Good on ya brother! I had my rear subframe reinforced at an indy shop because it was just too daunting to try and tackle myself. The one thing that I wish I had added at that time was upgrading to adjustable rear camber arms. It would have been so much easier & cheaper than having to go back in after the fact to get that done. I did replace the RTAB too, so next I'm on to bullet proofing the VANOS system. Glad you're back posting again!
How much did it cost to have a shop do it if you don't mind me asking. I had a local shop quote me several thousand dollars. I can't imagine what the dealership would charge
You did well getting the whole subframe assembly removed in one hit. This is inspiration to get my black m3 done now. This’ll be the 3rd e46 rear end in bits for me. I love a challenge 😂. Really well done Dude👌🏻
Respect to you buddy!! Finally, someone who knows how to weld a crack.. so nice to see your good looking welds. Not so easy upside down, changing to vertical then upside down again. Oh.. just got to 10 mins and you said you had your friend do that welding.. never mind.. Quality video!!
I take my hat off to you, subframe is a lot of work on any car. E46 is definitely one of the time consuming car subframe to do. I got lucky when I bought my car, my good friend from Boostlogic in Austin Texas did my subframe and every single bushing in the rear of my M3. Then shipped my car to me
Really like ur channel. Nice M3. I’ve just finished doing this to mine, made exactly the same mistakes/errors of judgement, that u did. Took me forever to get the rear end bolted back onto the car. WTF were we thinking trying to bolt the whole rear end back on. But we learn by our mistakes, I bet you won’t do it that way again and ur pain isn’t in vain if somebody watches this and does it the easy way. Shugs.
Great video and fantastic tips, I myself have a e46 m3 and have done for many years, on visual inspection no cracks but who knows what lies underneath, Reddish motorsport here in the uk specialise in the subframe reinforcements so one day will no doubt visit them, this is way beyond my skill level what you just done. Fantastic to watch. 🏴👏🏻❤️
Thanks! I did a visual inspection on mine a while ago and couldn’t see anything either. So like you said, who knows what lies beneath. Thanks for watching!
Well done. Much respect for you to tackle this job. Had mine done by my mechanic. Finally decided this past year to move on from the E46 M3 for road track purposes. A lot of people are coming back saying they still are getting cracks in subframe mount points even after doing this update. That you need to reinforce the top half by connecting the mount points and reduce twisting. Mason bar and some other solutions available. I decided to move on as it’s just too much of a hassle to sort this car out for track duty. They’re still awesome cars.
You could also look into the Vince bar from Vince Philstrom in Sweden. Stealthy install and redistribute the subframe load to more reinforced areas of the chassis. Nice work. I'm going to do this in the off season, won't have enough time to do this despite having all the parts.
Nino Brown out of curiosity, how do you add primer before you weld something? Wouldn’t the weld burn off any primer? Wouldn’t you put any rust protection after the welds? I’ve never welded a car before so I’m asking.
@@logicsfinest3471 there are special types of primer for this - it will burn through it as it has to. But it will secure the metal around it. Google about these primers
@@BlackFlagged I've got 80k miles on mine and it's in way worse shape. Visible cracks from the spot wolds around the sub-frame mounting points and a big one travelling up the fold in the floor panel. I think after the CSL in 2003 the changed some of the spot welds, or added more, because cars from 03 onward seem to be more solid.
O yes absolutly delighted you are back after your hiatus . Fantastic work on the m3 . Youll love it mine is very similar but with true rears and polybushs . Youll be addicted to driving again:)
You are doing amazing job, just wanted to tell you...i hope you will do more videos, i do my m3 as well by myself and i need people like you to show me what to do and how to do so thx and hope you are doing well ..peace
That's my next big job on my E90. Get a spare subframe, derust it, paint it, then remove everything, replace ALL bushings, do some rustproofing on the underside, put it all back together. Can't say I'm looking forward to it but it has to be done.
Links to parts list? We all want to know of where to source great parts. Thanks! And fantastic job on the M3! Excellent vlog you got! And awesome content, with fantastic editing skills! You might just be the best E46 M3 channel on UA-cam! Keep up the great work. People like me appreciate you videos.
