China Dominates World Shipbuilding in 2024 | Market Share Increased To 58.1% of the World's Ships

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  • Shipbuilding 2024
    What's Going on With Shipping?
    May 5, 2024
    In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the annual report released by BRS Shipbrokers and the status of commercial Shipbuilding in 2024
    #supplychain #shipbuilding #china #korea #japan #shipping
    00:00 Introduction and Background on Shipbuilding in 2024
    04:11 World Orderbook in 2024
    07:57 What types of ships are being built?
    10:59 How Much Does a New Ship Cost?
    13:37 China
    17:09 Korea
    20:30 Japan
    22:36 Europe
    24:22 Rest of the World
    25:53 Conclusion
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    BRS Shipbrokers Annual Reports
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    Hidden Harbors: China’s State-backed Shipping Industry
    www.csis.org/analysis/hidden-...
    China’s subsidies for shipbuilding
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 676

  • @matt39581
    @matt39581 27 днів тому +403

    this is the kind of thing that happens when the entire US economy is based on increasingly esoteric financial products that have no particular relationship to reality

    • @StarCityFAME
      @StarCityFAME 27 днів тому +1

      I agree. Sometimes, "If you build it... " nobody came. And all the kings horses, and all the kings men can't put all that money wasted on "studies" and "reports" back into the bank again.
      I mean, they did decide on all these things after serious consideration? Some scientific/analytical trials, right? Proof of viability? Anything to indicate success beyond, "It's good for the (___________________)," insert cause here? China does it most grandly, just to be clear. But we all seem to do it, globally. (That's besides all the other nonsense.)

    • @Jueyes-vg2gb
      @Jueyes-vg2gb 27 днів тому

      You dont understand our economy, think Rome and think of all the rest of the countries as tributary states. Our dollar and military is what we sell to the world wether they want it or not

    • @gpoplingregpoplin5682
      @gpoplingregpoplin5682 27 днів тому +28

      The ongoing subprime auto loan crisis can’t hear you, from here.

    • @KeithRowley
      @KeithRowley 27 днів тому +30

      Paired with legalized sports betting. You can now bet on anything at any level you want.

    • @Jueyes-vg2gb
      @Jueyes-vg2gb 27 днів тому +10

      @@gpoplingregpoplin5682 wars are inflationary, you think China Russia and India have less inflation? The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side

  • @keith6371
    @keith6371 6 днів тому +15

    i have recently visited a Geely production plant (Geely is the owner of volvo and biggest single share holder of Mercedes), it was a complete lights off operation. it was especially terrifying when i just walked in before the light was turned on, i saw sea of tiny red lights rapidly moving around in the dark. there are so few people on the production line i think labor cost is irrelevant. i only saw people at end of the production line doing inspections, and a few people here there putting some interior trims. it was the most automated production line i have ever seen. Even tesla lines had more people

    • @GH-xt5df
      @GH-xt5df 3 дні тому +6

      That light-off factory is a classic scenario of Industry 4.0 or MIC 2025, it is very common in factories of tech giants in China. The idea was initiated by Germans or someone else I dont remember, but investment in China was serious and huge. The aim wasn't simply about cutting down the cost on labors, in fact in the short run, the ROI wasn't ideal but in the long run, the quality can be improved significantly, the cost on labors going down is a side effect.

  • @peterelliott2914
    @peterelliott2914 27 днів тому +146

    The only surprise is what took them so long. China is the world's largest importer and the world's largest exporter. An example would be their ro-ro ships. Because they've recently become the world's largest exporter of cars they're building a bunch of ships to carry them and wharves to load them. Cosco has ordered 24 new ships for this and they'll be built by the end of this year. No other country would come even remotely close to those timelines and all those EVs would end up sitting around in China.
    Chinese shipbuilding is demand driven and Chinese shipyards are the only ones that can meet the demand.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 27 днів тому

      Chinese cars are junk. 😂

    • @stc2828
      @stc2828 27 днів тому +34

      China used to make most of the world’s toys and cloth, but wages in those sectors can never make it developed country. China just shifted to high end manufacturing, leaving cloth and other low end job to other countries

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 26 днів тому

      Each BYD car has five cameras with which China can spy

    • @Paul-H-Wolfram6608
      @Paul-H-Wolfram6608 23 дні тому +16

      ​@@stc2828
      Yup, China leaves those low end manufacturing products like cloth, jeans, shoes, hardware tools like ⚒️ hammer and other low end jobs to countries like Bangladesh, India, Vietnam and so on.

    • @tyn6211
      @tyn6211 23 дні тому +25

      It's interesting how we kept hearing about the Chinese real estate implosion, when it was a coordinated action by the Chinese government to move workers and capital to sectors that it deemed more strategically important - like technology and shipbuilding. It's not possible to increase that much production that fast without centralized planning for years. (yes, that's a dirty word, but the shipbuilding supply chain doesn't just develop willy nilly).

  • @jenghaohuanglin7441
    @jenghaohuanglin7441 21 день тому +133

    China's industrial system is the most complete in the world. It is no longer just the world's factory, but the most complete industry.

    • @bearpolo3618
      @bearpolo3618 21 день тому +28

      Yes, China is the only country in the world that established all industrial sectors defined by UN.

    • @yudogcome5901
      @yudogcome5901 20 днів тому +11

      China's industrial output value is the sum of the second to ninth places.

