The Oyster 💳 Card Reader is Always Right!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Doubledeckeranton, explains how the 'oyster card reader' works and how passengers, always have a reason, why there oyster, isn't working properly...!!! 🤔💭🤦♂️🤦♀️
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I don't even live in London why am I watching this
FWRajah if you ever make a trip to London and decide to use a bus, using this card is your only option as buses no longer take cash
You're watching it because the driver is actually a member of the Night's Watch.
I'm from Spain and this system is just amazing for tourists. You just touch with your credit card and get in.
Good luck trying some so simple here with our crappy mass transit systems :\
Gabriel
This system just seems horrible to me. You are basically excluded from public transport if you don't have one of these cards or another supported credit or debit card.
That's nothing I just watched a tutorial on how to pump fuel without arms despite having them both.
The problem that usually arises with 11-15 or 16-18 year olds is they should get free bus travel, but despite this, the card WON'T let them travel with negative money, say if they miscalculated a tube fair and now need a bus, and the gate let them out with negative balance, they just can't get on the bus, and the machine claims you don't have enough money. For a FREE bus ride. With 11-15 year old's it isn't usually an issue because you can tell they're young. For 16-18 years old though, you're kinda screwed if the bus driver is in a bad enough mood.
What if you show the driver the card with your face and expiry date on it?
Oyster is the thin end of a fascist surveillance system... Dave Wetzel's Travelcard was the business - Just noting.
It makes me laugh because he said it’s never wrong but Ive been on loads of buses were I couldn’t get on and I’m 15 so I get the fair free 😂😂
Billy Preston likewise
I laugh when it happens cause how can it go red if our oysters is free , even older people like my mum tapped once & it went red , then tapped again it was green
@@saskiaparker706 It it won't let you go on the bus with a minus balance on your card even if it's a free student oyster
Ashley Horsman yes it will you dont need any money at all to use a zip card
@@anele4672 negative balance I said not zero balance. I have travelled the London system for 8 years as a student. I know how it works
Well I have a zip oyster (free travel for children and students) and it still gets rejected sometimes. The readers can be faulty and about 10% of the time usually are.
Abubakr Bhyat yep
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It's because your balance is on minius, it has to at least zero for your zip card to work
A student card u can only use for getting to school and back, there's certain hours it works like on a weekend it won't work at all
Spongebob With no vids with 1000 subs it does work on the weekend actually
Every time you beeped the oyster my guineapigs started purring 😂😂
Just a heads up, computers can always go wrong because it’s technology. I’ve had so many times when money would be on my ouster but there’s been a fault with the machine. Even confirmed by tfl.
In my opinion, the driver shouldn't have to deal wth non paying customers. It's stressful enough having to drive a bus in London, without adding the stress of having to deal with problem passengers. I've just come back from a trip to Rome and the drivers are completely segregated from the passengers, although you can talk to them if you need to. The card payment readers are at the front and rear doors, so the passengers don't even pass by the driver. Whether they tap in or not should be the inspectors' problem...Bus Drivers are not doormen, security guards or inspectors and should be left to drive without the hassle! :-)
Bus-Man-Sean ...I agree Sean....I'd like to visit other countries in the future and film/document what it's like for bus drivers there....so that the U.K can learn from them! 👍😀👌
Bus-Man-Sean Unless they put people on the bus like the one on routmasters.
but in rome very few people pay for the bus they just walk on for example when i was there i paid for my ticket from the travel shop for a month in advance however when i spoke to the locals they told me i had wasted my money because nobody checks the tickets
Sounds like a waste of taxpayer's money to me to employ another person to just do this job - maybe we could use some kind of technology instead
+Chris Hero ha ha gotta love the Italians
But sometimes it aint always right, like once my oyster always worked and like when i put it on it beeped and turned red i tried again and it turned green
Kae You probably tapped it too quickly. That’s what happened to me a while back.
It's a computer. Computers fail. It's that simple! I've been told by the system that there isn't enough money on my Oyster, when I know that there is on more than one occasion. Also been told that the card is no longer valid, then tapped it again and it was accepted. The Oyster card reader is NOT always right.
The oyster card is technology and sadly there are faults. I have had time where the oyster card has just stopped working.
Keep the receipt...and that's proof that you've got credit on your oyster!