How easy it is when you have a lift and don't have to crawl under your car on porous asphalt without a creeper, with 1' 1/2 of clearance and remove the subframe of an e46 at 35°C, piece by piece... So yeah, I did what you did, but in far faaar worse conditions than you faced. It was tough, but not super hard Appreciate what you have, cause it can always be worse
Mate that is a very very nice e46. Exactly like mine except mine had same silver wheels. Was totalled in a head-on. Very sad. Good job. Absolutely love the car
Brooo Great Job I think this is one of your best Videos yet and definitely one of the best videos showing how to do this job on your own. I might take on this challenge as well on mines!!
Dude you’re videos are awesome attention to details is awesome I’m doing a pretty insane E30’s build now located in south Florida as well hope to run into you sometime would love to see the car
What was the reason of removing one layer of metal (the 3 drilled holes in trunk and cut the top layer out) just to weld it again? Was there anything added there?
The differential install is incorrect and possibly what attributed to the front bolt stripping. The front bolt and two rear bolts should be threaded hand tight and then the front bolt is to be torqued first (correct torque spec is 148 ft/lb) followed by the two rear bolts (correct tightening sequence is 15 ft/lb followed by a 90* angle torque).
Can do it as it’s my daily but I had my Indy shop do it. Now I am having high engine noise faults on the BMW computer so I am thinking it’s the rod bearings.
Hate to say this, but plating is not enough. The only certain way to do this, is to tie the subframe mounts into the chassis legs. The plates only move the stress to other places that will fail.
Dude, you have sparks flying everywhere inside the car during your welding and grinding !! Why didn't you cover the upholstery ? I bet there's burn holes everywhere now..
good video but there's a reason BMW put somewhat squishy bushes and not solid as a rock Acetyl in there and reinforcing the body is good, but only shifts the problem to the next weakest point on an already marginal body design. the English boys - Beamish do loads of videos on the topic. a little anal yes but thorough. your style is great and a very informative easy to follow format.
This is the one i ended up using for everything except the diff mounts: 8MILELAKE 23 Piece FWD Front... www.amazon.com/dp/B016W4LHZ4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share The one I used for the diff mounts is just one I rented from the auto parts store before I bought the one above
The production quality of this video exceeds all other subframe videos. Future people who need this diy will continue to thank you.
Thanks so much 🙏
And one year later Matt I'm thanking him for this video
Just so you know man thanks for the motivation I build my e 46 alone and to see someone else doing more then me alone goes along way good work man
Of all the DIY e46 videos this is pure gold!! Thank you
Awesome, thanks!
Guys, such as yourself, helped me through all my E46 repairs. Very thorough and to the point. Thanx, for your knowledge.
Awesome, thanks for the comment. And you’re welcome! Happy to provide any help I can.
Good on ya brother! I had my rear subframe reinforced at an indy shop because it was just too daunting to try and tackle myself. The one thing that I wish I had added at that time was upgrading to adjustable rear camber arms. It would have been so much easier & cheaper than having to go back in after the fact to get that done. I did replace the RTAB too, so next I'm on to bullet proofing the VANOS system. Glad you're back posting again!
Thanks man! Yeah good point on the rear camber arms. I feel like I’m always limited by budget. But yes VANOS is next on my list as well!
How much did it cost to have a shop do it if you don't mind me asking. I had a local shop quote me several thousand dollars. I can't imagine what the dealership would charge
You did well getting the whole subframe assembly removed in one hit. This is inspiration to get my black m3 done now. This’ll be the 3rd e46 rear end in bits for me. I love a challenge 😂.
Really well done Dude👌🏻
Thanks man!
Respect to you buddy!! Finally, someone who knows how to weld a crack.. so nice to see your good looking welds. Not so easy upside down, changing to vertical then upside down again. Oh.. just got to 10 mins and you said you had your friend do that welding.. never mind.. Quality video!!
