skirt looks a little dorky in the movies, while his book outfit is described as super sexy and scandalous ("He's draped in a golden net that's strategically knotted at his groin so that he can't technically be called naked, but he's about as close as you can get."). I think this goes hand in hand with them turning down the sexual aspects and backstory with finnicks character. especially how slimey he is when katniss first meets him. i think that's also why the one scene was cut from the movie that you showed in this video.
Never in my life have I clicked on a new video notification faster than for this one!
When I was a teen (and as a big fan of Edgar Allan Poe) One thing the Capitol fashion always reminded me of was "the masque of the red death." I thought it was purposeful? But I don't actually know if that's true haha.
Also since I've never been able to "get rid" of my yellow teeth and ppl always thought I was like unhygienic and not brushing them and stuff, its so nice to hear this is an issue that isn't true for other areas of the world
I swear you are feeding my Hunger Games renaissance phase rn
I’m so caught up in it, literally feel like we’re back in 2012
I came into this remembering next to nothing about the series, but now 😮💨 emotional flashbacks 💥
it was a wold ride reading these books omfg
Probably the Effie reaping look from THG 2. Also I think it would be fun to contrast the tributes in part 1 and in part 2
9:02 Yes. It is unacceptable. Idc how long it's been. DISRESPECT AT THE HIGHEST ORDER. Same goes for the boys in The Outsiders. Enough! Enough I say! Edit: Also! A point about Art History. You're right about, well...the privileged artist. It's so interesting that art used to be gatekept in the Western and Eastern world due to accessibility (ig it's still kinda hard out here for freelancers). For the rest of us, I think it mainly served a spiritual purpose.
So disrespectful😭 and yeah, even nowadays, fine art is gate kept and full of rich kids bc otherwise you can’t afford to be in art
Finally 😭 i was waiting for a video like this from you
i’m obsessed with your content ! normally i don’t comment but it’s seriously eating at me, you look beautiful may i ask where you got your shirt ?? 😭 🌸
thank you!! and it's from a brand called "ugly shadow"
I never cared for the movies or the books (sorry), I never watched them... But the fashion is engraved in my memory. That monarch butterflies dress for example.
Oh, while I remember! When you will start researching your Totally Spies deep dive, please do listen to the french s5 theme (titled Supergirl) it is an absolute banger and I'm incredibly sad the english version wasn't used. Also Konbini recently released an interview with the creators (in french).
Yeah that dress was very memorable! And thank you, I’ll check it out!
I was obsessed with the Hunger Games in highschool!! And this video was a nice surprise, I'm always down for THG content! I wasn't really interested in the new movie coming out soon (I read the book a few years ago and I didn't like that much; maybe I'll read it again though), but uuuugh now I'm craving for more THG stuff. You got me interested in it! Great work as always!
Also, Finnick's story was SO SAD.
In this household Finnick is alive and well and happy😀
I think THG was the first time I learned to identify literary symbolism on my own!
I mean, it wasn’t much since I was 12 or 13 😅 but I realized there’s language in fashion by reading it.
not lisa using all of her meme sounds for finnick 😂😭
I had to use them all, girl, literally ALL OF THEM😭😭😭
9:42 omg same
i can't consume media that i know will make me feel sad if i need to go about my day as usual lol
Yeah like I can’t just casually read about ppl starving and dying (or watch the news about it) and then function like I’m supposed to to insure that I have money to buy food and such haha
i love seeing you smile, Lisa. Also the way you get frustrated over fashion sometimes is the highlight of my day because I've never met anyone who was as passionate about it as I am, also you look like a deadly bunny when you do get angry and it warms my heart. I love your videos and I'm honestly so glad you got better as I cried when you said you were sick... actually i was crying for like a week. ILY attack bun, please only change for the better
Thank you🤍🤍🤍
I wake up and Lisa posts ❤
your reaction to finnick's deleted scene lmao i love it
I forgot how much I love him🥵🥵
Your videos are always so interesting!
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YOU WON’Y GET IT HOW MUCH I’M RIGHT NOW SEEING YOU TALKING ABOUT HUNGER GAMESSS
I did invisalign for a couple of years and I can assure you it does get better as your teeth get used to moving. I found it really hard to get used to at first.
thank god bc it's so annoying ahahah thankfully I only need to wear it for 11 weeks, but I'm still pissy like a child ahaha
@@LisaFevral I know what you mean though. At first it was like my teeth were almost itchy and it used to make me feel angry and agitated haha
Yeah wearing them makes me nauseous and being nauseous causes me anxiety so I can’t wait till I get used to it😭😭
@@LisaFevral oh no 😓 maybe try popping them in for a while then taking a break regularly and hopefully you will get used to the feeling. Hope it gets better for you 🙏
It got better!! I don’t feel nauseous anymore!!
oh i used to LOVE me some finnick
Yearning for Finnick🤘🏻😔🤘🏻
10:00 same 😅 I think for me this explains why I enjoy more fiction books rather than anything non-fiction
What’s interesting is that the fashion in the movies is different from the books in the books more ppl were like the Tigris in the last movie Mockjay part 2. Nonetheless the capital in the movie is still over the top but not as much as it could have been
I think it’s all bc of what Hollywood wanted at the time. They’re quite hesitant to do anything too extravagant
It’s taking me almost a year to get through my Invisalign when it was supposed to be like 4-5 months. I also can’t stand the sensory issues, and they really do hurt all the flipping time
Omg why is it taking so much longer??
it really does feel unfair to see clips of finnick on my fyp and then have to go out into the real world and get reminded that most men are not hot or charismatic... like he's just too good it's upsetting !
truly sick and twisted...like how is he this magnetic🥵🥵🥵
Your videos makes my day better! ^^
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Couldn’t agree more, needed cheering up ! 🤞
Looking forward to p2! Just finished THG for the first time some days ago, haha
The book or movie??
