The Breakfast Club Reacts To The Death Of PnB Rock
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Charlamagne was 100% correct. Stop wishing things were different and live in reality. If you have, stay away from the have nots. Flexing that you're in the hood is never the correct choice.
This the one! Social media has made people lose touch with reality. The real world has predators and we have to adapt.
Exactly
WORD!!
I agree. Times have changed so we have to change with the times. We have to move different. Sadly.
Facts. And Envy is talking from a point of a have not a have not.
Angela Yee is right. A lot of times these guys in the streets arent starving or desperate. They just want to live the street life and want the clout from being known to be in the streets.
That’s why as a culture we have to stop embracing the streets and folks in the streets so much.
RIP to PnP Rock
Exactly! I been saying this smh these ppl aren’t doing this on a survival mentality, it’s literally to flex & get some clout. Killing ppl for clout is a real thing now smh
An how she know she a man or in thr street shut up bozo
It's all about money wtf
Rich people = scam
Poor people = kill rich people
Bro What a fuked up logic 😂
@@RealisticWonderKid it ain’t all about money. Plenty of people join gangs and brag about crimes they’ve committed for reputation and clout.
You just naive if you don’t know that.
My brother and I were having a conversation like this a month ago after someone went into his truck and tossed all his stuff around looking for something to steal. They didn’t break any windows, he left his door unlocked. He says he should be able to leave his doors unlocked if he wants to because he worked hard for his stuff, but I told him, that’s true, you SHOULD be able to, but that’s not the reality we live in fam.
You SHOULD be able to flap your arms and fly or fart and go to Mars and back safely. Unfortunately, the laws of physics disagree. Criminology ain't physics, but I'm pretty sure it has a pretty relevant branch called Victimology.
Facts do that shit on bet awards show or something not ina hood
We should be able to live how we want regardless of how things are. Do that and for some that made the world a better place by some measure.
He leaves his doors unlocked because he doesn’t leave any valuables and he doesn’t want the chances of his window being busted window
I agree with both, but rappers get robbed with or without jewellery on.
I’m from Philly, we don’t have a lot of people who make it out the hood. To lose PNB Rock hurts bad.
Lots of people make it out from Philly there’re just not celebrities
@@goldenopportunity31 Dude just talking
@@goldenopportunity31 he’s talking about public figures the world knows and millionaires….do you understand context?
Tons of black men and women made out the roughest sections of Philly. They went to school got thier education and left. It's more successful black men and women other than Rappers and Athletes. But the black community doesn't celebrate this.
Rip to that young man . Tragic 🙏🏼
Its really easy to blame the jewelry or blame gf or blame social media. There’s alot that can be said but I think people underestimate the moral corruption that is developing among ppl. It’s people out here knocking old ladies in the head with hammers in the subway for a purse that may or may not have money in it. Senseless violence is at an all time high because ppl have NO EMPATHY
Speak on it please 🗣💯
I feel like society is almost rewarding sociopathic behavior these days.
Dis shit been going on for decades. Social media just gives u a front seat to it. If u from the hood dis is a daily occurrence
This why I work hard so I can live in a nice neighborhood in a nice house that's really comfortable inside so I can stay inside and stay away from the crazies.
@@jocelyncooper1738 they normalize it as just being a way of survival..it’s sick
Hip Hop was defined as Peace Unity Love and Having Fun. These wicked record labels saw us coming together because of it. Gangsta Rap was formed, glorifying the disrespect of our women, smoking your brother and so here we are. BUT THAT WAS NOT THE START OF HIP HOP. We spoke of what was going on in our communities. We corrected each other, supported each other.
As a youth, I used to live in Long Beach across the street from the milk dairy on California Street, known now as MLK, St. I currently live in The Valley/Los Angeles area. I don't wear jewelry in certain places because I want to live. PNB Rock was in a "VERY BAD" area, which is considered the Belly of the Beast. Also, I grew up in Long Beach, by Kings Park, down the street from Snoop, The Twins, and Warren G. I was never afraid of the gang members back in my day. Actually, they were a form of protection for me. But, this is a differnet world now. We have to make better decisions and strategic moves with efforts to stay safe, and that pertains to where ever you live or go. I am in agreement with Charlmagne and his PERSPECTIVE ON THIS ISSUE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My prayers and condolences goes to his two little girls, friends, fans and family. Rest in peace, Rock. This situation is beyond pathetic and so sad. I am so tired of this. Everyone, please protect your families and continue to stay safe and healthy. God Bless, from an elder ❤🙏
I don’t understand out of all the Roscoes he went there. He was better off going to the one in Pasadena. I’m from Cali too
@@MsToni-cy3in He wasn't familiar with the area. They probably hopped off the freeway saw Roscoe's and decided to go there. There's another one about 4 miles west in Inglewood but if you're unaware of the area, what do you do? At 1pm on a Monday that intersection looks different than 1pm on a Satuday. We should be able to move around as we please, where what we want. But living here in LA myself, I learned from an early age where to wear what. Reppin' my favorite baseball team almost cost my life at 16 years old. This whole lifestyle is pathetic and sad like you said. Makes no sense what our people doing to each other.
@@MsToni-cy3in EXACTLY!! A much more safer and beautiful environment. I am lost for words!
