how skinny kpop idols really are in real life
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- planned to show that fancam doesn’t make the idols look as skinny as they are in real life. they definitely look so much skinnier than they are in camera.
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people said camera adds 10 pounds, so they are obviously skinnier in person than what they look like in pictures
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sry but no i disagree.
the pics shown are of diff eras having yrs of diff.
example: lisa in 2018 looked the same on fancam just like how its shown in public pics.
and lisa now gained a healthy weight.
@@bangtanforlife2216 ikr the fancam was in 2021 and photoes are were in 2018(?)
@@bangtanforlife2216 She is still underweight.
@@bangtanforlife2216 Agreed. Some of these pics are not correct in the context they're presented. Idols are people and their weight fluctuate do to various reasons. But definitely not accurate to say this is how different they are on video vs on stills.
Idol starvation is the reason why so many variety shows give out food as prizes and idols are so excited for it.
I've noticed that too. Huge red flag
It's so sad how emotional they get about it
Especially if they loose…but there are times when they’ll get the prize anyway. I remember one show where half the members got to eat, so they shared with the other members (on the “loosing” team)
this is so true!!! I want to comment this one too!!! the losing team are so sad 😭😭😭
Omg so true. I always thought "but they are millionaire aren't they? Don't they eat that at house? Why the excitement?"
that is just sad and horrible . they do make a lot of money but have to win to have food.
It's not surprising, stylists give idols clothes that focus on their curves to make them look more appealing. But when the same idols wear everyday clothes, their real figure and skinniness comes out. Also a lot of female idols are severely underweight cause they're not allowed to gain the muscle needed to make up for the lack of fat and that's just as unhealthy as being overweight
I would think they want the girls to gain the muscle weight so they have better stamina and are healthier for their taxing tours/performances… it’s kinda scary how thin some are…
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If she want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
That's why #SistarBodyGoals
Agree. Though I don't know why she's getting "fatshamed" tho cause like, I actually honestly prefer her now than the skinny her. I'm not saying she wasn't charming or beautiful before, but you could clearly see she became more vibrant and cuter when she started gained weight(I love her cheeks) plus, she looked healthier. I mean, she didn't even deserve being fatshamed and nor does anyone. As a matter of fact, bodyshaming shouldn't *even* be a thing. As long as you're healthy physically, emotionally and mentally, then you're good. What's the need of following netizen or society's idealistic standards for celebrities when the price you have pay for beauty/perfection is your health or worse, your own life. Sure, visuals can sometimes be a must when it comes to appreciating beauty but that's like, *just* temporary. It's not permanent. We all get old. Like flowers, we bloom and then wither and die. What's more important is the beauty within. Not just the smarts, but the empathy, the humour, the charisma and the heart of a person: that's what real beauty is. Sigh
@@youtubeuser-es7eg I've no idea where u guys saw these fat shaming comments i haven't seen them even once.
But I've seen 2 or 3 other comments of ppl saying she got fatshamed too. Yet its nowhere. Or its so little that most fans haven't even seen it.
If there’s anything I learned as a kpop fan, it’s that han jisung and hwasa are wise:
‘Eat. You eat JUST EAT’
OMG I REMEMBER THAT LOLL
Han is actually skinny lmao hes setting y'all up for disaster
@@prettytopiaexactly like he literally has the “ideal” male body kfjdjfj
Same as Jessi
bro yoona in the pic of "yoona in public" that wasn't even yoona 😂, and sunmi bro dose she look fat to u?
It's true. I went to a BlackPink concert in 2019 and the first thing that came to my mind when I saw them come out on stage as "OMG THEY'ER SO FRAIL!" Rose looked like she could snap, then lisa, jennie, and jisoo. They're already skinny on camera, but definitely 10 - 20 lbs less in real life!
Sure you did. If they were even slightly overweight I wonder if you would be concerned about their weight? Would you say "oh they look kind of flabby"?
@@8luvbug There is a difference between them being thin and being concerningly underweight. I would also be concerned if they were morbidly obese. It's the extremes that are concerning.
@@milkbread5036 the point is people only think it's okay to comment on an idols body if they look too thin. If an idol is overweight like Kayla or Jeongyeon then everyone is saying they look fine the way they are.