I take my hat off to you, subframe is a lot of work on any car. E46 is definitely one of the time consuming car subframe to do.
I got lucky when I bought my car, my good friend from Boostlogic in Austin Texas did my subframe and every single bushing in the rear of my M3. Then shipped my car to me
You definitely got lucky then. So much work...
Your demeanor says it all in every video. Great E46m3 content. 👍
C L thanks!
Really like ur channel. Nice M3. I’ve just finished doing this to mine, made exactly the same mistakes/errors of judgement, that u did. Took me forever to get the rear end bolted back onto the car. WTF were we thinking trying to bolt the whole rear end back on. But we learn by our mistakes, I bet you won’t do it that way again and ur pain isn’t in vain if somebody watches this and does it the easy way. Shugs.
Thanks. And yes no way will I do it that way again. Like you said, we learn from our mistakes. But that’s part of the process.
Great video and fantastic tips, I myself have a e46 m3 and have done for many years, on visual inspection no cracks but who knows what lies underneath, Reddish motorsport here in the uk specialise in the subframe reinforcements so one day will no doubt visit them, this is way beyond my skill level what you just done. Fantastic to watch. 🏴👏🏻❤️
Thanks! I did a visual inspection on mine a while ago and couldn’t see anything either. So like you said, who knows what lies beneath. Thanks for watching!
Dude, you're honestly the best content creator that the e46 m3 chassis has. Videos are entertaining and informative. Keep it up man, you're great
Awesome man, I really appreciate that 🙏
Well done. Much respect for you to tackle this job. Had mine done by my mechanic. Finally decided this past year to move on from the E46 M3 for road track purposes. A lot of people are coming back saying they still are getting cracks in subframe mount points even after doing this update. That you need to reinforce the top half by connecting the mount points and reduce twisting. Mason bar and some other solutions available.
I decided to move on as it’s just too much of a hassle to sort this car out for track duty. They’re still awesome cars.
Thank you. And interesting, I hadn’t heard that. Will definitely look into it. What did you move to?
Well...I splurged and got a 987.2 Cayman S. I still miss my e46 M3.
Rick Lynn ooh nice choice! I’ve always been a Porsche fan first. Just couldn’t afford it. Yet 🤗
You could also look into the Vince bar from Vince Philstrom in Sweden. Stealthy install and redistribute the subframe load to more reinforced areas of the chassis. Nice work. I'm going to do this in the off season, won't have enough time to do this despite having all the parts.
It'll rust under the welds, should've coated the car with weld through primer before adding the reinforcement parts.
Nino Brown yea, if you used the car as a submarine I'd probably say you're right.
@@adamrugen1850 moisture finds its way through everything eventually
Good point. I don’t plan on driving it in the rain anyway. As much as I can help it at least.
Nino Brown out of curiosity, how do you add primer before you weld something? Wouldn’t the weld burn off any primer? Wouldn’t you put any rust protection after the welds? I’ve never welded a car before so I’m asking.
@@logicsfinest3471 there are special types of primer for this - it will burn through it as it has to. But it will secure the metal around it.
Google about these primers
You thought this was hard with a lift.... Did this laying on my back ... awesome video sir.
did this for my 330. had the car up on jack stands in my garage for a month... getting shivers just thinking about it...
Lol. Post traumatic stress.
Cool video. Nice to have you back.
Thanks man
Man, your rear axle carrier panel is in great shape! For a pretty high mileage car? Dayum.
I thought the same thing. Clean!
@@BlackFlagged I've got 80k miles on mine and it's in way worse shape. Visible cracks from the spot wolds around the sub-frame mounting points and a big one travelling up the fold in the floor panel. I think after the CSL in 2003 the changed some of the spot welds, or added more, because cars from 03 onward seem to be more solid.
@@gerardwalsh4724 that's a myth, all years crack and all years have rod bearing issues
man, this is excellent work! greetings from germany.