@@TroySupermanGentle I totally agree with you. That makes a lot of sense. But, I am sure most of us would know a bad area when we see one. 🤔 It is a jungle out here! I am glad you made it out of your situation. Continue to stay safe n healthy, my friend.
@@TroySupermanGentle yes I agree with you 100% we should be able to go anywhere but like CTG said that’s not reality.
Charlemagne 100% right we can’t control what people do but we can control our actions to take preventive measures
This was actually a really good talk, they haven't been in the spirit like this in a while.
I recall one brother saying..."if you got it and I don't, somebody is not making it home." It was the most asinine, ignorant, pathetic cluster of words I've ever heard. Actually it infuriated me! Instead of going through the trials and tribulations of getting off your ass and work, you rather take from others.
Crazy
And just to think, as an evolved species, we live in an environment full of primal scenarios, motivations and actions... It's not race, it's not culture, it's primal ignorance with a core of pure evolved wickedness...
and if someone don't make it home, he's going to hell! I hope it's worth it for him.
The older I get, the more I realize that this world keeps getting worse!! Losing him like that is simply wrong! You can't have anything without people coming for what you've worked so hard for
You trippin. Americans use to get payed for skinning the scalps of native Americans. And that’s just one small example of violence in America. Violence is the lowest it’s ever been amongst people in the American land.
Exactly this world is in the end times pure evil.
There are good places in the world. Every place is not the hood.
Absolutely
The world has gotten a lot better tbh..
There was a lot more barbaric stuff back in the day.. Just take the Romans for instance..
Along with having cures to diseases and more food..
That couldn't be the farthest thing from the truth to be honest but I do see what you're trying to say
“If you can’t afford to protect what you have, you cant afford to have it…” FACT
I’m with Charlemagne on this one. I say it ALL the time…it’s not just about how things SHOULD be…it’s how things ARE!!! Move accordingly!!! RIP PNB 🙏🏾
Pop Smoke wasn’t in the hood when he was attacked. Nipsey was bringing positivity and buying back the hood.
I wonder if white folks have move accordingly conversations in their neighborhoods
Well, unlike our community, when they leave a bad or messed up situation or environment they dip and don’t look back. They don’t feel a sense of obligation or need to “Be with their people in the hood.”.
I remember the Game a couple years back talked about the moment that made him say “f*** this, I’m out!!!” And leave his hood. He said a drive by happened (I think he was the target even) and although he was ok, that shit hit his kid’s car seat dead in the headrest. SMH, he was hella lucky but that shouldn’t have been the reason. Mind you, this happened when the Game started poppin during “The Documentary” days…
Take the world as it is not as you’d like it to be, PERIOD!!!
Facts
"How they are" 💯
Another Contemporary Legend Lost To Hate and Jealousy.
A True PHILLY LEGEND #rippnb 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Rip PnB, But LEGEND??? Stop..
Who even is he?
@@adamantinerebelle7578 It’s legendary that a black man made it out of the hood to make away for his family. I’m from Philly, the rough parts And to see a young man come from where I’m from to make a way to feed his family is legendary for me.
Charlemagne is absolutely correct! This is our reality unfortunately.
So we know the problem. What do we do to change it? Shouldn't be the reality. Should aspire to be better always.
This is our culture. Accept it because we glorify the silliest thing in our culture. We support no snitching, killing, robbing, codeine, drug dealing, womanizing. We call it art though and freedom of expression.
Exactly.
And see, some of us as a people don’t wanna accept it. All this rhetoric will go out the window the next rap song that comes on the radio. Charla talking about systematic racism is only half the problem. A lack of accountability is the other half.
@@MrPiccalo3000 "This beat sleaps though!"
😬🍵💯
On the next episode of Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Mob Wives, and Growing Up Gotti.
Bro i feel for unc Charlemagne man…its hard when you’re tryna talk the truth and no one is even listening 🤦🏾♂️ Everyone just wants to argue man. Does anyone go to mexico and do whatever they want on cartel territory?? no because its not smart. We SHOULD be able to go and live life care free but the reality is we have to understand our surroundings and know not everyone has your well being in mind🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Right
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You can't just walk in a lion's den with pork chop draws 🤷
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My condolences and prayers to his family.
Yes
100% CTG is on point. Its using logic while staying alive.
Is he right making excuses for criminals?
When you think about it, Charla’s point almost sounds like we shouldn’t be offended when white women clutch onto their purses when black ppl walk by or locking their car doors when we walk past or keep loss provention on us in the stores…
@@bxi1547 giving free game. If its back in the day when KKK and racist people were killing black people in an area would you try to go "hang out"? Or would you wait until those places get legally segregated and less dangerous? The answer is simple
@@doesntmatter6453 this is a black community issue centered around misaligned priorities and complete display of moral bankruptcy. SyStEmAtIc RaCiSm could be expunged tomorrow and there would still be events taking place like this. folks are lazy nowadays, dont want to work, want fast money, and glorify gang culture. theres no one to blame. the caller who brought up Angie Library gig was right. This aint ab yts.
