The Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2020
- In this video, we take a look at the legendary Daoist scholars who fled society to chill with friends, instruments and alcohol.Link to my Patreon: / letstalkreligion
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These Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove often get left out of English description and discussion of daoism, which is a shame considering they wrote great poetry on various subjects (not all identified as daoist it should be pointed out). There's a few other "daoist groups" you may want to look at such as the Eight Immortals (c. 700s) and Seven Masters of Quanzhen (c. 1100s). Eva Wong's written about both of them. Still, I would LOVE to read an English translation from the Bamboo Grove sages.
Ruan Ji was a very interesting figure and definitely had a lot of great stories to tell. For example, he often went out with a horse and rode to random directions until bumped into a dead end and literally came down to start crying. Or he once rushed into the funeral of a girl he did not even know before and started crying for her. I really like his personality, especially knowing this all happened in an age when he just couldn't express his feelings directly to avoid political persecution, I find him extremely relatable.
Thank you Filip for this beautiful video. And yes the stories of the Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove are indeed very resonant and relevant in every age. Reminiscent of mystics like Francis of Assis and his Little Brothers, only more relatable, and with a more holistic and human appreciation of the pleasures of life. I also love the affirmation of creativity in their stories - the music and the poetry. You tell the story beautifully. Thank you. Health and Peace, Paul
I've tried the reclusive life. Lived in various monasteries. In this day and age it can get a little boring - as much of a curse technology is, it can also be fun. These days I live in a big city but strike a balance by going into nature occasionally with my family and friends.
Moderation is the key to fulfilment, I have found. Too much natureboy or cityboy and I get out of whack. Good company is the most important thing too, nice friends and family. And if you can get away to nature together - a day or week at the beach, a waterfall, a forest - then all the better. :)
You have a boomer view of religion where you see it as an addition to your inflated sense of ego rather than as a painful way to demolish it. The fact that you feel bored in places of liberation is proof that you're still stuck. I hope you realize something in your next life, because with your age, I doubt you can figure out much.
You ever done DMT?
@@Sentronox Yes. Smoked it and drank ayahuasca.
@@violenceisfun boo get off the stage
Just beautifully done.
Thanks!
Lmao stayed drunk for 60 days to get out of marriage.... 100%sound wisdom and logic
another great video about Taoism! thank you!
I had no idea camping had such deep roots.
It might be cool to call your discord server "The Bamboo Grove"
Not a bad idea!
awesome video bro, props to you
I love ur channel and work which, for me, has been a Bamboo Grove of my own since I started following a year or two ago
very nice video! It would be so nice to escape school and live like these chill dudes. I totally feel that sentiment at the end of the video.
I know this is probably like a broad subject but could you make a video on the different vedanta philosophies and how they interact with other aspects of Hinduism?
You can make a video about the influence of music on Taoism
I will get there!
@@LetsTalkReligion are we there yet
Wonderful video
I am near to retirement, i intend to spend the time in my backyard garden and explore the Universe within and the Cosmos without. this will be my own personal Bamboo Grove
Can you do a video about Tengrism?
I'll look into it!
Great video man! Not everyday I see another a swedish person well versed in religion :)
We do exist!
Ska kolla in din kanal!
Great. I needed to know what some crackpot is thinking!! 🤡
me: "this guys sound like i wanna chill with them"
4 minutes in the vid: "i would totally liked to hang out with this people"
me: me too dude
thanks god you are alive dude u saved my exposé 😂😂😂
There are a bunch of amazing renditions of that song attributed to Ruan Ji on UA-cam.
清談 or pure conversation took many forms. It can take the form of debates between two individuals, with many guests and a judge to see who wins the debate. it can take the form of debate from just one person, presenting key arguments from two different schools. Some were similar to the Socrates dialogue, but sadly we only know the summary and not the actual dialogue.
the pure conversation usually focused on key themes from the I ching, Lao zhi and zhuang zhi. What is most fascinating is that eventually Buddhist monks were invited and they incorporated the same Taoist concepts of wu 無 to explain buddhist philosophy like Prajñā and no self. I.e Buddhists managed to integrate their Buddhist philosophy into taoist philosophy.
Confuceanism was once like this and there's still much debate in modern Confuceanism today whether they should serve the ruler or the people. You should read the novel called 儒林外史
if you ever end up starting a mystic order in the woods during a yt break, lowkey would travel to the old world to find and you preaching mysticism in a grove.
Also I´ve always been interested in the antilegalist and pure conversation ends of Daoism, this was really cool to see covered comprehensively, thanks man.