Thanks! Greetings from the US 👍
I love this video, I think it’ll help when I come to do this next summer, I’m still buying all the parts slowly
I love how projects that are so complicated look so easy on video. Lol but great video bro can’t wait for the next one
Haha thanks. That’s the magic of editing :)
Nice tip on the bushings 👍
Thanks. Can’t take all the credit from that, learned it from a friend.
O yes absolutly delighted you are back after your hiatus . Fantastic work on the m3 . Youll love it mine is very similar but with true rears and polybushs . Youll be addicted to driving again:)
Looking forward to driving the heck out it!
Best sub frame video ever
I’m about to do this on my e46! Subframe reinforcement plates and bushings!
You are doing amazing job, just wanted to tell you...i hope you will do more videos, i do my m3 as well by myself and i need people like you to show me what to do and how to do so thx and hope you are doing well ..peace
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that 🙏
Your videos gave me inspiration to work on my m3 myself. Awesome editing bro!
Thanks man!
Amazing video!! This is quality and what all car videos should be like!
Awesome, thanks!
Keep up the good work on your channel. The quality of your videos are amazing and your m3 is a beautiful car.
Thanks man, I appreciate that
Must feel good. You inspired me to get my subframe done by a mechanic and enjoy a cold beer in the meantime. 😅
Haha good choice!
First vid I watched and I like! I’ve also got a e46 coupe and need to do the rear end, this vid just helped me! Thx man keep it up..... ✌️
Great to hear, thanks!
Hey if you are not good at welding, you just have to be good at grinding !
Finally he’s back! Glad to see you’re doing well brother!
Thanks man!
That's my next big job on my E90. Get a spare subframe, derust it, paint it, then remove everything, replace ALL bushings, do some rustproofing on the underside, put it all back together. Can't say I'm looking forward to it but it has to be done.
love your videos (and rims); keep going!
Links to parts list? We all want to know of where to source great parts. Thanks! And fantastic job on the M3! Excellent vlog you got! And awesome content, with fantastic editing skills! You might just be the best E46 M3 channel on UA-cam! Keep up the great work. People like me appreciate you videos.
Thanks man, I really appreciate that! I’ll post a parts list soon 👍
Great video man that m3 is sick
Thank you!
It was hard...but rewarding! Awesome video! Thank you for sharing and putting all the time and effort on the video! Cheers
Thank you! Glad I was finally able to get it done!
what a beautiful car! I love the rims too!!
Thanks!
My birthday and I finally see you do this fudge yeah
Haha nice
How easy it is when you have a lift and don't have to crawl under your car on porous asphalt without a creeper, with 1' 1/2 of clearance and remove the subframe of an e46 at 35°C, piece by piece...
So yeah, I did what you did, but in far faaar worse conditions than you faced. It was tough, but not super hard
Appreciate what you have, cause it can always be worse
It’s not my lift, but belongs to a good friend. I still appreciate it though, because I don’t think I would have attempted this job without it.
Mate that is a very very nice e46. Exactly like mine except mine had same silver wheels. Was totalled in a head-on. Very sad. Good job. Absolutely love the car
Back and stronger👍nice. A lot of hard work!
Thanks! Yes definitely a lot of hard work.
Killer video as always. Great cinematography
Thanks man!
Definitely needed this video beyond thankful
Gotta add another comment.. those welds looking good my brother 👏🏾👏🏾
Doing this to my '10 550 thanks for the vid and the honesty.
Cool. You’re welcome.
In 2010 they were still having issues with cracks in subframes? I can't believe there hasn't been a recall or a class action law suit
best youtube video
Thanks!
Awesome work man , you could have made us hold our breath way more often I feel lol but I enjoyed it !
Haha thanks!
Wow. Bro.. U did an awesome job.. Well done.
great video quality, appreciate the time it takes you
Thanks!
Wow, that takes passion. Amazing.
👌
Happy for you, man.
Thanks man
Love this channel.
And he back boissss yeee love the vid can’t wait for the next
Haha thanks!
Excellent vid !!
Good contents, keep moving
Thanks!
Spot on great vid good info and the editing is great
Thanks!