Charlamagne Always gonna excuse the criminals and try to deflect and blame the victim. Dude is a 🤡
Like yes, a lot of things could've been avoided. But stop excusing these criminals that be doing this dumb shit. I'm glad dude called him out for that too...cause I was just saying that. He tried to hold his feet to the fire...but then Charlamagne talking about lack of opportunities....like that excuse why they killing. TF?? Then he tried to group us all in this shit...like Bruh...yes there are systematic shit going on...but that doesn't give ppl a reason to act this way dude. Cmon now. SMH!
Our communities will continue to have these issues until the “men” of our communities start taking these criminals out of our communities
It’s a cycle though. I think CTG and Envy was missing each other’s valid points. CTG failed to see that even if it is reality doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be shamed. Envy was not seeing that even if you SHOULD be able to do something freely doesn’t mean it is wise to do.
EXACTLY
Bruh is the GENERATION!! Everybody think they are a GANGSTER
The community needs FATHERS. I always ask when there’s a crime with young people. WHERE ARE YOUR PARENTS???
@@projectdan3369 That’s a start.
i never heard of this rapper but he didn't deserve to lose his life so tragically
Charlemagne is the voice of reason. I agree with him completely.
I agree with him to a degree. I don’t like how he automatically jumps to the systemic poverty thing. He doesn’t know what those people’s motives were. I agree there’s is poverty that causes crime but so do just regular evil people.
@@mars8923 Exactly. Even Charlemagne's solutions of "just hiring security" only perpetrates the problems and worsens the divide. Hiring security is not the solution. We need to all get together, sit down, and address the sin in our hearts. The greatest issue is our sin. It gets no higher than this. We're all screwing up.
There’s two conversations we are trying to have at the same time.
Yes, let’s move accordingly in the unfortunate reality we live in…
ALSO, many of us are too used to degeneracy and violence..we never address the real problem so it continues to get worse.
“If you can’t afford to protect it, you can’t afford to wear it.” Take notes. Many rappers have died over chains/cars
We’ll they are praising gold over god, also almost every rapper that got smoked have been wearing the star ring, same ring pac wore when robbed and shot at quad. If these rappers were so hood and street smart, they would know not to go to south central LA especially if they mot from there
with this whole Black Lives Matter trend be glad in 2003 my hispanic female rap musician friend did not reveal this same information that people are using as an excuse to commit recent Anarchy.
What does this have to do with PNB rock death?
This society makes it seem like it is a black-on-black crime but a lot of times many shady white people and hispanic do be studying blacks who appear successful or getting by only to sabotage them.
A friend of mine who's African American and lives in Portland, Oregon collects bottles and cans for $$$ with each can, plastic, or glass bottle costing 0.10c a piece to cash in. Since he was doing it for 10 years he's had mostly white people question him sometimes even attempted to attack him over it. He witness many whites recycle to make money and there were never any problems until he started collecting and recycling.
Just remember the white people were the ones studying these probably black teenagers on youtube and social media shaking their asses until they came across the Twerk team and took that name and now a person shaking their ass is now a big thing. Remember blacks do not own mainstream media and Bill Cosby began suffering his troubles when he attempted to buy CBS.
I swear people do not get it when it comes to true current racism.
I agree with everybody. A rapper with money SHOULD be able to go wherever they want and not be touched BUT that’s not the reality of really anybody not just rich people. People should be able to post their location and not come back to find their house robbed BUT that’s not our reality. Sadly. Our community needs therapy, help and guidance. This was so unnecessary.
Exactly. And just give it up and buy another also its what insurance is for!!!!!
Most rappers are former drug dealers and former gang bangers. Most rappers rap about killing and dying. Rappers dying is not something you can stop or control.
Yes!
I did not like the victim blaming during the segment, PNB was not bothering anyone.
@@genius179 sadly 😥 he was killed senselessly
When your that famous you can’t just pull up anywhere without security not dissing the hood but it’s just the reality fr fr RIP pnb y’all gotta protect y’all self 😢😢😢😢
Facts!
Man f$ck the hood. You don’t owe them anything
You should be dissing the hood! That shit is trash af! This man shooter about to get life for trying to be hard and rob a singer! That shit so azz backwards
Big facts! I live close to where this happened and my first thought when i heard it was wft was he doing at that place? Eating? Makes no sense lack of awareness. There food is trash af anyway he could have grubhub’d that shit fr
Why not? Rixh white people can move without security
This was a great debate/discussion!
To my black kings out there if someone have the drop on you just give it up. Your ego and pride isn’t worth your life 💯💯
How about hit them in the head after you give it up.
STOP CALLING THEM KINGS
@@redstar4691 ??
@@greatone9102 Its just the truth
Sad thing about that they probably will still kiil u but I totally agree with you
Charlemagne has a point but unfortunately we’ve seen you can get killed in your own neighborhood even if you’re just trying to give back and not flaunt your wealth, we have to address the bigger issue in our communities
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I’m with Charlemagne 100%. Even with the systemic oppression tactics in place, you just have to move accordingly given this harsh reality. There’s no, it shouldn’t be this and that…IT IS THIS AND THAT and that’s all one needs to know to move right. If you wanna be truly FREE, the rap lifestyle and luxuries that comes with it is not part of God’s Law and neither is jewelry. There is a grey area but it seems only artists like J. Cole knows how to operate within it. Change will happen when we stop glorifying the wrong things.