    • @farmers740
      @farmers740 18 днів тому +1

      王婆卖瓜

    • @bearpolo3618
      @bearpolo3618 18 днів тому +9

      @@farmers740 “王婆卖瓜”的意思你明白吗?中国是唯一拥有联合国定义的全部工业门类的国家,这就是事实,哪里跟自夸能联系得上?先好好学学汉语吧。

    • @farmers740
      @farmers740 18 днів тому

      @@bearpolo3618 简单说就是低端代工厂

  • @shawnkuo001
    @shawnkuo001 22 дні тому +45

    China’s industrial capacity is really amazing!

  • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
    @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 27 днів тому +105

    If you just look at the quality of ships they are building it becomes apparent that they are world leaders not only in manufacturing capacity but also in innovative technology. The world’s first nuclear powered container ship running on an innovative Thorium reactor was announced few months back! Even BYD a battery and EV company has its own RORO ships running on LNG! And the first battery powered container ship has been launched!

    • @ozymandias7592
      @ozymandias7592 27 днів тому +1

      We must sail on different ships, because all the Chinese made vessels i sailed in were not good to put it mildly.

    • @carl8790
      @carl8790 26 днів тому +6

      @@ozymandias7592 even the modern ones? Their modern vessels are actually decent, though Chinese reputation on manufacturing has always known to put more focus on scale than quality.

    • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
      @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 25 днів тому +1

      @@ozymandias7592 things have changed completely just in the past few years. Now Chinese vessels are as good as any!

    • @ulooqulg
      @ulooqulg 25 днів тому +20

      Ya guys even know how shipbuilding works? LoL.
      All those Architectural drawings, are drawn up as per CUSTOMERS request. Each are then scrutinised by Independent IACS for approval. As the shipbuild in progress IACS surveyors and Owners Superintendent are always present, monitoring to sign off the builds. Main Engine and its Auxiliaries machinery are perogative of OWNERS decisions. Its maintenance are of ship crew responsibility.
      Ya ever heard of naval incidents that blames the ShipYard building it ? 😂😂.

    • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
      @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 25 днів тому +28

      @@ozymandias7592 I have sailed on Chinese ships designed in 2005 delivered in 2009 and then years later in ones designed in 2013 delivered in 2018, they were a world apart! And now with the latest manufacturing processes and technologies and expanded shipyards, the newer ships are world class! That is why they are getting such orders.

  • @user-bt8vn3dj6o
    @user-bt8vn3dj6o 27 днів тому +108

    The industrial base of China is impressive.

    • @natmarelnam4871
      @natmarelnam4871 27 днів тому

      America could compete, but we're too busy waiting for 50000 inspections before work can start. You're a gross person, I'll let you figure out why.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 26 днів тому

      And, we paid for it. They’re still investing the retirement of Americans in Chinese markets.

    • @bearpolo3618
      @bearpolo3618 21 день тому

      China accounts for 1/3 of world manufacturing. That's why trade wars and tech sanctions won't work on China.

  • @lordlee6473
    @lordlee6473 24 дні тому +194

    China just signed a deal with Qatar for a whole lot of LNG ships. China is the only country that can build super carrier, LNG ship and ocean cruises, the three most complex ships to build. No other country comes even close.

    • @cherrybomb1229
      @cherrybomb1229 22 дні тому +6

      Supercarrier😂😂😂 it only looks good on outside just like all other stuff they make. Totally junk products foreigners laugh about.

    • @jimmylam9846
      @jimmylam9846 22 дні тому +56

      @@cherrybomb1229 When a country can built super LNG tankers then it means they are a top shipbuilder and the US can build no shipts

    • @dinggongyan9084
      @dinggongyan9084 22 дні тому +33

      @@cherrybomb1229keep coping .

    • @jamesma524
      @jamesma524 21 день тому

      @@cherrybomb1229”Your source”? LOL
      You’re commenting in an expert UA-cam channel who just showed you with official industry data that China’s market share went up from 50.6% in 2022 to 58.1% in 2023, “at the expense of Korea and other ship-building countries”…
      Remember - 1450ing may generate a few feel-good moments, but will never create any real value to help make your society a better one, nor will it prevent your enemy from becoming a stronger one.

    • @112313
      @112313 21 день тому +30

      ​@@cherrybomb1229"Written on a phone made in china..."

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 26 днів тому +38

    Congrats to China ❤

  • @cmartinmnl
    @cmartinmnl 27 днів тому +88

    The big difference isn't cheap labor or subsidies. It's now more on automation and a efficient supply system. Also as for quality same quality comes out of all countries! Owners has a specific requirement which has to be met.

    • @stc2828
      @stc2828 27 днів тому +8

      Chinese logistics is absurdly cheap. I can buy a 5kg dumbbell online from a different city and the whole thing include tax and shipping cost 3$😂. In America not even close to cover shipping cost

    • @acuantjahyadi7393
      @acuantjahyadi7393 21 день тому +4

      Pecundang hanya tau upah murah dan subsidi 😂😂 dia tidak tau bagaimana cara membuat sesuatu harus mempunyai kemampuan 😂😂

    • @dee-vee
      @dee-vee 20 днів тому

      Correct. US has been subsidizing their semiconductor and aerospace industries with hundreds of billions of dollars. Yet... The naysayers always use subsidies as some bad and uncompetitive thing but everyone does it, and especially the western nations.