DoubleDeckerAnton What if you have a child oyster?
saaj90 my daughters oyster stopped working, wouldn't beep, was in her school uniform coming back from the library and the bus driver wouldn't let her on.
I could understand if she wasnt wearing uniform because it can be hard telling a teenagers age.
On the up side though, I rang up tfl because I forgot the email details of the web account to use to order another one, spoke to a gentleman, he's sending out a new one free of charge instead of having to pay the administration fee.
No need to keep the receipt because the computer is never wrong.
DoubleDeckerAnton Sometimes they don't print
I had faulty on oyster.. I used in in tube but after that I got into bus it didn't work.. but we went beck to the tube station and it said I had £ 10.55..
ihminen :D exact same problem here mate, faulty in the bus, good to go on the tube with £15.20 in it
Well if you jump the gates at one of the terminals on a train or tube it won't let you use the bus
EpilepticRabbit thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind next time I jump a gate ;-)
ihminen :D onko suomessaki oysteri card systeemii
invader eipä taida olla
am literally in the bus with him right now 😊😂
William George should’ve gone up to him and said “The computer is never wrong” as you alighted.
Computers are never wrong? What horse shit 😅
ikr this guy doesnt know shit about how computers work
The computer is NEVER wrong.
Computers get it right, but they're often programmed incorrectly and so display what we see as the wrong result but what's correct according to the program.
Harrison Owen umm no that's not the only way
They do go wrong but it isnt the computer, its the developer
One thing I'll like to add... Is when bus drivers take the pi*ss and drive off without stopping at an bus stop when Clearly a arm has been waved high up in the air as a 'Sign' to Stop so passangers can board the bus. Now a days drivers are so Blind and don't see signals, its like we have to shoot a air gun in the air just to get the drivers attention to Stop. This happened to me several times and because of that reason I was late for work. That's just taking the mick honestly, just Do your Jobs Properly and we'll be a Satisfied well behaived customer, pffhh
Syed Ahmed Funnily enough this is the first video I saw of his in my recommended, so stop trying to be a smartass. You said “just do your jobs properly” on HIS video. So clearly you’re directing anger towards him.
Syed Ahmed stfu
E M I love you too hun
Syed Ahmed not once in your rant is the word some, leading us to believe you mean all
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As a Oyster ZIP car user, sometimes the machines do reject cards even though I have money on it, and busses are free anyway. After a few re-taps it usually works
Timothy Meyer press it flat and hold
What do you think I've been doing? But seriously these machines do sometimes flash red for no reason. Im just pointing out that if it flashes red, try again just to check if the machines malfunctioning
Timothy Meyer nope. Your cards faulty
Well... it works after a few tries so it still works, mostly. I just thought the readers on busses are buggy, since it never happens on tubes or trains.
If your card is rejected on a station ticket barrier it shows a reject number. These are called POD codes, POD standing for Passenger Orientated Display. Common ones are 94 (please try again / bad read), 36 (not enough money), 35 (season ticket but you've travelled outside of the ticket zones giving you a negative balance). Not sure if the buses show a number but it'll be the same principle. There are loads of POD codes covering paper tickets, contactless, oyster and ITSO (national rail) cards
Me: Oh wait, I just remember i go through the back doordouble-decker Antron: do you know I have cameras on my buses?
I have no idea why im watching this but the audio from 2:00 onwards is spot on.
In Australia we have opal cards one for adults, one for old people , one for youth and one for school.
In Sydney the readers seem to just fail 1 in 10 times for no apparent reason. Card doesn't even have to be in a wallet for that to happen.
Wheezle211 ...it's hard to understand computers! They are supposed to run smoothly!
Hopefully in time they will be more intelligent!
0:56 LOL EXACTLY THEY KEEP DOING IT. And I'm like is ur brain working properly mate?
As a driver one of the biggest issue I have is those that were clearly sitting at the bus stop for a while because on approach to the bus stop you can see who is there and they are also looking at the bus and as the bus is approaching they get up, rush infront of everyone get on the bus and then stand there fumbling around in their bag looking for their oyster then holding everyone up and some of them then have this issue after they do find their oyster where it is saying not enough money and yet still they are wasting further time and holding everyone by continuously tapping their oyster.
Other issues are those who ring the bell or put out their hand last minute and those that when you stop and open the doors stay seated upstairs especially until they hear the door closing sound and alot of them still stroll downstairs to get off.. really annoying.