@@8luvbugthe thing is that they are not at all overweight, and despite what they might appear they are still skinnier than msot just appear to be on the thicker side because their respective members are so skinny
@@ChannelOfilliusion You're still not getting the my point. If I said I went to a kpop groups concert and said "oh they look so overweight" people would be down my throat. CL is worryingly overweight but we can't say that without being called fatphobic or a body shamer. And a lot of the times people aren't commenting about and idol who loss a lot a weight or looks too thin out of concern. They comment about it in a backhanded way by saying things like she "looks like a skeleton" "looks anorexic" "looks like a bag of bones" I've seen countless comments like that about Rose, Lisa, and Wonyoung. I wouldn't like someone saying I look frail or look like I could snap when I may be a naturally thin person.
I don't know what's scarier : the industry that make them diet like this or a good part of kpop fans that think most idols are not underweight but "naturally skinny".
I think both are problems, and of course if you point it out those fans starts to saying that it's not true and they all are naturally skinny
I think the fan delusion is a bigger problem. Corporations are always going to exploit idols. If it sells, they aren't going to change anything. If fans thought more critically about the information they're getting, they might come to reasonable conclusions. Instead they pretend their idol is the bestie and that their bestie would never lie. Like, these people aren't your friends. Anything that publicly comes out of their mouths was put there or approved by the label. Idols are commercial products designed to appeal. If fans stopped buying products from certain groups in protest, that might change things. Corporations only care about their bottom line.
Lol, also, thank you for mentioning the 'naturally skinny' phenomenon, isn't it such a coincidence that almost every idol is naturally skinny? Wow, what a funny coincidence /s
Its usually Far East Asian women Coping with the fact that they are extremely Flat, Tiny microscopic bra and bottom and hipp size.
Or that the strict diets are a good thing and not toxic
I am so afraid for all the women in the entertainment industry. It’s horrible what standards they’re held to. I hope we can eliminate beauty standards and appreciate everyone’s unique beauty
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If she want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
I agree ... the standards are crazy.. and people defending it need help to
@@youtubeuser-es7eg that does not remotely change the point about unhealthy industry standards that this commenter was talking about!
Lisa and rose are naturally skinny though
@@youtubeuser-es7eg still doesn't change the fact that she used to be that skinny... But I'm really glad she gained more muscles nowadays! She's killin' it 😍
Can I just talk about how beautiful is the Chungha " Gotta go " cover in the background?
honestly it was so good, i actually really loved it.
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@@rithaalkharosi9901 Thanks for the link the cover is really so nice
No
I'm obsessed
saw blackpink at coachella this year and the amount of people around me that commented on how skinny they are was INSANE. it was like a real wake up call to just how fucked up the standards are. at that point it’s not even bodyshaming - it’s genuine wonder at how they’re still alive.
Someday, I am wishing there will be a movie of what's really happening behind all the glamour of Kpop. The truth, I want the truth not the masked beauty. I want to know if there are forbidden or inhumane things the management forces their artists to do/eat etc. Coz how come they are very energetic on stage? Are they taking energetic pills which I don't know if there is something like that, or maybe energy drink? And sometimes I wonder how the girls legs are the same sizes all skinny, when compared to GG of other countries some are skinny some have thick legs. And all identical face shapes when in fact Koreans have round faces. I was shocked several times when I saw Koreans in our city, young girls or teenagers most have round faces, the shape is almost perfectly round, and when compared to women in my country they will have a round face if they are fat or older, but these girls has normal body shape but round faces.
When people call idols lazy sometimes I feel like they just don’t have the energy because of whatever it is they are doing to maintain their weight. Blackpink opening night in Seoul and when people said Wonyoung was doing NJ choreo lazy on purpose come to mind. I think this all the time though that they probably look even skinnier IRL.
Fat jealous westerners bodyshaming. Usual suspects
Lisa has gained significant weight throughout the years, whole rosé has answered to skinny shaming comments about how it's hard for her to gain weight but she's trying. Jisoo was fat shamed alot because of her wider rib cage when in reality she's just as skinny as the others and Jennie has lost of lot of weight this year.
I remember when Blackpink just started, Rosé was so pretty, full of health, and some people calling her "fat" that time. But she really looked great. And what now? They did awful plastic surgeries to her and she's awfully skinny. Also Jisoo looks much skinnier than before, and Lisa with Jennie too. Wtf? It's hard to watch on them. When i see them i think about concentration camps and it makes me sad.
