I have purchased three different types of testing equipment and your methods are way easier! I'm happy I found your channel! Thank you so much. Avocado oil is very clear.
Yes it’s true I was purchased ruby from eBay with certificate from India at the long time of waiting I just find out it is fake ruby by using this one method beside of using loupe. Thank you for sharing this method
Oh yes, when I was looking for some typical fake Stones for my Emerald Tutorial in the online markets, I was realizing how many of the fakes are offered with a "certificate". That's very brazenly.
India and China are the primary countries where a significant amount of synthetics/fakes come from. Be careful with jewelry coming from these countries.
Very nice thank you! I myself am less concerned with differentiating natural versus lab gems (both being real, though with different price points) as I am with ruling out straight on fakes or similar stones which are intentionally or mistakenly classified. For example a blue spinel versus a blue sapphire, or a ruby versus tourmaline or garnet. Are you able to share more direct observational tests on that kind of task. Such as how to observe/measure/compare density or crystal structure?
Thank you. At the moment, i dont have enough Materials to compare. I hope that i can share later some more comparisons with different Materials, and some more Informations👍
Thanks for watching. You can use every clear and colorless oil for the test. Don't forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work with them a little uncomfortable. For the best result you can select an oil with a RI close to the Material RI you plan to test. Refractive Index of Oils can be found online.
In this case it was Camelia oil simply because i have had it available in my houshold. You can use every clear and colorless oil for this test e.g. foodoils. For the best results use an oil which RI is closest to the Material you plan to test. Refractive Index for Oils can be found online. Don't forget some oils smells strong which makes the work with it a little uncomfortable.
My question is why do scratch test instructions say that if you can scratch it, it’s not a ruby, PROBABLY. It always says probably. If it’s a ruby, why would it sometimes scratch?
Gems can be identified by typical inclusions etc. It becomes more complicated to prove a possible treatment of a stone, and much more complicated to determining the geographical place where they were found. It is only possible with a lot of experience and appropriate expensive equipment and tests. In any case it is helpful to take a look at the microscopic inclusions Gallery at Lotus Gemology. In the case of tourmaline, for example, testing its piezoelectric properties is helpful. You can find a video about these properties and how to test here: ua-cam.com/video/TM92lz8FonQ/v-deo.html
Im so confused. I read that synthetic lab rubies are still corundum and are considered actual rubies with the same level of hardness and chemical structure as a natural stone. Is this true?
Is using a saline solution a way to determine red amber from a raw ruby. A ruby would sink due to density? I have what I've always thought is natural red amber but it flouresces red under UV.
Yes, that's correct. It can be distinguished between them due to a much higher density of Rubies. Another test uses a glowing needle, but I can only recommend this test as an exception as it would damages the potential amber.
Hey Buddy it is not an Animal Oil. I used Camelia Oil (Plant Oil) for this test, just because i have had it available in my houshold (to protect equipment like Kitchenknifes for rust) You can use every clean and colorless Oil for this test e.g. Foodoils. Don´t forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work a little uncomfortable. The RI of different Oils can be found online. For the best results, try to use an Oil with a RI close to the Materials RI you wanna test. But you can use every clear and colorless oil.
In this case i used Camelia oil, but you can use every clear and colorless Oil e.g. Foodoils. The different light refractive indices of oils can be found online. The closer the RI of the oil is to that of the stone to be examined, the easier it is to look into the stone. Thanks for watching
Thanks for watching. Yes, you can carry out the test with almost any oil. It is important that it is clear and colorless. Please note that some oils have a strong smell, which can make working with them a bit unpleasant.
Yes, you are right, for a beginner this is really a lot or too much input. I have given the individual video parts a time stamp in the video description, especially for the many syntheses, so you can quickly skip to the part that you need or want to watch again. Since the video already contains a lot of information, I decided not to go into detail about the inclusions in rubies and refer to the Inclusion Gallery. Thank you for your feedback and the kind words🙂
When they are set in rings is there any type of lighting or otherwise that would help me to determine better as with that situation I can’t see through them to look at the variations as well
When a stone is set in jewelry, this test becomes more difficult. It may be impossible to see through a stone due to different settings. Sometimes it can be helpful to put a white piece of plastic behind the stone. Light reflects from the top of the white plastic through the stone or it diffuses light from the bottom, dependig on what type of light you are use.
In this case it was Camelia Oil just because i have had it available in my Household. You can use every clear and colorless oil for this test. Dont forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work with it a little uncomfortable.
Yeah it is very hard to detect a beryllium treated Ruby or Saphhire. I have seen some examples in Immersionfluid, which had orange to piniksh shadows. Very hard visible. I think the best way to look for such slightly shadows is to use extreme good lights and a good microscope in combination with Immersionfluid.
@@GermanGemcutter - thank you for taking your time to reply. Yea, I’d not heard of Beryllium treatment until a couple of years ago when I read about it in an article from the G.I.A. Even they said it was difficult to detect. 😀👍
I didn't tell him what music to use. I just said again what others were saying. Who are you to tell me what to watch? I like his videos and that's what I told him in my comment before this one.