Your right yes indeed
Absolutely well stated!!!
It is truly shocking to watch DJ envy not understand how there will always be envious people in this world.
Ironic because his name is literally “DJ Envy”. Why use a name when you don’t fully understand the definition and meaning behind it?
But that don't give people the right to kill someone, nor an excuse to do so.
@@Primo-on6fc I agree, but that’s not the point though. Reality is people like this think they have the right to do whatever they want.
Always be envious people , grimy
Live in reality , should of and shouldn’t have to don’t matter! Charlamange only one living in reality
Charlamagne is correct! Every hood OG would tell you stop going back to the block! There’s always that one person who hating on your accomplishments. Yes you should be able to move accordingly, but when you make it you can’t move the same. Everybody say 50 can’t go back to the hood, no he smart to have security 24/7 when moving!
“Hood OG” this type of language and thinking is the root of the problem. What tf is a original gangsta. Why is that celebrated 😂 or looked at as ideal.
@@Baker19911 because they have more street smarts and they know how the system operates because they have been through it all ..
Senseless!! 😤😤 Rest In Power Rock!! Everyday we live, we still lit!! 🕊️💐💯🔥
It’s a cold, dark and sad world we’re currently living in. Envy, greed and pure hatred is all.
judgement coming very soon, I hope these niggas got their sob story ready.
That 3rd caller said the absolute truth. Some men just want to see the world burn.💯💯💯
You guys are all correct, as my grandparents use to say, "it's not what you do but how you do it ".
@Illuminati Tv as I stated, it's not what you do but how you do it . The duality of life is how you move in society will either make or break you... your choice.
I have to agree with CTG. You can't be stunting on the hood and think everything sweet; it ain't.
@Milly facts people are trying to be so tough now security guards why Don't rapper's have security guards
CTG is 100% correct. These rappers know when they are out in public, they know it's a legit jungle and it's grimey out here. This convo made me think back to Kendrick Lamar's song "Institutionalized" the 2nd Verse is literally the mindset of most of these dudes out here that are in these jungles waiting to catch someone slipping. It's sad he lost life over something replaceable because someone wanted something they could work for. But this proves the point of once people get money, they move away from the hood
I was thinking the same exact thing. We’ll said
yep so true the verse say Institutionalized I could still kill me a ni**a, so what?
He don’t make sense… Most people just get robbed.. They are murdering people for wearing jewelry at this point.. It makes no sense.. I understand being robbed but I wouldn’t think someone would want to kill me for wearing my necklace.. It makes no sense
@@mackworldo.n.e9632 there’s always gonna be good and there’s always gonna be evil.. both evil and good has no skin color
Charlamagne Always gonna excuse the criminals and try to deflect and blame the victim. Dude is a 🤡
Like yes, a lot of things could've been avoided. But stop excusing these criminals that be doing this dumb shit. I'm glad dude called him out for that too...cause I was just saying that. He tried to hold his feet to the fire...but then Charlamagne talking about lack of opportunities....like that excuse why they killing. TF?? Then he tried to group us all in this shit...like Bruh...yes there are systematic shit going on...but that doesn't give ppl a reason to act this way dude. Cmon now. SMH!
Charlamagne is spitting facts totally agree with everything you said.
MY MOMMA ALWAYS SAID WHERE THERES A WILL THERES A WAY. WHEN THERES NO WAY THERES ALWAYS AN EXCUSE 💯 RIP PnB Rock you aint deserve this man. The man never bothered nobody smh
Charlamagne and DJ Envy both made valid points from similar but different perspectives. So sick of all the evil in this world. That’s basically all it is is demons and our people being controlled by em.
Agreed both perspectives are necessary
That's the thing...they're both correct and both stances need to be addressed
@@supastar25 agreed
You gotta work for what you get,and where much is given
Much is truly required.
RIP
And whatever you do ALWAYS move in silence cause there’s way too many haters on this earth
Even with blood also
Fax💯💯
So true!!
"If you can't afford to wear it, you can't afford to protect it." I felt that.
I think you got that backwards
If u can't afford to protect it.... then u can't afford to wear it...😉
Both statements are true
Just saying
And why was he not strapped?
The TOP issue is y’all keep saying “for some jewelry” that’s not just jewelry that’s a lottery ticket
Why do Envy KEEP GOING BACK to what you SHOULD be able to do in the hood with your jewelry etc. Yes, we get what we SHOULD be able to do. The issue is what Charlemagne is saying. Let’s deal with the way it actually is NOW and not what we’d like it to be.
Amen! I really don't get why he wants to floss in front of people who are starving. It's common sense that even animals have. They don't go where danger is
@@longshotsmedia exactly!
Because this isn't just happening in the hood, because rappers getting killed for chains isn't the issue. Regular people are getting killed for nothing. Donkey of the day a few weeks ago went to a man that killed another man because his momma got cold fries from Mickey Ds. Like what??? Even if say a jewelry shouldn't be worn in the hood, you can't act like killing people at their place of employment is okay
classic "In theory vs reality" dynamic he's missing. In theory everything should be a way, but that's not how reality is
Man has been living good for too long.