Can confirm-I studied abroad in Korea and was stunned by the size of the members of Twice in real life. There was a point I was a mere five feet away from the girls as they exited the stage. Shocked me. I never compare my body to idols’ anymore because of this experience. The camera really does add 10 pounds
Were they small in height as well? I'm curious, do they all look dangerously skinny?
@@ldive he or she means they are very tall
In twice sana, jihyo, jeongyeon looks healthy and they are not so skinny or fat. They are medium. Rest of all especially tzuyu and chaeyoung are super skinny. My cousin saw them in real life she said everyone were beautiful but expect sana, jihyo and jeongyeon all of them look skinny.
@@avnisharma9023 failed interpretation. They meant except those three members all of them looked super skinny. Nothing to do with beauty
@@Kat-xc6cz ya, I didn't read that comment goodly
This scares me how skinny idols
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Ikr
Same!
you must not judge them
@@suwingonizone yeah but in my case, I’m concerned rather than judging. It’s either they just naturally have a skinny frame, or it’s because of stress, strict diet, etc. Seeing them look so thin can raise concerns. I truly hope they’re healthy though.
Mamamoo Hwasa once got bodyshamed, knetz thinking she's "fat". I went to Mamamoo concert and saw her in real life and damn she's like SMOL. A smol girl with a curvy body. Knetz are hilarious
Not even curvy to be exact, besides the thighs ( which I live for it 😳 ) she actually got a standard k idol body, and that is still thinner than the average. Our beauty standard is crazy, like, if your weight is heavier than the last two digit of your height in metric system, at least one-third of people will consider it fat
She has the perfect body, thin with curves
exactly she probs only weighs like 120lbs which would be the normal/healthy weight for her height
She is actually slim and not ...anorexic or feeble.
When she came to the turkey she was definitely small. Her ankles and legs were really thin he just have that curvy look and Koreans act like she is an alien
Idk but I feel like these idols are forced to stay this skinny. Obviously, a few people like being skinny but not everyone. I still can't forget how Momo thought she'd not wake up cuz she'd been forced to starve herself just to stay skinny to fulfill the requirements of a female idol :)
P.s. the only idol out of all these to not look too skinny and in overall good health was Sunmi. Really appreciate all idols for how much they sacrifice for their career! Happy to see they have supporting fans ❤️
Yeah ofc idols are forced to be this skinny. It is horrible, and when Momo said that she didn't know whether she would wake the next morning i was beyond shocked. That is why i hate Kpop agencies and their rules!!
They are, its the industry. Most of the women and men have a form of disordered eating
I don't blame them
I agree But some K-pop idols are endomorph body type .so they loose most easily than the more they gain . And the momo one was true . But anyways in the video when it showed IU I remembered a fan screaming **what weight** when IU said **I think I'm gaining weight** 😂✊
Well I don't think someone really force idols to be skinny it's just the public for me and korean standards ofc
Sunmi looks the healthiest because her weight battle is the struggle to gain weight. She is naturally just skinny as was stated before. Where she tried gaining weight to please fans, but her body just returned to its normal state of skinny.
The legs kinda scary, people say genetics but I've seen naturally skinny people, they aren't skinny to this extent
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You right..
What song??
true, if they are this skinny they have health issues
@@aliahmaejarquio7016 gotta go - chungha
The standards in kpop is horrible, women thinking they need to be skinny, they’re beautiful as they are and shouldn’t feel the need to go on diets ect
EDIT: this is to adress nubes grises comment, I’m not bodyshaming skinny ppl, I’m just saying in the video there were examples of idols who did do diets to fit standards, I’m not saying being skinny is bad but for example momo having to go on a diet and feeling rlly bad and sick. Also to other comments yes ik other countries have those standards but kpop idols are exposed to the whole world so it’s much stricter
Every country has those standards, not just kpop
Just because they are skinny does not mean they are doing diets or losing weight. Being skinny is normal too. Don't body shame skinny bodys.
For real
@@yona7256 I don’t see it happening in the western industry as often
@@sierrashenali Really? I do a lot. And even if so, western industries make their idols undergo a lot of surgery (big lips, prominent check bones, slim thick bodies, etc). Diets and plastic surgeries go under the same umbrella. Western industries aren't any better than the kpop industry.
Stay healthy and don't do diet.
*As Hwasa said "just eat!"*
Diets don't even work in the long term and are unhealthy. The quality of the general regime is what's important
Hello can you follow me?