A detailed explanation is missing that you give a judgment on each stone. You say this is fake and then show the evidence, and this is normal, then show the evidence with its natural qualities. The explanation is long and looks like the natural and looks like the fake, so what is it? ،
Thanks for your Feedback👍 for many viewers, that was to much Information at once. The Test is good for Amateurs, Professionells are often better equipment. I didn't want to go into more Details as it would get much more complicated. Thanks again for your helpful Feedback👍
If you paid too much, it's probably a real one and you got ripped off! You should buy a lab grown for 20$ that will match a 10 carat real ruby. Lab grown ruby are REAL ruby. Ignorant people buy real ruby because they are misinformed.
Thank you for clarifying this because I got confused about fake vs. natural after watching this. I watched a video of a jeweler saying exactly what you mentioned regarding lab grown rubies being rubies in hardness and chemical composition, only that they are made in a lab.
Best Ruby tutorial
I have purchased three different types of testing equipment and your methods are way easier! I'm happy I found your channel! Thank you so much. Avocado oil is very clear.
Thank you for watching, your Feedback and the recommendation.
Yes it’s true I was purchased ruby from eBay with certificate from India at the long time of waiting I just find out it is fake ruby by using this one method beside of using loupe. Thank you for sharing this method
Oh yes, when I was looking for some typical fake Stones for my Emerald Tutorial in the online markets, I was realizing how many of the fakes are offered with a "certificate". That's very brazenly.
India and China are the primary countries where a significant amount of synthetics/fakes come from. Be careful with jewelry coming from these countries.
Thank you for this. I would like to suggest you do a video where you test for real or fake gems that are set in rings, pendants etc. Thankyou.
Thanks for watching and your inspiration
I am checking all my gems now after your video of Emeralds lol thank you
Clara. -- Thank you for your thorough presentation.
With pleasure, Thank you for your kind Feedback
Great information! Thanks for putting this out there. I've never used the oil method, but I'm going to try it. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind Feedback
is it true flux sapphires have straight color zoning or is it curved ?
Very nice thank you! I myself am less concerned with differentiating natural versus lab gems (both being real, though with different price points) as I am with ruling out straight on fakes or similar stones which are intentionally or mistakenly classified. For example a blue spinel versus a blue sapphire, or a ruby versus tourmaline or garnet. Are you able to share more direct observational tests on that kind of task. Such as how to observe/measure/compare density or crystal structure?
Thank you. At the moment, i dont have enough Materials to compare. I hope that i can share later some more comparisons with different Materials, and some more Informations👍
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Weldone ur knwldge about gems is usefull all of us we learnd more of much by urchanel thanks alot
With pleasure, i am happy if the Videos are helpful. Thank you very much my Friend👍
Great video, thank you for sharing with us. Can I use glycerin oil?
Thanks for watching. You can use every clear and colorless oil for the test. Don't forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work with them a little uncomfortable. For the best result you can select an oil with a RI close to the Material RI you plan to test. Refractive Index of Oils can be found online.
What type of oil did you use? And what you mix it with?
In this case it was Camelia oil simply because i have had it available in my houshold. You can use every clear and colorless oil for this test e.g. foodoils. For the best results use an oil which RI is closest to the Material you plan to test. Refractive Index for Oils can be found online. Don't forget some oils smells strong which makes the work with it a little uncomfortable.
My question is why do scratch test instructions say that if you can scratch it, it’s not a ruby, PROBABLY. It always says probably. If it’s a ruby, why would it sometimes scratch?
Sir how to recognise natural turmilian , spinal and natural Burma ruby please explain
Gems can be identified by typical inclusions etc. It becomes more complicated to prove a possible treatment of a stone, and much more complicated to determining the geographical place where they were found. It is only possible with a lot of experience and appropriate expensive equipment and tests. In any case it is helpful to take a look at the microscopic inclusions Gallery at Lotus Gemology. In the case of tourmaline, for example, testing its piezoelectric properties is helpful. You can find a video about these properties and how to test here: ua-cam.com/video/TM92lz8FonQ/v-deo.html
Im so confused. I read that synthetic lab rubies are still corundum and are considered actual rubies with the same level of hardness and chemical structure as a natural stone. Is this true?
Synthetic/lab rubies have the same chemical composition and hardness as real rubies. So yes, they are still rubies, but of no great value.
@@TheRattlebit thank you for the explanation 🙏
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Is using a saline solution a way to determine red amber from a raw ruby. A ruby would sink due to density? I have what I've always thought is natural red amber but it flouresces red under UV.
Yes, that's correct. It can be distinguished between them due to a much higher density of Rubies. Another test uses a glowing needle, but I can only recommend this test as an exception as it would damages the potential amber.
Hi. In Europe chameleon oil is really hard to find. I've asked everywhere. Can I use oil of a different animal? Will it be the same? Thanks!
Hey Buddy it is not an Animal Oil. I used Camelia Oil (Plant Oil) for this test, just because i have had it available in my houshold (to protect equipment like Kitchenknifes for rust) You can use every clean and colorless Oil for this test e.g. Foodoils. Don´t forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work a little uncomfortable. The RI of different Oils can be found online. For the best results, try to use an Oil with a RI close to the Materials RI you wanna test. But you can use every clear and colorless oil.