    • @Akeem_768
      @Akeem_768 17 днів тому +2

      "cheap labor" is also a misnomer. Personnel are paid very well in China with alot of perks from employers

  • @JK-zw8ec
    @JK-zw8ec 27 днів тому +45

    Excellent report. China is also the world's largest producer of steel.

  • @Paul-H-Wolfram6608
    @Paul-H-Wolfram6608 23 дні тому +21

    That's the reason why today's China is able to built those huge naval aircraft carriers, amphibious assault ships, submarines and those naval destroyers, frigates, littoral combat ships, cruiser and patrol ships for their territorial water defense.

  • @keinaanabdi6821
    @keinaanabdi6821 27 днів тому +14

    Damn! China is completing 7 ships per day every day of the week! 🤯

  • @gpoplingregpoplin5682
    @gpoplingregpoplin5682 27 днів тому +81

    As someone that works in logistics- are you under the impression I’m watching this video by accident?
    Don’t apologize for getting in the weeds.
    Hell you should call your show “bunker shots in logistics, with Sal.”

    • @gregbluefinstudios4658
      @gregbluefinstudios4658 27 днів тому +7

      please, my liver complains enough with "Bab al-Mandab"
      No more "shots"

    • @random2829
      @random2829 26 днів тому

      The Chinese have retained enough of their history to know the events that precipitated "dynasty changes" - and there have been a LOT of them. Most of these "events" were due to "climate change". The Chinese know what event begins around 2030 and are trying to prepare for it. China is essentially "land-locked" and can't expand their borders beyond what they currently have. Most of the West is "preparing" by trying to reduce the population in their countries while "clearing out" the population that is within +/- 1380 miles (+/- 20 degrees) of the Equator. Guess where most of the "migrants" come from? It is much easier to bait a trap and have them come to you.

  • @thamimasuku3443
    @thamimasuku3443 21 день тому +17

    😂😂😂 denialism is a very bad mental disorder. Just bad mouthing China against all known facts is what has led Europe and US in this impending dead-end.

  • @effexon
    @effexon 27 днів тому +24

    this gonna be interesting. Sal is very unbiased, as I see many inflict bias despite saying they are not. Humans be humans.

  • @LunarGlow92
    @LunarGlow92 26 днів тому +37

    China has almost completely automated ship building factories that are close to running lights off. Its pretty fascinating yet terrifying to watch.

    • @jhadj
      @jhadj 26 днів тому +1

      Show me

    • @markosmataasii2000
      @markosmataasii2000 21 день тому +9

      @@jhadjI think he meant with automated 5G ports where virtually AI was being used for all the port processing no humans at all involved except for monitoring inside the control system. You can check it online. Yes, all factories and major infrastructure in CHINA are rapidly modernizing in fast pace.

    • @dreadfulbodyguard7288
      @dreadfulbodyguard7288 20 днів тому +1

      Robots per capita is still much higher in South Korea than China.

    • @Kent-ft8vj
      @Kent-ft8vj 20 днів тому +3

      巡航导弹也是自动化生产,恐惧吗😊

    • @friedzombie4
      @friedzombie4 17 днів тому

      ​@@Kent-ft8vj如果属实的话,令人印象深刻,我希望台湾问题能够在不流血的情况下得到解决,以便我们能够再次畅通无阻地进行贸易。

  • @SpruceWood-NEG
    @SpruceWood-NEG 27 днів тому +19

    These orders were received a few years ago. The shipowner receives the ship and directly accepts transportation services in China, including cargo ships manufactured in South Korea. After being launched, they also directly receive transportation services in China.

  • @user-on3ie9uv3x
    @user-on3ie9uv3x 27 днів тому +21

    If you consider the four key factors of manufacturing: people, methods, capital, and markets, then you can easily predict that China is a potential leader in any product as long as the product is deemed by the Chinese government to be of great significance to the national economy. Simply put, if a product is not protected by patents (and therefore subject to sanctions barriers from some countries), it will be produced in China, better and cheaper. It's just math.

  • @gerbalblaste
    @gerbalblaste 27 днів тому +63

    Imagine having an actual industrial policy. Best we can do is overpriced military contractors and dangerous financial instruments.

    • @jhadj
      @jhadj 26 днів тому +6

      Crazy to think about. I'm sure there is room for more competition, but it's also a cultural issue in USA

    • @thinkingtoomuch7974
      @thinkingtoomuch7974 22 дні тому +4

      I thought everything was rosy under Bidenomics? 🤣

    • @ibubezi7685
      @ibubezi7685 21 день тому

      But does China have gender-neutral toilets? See, we're so 'advanced'!

    • @dee-vee
      @dee-vee 20 днів тому +3

      "overpriced military contractors" : Only 29% of F-35s are mission-capable. Cost to maintain fleet: 1.5 trillion USD. Operational hours trending down, while costs trending up. Facts. See Matt Gaetz questioning Secretary Austin.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 19 днів тому +1

      @@dee-vee Geeze is it really that bad? I thought it was around 50%

  • @jerryjohnson4008
    @jerryjohnson4008 27 днів тому +8

    Still tracking ya on the shipping videos and watching all them. Enjoying the work. 😌

  • @USA047
    @USA047 27 днів тому +4

    Thanks my guy. I’m glad I found your page

  • @Ts7n
    @Ts7n 27 днів тому +40

    "Perun" in the morning, "What about Shipping" in the afternoon… nice 😊 👍

    • @seanpruitt6801
      @seanpruitt6801 27 днів тому +6

      same lol!