It doesn’t matter what you SHOULD be able to do. You gotta be extra careful in these streets
Kendrick warned us about callin this our “Culture” smh
FINALLY. The community is finally talking about the real issue
That 3rd caller in the first segment was correct, we can’t keep blaming “systemic” issues, this is a cultural problem. Pop smoke was at his house in the suburbs and got killed in his own home. There is opportunity out there, people need to seek it.
Facts
I agree with Charla, but you're absolutely right, that 3rd caller was correct too... and Charla kinda dismissed his point. Yes, we have been put at a disadvantage systematically, but there are also plenty of opportunities that we did not have in the past that are very much so available today. We cannot simply continue blame this on the system. It's just that a lot of people don't want to work for it, and see it as easier to just take it from the next person. I know many people, raised in poverty, who overcame hurdles to make it out. It starts with education. Tell these kids the truth... not everybody can be a millionaire, live in a mansion, and have nice cars... Not everyone can be a rapper or an athlete. Kill the jealousy and envy at young... and stop the idolization of celebrities, and social media stars. This is causing the drive for them to steal what they THINK they can't have or work for. Also, a lot of mainstream rap glorifies violence, but no one wants to talk about that part. These stations will continue to play these peoples music, and they still get bookings to do shows etc. Then we have to continuously have conversations like this... surrounding X rappers death. It's a vicious cycle that won't end.
one of the few comments on here telling the truth, but nobody wants to be held accountable. they don't mind pretending this is ok and saying "rip" every week when another rapper is gunned down in cold blood.
@@ShortOne20 exactly.
I agree with Charlamagne, some hoods you just shouldn’t go. And I agree with the jewelry thing, it be too much.
Yeah but that's irrelevant Pop Smoke got killed in a mansion in a high end neighborhood. These lil savages will go anywhere to get what they want. It doesn't matter where you are, I think for now all artists should just leave that expensive shit at home, roll with more security, or both. Because this is happening way too often.
@@DaygoG nah if you flash expensive stuff in the hood you a walking target
@@CamPerry obviously, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying these lil scum bags in LA don't even care where it's at. They'll follow you into a fancy hotel lobby and line you up if they want. Location is irrelevant.
The opportunities are there I promise you. I grew up in LA and Compton. It's decision making and the shit we glorify.
Da god the only one who makes sense in this conversation
Per usual
There is no excuse or reason for someone to lose their life over property. Until our community can destroy this crabs in a barrel mentality these senseless acts of violence will continue to happen.
R.I.P. PnB Rock 😢
It will never stop..read The Bell Curve....the best thing a functioning productive Black person can do is leave the Black 'community'
failed a long time ago because it's not stopping. $20 an hour can't get you the smallest apartment in Los Angeles. Life not that important to these poeple, it's easier to do crime and fall into the sinkhole when the living conditions are this way.
@@9xrumi362 For YEARS AND YEARS, you could not give property away in South Central and to a lesser extent, East L.A... property was pennies on the dollar .... now they are crying about 'gentrification' ... well, how about those MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars that went through the hood and were spent on low-lows.. jewelry.. clothes.. shoes..parties etc etc ... shoulda been buying real estate...
What do you think war is about? People Lossing their lives over land, oil wealth which in reality is property it's not just our people it's all of mankind.
This crabs in a barrel mentality is the mentality of the world countries invade other countries to possess their wealth their land and their people it's not just the Black community.
I'm with CTG 100% on this! I'm from the hood, deep rooted but I hardly go to my old hood. When I do, my head is on a swivel and I'm LOOKING for the BS! I don't flash but, my vehicles are my vehicles but even still, I drive my everyday car down there and not my weekend vehicles. It's a shame that I have to do it but, the REALITY IS, that is what I have to do!
I'm from LA and not to many ppl in LA would pull up to roscoes on main and Manchester... it's surrounded by like 4 different major gangs... plus it's hard to get in and get out because it's a small parking lot
People not from LA won’t understand. I’m from Westside south central. Growing up never went to the east side. Everyone know it’s super grimey over there. It’s a deadzone.
At first I thought he was from out of town and just didn’t know where he was at. But after listening to an interview where he talks about going to watts and hanging in different hoods he knew exactly where he was at.
No reason to take your square girl to no shit like that.
@@danieltaylor567 you can tell ctg don't know where in LA it was at he said Inglewood
Yeah I used to stay off Main and 97th. And I still went to the other Roscoe's le brea
so why is it opened??
@@lateshashampree Because people need food to eat. It’s just not in an area I suggest any sane reasonable human being should visit
This has to stop in our community, this too tiring and tragic.... R. I.P. 🙏🏿I PRAY his family gets right support 🙏🏿
No you need to be praying that the black community get their crap together and stop making excuses for these criminals.
Never an excuse for anyone take someone’s life or harm them for something that isn’t yours period. You can understand it all you want but that has to stop. Not needing to stop people for buying and wearing what they spent their money for. It’s like you’re trying to change the behavior of the wrong group. Who’s behavior do you want to change?
I'm with Char on this. If You Can't Afford To Protect Then You Don't Need To Buy It.
exactly!
Nah bruh that's dumb ... You should be able to enjoy your shit
Buy what you want, don’t flash it in front of people that can’t afford it because it provokes jealousy and unfortunately ends in tragedy. Do you see Jay-Z eating at a McDonalds near Marcy Projects??