Gotta listen to her cuz diets literally do nothing but starve you for a little bit
Diets can improve ur health
Hwasa is a queen 👑
Some of you in the comments are trying to "normalize" these idols' weight. Well, I love these idols too (very much) but I have to be honest and say that this is not healthy. Listen to what Amber Liu has to say about this topic, or how many of them are put on extreme diets by their managers, how most of them do only "liquid diets" (where they basically don't eat anything solid but only consume bevarages, bad bad bad for your health), how Jiyho from Twice was bodyshamed very publicly during a shoot because the photographer thought she was "too fat"....idols go on diets because they HAVE TO (these are the industry's standards) not because they WANT TO and this is by no means their normal or healthy weight. This goes for male idols too. And let's not forget the number of times idols have collapsed during performances because they were too overworked or on extreme diets or both. We must protect them, not agree and conform with the system that's destroying their health.
thank you. even forf asians who tend to be pretty skinny naturallyy they are underwight
Before some of y’all go off with the body shaming comments just know some of these idols are NATURALLY SKINNY, meaning this is their NATURAL healthy look/weight. They have openly talked abt that and how hard it is for them to gain weight in a healthy weight. One of them is Sunni who said that during the 24 Hours promotions she had to keep eating all day, even when not hungry to keep up the weight her fans wanted. I know they exist and I know the struggle cuz I myself am naturally skinny and face the exact same problems. Pls be respectful
@@georgeoust I’m also naturally that way. I had to be given weight gain solutions growing up, but the original comment is correct. You see how these idols were originally, and the Korean entertainment industry has VERY strict standards for men and women when it comes to beauty and body image. They start out already thin, and they’re pressured to get even thinner. Multiple idols have talked about avoiding anything that could possibly bloat them during press tours, that’s how fearful they’ve gotten of looking “fat” in the eyes of the media and their own industry. We can acknowledge when people are bullying idols for their bodies whether it’s about them being too skinny or too big, but the critiques on Korean beauty standards is incredibly valid.
right
:c i rlly like all these idol its ok if they are skinny they are talented and kind :D
@@georgeoust Many idols lie about it to avoid negative attention. Somi is an example. Most of them aren't naturally thin as the fans think. It's pretty difficult to believe anything that comes from the kpop environment where image is what matters girl. I don't believe in any reports of "natural thinness" coming from kpop world...
How the hell are they this size and are still able to be so physically active? I'm constantly surprised that they have energy at all, I never could in that condition
They will have to follow a strict diet provided by the company. supplements are also the part of their diet. Only with that supplements they will gain energy not naturally or through food they have.
They are pushing their bodies way beyond 100%, that's why they always debut so young, because their bodies are still very resilient and even so they take a lot of supplements. They're like athletes always on peak performance, but they do it on heels and with very little actual food on their stomachs. I'm not joking when I say kpop is the olympics of music/entertainment.
Most of them consume lots of energy drinks which is worrying me :/ but since they are active i guess its fine(?)
Lots of them take energy shots too. Ik they do this for tours/concerts at least but im guessing it's becoming more and more common even for smaller activities.
They take vitamin powders in their waters
The last three girls look like they’re close to death even on the fancam
U crazy.. rosie is besst
@@stevejung6470you must learn to discern between hate and concern
i already think Rose looks really skinny on-screen but irl she is literally skin and bones
I think she just wanted change her chubby cheeks
Rosie actually wants to gain some weight
Before some of y’all go off with the body shaming comments just know some of these idols are NATURALLY SKINNY, meaning this is their NATURAL healthy look/weight. They have openly talked abt that and how hard it is for them to gain weight in a healthy way. One of them is Sunmi who said that during the 24 Hours promotions she had to keep eating all day, even when not hungry to keep up the weight her fans wanted. I know they exist and I know the struggle cuz I myself am naturally skinny and face the exact same problems. Pls be respectful
@@georgeoust no they arent they been training since they were teen 13 14 15 to be maybe to be kpop star they work too much they all have to be skinny they have strict diet and if they dont are attractive or pretty they have to get plastic surgerys
this size is too extreme… not realistic for girls in teenage years… terrible when they broadcast for kids to “show true beauty” soo unrealistic for many people….
I will never understand how being extremely skinny and bones is the “beauty standard” in the entertainment & modeling industry.