    • @Sugarmountaincondo
      @Sugarmountaincondo 27 днів тому +4

      Ditto

    • @frankbarnwell____
      @frankbarnwell____ 27 днів тому +3

      Thanks for reminding me. This, Perun and Drachinifel, actually eat then up for work at 3am.

    • @simonschneider5913
      @simonschneider5913 27 днів тому +3

      peruns track record is abysmal. listen to what he said early 2023...its not even funny anymore.

    • @seanpruitt6801
      @seanpruitt6801 27 днів тому +1

      @@simonschneider5913 have you heard the expression “no one can predict the future least of all economists” how exactly is he supposed to predict aid flows and battlefield predictions etc? Also most of what he says is backed up by data and statistics.

  • @kiyoshitakeda452
    @kiyoshitakeda452 27 днів тому +5

    Excellent stats and info. Very constructive. Thanks.

  • @TheVigilant109
    @TheVigilant109 27 днів тому +4

    Many thanks Sal. Very important update

  • @krispypriest5116
    @krispypriest5116 27 днів тому +37

    Thanks Sal.
    As a WW2 nut and some basic understanding about logistics (war/economy), the USA was pumping out a Destroyer/escorts every 7 days (175 units/32 months) and cargo' (2,700 Liberty!!) ships.
    China is rising (JUST like the USA/WW2) and well it's going to get interesting.
    Peace and thanks for covering this!

    • @martineastburn3679
      @martineastburn3679 27 днів тому

      I believe we are in a cold war and the government is blind to the three Axis members causing trouble already.

    • @stc2828
      @stc2828 27 днів тому +3

      Chinese civilian aircraft building capacity is seriously lacking, and I think aircraft is more important than ships these days. You can see why Chinese are in a hurry to build civilian jetliners manufacturing capability

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 22 дні тому +7

      ​@@stc2828
      All in good time. They already mastered building high speed rail. Now they are on par with NASA with their space program. Aircraft will be the next milestone.

    • @user-kk6ec4mj4g
      @user-kk6ec4mj4g 22 дні тому +1

      How does China's current manufacturing capacity compare to that of the United States during World War II?

    • @sickg6417
      @sickg6417 22 дні тому +6

      yes, China's industrial capacity is larger than that of the following 9 countries combined,
      and US' war budget is larger than that of next 9 countries combined
      so it would be really interesting when season 3 happens,

  • @bigdoze172
    @bigdoze172 27 днів тому +8

    Great video. Thank you for so thoroughly explaining what these charts mean. It is very confusing and you break it down so anyone can understand. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @AllNighterHeider
    @AllNighterHeider 27 днів тому

    Always a good time
    Thanks Sal

  • @lydiafife8716
    @lydiafife8716 27 днів тому +3

    Thank you, Sal!

  • @paultranchell8927
    @paultranchell8927 27 днів тому +6

    Wow, lots of detail.

  • @levi_ackermanns_gilfriend4798
    @levi_ackermanns_gilfriend4798 27 днів тому +2

    Really, as one living near/in a formerly wellknowm shipbuilding area on the baltic coast, these are quite startling stats. Thanks for made-understandable-and-sharing.

  • @13699111
    @13699111 27 днів тому +3

    Excellent thank you

  • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
    @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 27 днів тому +11

    Every government including Japan Korea and USA give direct and indirect subsidies to their industries in areas where they want to compete . For example USA gave huge subsidies to Tesla during Obama period and more recently huge subsidies are being handed out for setting up semiconductor manufacturing plants in USA! Why blame China ! Why not give subsidies to shipbuilding in USA where shipyards are struggling to stay afloat and US government though providing cheap land and electricity to them is trying to fail the smaller yards so that they can give government contracts to big companies! Small yards like SwiftShips payments are being held up and the century old yard is struggling while for the same contract Austal is being paid twice! Is that China’s fault? Get your own house in order! Promote SME that produce things and stop rewarding financial sector, the stock exchanges, the hedge funds, the investment banks, Wall Street leeches and the software companies like Apple, Facebook, Microsoft etc who can buy politicians and government officials for favourable policies!

    • @peterau108
      @peterau108 22 дні тому +3

      The problem is America society as a whole doesn’t want to do the hard work. IT’s manufacturing capabilities has been declining in all front from shipping buildings, airline manufacturing and chip manufacturing with the whole entire supply line industry disappearing these is why America can’t compete against China. All the smart people are in financial and companies all engage in financial manipulation instead of investing in advanced manufacturing. Look at today the AI revolution all you see is chat GPT that is all in service but where is the AL on manufacturing because America’s doesn’t have the supply chain left to do the job. What America has left is the printing press printing actually worthless piece of paper USD to exchange all the hard work from people around to supply the need for the American citizens, one day in the not too distant future the USD is destined to fail. The amount of US deficit is running at an sustainable level, the American economy seem great now but the house of card will end in horror.

    • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
      @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 21 день тому

      @@peterau108 you are right the top talent including those gifted in maths head to financial sector which gives them better opportunities and more money

  • @methylmike
    @methylmike 27 днів тому +37

    sal, can you do an episode on ship build quality?
    like what kind of things and places would you look at to judge ship build quality?

    • @bigdoze172
      @bigdoze172 27 днів тому

      I am also very curious about this. As much as china tries to censor everything, news does get out that they tend to cut corners and produce in poor quality. How could that effect these multimillion dollar investments?