That's very rude. I know that feeling.
Ro W As a driver, I thought it's only me lol.
Nah man, it really is annoying. When your running early it is not so bad but when you are running late and your at the bus stop, nothing is coming and these selfish able bodied passengers are taking ages to get off the bus and by the time they do all the traffic is flowing and then no one wants to let you out and now you have to sit behind everyone. My blood really boils inside as I get it alot on the 341s or those who either ring the bell when your right ontop of the bus stop or those that sit at the bus stop playing with their phone or generally not paying attention or even standing behind the advert at the bus shelter on their phones as if bus drivers have x ray vision and your doing 15-25mph (depending on road speed limit) and expect you to suddenly stop to let them on/off. Or those that when your serving the stop they are standing there staring at you, staring at the bus no interest in getting on it would seem until you close the doors then oh all of a sudden they want to get on.
Ro W ....lol 😂...yes it happens to me a lot....there are so many different types of passenger. ...ones that are alert and clued in...and others that expect the 'red carpet treatment'.
It tests my patience!
The public have no 'awareness/public information videos' on these matters...and so thats why I do these short videos....as it's a way for me to relieve stress...lol 😂...& for me to get the message across via a funny informative video!
I believe these videos done in the right manner will finally reach the public in time (we need 100s of drivers from all different backgrounds/cultures to vlog similar videos to the mainstream public).
I see so many drivers stressed out....its my way of contributing to this ongoing problem!
Ro W ....
yes Ro W....I feel it's an issue that is not going to go away until public knowledge of 'how to flag a bus and board a bus and alight a bus' is put across for them to see what all the drivers are experiencing!
Interestingly, the system is not perfect. I usually travel with a contactless card. No problems checking in. No problems checking out. And the journey is registered in TfLs app. But when revenue controllers board the bus, or train, they can’t read my card. It’s happened several times. Fortunately, they have believed me when I say that the card has been accepted at check in and check out. Have others experienced this?
So basically this guy is a passenger and a driver on his own bus.
😂
it isn't actually always right, I had a weekly travel card on mine and it wasn't working and kept saying insufficient funds and I had to show the driver my receipt that I literally paid for a weekly travel card 5 hours ago, so yeah, it isn't always right.
Celtic Goals 2016/17 ...it's what the ticket inspectors keep telling me!
It's a system that is hard to understand!
As long as you keep the receipt that you have topped up...then that is proof to show the inspector!
Celtic Goals 2016/17 As a driver, I would say sorry the receipt cannot prove 'that' oyster card was topped up.
But at that point you'd have to have topped up at least one card and it would only be a few minutes
if your oyster card is in a negative balance your travel card is not valid.
okay to clarify.
1) oyster wasn't in a negative.
2) zone 1-6 oyster and I had already gotten a southern service to victoria that day, a tube from Victoria and another bus that day, it was literally just that bus, After that bus I also managed to get the train back from london victoria to croydon which I clearly wouldn't of been able to do if it wasn't valid or in a negative, also if in a negative I wouldn't of been able to get the previous days journeys
my point is that the reader isn't always right and it can come with errors as every single peice of technology can.....
I had to put up with this on the 55, a man on the bus 2 minutes straight just tapping away not knowing that he didn't have any money and I knew when I told him to get off.😂 🔒 💳 🔴
In Dublin we have these things called 'Leap Cards' and if the machine is broken, sometimes you are allowed on for free
I wish this system of contactless payment was adopted all over the UK. It would be a lot easier and less stressful for drivers not having to mess about with change. It would be safer meaning driver has no cash and isn’t likely to get robbed. It would be better for passengers who’ve only got notes and haven’t got loose change. Seriously it’s time all public buses went cashless. You can use contactless debit/ credit card, mobile app, or an Oyster card system. Better for everyone.
Exactly man
This is true! This happens to schoolkids as well and it can delay the journey!
Sam Rogers ...we make sure schoolkids get to and from school...!!!
It's not good to leave a child at the side of the road...especially in the cold dark of winter!