@@LisaFevral the movies! And Finnick ate!
Gorgeous gorgeous Finnick😭😭😭
At first I read "it's fashion Amaral?" And I was like... You know what? Maybe it is (Amaral is a spanish band from the 00's)
They might’ve invented it🫡🫡
I recently rewatched all of The Hunger Games because my TikTok is also crammed with HG content...love it! Also, your top is so cute! Where is it from? 💖
everyone is talking about hunger games, but also everyone has a lot deeper of an understanding of it and I'm LIVING for those analysis videos hehe and the top is from this brand called "ugly shadow"!
I do remember it feeling other worldly because of the setting
and lack of eyebrows(for capital citizens ahaha)
Wait that le sserafim moment caught me off guard lol and combined with a Finnick close up? oof dangerous
Forbidden Finnick hours ahahahah
i don't have tiktok so i had no idea that the hunger games were being talked about again?? is it also because of the new movie?? anyways love the discussion as always.
bruh it's been years n im still upset about cinna and finnicks death lol
If you want a TON of hunger games vids - tiktok is full of them rn!!
They’re both alive and well😀 eating fruits and veggies😀😀 taking their vitamins😀😀😀
I love that i grew up and started loving the movies differently. When wars and class divide started to affect me that is. bcuz now that i am a grown ass woman and have to think about it all the time and make do... It isnt a dystopian fantasy anymore. It is a parody of our reality. Shit is wild
Honestly I always had a hard time with this franchise bc it’s too real to how the global west exploits the global south, and people are capable of so much evil
my teacher gave us a book to read yesterday and it’s the hunger games 🤞🤞
Have you read it before or is it gonna be the first time for you?
@@LisaFevral yes i have to read the first ninety pages till friday currently i am at the beginning of chapter 4
@@LisaFevralbut I have already watched the movies so I know who dies when yeah 😐
I was bullied in hs for not having braces or super straight teeth and not being able to afford them
yup, my teeth were not too bad but I still got comments bc I couldn't straighten them (also due to money)
@@LisaFevralsame and I remember being insecure and mad about it in hs because of the comments and not being able to afford braces and then people who had braces in my classes being like "my teeth used to look that way too" in a passive aggressive mean way
Yeah it was so stupid, its crazy
Again you post right when I'm meant to go to sleep 🫨
sorry😭😭
I'm SCREAMING at the "I wish for what is forbidden" 😂😂😂
finnick🥵🥵🥵
I’m gonna start saying “it’s sick and twisted” to the girlis and the gays whenever I’m feeling fun n fresh.
Yesss it’s gonna be our thing🫡
AL FIN!!!! ❤❤💞💞💗💗💖💖
I didn't notice this before, but the outfits that Katniss and Peeta wear during the final interview in the first movie are the same colors from Disney's "Beauty and the Beast". Katniss is wearing a yellow dress like Belle while Peeta is wearing a blue suit like the Beast. I don't know if that was intentional or not, but it's so fitting. Since Katniss and Peeta are playing the part of passionate lovers, what better love story to reference than the tale as old as time?
liking for finnik material and loving it bc you talking about the yessss
Love this and you
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waits for season 8 deep dive cutely
of winx*
Love fashion. Love these movies. Love Finnick ❤
Love Finnick x2😭😭
I feel you when you talked about how the media you consume affects your mood. I swear some things are too real...i watched We Are All Dead & I had nightmares about zombies for 3 nights 😭
I don’t have dreams that often, so for me it’s mostly the feeling of doom after ahahhaha
I also have to keep on mind how the media I consume affects my mood.
please talk about peeta and finickkkkk
All I wanna do is talk about them, especially Finnick🥵😭😭😭😭
"when was the last time you saw an attractive man in the wild" girl its so bad whats going onnn am i gonna have to settle for an average man???
I decided awhile ago I'm not settling ahahah if I gotta stay alone - that's fine with me ahahha
but seriously, wtf is going on
Well i decided that too but I've been catching myself looking at such like average at best men and then I'll be like ew get yourself together a few mins later
ahahahaahah omg
I feel it to, seriously, why do girls have to be pretty, and men can look like shit?
Great video! Thanks !
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when i look at the capitol citizens’ attires i think of art deco!
I can definitely see that!
Anyway your hair💋 you ate
thank you🥰🥰
Тоже теперь не могу нормально воспринимать книги и фильмы про войну😬😬😬
damn why do i feel like i was sleeping on the hunger game this is the second essau i am watching on the hunger games from fashion to the class system being a reflection of real life colonialism urgh i really need to watch it again.
I felt nothing for Finnick but the Taeyong part OMG he’s one of the only real men to make me feel anything
Idk if you’ve read the books, but Finnick only hits when you do ahaha both of them are my bbgs🤘🏻😔🤘🏻
Slightly off white teeth got me like 😻
Who would win in a fight?....Finnick or Taeyong? 😭💀
Babe… physical? Finnick. But a fight for my heart? God only knows😔