@@GermanGemcutter thank you so much. Love your videos, going through them one at a time :-)
@@skankhunt9078 Thanks Buddy apprecciate it.
This was really interesting, but I have to agree with Cliffwalker rockhounding. 👇😁
Thank you very much for your feedback👍 In the next episode about sapphires, I'll keep it easier, I promise
@@GermanGemcutter I trust you. 👍
@@lindalewis5066 🙂👍
Thank you so much brother from philippines
I have tiny bubbles inclusions in one of the rubies i purchased is it real or fake?
Sir can i email you some pictures of the ruby i have if you can tell
Unfortunately, bubbles are often found in glass
Bubbles means fake unless it's an enhydro inclusion (water) inside a crystal.
awesome, so informative
Thank you
Are synthetic stones and laboratory produced stones the same thing?
Yes
Thank you my friend
With pleasure👍
Thank you ! and best wishes
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Thank you
Great video Thank you 😊
Thank you for watching and your comment
hi please testing gemstones for oil name?
In this case i used Camelia oil, but you can use every clear and colorless Oil e.g. Foodoils. The different light refractive indices of oils can be found online. The closer the RI of the oil is to that of the stone to be examined, the easier it is to look into the stone. Thanks for watching
Thankyou for sharing...👍🤝
With pleasure, Thanks for watching👍
Beautiful glass
Can i take babyoil?
Thanks for watching. Yes, you can carry out the test with almost any oil. It is important that it is clear and colorless. Please note that some oils have a strong smell, which can make working with them a bit unpleasant.
would you help me find a place to sell my rubies for any price ?
Terrific information. Maybe too much for one video, it is hard for us beginners to absorb so much at one time. Very high quality video as usual.
Yes, you are right, for a beginner this is really a lot or too much input. I have given the individual video parts a time stamp in the video description, especially for the many syntheses, so you can quickly skip to the part that you need or want to watch again.
Since the video already contains a lot of information, I decided not to go into detail about the inclusions in rubies and refer to the Inclusion Gallery. Thank you for your feedback and the kind words🙂
I think it was a great video for beginners
When they are set in rings is there any type of lighting or otherwise that would help me to determine better as with that situation I can’t see through them to look at the variations as well
When a stone is set in jewelry, this test becomes more difficult. It may be impossible to see through a stone due to different settings.
Sometimes it can be helpful to put a white piece of plastic behind the stone. Light reflects from the top of the white plastic through the stone or it diffuses light from the bottom, dependig on what type of light you are use.
@@GermanGemcutter Danke
@@LadyFourteen Sehr gerne👍
UV light will cause the real ones to glow.
Which type of oil is it
In this case it was Camelia Oil just because i have had it available in my Household. You can use every clear and colorless oil for this test. Dont forgett some oils smells strong which makes the work with it a little uncomfortable.
Where do you get the oil?
I got the oil from a bonsai shop many years ago. But you can use every clear and colorless oil for this Test.
Ebay is really bad for fake gems.
It’s the Beryllium treated Rubies that totally confused me.
Yeah it is very hard to detect a beryllium treated Ruby or Saphhire. I have seen some examples in Immersionfluid, which had orange to piniksh shadows. Very hard visible. I think the best way to look for such slightly shadows is to use extreme good lights and a good microscope in combination with Immersionfluid.
@@GermanGemcutter - thank you for taking your time to reply. Yea, I’d not heard of Beryllium treatment until a couple of years ago when I read about it in an article from the G.I.A. Even they said it was difficult to detect. 😀👍
not all ruby glow under uv light. its not a 100% test
Maybe you can use different music? I tried binge watching your videos and it's that music that made me have to stop. Thanks!
Thank you for the Feedback.
Maybe just don't watch, who are you to tell someone what background music to use???
I didn't tell him what music to use. I just said again what others were saying. Who are you to tell me what to watch? I like his videos and that's what I told him in my comment before this one.
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Fine Thank you, i have to move to a new Appartement, new content is coming soon👍
A detailed explanation is missing that you give a judgment on each stone. You say this is fake and then show the evidence, and this is normal, then show the evidence with its natural qualities. The explanation is long and looks like the natural and looks like the fake, so what is it?
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Thanks for your Feedback👍 for many viewers, that was to much Information at once. The Test is good for Amateurs, Professionells are often better equipment. I didn't want to go into more Details as it would get much more complicated. Thanks again for your helpful Feedback👍
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Please turn off that music. Can't hear what you're saying.
Thanks for your Feedback👍
Cannot understand ur xplanation sir
I sell my ruby gem sir
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If you paid too much, it's probably a real one and you got ripped off!
You should buy a lab grown for 20$ that will match a 10 carat real ruby.
Lab grown ruby are REAL ruby.
Ignorant people buy real ruby because they are misinformed.
Thank you for clarifying this because I got confused about fake vs. natural after watching this. I watched a video of a jeweler saying exactly what you mentioned regarding lab grown rubies being rubies in hardness and chemical composition, only that they are made in a lab.