    • @bigdoze172
      @bigdoze172 27 днів тому +11

      If I’m a shipping business owner I’m putting up the extra money to buy mine from japan or south korea for sure. But thats not how corporate leaders think

    • @bogeys1242
      @bogeys1242 27 днів тому +15

      Quality. Non-existent in Chinese products. As a former (retired) project manager having to deal with China in a heavy industry, I can tell you that people should think about forged documents, copyright infringements, and outright lies. But, as another commentary states,...it's not what top levels of management in corporations worry about.
      But...if you've dealt with China in the past...you already know this.
      South Korean products are far superior.

    • @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh
      @ScoobieDoo-zy1rh 27 днів тому +14

      @@bogeys1242yeah like my iPhone, the quality is nonexistent 😂😂

    • @tannen3339
      @tannen3339 27 днів тому +23

      @@bogeys1242 Cope. You get what you pay for. There's a reason why Ukraine prefers DJI over american drones. Cheap and better quality.

  • @johncheresna
    @johncheresna 27 днів тому +3

    thanks

  • @T82975
    @T82975 26 днів тому +1

    Hi. I was alerted to your channel by Jaun at Blancolirio.
    Absolutely fantastic content.
    Thanks for explaining shipping simply.

  • @Kana7782
    @Kana7782 27 днів тому +1

    Would you mind eventually doing a video on the container/gantry cranes? How they’re built, where they’re built, how they’re used, etc.

  • @112313
    @112313 21 день тому +12

    Subsidies? Dude....did you know cost of doing business in china is much lower than other place?

  • @erich623
    @erich623 23 дні тому +1

    There is an automation push in the Chinese shipbuilding market, it would be an interesting topic to discuss in the context of other big shipbuilding countries.

  • @onecanmadman
    @onecanmadman 27 днів тому +48

    A couple of years ago i was on a newbuild LNG carrier built by CSSC china, I was expecting a disaster but actually the build quality was ok... overall pretty much the same as korean...

    • @Argus-ut8gi
      @Argus-ut8gi 23 дні тому +23

      Looking at the market share of China's shipbuilding industry, if there are quality problems, it means that more than half of the ships in the world have quality problems.
      I remember that a few years ago, a US fighter plane crashed into the sea, and they rented a Chinese-made deep-sea salvage ship owned by a Singaporean company to salvage it.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 22 дні тому +15

      Why should you be expecting a disaster in the first place. Their reputation is already well established.

    • @onecanmadman
      @onecanmadman 22 дні тому +2

      @@kamsunleong6648 this was in 2021, I can tell you at that time nobody was 'eager' to come onboard a Chinese new build, this is from the point of view of officers onboard. Overall china does not have a great reputation for build quality of anything (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). I have a new chinese-made lifejacket in my cabin here and the quality of it does not exactly fill me with confidence... You take over a market by undercutting the price, but it has to come at the expense of something...

    • @thiesemuel
      @thiesemuel 22 дні тому +11

      ​@@onecanmadmanok you base your judgement on a cheap jacket your ship provide. But good quality one and guess what, probably made in China too.

    • @HaoZhang-zz2dd
      @HaoZhang-zz2dd 22 дні тому +6

      @@onecanmadman It's just a stereotype. While it's true that you can capture the market by lowering prices, you can't do it all just by lowering prices, unless you assume that all buyers are stupid. At the very least, you must meet certain quality requirements while lowering prices. Therefore, if China can gradually account for a larger proportion of the entire market, it means that its overall cost performance is higher.

  • @Buhayamerica658
    @Buhayamerica658 27 днів тому

    Sal, the IMO's GHG emissions targets were changed more than a year ago to net-zero in 2050, from the previous 50% reduction you mentioned, in order to more closely align with the Paris agreement.

  • @hiscifi2986
    @hiscifi2986 27 днів тому +2

    I am just wondering if you think Hyundai have already made a contoured patch for the front of Dali, as they have the original plans...? Or would it be possible to use flat plate, over the hole in the bow...? I doubt if Baltimore has the facilities to bend sheet steel.

  • @fubarbrandon1345
    @fubarbrandon1345 27 днів тому +3

    Sal...Great information! Can you give the who's building, ordering, ICE Class vessels?

  • @user-so4bu7ys6h
    @user-so4bu7ys6h 27 днів тому +12

    Most of people only know the first tier shipyards belong to the CSSC group or Yangzijiang. But there are many 2nd, 3rd even 4th tier shipyard can build larger than 10K DWT ships are not included in the order book mentioned. If necessary, the big guy can easily to use the resource of the smaller shipyard and transfer to the mainline shipyards.

  • @markseaton7863
    @markseaton7863 27 днів тому +2

    You Rock with Bells of time

  • @Tdzzz450
    @Tdzzz450 8 днів тому +1

    Strategic central planning, you love to see it
    China literally publishes 5-year plans to all, work towards those goals and then re-visits in the next planning period.
    When you have a rotating prime minister/president every 4-5 years, it’s hard to have a long-term plan

  • @dawner84
    @dawner84 23 дні тому +3

    The interest rate hikes in the United States in recent years have led to Japan and South Korea also raising interest rates, which has had a great impact on industries such as shipbuilding companies that borrow huge amounts of money. China is indeed one of the few countries to cut interest rates, which has created a cost advantage.

