CPU Bach: A retro game for music nerds

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2023
  • One of the most unusual video games of all history, created by one of the most influential video game developers of all time, Sid Meier. The game composes music in the style of J.S. Bach.
    Alex Vaughan - www.alex-vaughan.com
    #composition #musictheory #Bach #retrogaming

КОМЕНТАРІ • 35

  • @ScoreCircuit
    @ScoreCircuit  11 місяців тому +20

    If you'd like to try the game out for yourself this is best done using an emulator manager such as LaunchBox.

    • @ComradeToeKnee
      @ComradeToeKnee 10 місяців тому

      Where exactly can we find the game itself?

    • @Garlicbloom
      @Garlicbloom 9 місяців тому

      Where get game?

    • @untitileduser9553
      @untitileduser9553 9 місяців тому +1

      Where can I get that shirt u were wearing🤣

    • @alicewyan
      @alicewyan 9 місяців тому +1

      @@untitileduser9553 you wouldn't download a shirt!

  • @bachBMV147
    @bachBMV147 11 місяців тому +15

    6:21 when the music teacher looks at my music theory assignment.

  • @laurenlofton9039
    @laurenlofton9039 11 місяців тому +17

    Oh I get it. Like CPE Bach. Clever name.

  • @bachBMV147
    @bachBMV147 11 місяців тому +52

    I wish there was an algorithm that produces music in the style of Rachmaninoff...

    • @ScoreCircuit
      @ScoreCircuit  11 місяців тому +27

      There was! It was a program developed by David Cope but was never released to the public: ua-cam.com/video/chWdFoRHEr0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ScoreCircuit

  • @unownnnn
    @unownnnn 11 місяців тому +33

    Great video! Funny how it probably does a better job of composition than most new era AI marketing hype

    • @tristanyokom1542
      @tristanyokom1542 11 місяців тому +5

      That's cause modern AI uses machine learning as opposed to just being a set algorithm

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 9 місяців тому +1

      Think of it like learning to cook a specific dish by looking at many pictures of it in its finished state, versus reading a cookbook. Sure, the examples might give you an idea of what the visible ingredients are and how they've been prepared and combined, but you have no way of knowing for-sure what the exact process to arrive at that result is. You would then have to try many different combinations of cooking methods, time, and heat level before finally finding one that gets you approximately the result you want. Even then, it won't be a perfect reproduction, and you still won't know exactly how the original chef created the original dish. That is how a machine learning model learns. An algorithm negates the need for learning, as it simply follows the recipe in the cookbook and produces the expected result.

  • @Phantasma999
    @Phantasma999 11 місяців тому +10

    Yes, it should be released to the public. It sure is really impressive

  • @valentinzwerschke
    @valentinzwerschke 11 місяців тому +9

    what a great channel!!! Just found you and you're awesome!

  • @adamiotime
    @adamiotime 11 місяців тому +5

    I hate how genius the name is. CPU Bach. Gah!

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet 11 місяців тому +10

    If there is one positive thing about music, speaking "art music" here, not getting the attention it deserves, is that they do not seem to apply the AI craze to music-making as fervently as they are to other things. Well, it is positive in that we still need/want composers. As I mentioned previously, I _do_ wish they would put a little more effort into music scanning abilities. There is a *_lot_* of public-domain music to be experienced.
    Enjoyed the dive here.

  • @andreaswolffmusic
    @andreaswolffmusic 11 місяців тому +4

    Love the shirt (as always)! :D Wow, it’s truly impressive. To think about that this generator is 30 years old. Thanks for making a video about this “game”!

  • @lftkryo
    @lftkryo 10 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this. The shirt is great too.

  • @Spezifischable
    @Spezifischable 8 місяців тому +1

    True. Why hasn’t this been rereleased with better sound quality. Can’t be that expensive.

  • @charlesgreenberg6956
    @charlesgreenberg6956 11 місяців тому +4

    the only 3do game i own

  • @detri-codes
    @detri-codes 11 місяців тому +7

    Where do I begin with learning more about classical tonality and its rules? I don't quite understand what's bad about parallel 5ths or octaves, or where the rule about needing to step back after leaps came from. I'm really interested in learning everything I can about that.
    I've always wanted to write a music generation algorithm, but I don't know enough about tonal rules to have it do anything melodically interesting like this.
    Tone.js seemed like a fun library to do something like this in the browser but I think I'd prefer to make something that outputs MIDI.

    • @doritoburrito4540
      @doritoburrito4540 11 місяців тому +4

      i don't know too much about classical music myself, but to my understanding parallel 5ths are only 'bad' when writing counterpoint, because they break the individuality of the given melodic lines. moving in parallel 5ths or octaves makes the lines sound like one voice instead of multiple voices. the leaps i don't know how to explain, but not stepping back kinda just doesn't sound right.
      the best way to learn is to just use different resources that interest you. theres not really a single good entry point when it comes to learning music, you just have to pick somewhere yourself and follow a rabbit hole of your choosing, accepting that there will be some things that you don't understand. watch or read enough and you start to get the bigger picture.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 10 місяців тому +1

      Parallel fifths and octaves are bad, because all music has counterpoint, regardless of style, or how much you wish to ignore it.
      Specifically, parallel fifths, unisons and octaves are bad, when they occur between two voices, and one of the voices gets eliminated by the parallel motion.
      Due to how the very form of music is generated by the voices present in music, one of them randomly disappearing, is not much different from ripping out part of a page from a novel, it can have varying effects on the form, but all are negative.
      To recognize the effect, you simply have to train your ears to recognize contrapunctal voices, and form.

    • @amaice
      @amaice 10 місяців тому

      @@Whatismusic123 what about jazz solis

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 10 місяців тому

      @@amaice yeah

    • @Terpsichorean-oj8vc
      @Terpsichorean-oj8vc 7 місяців тому

      Start with partimento. Check out The Art of Partimento by Sanguinetti and anything by Gjerdingen.

  • @roskelld
    @roskelld 7 місяців тому

    Just read about this in Sid Meter’s book and wanted to check it out.

  • @ivoryrick7734
    @ivoryrick7734 11 місяців тому +4

    Man, what a channel. Glad it exists. I recently started music school and have never felt as passionate about music as I have now. Keep the superb content coming! Also, great shirt, would love to have one 😂

  • @MosesM514
    @MosesM514 11 місяців тому +1

    I really hope this comes out ported for windows.

  • @idanimation1638
    @idanimation1638 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey, I'm a new viewer! I really enjoy your content, and I really want to learn theory. How do you recommend learning?

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv 8 місяців тому

    Aaarrrghhh want ❤

  • @ramnaftaliavni6532
    @ramnaftaliavni6532 6 місяців тому +2

    How did you get the C.P.U Bach to work?
    I launched it with LaunchBox, but the "classics" section is locked, and I can't change the ratios of piano:basson for example (1:33)

  • @cdifreakguy
    @cdifreakguy 10 місяців тому

    5:08 I see what you did there