Really appreciate that Anton. As a school kid (in uniform) I used to get so worried if I couldn't find my pass, my school was really brutal about lateness and it really came down to 50/50 if I'd be let on the bus. I'm not sure what the procedure is since I've been told different things by different drivers.
well if ZIP card(Oyster cards for School children) are not working drivers just let you on or ask to see the card to prove that is you since after all kids do travel for free on buses
They travel free. If they have a pass. Seniors also travel for free, if they have a freedom pass. My grandparents are seniors, but they live in Germany. When they come for visits they can't just say that they have a pass when they don't. If you lose or your ZIP gets stolen, get a normal oyster. Free travel is a privilege, not a right. other councils like charge parents hundreds every term for their children to enjoy the same privilege.
London Buses i'm guessing youre talking about children under 6 years old because here in west midlands everyone else pays except over 65s. 16 year olds here pay £2.40 for a single fare its ridiculous.
We have the same probelm in Sydney, Australia people tap on but dont have money on the card and just stand there arguing with the bus driver delaying the bus
How would you know it’s never wrong? TFL did mess up the “please hold on, the bus is about to move”
Nothing is perfect but the system is intelligent and we havent had many problems with it! It's better than taking cash...!!!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton do u know why my 16 zip card isnt working
I get this all the time working for the National Rail. A passenger once tapped in, only once though on the gate - POD read 36 - no money. Strangely though with the same card the ticket machine stated he had a valid season ticket. But the machine 99.99% is not wrong, especially when checking their journey history then finally they submit defeat and walk off.
Saying the computer is never wrong is a very bold statement mate 😂
'the computer is never wrong.' that's why you're a bus driver
I mean Ive had so many issues with faulty oyster card or the macine not reading
...Yes it does happen...it could do with being updated to a newer model but this current machine is contracted for many more years!
Bloke I met had his Over 60 free pass.Found out that his old phone/card registered was being deducted as well,as he went through.
"The computer is never wrong"
3:11 clocks him in again even though he's on the bus lmfao
A computer can never be 100% reliable, there will be faults
In Portugal every card reader has screens that if there’s an error it will show the reason. Also bus drivers do not deal with non-paying customers at this time. In some networks there’s a message they can send from their console to the control centre to report non paying customers.
Screens that aren't read by everyone I think.
It looks like there is one also in this video after all.
It's tiny and behind the plexiglass but still visible to anyone willing to look at it it.
What if you have a 16+ oyster where you get free bus travel. There has been a few times where i have gone into negative funds and the card reader said insufficient funds even though i get free bus travel
Good question! The rules say that if you have a negative balance, you are required to pay it off before you can use _any_ further transport, regardless of whether you're usually entitled to it free of charge.
Yeah this happened to me as well, went in negative money and oyster reader went red
He’s so jokes! Love the tips he gives very eye opening
If you have an child's oyster or an u18's oyster and are in negative money it will light up red when you scan it on the bus even though it's ment to be free
i remember in school people would used to have an app that would play the green light sound to try get on for free xD
I find it funny when people scan their card, it says “not enough money” and they just walk on as if nothing happened.
Don't know if you're aware Anton but there is a way of printing a receipt that shows the last few journeys made on the oyster plus any top ups. It's under 'osyter card details' on the driver functions menu of the ETM when you press the red button.
StanButler ...yes Stan. ..I found out the day after I posted this!
All these years and I didn't know....in fact I spoke to numerous drivers ...and I got a mixed response....some knew about it...and some didn't!
DoubleDeckerAnton yep same at my garage very few drivers know about it! Which is odd as it's very handy indeed. Keep up the good work mate. Love the videos.
StanButler ...lol....it took me 5 years to find that car....a no.10 hammersmith driver showed me....it goes to show....all the drivers need constant training...!!!
I live in Sweden in a city called Gothenburg and no one gives a shit to pay on busses and trams. And students can say that they forgot their card at home and the people controlling to see if you paid just says bring it next day but adults have to get off or buy a ticket on. You can see how sometimes people run out from the vehicle when a controller enters
When I was a child I had a zip card and it never wanted to work once it got a red light then it never worked after that
I have never been to London and I don't plan on it either. I have no idea why I am watching this.
Mine would often get the red light even though it was a free travel card so these things do mess up sometimes.
I hate it that when I wait for the bus after school and when one FINALLY stops then it only opens the rear doors and lets the back passengers of. I can understand it being full but there was places for ppl to stand and a few seats that weren’t priority ones. Like if u can relate sometimes.