    • @PoreeL-bg6zx
      @PoreeL-bg6zx 4 дні тому

      true,the business of ships is about it to some degree.

  • @yu-jd5jg
    @yu-jd5jg 25 днів тому +12

    How to beat a country that is building quality ships, competitive prices, fast delivery, and financial support?

    • @peronliu6886
      @peronliu6886 22 дні тому

      sanction with the name of freedom and democracy

    • @WarLionsofGesar
      @WarLionsofGesar 19 днів тому

      war

    • @yu-jd5jg
      @yu-jd5jg 19 днів тому

      @@WarLionsofGesar How to go to war with a MAD-capable country?

    • @JinghuaN2G
      @JinghuaN2G 18 днів тому

      @@WarLionsofGesaroh boy, be careful of what you wish fkr

    • @WarLionsofGesar
      @WarLionsofGesar 18 днів тому

      @@JinghuaN2G what if not? bite me?

  • @frankmcelroy3792
    @frankmcelroy3792 27 днів тому

    I'm curious, are ULCC tankers in use or being built? Back in the early 80's I was on the ULCC Esso Atlantic

  • @winstonwong4942
    @winstonwong4942 21 день тому +22

    US decline due to having those "Proud Boys"... and some mentality "why work when its ok to loot"😂😂😂

  • @alexcane6458
    @alexcane6458 27 днів тому +1

    Does UK come under Europe or RoW? ....or DNQ?....

  • @matthewpatnaude8905
    @matthewpatnaude8905 27 днів тому +1

    How explosive are ammonia loaded ships?

  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock 27 днів тому +4

    What kind of engine burns ammonia? That's new to me...didn't know it could combust!!

  • @caynehampton1878
    @caynehampton1878 25 днів тому +1

    We still have the Philly Shipyard around here, but it does not produce the number of ships like in China, South Korea, and Japan, and are built here for the US Merchant Marine.

    • @thinkingtoomuch7974
      @thinkingtoomuch7974 22 дні тому

      You guys are just too busy with your stupid financial "products" and your overlords, Israel and the Military Industrial Complex.

  • @georgewest2096
    @georgewest2096 27 днів тому +4

    Simply stated, we really need to grow or we will die. As far as world shipping is conmcernned.

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 23 дні тому

      Not to mentioned the top three, China, S.Korea and Japan, in fact, US is behind Vietnam, Philipine and Iran.
      😆

  • @user-kd3zd2nd9p
    @user-kd3zd2nd9p 3 дні тому

    Bulding 1 aircraft carrier is a lot more valuable than building 20 commercial vessels. So, deadweight doesn’t mean everything. In the end, shipyards offering lower price can stand only government incentives for a while.

  • @GM4ThePeople
    @GM4ThePeople 27 днів тому +1

    1) The Yen has weakened yuge (vs. the Dollar) since the Cooftime, the Won less so, & the Yuan less than that. At some point (soon?), the Japanese loss of market share to China may turn around.
    2) Will be interesting to see how long dirty old little "garbage scow" ;) container ships stick around with high maintenance & insurance (& fuel?) costs & emissions taxes. Could it be that container rates are stabilizing at current levels?

  • @gregbluefinstudios4658
    @gregbluefinstudios4658 27 днів тому +2

    One doesn't have to memorize all the numbers, to see TRENDS. And the TRENDS have some pretty big global, as well as NATIONAL strategic implications, for us here locally. Shame that the powers that be, cannot see that as well.

  • @joefin5900
    @joefin5900 27 днів тому +1

    Boston and NYC have the facilities, but do they have the skilled labor to build ships? When building the Freedom Tower, we had to get welders qualified to AWS D1.5 from all over the country.

    • @hink0027
      @hink0027 21 день тому +1

      US got high pay labor with no skill whatsoever

  • @danwhiffen9235
    @danwhiffen9235 27 днів тому +1

    Are ULCCs not a thing anymore??

  • @Go4Corvette
    @Go4Corvette 27 днів тому +1

    So all we build in the USA is warships?

  • @stephenmellentine
    @stephenmellentine 26 днів тому +2

    Don't think I heard a single Bab-el-Mandeb. On Cinco de Mayo, no less!

  • @random2829
    @random2829 26 днів тому

    @27:00 The same is true anytime you try to convert from one fuel source to another. You HAVE to have the facilities in place to help drive the "conversion". These facilities are neither "simple" nor "cheap" to build but if you don't then the "new" products will never sell.
    Salesman: "Buy the new LNG-powered ship! It can get 100 NM per gallon!"
    Captain: "Sounds great! And where can I refuel this bad boy?"
    Salesman: "Right now, just Yantian or Galveston"
    Captain: "Yah, think I'll hold on to my old vessel for now"

  • @GON-lu4me
    @GON-lu4me 6 днів тому

    Government's subsidy is the key to the size of China's shipbuilding. Shipbuilding companies in China are all Government-run, and Purchasers of the Ships in China are all Government-run. This is why China maintain the huge shipbuilding industry.

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 27 днів тому +3

    What will happen to the Dali? Will a new bow be installed in China.? It will have to be patched before it can be sent a shipyard that can handle her.

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 24 дні тому

      People still focus on how to remove those bridge steel.

  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock 27 днів тому +4

    Can you point to any difference in build quality/ lifespan between Korea/Japan, vs. Chinese built vessels? Just curious...