@@StopSelfDoubting it totally agree, however I think people like DJ envy were holding killers accountable period. You can't use "systematic" issues or the whyte man as an excuse forever. I'm sure he's not going to the local McDonalds in the projects somewhere.
Rest in peace PNB We are heartbroken 💔💔🌷🌷💔💔💔💔💔💔
Why do we even have this type of conversation anymore? We stay doing this every time a rapper dies yet black on black killings are higher than they ever has been in the history of our existence. This conversation isn’t getting heard by the killers at all
This
Source, on it being the highest its ever been
Do you have the black on black crime stats or are you just assuming that?
@@hueyfreeman5509 black males are 6% population but account for almost half the homicides in America
@@Baker19911 Prove it
LA native here! To everyone visiting famous or not famous - This is not the time to come out here and venture out by yourself like that. If you’re not from here don’t go roaming around the city with no security. There are like 3 Roscoe’s in LA and nobody goes to the one he was at. I agree with Charlamgne’s point however, we do have a cultural problem and people should be able to go wherever they want and have lunch with their girl and not fear for their life. What happened to rock is old tall tail that happens in my city everyday. At this point the systematic excuse is old and people today have resources to choose to do something different. There’s a lot of jobs and resources out there but people don’t want to work! They see a false perception on social media and rather find a quicker way to get money. Don’t let the palm trees and sunshine fool you! LA is not safe right now don’t come to Beverly Hills, melrose/ fairfax, Santa Monica, essentially any part of the city being flashy thinking you’re safe . You will get robbed in broad daylight. Someone is always watching! So please be vigilant and know the area of where you’re going; and just because you’re from the hood in your city don’t come here thinking it’s the same here because it’s not! Ice T has spoken about this a million times, please listen to him! It’s so sad! After everything that we have all gone through In The last 2 and half years our community still has alot of work to do regarding violence against each other! SMH.
Nothing changes cuz no one takes accountability, like envy said,we look for everyone and everything to blame except our mindsets,and selves
Did you listen, the criminal is being blamed. Deal with what is not what should be
Said same thing
@@nk7925 the condition that creates the criminal was the focal point of charlamanges blame,you have a comprehensive issue clearly
I’ve been saying this for years. The black community will never improve as long as people don’t take accountability. I don’t see things getting any better.
@@nk7925 he's really not tho. If a white man killed him, it would be a manhunt. We just let ourselves off the hook when it comes to black on black violence
Stop blaming poverty. There’s a lot of poor people who work hard, level up and get comfortable. These dummies gonna flip the chain and buy rims and ball out at the club for a night. Let’s be real.
Facts stop blaming poverty it's our culture glorifying violence gangs no parents in the household's
No one is talking about single parenting and these are the children growing up now. Where is critically thinking skills.
That first caller completely missed every point charlamagne was making. The reality is, there are people out there that are willing to do these crimes NO MATTER WHAT. Even if you don’t share your location.
They are but sharing your location makes the matter worse. Is that not how pop smoke got found?
You're in danger either. TJay could've died month.
@@hueyfreeman5509 the problem is people are exclusively blaming and hating her. Instead of saying her post COULD’VE led to them being found, so many are saying she is THE reason he’s dead and that’s just not true.
@@jaib903 Considering that this is how pop smoke got got, I think people are more justified than not in thinking that
@@hueyfreeman5509 how does pop smoke’s situation prove anything about what happened to pnb rock’s unrelated robbery? Those that completely blame her are failing to recognize that the area’s crime rate, the people that saw him enter, the flashiness of his car and jewelry and the fact that she wasn’t the one who shot him all make it’s impossible for her to be completely at fault. It also hasn’t even been confirmed that the shooter was watching his girlfriend’s page. I don’t understand how she’s getting more hatred than the ACTUAL shooter, there’s no justifying that.
When are we going to accept the responsibility that the music in hip hop is breeding the violence ? Jacking, wanting to shine, street cred......
No other genre feeds into its own downfall. Start there.
They’re both right. Envy is right in theory. Charlamagne is right in practice.
I legally paid for it, I should be able to wear it any and everywhere.
Also… I should be aware that in some places, people will try to take my shit illegally, and I could lose my life over this shit… so I should either plan for that (security), or move differently (stay out the hood)
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It feels so wrong losing him like this😔 it makes no sense. When I first heard the news I prayed he would make it through. 🙏🏾 I hope he can Rest in Peace.. PnB🕊💔💔💐
Don't pray for nobody else 🙏 pray for yourself
@@bambam9690 I do & I pray for others as well
@@The_Eleventh_Sign uh huh, that ain't work out for PnB
@@bambam9690 well it's not magic so🙂 bye
Rap is DEMONIC!! GOT THE Spirit of Murder all on it!!!
I just think it's extremely dangerous to live based on how things should be without accepting the reality of how things are. This is one of the main things I struggle with in raising my children, especially in/around hip hop culture. I tried to inject them with all the principles, morals, and responsibilities of being a good, hard working, upstanding person in this world; however, IT IS IMPERATIVE that I make sure they understand not everyone thinks like this and that there is constant danger they must be aware of. We can talk until we're blue in the face about how things should be and how people should be, but if we don't acknowledge, accept, and prepare for how things are, we won't survive. So for everyone out there try to have balance and I wish you good luck.