@kumaruma Don’t bring modeling into Kpop, modeling has improved more than Kpop has. Modeling is now more accepting of race, body types, etc, because the modeling industry isn’t just about the body, mostly the industry is based off faces and natural beauty, and unique looks if you pay attention to modeling you see more diversity. At least modeling is more better than Kpop. And modeling and Kpop can never be compared in that way
@@janelleslayss If it didn't bring a shit ton of money, modeling industry would never be diversive I'm afraid
That's korea😂
Like for real its crazy.
okay so unrelated topic but im extremely skinny like skin and bones.. probably like some of these idols but trust me ITS NOT WORTH IT i literally had to throw away so many clothes that i loved so much bc its too big on me and i look like a homeless person who has been starving for the past four months.. its honestly so sad that everyone thinks that being skinny is worth it.. ITS NOT there is no definition of beauty so pls do not look up to these beauty standards.. it doesnt make me happy at all
It's really concerning since not all idols may have a naturally skinny frame, and some even go through extreme diets to attain a certain weight. We put so much pressure on visuals, we often forget the unhealthy measures practiced to obtain that apparent perfection. I would rather we encourage everyone around us, to maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle, because a healthy body with a sound mind looks good on everyone.
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If you want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
@@youtubeuser-es7eg please stop copy and pasting the same message over and over again. This comment is not about Lisa.
I agree too, but sadly we cannot encourage and please everyone around us to maintain a healthy diet and lifestyle, not everyone will always listen.
saw dreamcatcher in real life and all the members might have the healthiest bodies in kpop ever, literally body goals
it’s known that their company doesn’t force them to diet and that their manager always puts chocolate bars and candy in their car because they need to eat a lot to keep up with their dance routines!! They might have the best management in kpop nowadays
My fave groups, MAMAMOO and Dreamcatcher both have a variety of body types. and Iove to see it! Both groups also have members who build muscle and are proud of it. 🖤 I'm thankful to these ladies being true to themselves and being a positive impact for young girls. Hwasa especially always speaks out about how she works HARD to maintain her self love and confidence.
wow! I looove Dreamcatcher, and now I'm loving their mangament for not starving them!
There’s also this thing called “ hip pads” used to make their waist look small and hips round on stage
Its make them look more like a woman instead of a nasty guy 💅, they also wear alot of bra pads and bottom padding (alot of it) for the same reasons since Far East Asian women naturally have TINY hips and bottom and bra size, so extremely flat that even MEN are curvier than east asian women ☠🚪
Don’t forget about the suffocating waist trainers and slimmers they make idols wear while dancing under their clothes that makes it 10x harder to breathe and make already anorexic idols skinnier. It’s ridiculous.
@@kx_xx Right. I couldn't even imagine what they have to go through. Running out of breath from a tiring dance and singing + a waist trainer sounds awful.
I can’t even imagine what Somi looks like off-camera since she looks frighteningly thin on-camera.
I didn’t think this was going to generate so much conversation but fine, let’s talk about it. Somi is a public figure by her own choosing; part of that is going to be discussion of her appearance. My comment isn’t malicious. I don’t place any “blame” on her. I know that this kind extreme restriction/extreme exercise is normal, publicly acceptable, and privately encouraged. She’s not the problem.
If you compare her group photos to her solo photos, she lost a considerable amount of weight. If I knew someone in real life whose weight changed so dramatically in the same short amount of time, especially if they achieved it through three bananas a day? That would be legitimately concerning. I would be concerned about disordered eating. Y’all are almost certainly not old enough to remember Karen Carpenter, but the idea that it’s nobody’s business when any of these female celebs go from slim bodies to near-emaciation? It’s absurd. It’s dangerous as well. If your body looks like Somi’s, it always has, your doctor is not concerned about disordered eating or underlying medical issues, and you are healthy overall? Great. You deserve no comments or judgments from anyone else. But that’s not what goes on in Kpop and we all know it. Who was it in Twice who said they ate only ice and thought they were going to die - y’all that’s not ok. And I’m sure plenty of you have seen those compilations of managers grabbing food from idols. I am not attacking Somi as an individual with the right to pursue a career as she sees fit, just as any idol male or female. I would also love to see the actual portions of those meals of steak and wine and chocolate or whatever that she claims to eat (in between suggesting that people eat a acorn jelly because it’s the least gross no-calorie meal). I will never forget one of the passages in “Reviving Ophelia” when a teen girl dealing with anorexia told her therapist that she ate pizza and ice cream for dinner the night before, only to be immediately corrected by her mother as having eating one slice of pizza with the cheese scraped off and one teaspoon of ice cream. Again, not a personal attack on Somi as an individual but a rejection of the acceptance of things like when Park Bom was called the “Lettuce Genius” for openly crash dieting by eating little more than iceberg lettuce and POSTING IT ON ME2DAY. Off-camera photos like these are important in order to lift the veil and show what women on extreme calorie restriction and intense exercise regimens look like without the hip pads and stage lighting. I was a kid at a time when models were expected to look like junkies (no, this was literally the aesthetic of “heroin chic”), so any of y’all saying it’s rude to comment on an idol’s appearance? Maybe what’s actually “rude” is constructing an extremely misogynistic entertainment industry that reinforces these behaviors in the first place.