👍 good video
Qingtan: it's pronunciation and meaning both are exactly same as "Chintan" in sanskrit/ hindi.
We should do something like that today
Ha!
I hope you find your Bamboo Grove!
😄
I would love to hang out with these guys
you know the wise trope: print the legend 👍🏽
But is not making the videos fun? Man I love your show, watching it is the best way to escape from the reality from the pandemic.
It is a lot of fun! Especially when you seem to enjoy it so much!
The aspects of Thoth, which is repeated throughout history and throughout many cultures. The parallels of the One, the Seven, the 12, and the All. Shiva, for instance. The idea is that you have to live many, many incarnations in order to gain enough knowledge and wisdom to transcend this reality, and achieve a true oneness with each other, with the all, and with the one. Coming into harmonic resonance with the "light" of creation through knowledge, interaction, understanding and, eventually, wisdom. Hermetic principles. Thoth was Hermes Trismegistus, after all. Thoth was The One Original Thought incarnate, and he gave us the keys to creation, the puzzle pieces of which are scattered like the four winds, and must be assembled. As does the human soul. As above, so below. And just as we had to forget our true nature during these many incarnation, so did Thoth. He had to forget his divine nature, and incarnate many, many times, and with varying degrees of consciousness, in order to make his way back to himself, as do we all. As below, so above. Thoth first appears as Thoth in Atlantean lore. He has already separated himself from his god self, as is evident when reading the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. And then you have his many not-so-veiled identities, in no particular order: Thoth, Tut, Utu, Thut, Tuthmosis, Moses, David, Yeshua, Messiah, Moshiach. But then we also have: Osiris, Isis and Sirius (Sirius B to be precise -- Dogon). Rah, Torah, The Rah Materials, and The Law of One. Why is all this in English? Thoth incarnate is source consciousness, and knows how navigate time lines. But not as "God," but as an incarnation of "God," who still has access to the higher densities and navigates spacetime and the Akashic Record -- which is really just a density where information is stored. Infinite energy, infinite storage. Of course, this is only possible in a shared projection. Tesla said that the universe consists of energy, frequency and vibration. A hologram. This is the only way to facilitate chakras, kundalini, Merkaba, Chi, or Prana, the eternal "soul," reincarnation, and Gilgul Neshamot, not to be confused with Gilgamesh, who was searching for immortality while struggling with his alter ego, Enkidu (the duality of Enki and Enlil coming full circle), to eventually become one with himself. Those Sumerians with their metaphor. The only way to facilitate this paradigm of learning is to project it holographically, along with the necessary "hardware," if you will for us to perceive it through the senses that we perceive that we possess. The architecture must also facilitate transmitting and receiving human consciousness in many densities simultaneously, among each other and with source. It can only be done as a projection. The remainder is Fibonacci mathematics, which lies at the very heart of creation. 144, for instance, is significant because its square root, 12, is the same as 144's position in the sequence: 12. There are 144,000 days in a Bactun. 144,000 in the 12 tribes of Israel, the 144,000 lightworkers of today. The entities that will serve as key nodal points for distributing source consciousness (Christ consciousness, if you will) in the following array: 1 x 12 x 12 x 1,000 = 144,000 x 55555 = 8 billion souls, roughly the population of Earth. Welcome to the new world, and, great job in all that you've done.
In santana we have seven sages as well known as saptarishi
since you are doing Daoism would you do anything on the three blue corpses
Camping remains fun to this day!
I would love to grow a oak grove
I could use a bamboo grove right about now. 🎍🏞️🍶🎻
dream blunt rotation
The white lotus. Rebellion is interesting and is a doa religion and would a fascinating video
sorry for writing off-topic, but there's no other way to get in touch: I would appreciate very much a series about 'apocalypticisms' (all sorts of beliefs in violent battle and/or destruction and/or down-fall as a necessary 'passage') in religions: (still cyclical:) egyptian religion (voyage through the underworld), popul vuh, (eschatological:) hinduism (incl. mahabharata), germanic religion, ekpyrosis: zoroastrism, gnosis, manichaeism (?); christianity, islam, om shinrikyo, nazi-ideology... what's the common 'drive' there? what's the effects on real behaviour?
Who are the other 5 that will join us?
What is the song in this video?
Thanks for the video. 7 sages are Daoism Brethren of Purity.
I like that comparison!
I wish the Sages were still around.
Hey, could you make a video about suhrawardi ( the writer of hikmat al-ishraq) also mulla sadra would make an amazing video, thank you :D
Working on it!
Let's Talk Religion amazing !!