I agree with you and Charla. I think Envy needs to hear it in the perspective of a father to understand better, because I'm sure he's very protective of his girls. For example, when sharing pictures of my daughter online, or even something as simple as going to the beach... I make sure she is covered up, and age appropriate... because although we say to ourselves that no one should be looking at our kids in a sexual manner, that is not the unfortunate reality. So we take certain steps to protect them. Don't simply look at things for the way we wish it could be, but how it actually is. Be PROACTIVE.
Charlamagne is bringing up an excellent point about our perception of what's really real that I've honestly never heard before.
Envy is being delusional. Charlemagne is right on this one. Our people love the vanity of this world
you can say that about envy but not the people who going round killing innocent people...no only for chains or poverty but pure jealousy?
@@hotties3v3n Your point does not connect with my statement. You don’t know my stance on the issues you listed. Asking is always better than accusations.
DJ Envy for the win. Work for yours.
CTG is blaming the victim. Envy is addressing the problem.
No he's living in reality
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc addressing the problem isn’t reality?
Sigh. We need to start having discussion in our community and start holding ourselves accountable. I know the white man is the easiest to blame(and most justifiably) but we gotta start being responsible for shit going on in our community. Shit is sad.
And I don't wanna hear about I'm a coon or whatever. That's an easy out and easiest way to avoid REAL discussion. Idgaf about what white people are doing, I care about MY community. This will continue to happen and at some point we can't deflect the blame. There's other things white people have done to the black community but this disruptive behaviors is OUR responsibility. I'm tired
This comment right here!!!
Most corruption and crime in society is top-down. Whenever folks begin to talk about the crimes of the poor and oppressed in a society, they have to start by looking at the top and the system in which it operates. We live in a society that provokes crime (i.e. capitalism). Everything is working as it was designed. In a perfect world, all gang members and street criminals would have the spirit of our revolutionary ancestor George Jackson but that's not where we are.
Unfortunately, Black criminality in its current state often serves two purposes: 1) Communal repression - Black predatory behavior targeted towards other oppressed people helps to prevent any type of awakening or uprising that would be otherwise targeted towards the oppressor ruling class. 2) Protective stereotyping - the true criminals (oppressors, ruling class, racists, Black misleadership class, etc.) can absolve themselves of their crimes by simply pointing at all the criminal shit going on in the poor and oppressed communities. This happens all the time which is how the "black-on-black crime" term came to be.
Amos Wilson broke this all down in his book, Black-On-Black Violence: The Psychodynamics of Black Self-Annihilation in Service of White Domination. It's dense but it's a good read if you can get through it. Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Joy DeGruy Leary is another good read.
@@TorreyTy I'm exhausted.
@@Tunechi65 same and it's so embarrassing
Agree 💯
Envy mustv forgot what his DJ name is. That very word drives a lot of this crime.
He posted everywhere he went for 24 hours. Yes her post may have told them where he was at the moment but they likely been watching him all day, that’s why they got to him so quickly. These people spend their day looking for marks on social media. The French man said that on Vice video about Kim K. It’s a business for them at the top, you don’t think lower level perps not doing the same.
So they could have been in a car following him for all we know.
@@jocelyncooper1738 he said a week ago a car was following him on dj akademiks interview so that was the sing right there
From what he said he had people on him already in LA. I’d have Rosco’s delivered to the crib. I know that sucks but you gotta move like that knowing people trying to get at you.
Its actually better and safer ...to get delivery when your that famous
@@BigSamHH Even safer to have a close friend pick the order up for you. A delivery guy can go on social media and reveal your address.
I know. exactly
They don't want to discuss the issue, they always want to blame someone else.
I’ve lived in LA all of my life and the gang culture has gone down significantly since the early 2000s but one of the areas that has remained active is Watts where the projects are. The Roscoe’s where PNB was at is only a mile away from Watts.
Ask any LA native, nobody goes to that side of town. Regardless if you’re gang affiliated or not.
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Facts
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Thing is, people are assuming this is gang related and there’s no reason to think it was. Some young teens trying to make a buck or two probably but who knows. Also that area is not far from the airport I read correct? Lastly, read he was argumentative with the killer prior. Why not just give up the jewelry and move on? Embarrassed or not you live. Now you lost your material things and your life. Sad
@@bmanbusee3812 That location is not next to LAX. If the shooter was wearing a purple mask, it may have been gang related.
I agree with envy and the 2nd caller. As a black lady who has also experienced injustice, i say enough with the victim mindset. “We are like this because of systemic oppression.” Every single person born in the same environment behaves and thinks the same way? No! We are like this because we choose to be. We listen to music that glorifies murder and robbery. These young men have been led astray for many years by any rapper that went on the mic to make this cool.
I feel so sad about what happened to PnB. We shouldn’t accept this reality . We should increase the standard. We are no longer accepting this is our culture.
What will change our community is not democratic policies, handouts or healing energy. We need fathers and family units.
May the peace of God be with his family and may God have mercy on us for how we treat each other.