Agree, but at least she has a six pack/actual muscle
She said she's happy with her weight and very healthy, can we stop commenting on it negatively, I can't imagine how she feels
Let's not forget that she's super tall so it contributes to her skinny appearance.
she has the perfect body, much better than scary overweight bodies like demi lovato!
@@lilo3310 Because she said she was healthy doesn't mean she's right. Lisa is shorter than her and weighs more than her. Check the BMI calculator to see if it's healthy. Somi was very healthy during her debut, not now. Sometimes you can even overdo it with exercises and it is unhealthy for organisms. If the fact that she is underweight is called healthy, then how are we to call people who have a good weight? Are they fat? It is not without reason that there are limits of weight that are called healthy and unhealthy. Starving yourself can even lead to d3@th
I don't like watching idols who are suffering. Since she has muscles, she should weigh more, not less.
“They actually find it hard to gain weight.” “It’s genetics”
No… it’s not. This is how the industry is. They starve, work out more than 3 hours a days, and eat ice to be this skinny.
They're skinny, but some videos are old an example is IU and Yoona. Yes, they're are skinny but we know that IU has an eating disorder and she is healthier now, so is Yoona. Some idols have trouble gaining weight, Sunmi said she usually eats fast food in order to gain weight, but it's difficult for her. Even when she gained weight her fans said to her that she was fat... so it's very sad how standards are in Korea.
True
omg
but you still can’t deny the fact that some idols were born skinny, even when it don’t look like it.
Well, genetics play a part, but definitely not as big as everyone thinks. There are many people who wouldn't have debuted if they haven't become the size they're now. Some of the videos are old, but dieting and standards are definitely a problem, a lot of girls not only lose weight, but menstruation, receive migraines and anxiety. Actually my mother is as tall as most of them and weights the same, she's been doing absolutely fine for decades, but now loses stamina faster and was found a stomach demage dating since her teenage years. I've personality lost my period due to malnutrition and extreme lack of sleep (another problem idol trainees have)
Some idols look like walking skeleton😭
Nice body shaming there
@@8luvbug???
@@Fiddledeedoo ???
There’s literally no need to body shame. Switch the body types and people would be fuming.
@@8luvbugits not body shaming. its a way of people care about them. have you seen people with anorexia?
As someone who’s overcome severe anorexia I just hope this doesn’t spark young girls into starving themselves to try to achieve this look
it definitely will. I am bothered no one is talking abt it/ignoring it whatsoever. it's so normalized and these idols are surely seen as beauty standards thus girls would be pressured to look the same
Its so true. When I started to get into K pop, I began caring so much more about how my body looked and started to think i was fat because i was comparing myself. Thats a big part of why i hardly ever watch k pop content anymore
@@katanaberry i saw fans asking park chaehyung her diet to be sticky like her.i was shocked that girls fantacize to have her body.
oh it is sparking them so bad. every student of young india knows kpop now and they say how beautiful they're idols are, or they wish they looked like them. this is why i hate when people on social media applaud them for being this, cause they had extreme diets, professional nutritionists, plastic surgeons, skin specialists to make them what they are now.
But why would anyone want to look like that
I’m tired of people saying that “it’s just genetics”, no there’s a different between being genetically skinny and starving yourself. There is a clear difference. I feel so bad for these girls sometimes, it’s so obvious that it’s not just “genetics” or “eating healthy and working out.”
P.L.E.A.S.E.
They KNEW what they were getting INTO.
I think the crazy thing is like, all of the toxic people who see Jeongyeon back with Twice for Scientist and react like Omg she's enormous/she's fat. Next to an average person I bet she is of a normal weight, but when you look her next to a bunch of girls who are entirely too thin she looks large which is the part most people don't think about.