I've done this myself and it's a bitch of a job, hats off buddy for a great video. Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your videos 😁😁😁
Haha yes it is! And thanks man, I appreciate that.
Welcome Back!
Thanks!
Killed it! Good work man
Thanks!
Brooo Great Job I think this is one of your best Videos yet and definitely one of the best videos showing how to do this job on your own. I might take on this challenge as well on mines!!
Thanks bro! I really appreciate that! 💪
@@BlackFlagged I will be starting the journey on UA-cam my self here soon on my e46 M3 and N54 335is keep the great content coming and stay blessed!
Very impressive video, great work thanks man!
You’re welcome, and thanks for the comment.
Do you feel a difference with the bushings? NVH?
It's an easy job🤔🐘📐, and shouldn't be dirty using a lift🤗🤙☕🔨
Good video!!! Subscribed!
Thanks!
Dude you’re videos are awesome attention to details is awesome I’m doing a pretty insane E30’s build now located in south Florida as well hope to run into you sometime would love to see the car
Killing it
Thanks!
keep it up love your videos
The heat is actually expanding the metal around the bushing
Put all the diff bolts in first before they are nipped up
Great video
Great Video, thanks!
Thanks!
What was the reason of removing one layer of metal (the 3 drilled holes in trunk and cut the top layer out) just to weld it again? Was there anything added there?
Good job on video and mechanicals
Thanks!
Amazing video thanks for sharing!! 🙌
Thanks and you’re welcome!
Good job
The differential install is incorrect and possibly what attributed to the front bolt stripping. The front bolt and two rear bolts should be threaded hand tight and then the front bolt is to be torqued first (correct torque spec is 148 ft/lb) followed by the two rear bolts (correct tightening sequence is 15 ft/lb followed by a 90* angle torque).
Good to know, thanks. I can’t remember the exact order I really did it, this is just how I put the edit together. But thank you for the tip 👍
Can I ask you where you get from these amazing glasses? They look so cool!
Thx very much for the video. I like this
Thanks and you’re welcome!
Well...
I guess I will wait til my subframe fails and just let insurance total it.
Awesome video but I doubt I can knock that out.
Lol good plan
Hey, thanks for the great video! What thread are the brake lines?
Can do it as it’s my daily but I had my Indy shop do it. Now I am having high engine noise faults on the BMW computer so I am thinking it’s the rod bearings.
Oh no, let me know if you find out what it is.
Hate to say this, but plating is not enough. The only certain way to do this, is to tie the subframe mounts into the chassis legs. The plates only move the stress to other places that will fail.
I’ll look that up, thanks for the comment 👌
Which Color is this car? Looks really clean.
Wow what a big job, dread doing this. Will you do your bearings?
One day, yes. But not for a while.
How did you strip the diff bolt. Did you upsize to m16 or helicoil?
Good information
Thanks
Dude, you have sparks flying everywhere inside the car during your welding and grinding !!
Why didn't you cover the upholstery ?
I bet there's burn holes everywhere now..
I know I thought of that as soon as I was done. Thankfully I checked everything and there were no burn holes.
Is this an issue with pre 05 year cars
good video but there's a reason BMW put somewhat squishy bushes and not solid as a rock Acetyl in there and reinforcing the body is good, but only shifts the problem to the next weakest point on an already marginal body design. the English boys - Beamish do loads of videos on the topic. a little anal yes but thorough. your style is great and a very informative easy to follow format.
Gooooooddstuff ✌️
Thanks! ✌️
awesome.......I would hire you as my mechanic
Так держать!
What press tool did you use during this video?
This is the one i ended up using for everything except the diff mounts: 8MILELAKE 23 Piece FWD Front... www.amazon.com/dp/B016W4LHZ4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
The one I used for the diff mounts is just one I rented from the auto parts store before I bought the one above
What rims are those?
Fifteen52 Formula GT. I’m not sure if they make them anymore 😕
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This is such a common issue on e46 m3's why hasn't it ever been part of a recall?
Because Bmw as a brand is shit
Omw
Nice video 👌👍 SUBBED ⚠️
Thank you!
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