Honestly Charlemagne hit the nail on the head with that one, I grew up in a city where ppl loved buying nice stuff but my hometown is super ghetto, never go there if you've never been there before bc you'll more than likely get robbed first night there, if you're not from there you'll almost for sures get robbed. Especially if you've got a chain and other fancy shit on somebody and their homies are going to see it and pull up on you, not even having anything one day Sophomore year of high school I got a gun pulled on me, I didn't have anything on me worth taking either. So I agree mostly with Charlemagne on it, if you can't afford to protect it you can't afford to wear it. Also at the same time both of them should've never posted their location, especially knowing thousands of people were going to see it right away. And also yeah I've had my own experience seeing somebody with fancy stuff at my hometown get robbed literally right after bringing it back, sorry New Mexico doesn't have anything fancy ngl. But anyways remember to never wear your chains and stuff out in public because your literally just asking to be robbed at gun point, and if you're the kinda person who won't give it up, be ready to give up your life for it because you kinda did put yourself in that position.
Not tryna diss PnB but he rly fucked up bringing his chain and posting his location. RIP though PnB your music is fire af😥
Charlamagne was on point with everything he said. If you buy flashy things, you gotta protect it, and if you can't protect it don't buy it. I also agree with DJ envy. If you work hard for what you got, you should be able to do and go wherever you want. But unfortunately things changed and people changed over time and over the years.
Or just don't wear it everywhere!
@@aimannouredeen6131 Right, exactly!
Things have not changed l. Check this out If you were flossing '93 Ford mustang 5.0, wearing gold chains you will be jacked at a Burger King. If you were gotti in the sixties you will be jacked by junkie for that Blue Magic. If you wore nice clothes and had a chest on a stagecoach you will get robbed by bandits and that's many places in the world
Right
Blaming her has to stop, she has enough stress as is. Condolences 🙏🏿
Right! He also posted a video himself with a lot of bling on once he arrived in LA. They could have been watching ever since he reached town.
Speaking of PnB jewelry, did anyone ask this brother during the 2019 interview about the infamous RING he was rocking? The same one associated with many other fallen rappers (Pac, Dolph, Moe, Pop Smoke) ect?
Im with charlamagne on this one.
“If you can’t afford to protect it, you can’t afford to wear it” CTG keeps evolving.🔥
Envy setting his self up for failure with his mindset he doesn't want except the world for what it is and he will fail thinking about how the world should be vs how the world is.
We have to teach our kids to value something other than material things.
It's not about hate , that's what people do out here period.
Idgaf I’m blaming both Pnb his girl, and the shooter… All made a foolish decision, why in the world you go to a hood chicken spot with half a ticket around your neck?.. Why this broad posting geo location of her rich bf eating dry chicken and waffles? Why that bum risking his freedom over Bs?🤦🏾♂️💀
Envy lives in a fantasy world.
Exactly!
Why do I need security to protect me from my people
Charlemagne be talking like therapy is free 🤦🏽♂️
The Better Help App is.
@@thequestarian It’s free to download, you mean? Because the therapy is definitely not free on there.. it’s sixty-five dollars per week..
Charlamagne hit it! "If you can't afford to protect it, then you can't afford to wear it."
If you can spend all that money on jewelry, you should have security!
The sad truth is that we debate about these issues but nothing is being done! It’s sad 😔 nothing has changed!
17:55 Hip Hop did NOT start from negative things. Hip Hop started as something that happened at block parties. People were having fun! Folks started talking about their lives and what was happening in our neighborhoods that record labels capitalized from.
The west coast came out with thee gang culture and violence with NWA
One thing and the most Important thing that they missed… people have a lack of spirit.. no one speaks about working on your spirit… can’t fix everything else and the foundation ain’t right
This is why I get mad at people when discussing reality. Everybody lives in a fantasy world where people think in terms of what “SHOULD” be right. Life has never been “right” in my eyes so I’ve always seen things for what they are, not how things should be. Salute to Charlemagne. Also, his girl definitely deserves blame for having to have attention at all times! Never once have I been to any restaurant; formal, fast food, fancy, etc and thought “I should post on social media where I’m at and what I’m eating”…that’s so weird to me. I’ve been on cruises and out of the country and never even think about posting my adventures on social media because again, it’s weird as hell to me.
Great lesson...I won't be posting my every whereabouts ✔️
Exactly if that was the case slavery wouldn’t have never happened. People especially black people operate in fantasy instead of reality and because of slavery you’d think we would have some type of reality programming but that in itself is operating in fantasy.
A lot of people now a days can't understand reality how we do because they chose to blind themselves to it.
Dropping locations and what your doing is apart of the problem. Robbers gone rob and go in and out of jail, stay off the internet with locations. As a community we shouldn’t glorify markings that get people killed. Murder chains, I remember when dudes stopped driving gold daytons - murder rims.
Sarah brown lady are you paying attention his girlfriend put the location down it was a set up smh
@Clinton Davis Her location was on.
@Clinton Davis Her location was still on, plus she drove him there, and he was taunting ni ggaz both on social media & via his Akademiks interview. It wasn't just a gang stalking. He gave mfs a reason to come after him.
Sometimes you can’t even tell it’s the hood especially when it’s all sunny outside and your just driving by