@@savagebuck stfu bro just bc they knew doesnt make it right
some people are just naturally skinny, like wonyoung and rose. but compared to a few years ago, the both of them have also lost tons of weight. they're not at their regular, "natural" skinny weights anymore.
@@savagebuck They are on harsh diet because in Asia being very skinny is a "sign" of beauty !!!
I think agencies need to give their idols freedom to eat as much as they want
Cause some idols body type is skinny but some are forcefully skinny
Edit :- and sometimes idols choose to stay skinny by them selves and sometimes its cause of fans standards
Edit :- thank you for so many likes i have never got more than 500 : )
dont forget the fans kind of force them to diet and stay skinny... i remember they did this when sumni finally gained weight her fans ended up calling her fat ect.. so she dieted again, she mentioned this on her interview with jessi.
@@loveu8910 yeah some fans too but i wasnt familiar to it so i didnt mentiontion is it sorry
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If you want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
@@youtubeuser-es7eg what the hck am i saying
I am nkt talking about lisa
Did i mention her ?? No right
And i am saying that some idols are naturally skinny but some are forcefully skinny by their agencies
Dont you know momo how she was treated
But how about netizen who always talk about their body or anything else ?
They're so skinny it scares me I love them so much and I just don't want anything to happen to them due to their health
This is kind of a paradox because companies want their idols to be skinny, yet when it comes to performing they use lots of padding to make them curvier :|
Interesting observation 🤔
Unfortunately they want both: skinny body and curves which is almost impossible unless you have amazing fat diatribution. Then again, when youre underweight there isnt really... any fat left to distribute
That’s when cosmetic surgery steps in
Wonyoung seems to be very underweight. She’s taller therefore she needs more weight on her body. She can’t be the same weight as the shorter members, it puts her bmi in the underweight category . Seriously I get worried when I see her, she looks so fragile. She appears not to have much strength. But she’s been doing so well during ive’s promotions. She seems full of energy. I just hope she’s healthy enough to go the distance.
The first time I got to see IVE was one of their show performances, she stood out to me the most because I was shocked by how fragile this woman looked. I’m legitimately worried for her, because it does not look like she has any flesh on her bones, and I have no idea how she, and all the other members can go through these harsh dancing routines so often. I pray that she is happy and healthy.
agreed and someone told me "she likes to look that skinny she does it on purpose, respect her body its her choice" i do respect her body even so a body like hers shouldnt be normalized she needs to eat more she is so underweight its terrifying and people just ignore it
@@chinothemeerkat3215 Absolutely. This is not a criticism of her body as much as it is of her health. If she’s doing it herself, it’s devastating that this is what society expects a perfect woman to look like. If her company is doing this, shame on them. Although it’s not something new in this industry, I can’t believe it’s not more frowned upon.
I think she debuted too young. At that age, you have to eat a lot of good food to have a normal weight. My sister (15 yrs old) is very similar. She is very slim (38-40kg-162cm), but she doesn't go on a diet deliberately (she eats a lot actually). She just doesn't eat meat and snack, and doesn't try to supplement the lack of protein and carb in her diet. Idols that are trained young often have a dangerously slim body: Lisa, YoonA, Wonyoung, Tzuyu, ... since their companies put them on diet too soon for their age.
@@bonbon_1729 Dont worry about wonyoung, she has been constantly saying she eats a lot but no one believes her. She eats healthily, izone, ive members confirmed about this and even their variety show pd said the same thing that she would leave the last in eating korean BBQ. No one is doing anything to her its just her type of body.
Their legs are like my arms 😳
the fact that their legs r not evenhalf of my legs🙂....
Im glad Ailee is not skinny
it seems like an insult :/
@@userpzz1it seems like an insult.
Their legs are my wrist 😭
This is so disgusting. It’s like looking at malnourished children. That’s what they are 😢
YES 😭😭😭😭IT IS SAD THAT HOW COMPANY FORCE IDOLS TO STAY STARVED :(
Some of these women are grown
The thing is, "fancam" and "public" are two different era for each of these female idols. They are not a week or a month apart, but could be months or even years.
Selective bias.
True.
they're taken from different years which is kinda weird if they can use recent fancams of them can't they use recent photos too and yes there are still fan photo pictures of them even in the pandemic
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If you want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
Exactly, lisa and iu's made it even obvious. Like lisa's pic in the public was taken back in 2018, literally 3 years before the fancam that was shown.