...yes I can understand this. Some drivers dont carry out their duties to their full potential. Also some drivers are afraid to converse with passengers!
I don't think there has ever been a computer that has worked perfectly forever, if you sat in asda on any given morning you will see riots on the self checkout, RIOTS !!!
Oyster is so cheap compared to Manchester bus price
Right!! I'm moving to london from Manc and can't believe it. In manchester they charge you like 4 quid just travelling down the road LMAO. 5.50 for a fuckin day 'saver' as well.
I acc hate when bus drivers don’t allow kids to get on the bus if their zip cards broken or they’re waiting for a new one. The amount of times I’ve had to walk two hours home because they won’t let me on when my Oyster cards been broken or lost is crazy. We don’t have to pay for bus travel, so why aren’t we allowed on?
Well looking into the system. If you top up online you need to sync your card with a top up machine or another reader which has a constant connection. Buses might not have the most up to date info saying you paid to update the card.
The contactless card is always your emergency!
Actually it can be wrong
DoubleDeckerAnton some have no money on their card and the driver still let them on
Goaheadlondonfan Rblx Proton & More .....yes at the drivers discretion...they can be given a unpaid fare report....if they are vulnerable or the driver thinks they have a reason to board the bus!
DoubleDeckerAnton my contactless bank card wouldnt let me tap in, I quickly loaded up my internet banking to show my account was in credit and that it wasn't just beeping because there was no money, the driver had to fill out a pink form.
+DoubleDeckerAnton you're giving me ideas Anton😈
Such a poor system, I’m new to England and I’m not allowed on the bus because I don’t have an Oyster card, even when I throw money at them they don’t know what to do with it.
In Liverpool we have a Walrus card system (conveniently similar names) and a had a Solo pass loaded onto it which allowed me unlimited bus travel for a week for £9.60 and this was before we got Ticketer machines and had Wayfarer, which was quite temprimental at times. The one time I didn't have my receipt to prove the card was valid for travel, the machine in the bus denied my card and was forced to pay for a day ticket. I then got on another bus after that one, and the card worked...
...yes Liam...these cards sometimes have their issue...!!!
It's better to have a value ticket (9.60) compared to pay as you go tickets! 😊👍
General rule of thumb is tap the reader a maximum of 2 times, as quite often a comms error occurs for the first tap and is fine afterwards. But if you still get a red light, then get out and top it up.
Sometimes it beeps red because it’s the other way because when I was younger I used to hold up the pass to the reader but it was facing backwards when my mum did it, it was green
Thank you to all bus drivers that keep london moving 🤗
That has happened to me, the computer is wrong some time, I go off that bus and waited for a next bus and it worked on that bus.
My Oyster card bleeps more than once bc I have a zip card
Ok. 2 things. 1. In wood green drivers hide the screen so you can't see it.
2. I have had it a few times topped up and gone straight to the bus, no money. It's not always right
Cobblers, computers can be wrong. I have been double charged (and no, I did not double tap) at Paddington, when I got to Chalk Farm, my oyster was empty. Lucky the history on the card indicated the issue and I got a refund.
It does reject concessionary passes outside of London apparently and the TFL know this, its said to Jsut show the driver. The drivers know there's issues with Out of London travel passes
this is a very intelligent system.... we get it.. red for stop green for go hahaha
I've topped up at a shop at the bus stop, waited for the bus, that bus it doesn't work, I wait for the next one and it does. But that means I've lost 20mins of the day and might be late. So this system doesn't always work well.
i dont mean this as a bad thing but your wallet looks like a meatball
Clayton 72 ....lol...yes it's small enough to just fit my cards...
The one issue I have with them. Is if you have run out of credit you get the one extra ride (and a receipt asking to topup) but then you should be able to tap in on another bus within 30mins (hopper fare) but you cannot it does not work...
Experience from a school kid: Sometimes I get on the bus and when the reader doesn't work I just take it out my wallet or show it to the bus driver and they'll let you in! (Or so I think in my exirience)
👏🏻when👏🏻it👏🏻lit👏🏻green👏🏻the👏🏻card👏🏻works👏🏻
Driver plzzzzzz let me on 😭😭😭😭😭
That Yorkshire Bus Driver ...lol 😂🤣
This bloke is strangely addictive ., Hahaha
I don't know about Oyster but the computer is sometimes wrong on Lothian Busses in Edinburgh. I've actually had it happen where I've topped up IN the travel office, not a corner shop, and the money hasn't gone on. When this happened I wasn't allowed on the bus and I had to walk back down to the travelshop to get them to issue me a bus ticket for the day.