    • @ivybae9906
      @ivybae9906 21 день тому +2

      Japan is already out of the competition. Its basically Skorea vs China when it comes to global shipbuilding.

  • @user-me2dy6ct4z
    @user-me2dy6ct4z 11 днів тому

    The world s number one in ship building and also car making

  • @spinmaster4348
    @spinmaster4348 5 днів тому

    So when will there be sanctions on Chinese ship building market? Somehow it remains to be sanctioned when it arguably needs to be sanctioned the most. South Korea and Japan have the full capacity in replacing them. Really looking forward to updates on that matter.

  • @stc2828
    @stc2828 27 днів тому +51

    Please stop blaming everything on America’s deindustrialization. Chinese outcompeted both Japan and South Korea and everyone else! There must be some other reason why it’s so competitive to build in China 😮

    • @sfertonoc
      @sfertonoc 22 дні тому +3

      Chinese cheating for steel prices at the WTO helps too.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 22 дні тому +27

      ​@@sfertonoc
      Cheap steel prices alone won't help China built more than half of the world's shipping tonnage. They have a skillful, capable, and hardworking workforce to make this happened. All three East Asian countries in fact.
      countries

    • @Skidderoperator
      @Skidderoperator 22 дні тому

      Easy to kill competition when you have slave labor.

    • @deathless3518
      @deathless3518 22 дні тому

      @@Skidderoperatoragain China’s middle clasd is bigger than America’s population. Please keep bitching and making excuses the truth is America had become incompetent, look at Boeing. They’re literally assassinating whistleblowers to hide their shoddy work

    • @stc2828
      @stc2828 22 дні тому +32

      @@Skidderoperator Chinese labors are paid higher than most other developing countries 😀

  • @pacificatoris9307
    @pacificatoris9307 6 днів тому

    How much of shipbuilding is just assembly as opposed to components like engines and navigation? Not sure this question is approbose in this area.

  • @merrick6484
    @merrick6484 23 дні тому +4

    Not to mentioned the top three builders, China, S.Korea and Japan.
    US is even much behind Vietnam, Philipine and Iran.
    How did US get to this situation?
    Loosing to Iran and Philipine?

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 23 дні тому +1

      Pinay should be proud. 😊

  • @richardmeyeroff7397
    @richardmeyeroff7397 16 днів тому

    I recently saw an article that the Chinese were looking to build an ultra large container that was Nuclear Powered. Is this true? I remember when the US built the Nuclear powered Savannah but one of the problems with running the ship was that it was not allowed into many nations harbors so it became a bust, what do you think of the Chinese chances of theirs being a success.
    I have also heard that a company was looking to build a modern sailing ship with vertical sails. What do you think of this project being a success?

  • @george2113
    @george2113 27 днів тому +1

    Sal is it the hull or fittings that wear out first

    • @andreweppink4498
      @andreweppink4498 27 днів тому +2

      HulI, from what l understand. HulI ultrasounding is always the 1st priority in drydocking. Machinery, fittings etc. are way down the line. Vessels just dissolve in seawater - protective coatings, cathodic protection etc. notwithstanding.

  • @effexon
    @effexon 27 днів тому +2

    about that fuel need, as we saw 2020 covid crash reduced oil demand significantly and they kept it runnning just as airflight (Cargo mostly) needed it and as byproduct there are other oil based fuel types, I wonder with these big green agenda and electrification, what would that look in shipping, as that uses crude heavy oil and other forms but in huge quantities as ships are heavy, so would there be similar effect or can ships simply burn crude oil when nothing else is available? some brand new cruise ships use natural gas or LNG for this reason. it's not about couple giant containerships but those maps are swarming with ships hauling some cargo, so amount is simply staggering in world scale. I dont see people are ready quite yet 1960s soviet futuristic prospects fashion to use nuclear power in civil merchant shipping.

    • @george2113
      @george2113 27 днів тому +1

      Some wells produce light sweet crude, and some wells produce heavy sour crude. Very different product

    • @specialed6357
      @specialed6357 27 днів тому

      China was building nuclear powered merchant shipping container ships last I heard about a couple months ago.

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 21 день тому +1

    Economy of scale and high vertical integration of supply chain make China very competitive in the market just like EV.
    Government subsidy, cheap labor, safety….the usual black filter. Buying a ship is major investment, don’t underestimate buyers’ intelligence in decision making. China is in lead in many industries, if subsidy is a factor for these leads then Chinese government should be bankrupted a long time ago, and we should label them as the “charity” government.

  • @thunderdragon888
    @thunderdragon888 18 днів тому

    Bravo China...current & future superpower in everything.

  • @Jjirehc
    @Jjirehc 22 дні тому

    Initially, it's mass building. Currently it's quality building

  • @johnzmuzic
    @johnzmuzic 23 дні тому

    A lot of European Ro Ro ferry operators are designing and then supervising construction in China , because the build is cheaper there .

  • @eliasthienpont6330
    @eliasthienpont6330 27 днів тому

    🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 THE LION WAS HERE 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 No. 1600 ----> Details? Detail is at the other end of de cat.

  • @darrylhermann5505
    @darrylhermann5505 27 днів тому

    Does the Jones Act apply to aircraft?

  • @morthomer5804
    @morthomer5804 27 днів тому +2

    If ships are built in the US, how much steel is needed from China?