I hope I would have been welcomed to their camp fire.
My kind of guys.
Boss.
Can you make a video on Ahmedi Islam? It's a very HOT issue in Pakistan
That is a subject I want to get to eventually
Please keep these kind of videos coming. your audience will find you. This is much better than Religion for Breakfast
No need to diss my boy Andrew, but I appreciate it a lot! Thank you! :)
Based dudes doing based stuff
Seven Sages > Seven Samurai 😊
3:38 Did you say "Confucian Legalism" ?? Because never have I heard a greater oxymoron. Confucianism does impose a strict framework of tradition, family, and governance. But the fact that it places such heavy emphasis upon the former two of those is enough to refute any relationship to Legalism, which is more or less a progressive school of Fascism by another name. Qin Shi Huangdi would absolutely not have called himself a Confucian, as evidenced by his well-documented habit of burying them alive.
They might have viewed themselves as different, but they are basically machoistic power hungry obnoxious thoughts that worship power. One was just more nihilistic/pragmatic, the other more ritualistic/honourific.
sorry man, but "irregardless" is a overcorrection (or a similar concept)
when you say 'regarding' you are correlating description\discourse to its subject matter\source
when you say 'regardless of' you are affirming that a discourse or conclusion is independent in relation of a source\condition (i.e. that condition can't\shouldn't chance your conclusion)
"irregardless" is the negation of 'regardless' which is the negation of 'regarding', thus "irregardless" either mean 'regarding' or have a deep abstract meaning hat only the ones that use it can explain.
Can you make a video talking about the Islamic schools of jurisprudence and one about the Islamic schools of theology/credo’s?
If we do, it will benefit us all in 2020
竹林七賢
竹林=BAMBOO GROVE
七賢=SEVEN SAGES
Great video, but oh my, these pronunciations...
What do you mean, I'm not pronouncing these Chinese words flawlessly? I am shocked!
@@LetsTalkReligion there's no need for sarcasm. I'm not Chinese, but these aren't difficult words. You just have to read the actual letters. For example L doesn't read as J, yet you read Ling as Jing.
@@mikearrani3299 Sorry if I came off as smug, I was just keeping the conversation light.
The "Ling" as "Jing" thing was a careless error on my part and has bothered me ever since I realized it was there (after publishing the video). Stuff like this keeps me up at night
@@LetsTalkReligion oh, okay, I did think you were mocking me. Thanks for clearing up that you weren't.
They sound like the predecessors of biohackers trying to manipulate their states to produce poetry, etc.
You spell the D in Hanyu Pinyin (way to spell Chinese Character) as T. So, you should read it as Taoism, not Daoism. And Taoist, not Daoist. Just like Tea, not Dea.
It’s a bit more subtler than this. Technically speaking, the Mandarin D is more like an unaspirated T in English (eg as in sTop, not in Top), and there’s no real voiced D in Mandarin.
@@spleehk21 , when the Hanyu Pinyin ‘T’ is displayed, it is spelled ‘Th’, like ‘Thank you’.
@@shadowcapital It really depends on the convention you use.
In Pinyin the aspirated T is just T, in older Wade-Giles it's “t' ” (eg "T'ao" in older spelling"). In IPA it's T with a small h at the top right corner I think.
It's like talking about lengths in feet vs metres. There's no absolute right or wrong, better or worse in this, really.
(I'm a bit bugged by how the OP mispronounced every single "x", but again every language has some unusual sounds - cf the “th” in English)
@@spleehk21 , the truth is not as complex as you describe. If you spell D as T, that is enough. It will improve your Chinese speaking significantly. But spelling D as D or B as B is not right. B should be spelled P. And P is spelled Ph like Philipine.
@@spleehk21 no the mandarin d is voiced but unaspirated which is close enough to the English d. 道 is only spelled tao because it was written about by sinologists using wade giles romanization, but that is out of fashion now. Nonetheless, I have seen both tao and dao in scholarship (I studied classical chinese academically)
As a Perennial Philosophy-oriented Muslim I find so many similarities between Islam (particularly Sufi Islam) and Daosim
Would you plz tell uss about Islam in arab.that howw Arabs use Islam for their benifit
What do you mean?
@@LetsTalkReligion I mean that after Muhammad saw different sectors form in Islam like Sufism ,shiaism etc. And difernt people's start using these sectors against Islam for their benifits
Sorry to point this out. It is a pet peeve of mine. "Irregardless" is a redundant and useless word. "Ir-" is a negative, as is "-less." They cancel each other out. Hence "irregardless" has no real meaning.
Just beautifully done.