It has happened more than just that once that the money hasn't gone on to the card in the correct time. I've also had it happen where the card just breaks and the money is on it but somehow won't work.
I've always used those and always will travelling is days out and I like the bleap bleap once or twice
1:01 is where the best part begins.
It annoys me when passengers hold up the buses for ages trying this tactic because the screen says how much money is on the card... (also if you have tapped in once and try to tap again the screen says that you have already tapped in for this journey)
Opal readers in Australia have displays showing the current balance
"Computer is never wrong" hahaha. It is if its programmed by me.
Question : children's oyster cards don't need to have money on them unless your going on a train but why do ticket inspecters/bus drivers get angry when they don't have their oyster cards? What's the difference if you don't have an oyster card and there's no money on it...
Needed as proof of age probably.
1:16: I topped up this morning i put £5 on! Driver! i topped up honest! Believe me!!
“ “THE COMPUTER IS NEVER WRONG” “
sometimes I use contactless, Whenever I had money on the card it simply *did not work*. Maybe Tfl blocked it or something but it wound up being a total inconvenience to me
Jexolour ....yes...there are issues that confuse me at times!
I'm not sure why this happens.
The system needs to be smarter!
I'll be getting an oyster card because I will be using London alot more than I used to
ACTUALLY there’s been mistakes when I’ve had a free oyster so the computer isn’t always correct
So that’s why my bus is always late
We have a similar system on our PT called myki here in Melbourne Sometimes the card won’t tap off at the end of a journey so when your tapping on for you next journey your actually tapping off also they have a 2 hour limit on it so if I want to go from one end of the network to the other I have to stop in the middle. Tap off and leave the station. Reenter the station and tap back on to continue the journey
This video was fun to watch obviously.
You do a good job bus drivers - thank you. What can happen also is you can be delayed on the tube due to cancellations, strikes, red signals and breakdowns and this results in your journey time exceeding 1hour. When you touch out you get charged £8.90 instead of £1.70. That can leave the balance on your oyster card short. Like a law abiding fool if you want to get your money back you have to go home and ring customer services. The last time I rang them it was waiting 55mins for a representative. I sometimes look at people who avoid their fares and then think of me. Who is the mug?
I live in Australia and I watch this for entertainment
I've had one on where the machine didn't work at all for anyone on the 23...
The driver just stuck a newspaper in front of it lol
Matt's Transport Videos ....yes that's when the reader is faulty!
If card reader really fails, then the driver should note the card numbers on the paper and notify the operator.
I stick my hi vis around it
Mine did the double beep pressed it a second time it worked
Do all bus drivers know the difference between a bus stop and a request stop. Because there have been times when buses have not stopped when I'm running up to a bus stop not a request stop with my hand out
aww thank you for telling me, this was very helpful and if i ever get a chance to go to London, i will remember that
Hello Anton, hope you have a good day Anton
Once my zip would not be approved and i was told it had no money, and i would have to show them it.
I've had this happened a couple of times with my disabled freedom pass and the pass hadn't expired at the time but luckily the drivers that I had allowed me on weather I tapped on or not as the pass has always around my neck in a case for the driver to see
Yes Anton the oyster & contactless work really well,unless your a visitor travelling with a child as I found out to my expense in May this year.
608dave1 ..yes Dave...it's awkward at first when your a visitor to london...before july 2014....good old fashioned cash guaranteed you boarding without a problem...but
it does cause a few issues now....but it's nice not to carry a bag of cash with you!
ordered an oyster online for my son,loaded with £20,then asked at gatwick for it to be registered as a child,as per website,sorry it cant be done as the cards registered to an adult account,mine.So youll need to buy another card & get a refund on the other.which has to be processed on line as theres more than 10 on it.very confusing anton but got sorted in the end
I've found that if you can calmly tell the driver what your intentions are they'll kindly help you. I had just gotten a contactless card and didn't know I had to use my pin in a transaction first for it to work on the bus. I'm sure that when the machine bleeped red that the driver knew what was going on. He explained that this stuff happens a lot, and have me a slip to pay online in a few days.