    • @ArtStoneUS
      @ArtStoneUS 27 днів тому

      Europe's ambition to fight a war with Russia will quickly cause them to realize they have shut down most of their steel mills. China is unlikely to sell steel to Europe to build artillery shells

    • @hink0027
      @hink0027 21 день тому

      they will buy more cheaper steel from india

  • @normalbutyl
    @normalbutyl 27 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the upload keep them coming !

  • @annamarie5372
    @annamarie5372 27 днів тому

    Could u give container costs around the world

  • @annamarie5372
    @annamarie5372 27 днів тому +5

    Gone is Korean ships and old day Greek shippers

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 23 дні тому +3

      Gone is US, even behind Vietnam, Philipine and Iran.

  • @grandulasperty1812
    @grandulasperty1812 27 днів тому

    maybe it's a problem with my browser, but from about minute 14 the screen shows the very same table, as Sal is going on talking on a host of different topics... hard to follow just listening to a string of numbers 😕Anybody experienced this?

    • @torelloBank
      @torelloBank 20 днів тому

      you need to change your graphic card.

  • @jklee5419
    @jklee5419 21 день тому +2

    The US has been used to earning easy money for a long time. Manufacturing jobs are too tedious and exhausting

  • @censorshipagainstthemiddle6198
    @censorshipagainstthemiddle6198 24 дні тому +1

    13:36 fair to say, allying with us was a bad bet?

  • @1BigBen
    @1BigBen 23 дні тому

    problem is ships are outgrowing shipyard infrastructure and lack of investment into new area
    Japan and South Korea are running out of land and poor renewal of its population.
    and US is coming closes to be DW when it comes to shipbuilding,
    as it is hard work and too "low pay" for Gen laZy.

  • @AIPretendingToBeHuman
    @AIPretendingToBeHuman 27 днів тому +2

    China's dominance is probably based on its dominance on the entire supply chain, industrial policy and demographics --- mines for the steel, refinery of the steel, engines, electronics, automated ship-building etc. It will probably get worse for competitors. Finally, China graduates 6,000,000 tech workers (probably more than the rest of the world combined) per year, and will continue to do so for the next 30 years.

    • @turtlesoup8134
      @turtlesoup8134 27 днів тому +1

      too complex and no room to cope for the average people in the west. Subsidy, stealing, low quality, China Bad is just about as much as they can understand or willing to understand. Apparently, they think they are smarter than the professionals and shipowners who paid hundreds of million of dollars to purchase ship from China.

  • @ablewindsor1459
    @ablewindsor1459 27 днів тому +1

    Thanks 👍😊

  • @karlbrundage7472
    @karlbrundage7472 27 днів тому +1

    Sorry Sal, I managed to make it to 14:44, but my eyes glazed-over and I had to just give a thumbs-up and cut away to a cat video....................................

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  27 днів тому +3

      No worries. This is a pure wonk video, but I love this stuff.

  • @raylee5030
    @raylee5030 11 годин тому

    Tell me which industries in US do not get government subsidies. I had given government money to numerous nuclear, fossil, instrument, machinery manufacturers to help them develop commercial items.

  • @johngibson3837
    @johngibson3837 27 днів тому +2

    Hey up sal i love your videos but in this one about half way when you started to talk of the ship building around the world couldn't get a grip with what you were on about, talking of this that and the other that wasn't on those stats you were showing, wanted to learn mate but this wasn't your normal style, like you were late for dinner or the pub, still gave you a like though

  • @duncandomey8199
    @duncandomey8199 27 днів тому +1

    720p?

    • @wgowshipping
      @wgowshipping  27 днів тому

      Don't know why it recorded in such a low resolution. Sorry!

  • @user-zx1vv1fb7o
    @user-zx1vv1fb7o 18 днів тому +1

    But that really started because of container ships to haul there cargo all over the world an now they rake it in

  • @animemoments8452
    @animemoments8452 9 днів тому

    WHAT IS THE TOP 5 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD IN MANUFACTURING OF SHIPS???

  • @sophrapsune
    @sophrapsune 27 днів тому +2

    Why is merchant shipbuilding not viewed as a sovereign strategic capability?
    This concentration of manufacture is a massive risk.

  • @JoanneLeon
    @JoanneLeon 27 днів тому +13

    We need to invest seriously in shipbuilding again. Hope some Congressfolk are listening

    • @SpruceWood-NEG
      @SpruceWood-NEG 27 днів тому +3

      The United States has never had a place in the civilian shipbuilding industry. After World War II, a large number of military standard ships were built, which were emergency and not durable.

    • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
      @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 27 днів тому

      US government is actively working to destroy small and medium shipyards!

    • @ulooqulg
      @ulooqulg 25 днів тому

      Will you readily subside the shipbuilding n yard with your hard earned tax ...

    • @yilivalley
      @yilivalley 21 день тому

      With members of Congress earning 100 percent a year on their stocks, far more than Buffett, you're talking to financial experts about whether ship building is too harsh

    • @JoanneLeon
      @JoanneLeon 21 день тому

      @@yilivalley Dude you need to train your troll bot a little better. This comment doesn't make sense.

  • @Atmatan_Kabbaher
    @Atmatan_Kabbaher 27 днів тому +1

    Woah. I'm early.

  • @pg8010
    @pg8010 10 днів тому

    LNG and other high value high tech ships mostly go to S.Korea and most low tech orders to go China

    • @greedyinvader9462
      @greedyinvader9462 2 дні тому

      Qatar and French just order LNG ship from China, denialsm just make you looks st*p*d