Was thinking the same this, this is definitely not a fair comparison
I can confirm. In 2019 I was so blessed to attend TWICELIGHTS tour and had the opportunity to go backstage for my VIP and I was so shocked to see how underweight they were. I knew they would be really skinny but the camera does add weight to their bodies and make them look not that alarming. They are even prettier irl but so tiny and fragile I was seriously scared bc it seemed like one pounch could break them. Sad.
It’s not just camera. It’s also cos of the outfits they will look a bit thicker.
Why would you punch them? What did they do to you?
No wonder i look bigger 🙄
@@Area_GnC is not that I want to hurt them in any possible way. Is just that after Ladies Code accident I gained an irrational fear and I’ve always thought that if EunB and RiSe had more muscles they would have covered their bones and maybe protect them a little bit more. If they didn’t have such a bad nutrition they would have recovered. So ever since I am truly scared of female idols being injured in any way. I was scared to death when Wendy had that fall from the stage.
@@Gabriela-ir6zy I was not serious dude. I was just kidding.
I've always thought how this could impact their lives as women. I often think about if they even get their periods, or if when they're older and want to be pregnant all of this underweight stuff when they were younger wouldn't affect it, or if they would have trouble gaining weight afterwards. Ashley who was in Ladies Code said in the podcast Get Real that she didn't get her period for a year while being an idol, because of the diets and stress it gave her. Genuinely worried for these women
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Also joint issues that come from disordered eating.
It's concerning
@@334...4 Plus you saw Wonyoung too yes? Her legs look shaky and she’s super tall.
You listen to Colde? I love your profile pic.
@@harleyqueeen yes I do❤ thank you!!
THEIR THIGHS IS 2X MY ARMS PLS 😭😭😭
Why did I imagine you being a super buff dude when you said that? Lol
One thing that I noticed, besides how scary that is to a lot of people:
1. Fancams are closer, not at a distance. Things get bigger the closer they are, obviously.
2. They’re not dancing. In a lot of those dances, they’re putting their knees closer together, pretty much touching or crossing. That will create an illusion as well, considering they’re not standing still.
Some of these aren’t just being skinny, they’re actually scary. And I don’t want to judge or bodyshame, and I’m not a medical health professional who can definitively say it’s unhealthy, but it seems like we’re just looking at a dangerously low weight, even for their body types.
Dude, c'mon, I understand you're not trying to bodyshame, but calling someone a "skeleton" specifically the K-Pop idols you “want to support” is just the rudest thing ever. You know it’s the oldest thing in the body shaming book, so why would you call them that? There are so many better ways to tell people about them without using words that are specifically made to harm them emotionally, so why didn’t you use those words instead?
Not to mention, it’s extremely harmful to their mental health. They’ll go by "one extreme" to the other in no time if people like you don’t watch what you’re saying because of how judgmental society is today. There’s no issue with saying that someone looks unhealthy, but saying that "they look like skeletons/a skeleton” is just harmful and terrible. I know you’re trying to promote healthiness, and I’m glad that you’re advocating for it. But what you’re really doing is promoting insecurity among K-Pop idols (as if the industry wasn’t already cruel enough) and masking it as "concern." Please, please word your comments better next time, I beg of you.
I think that the expectations of how skinny a kpop idol should change a little becuase I think being really skinny is not being fit and healthy. I think they just got do what is best for their own body. This is just my opinion.
@@travisscott2085 because seeing people that skinny is concerning? There’s no other word I could use to describe it to be blatantly honest, and this is the first time I’ve ever went as far as to say this. It’s terrifying to see any human get this skinny. It feels like we’re not even looking at people anymore. It’s concerning. I’m aware I could use better language so when I find it I’ll edit it but for right now, that’s all I have.
Give me some better words to help as well so I don’t have to use these words again.
@@goodfriend2603 I agree with this mostly. Because every body type has a different “normal”
@@faeri_ I've researched a few words and I'm sorry for not putting them in the original comments, but my topic picks are..
Malnourished
Emaciated
Cadaverous
Gangling (Though this is more used to describe awkward behavior amongst tall thin people, the "tall thin" part in its defintion still works for replacing "skeleton")
Slender
Underfed
Underweight
Gaunt
Lanky
And.. etc. I’m sure that there a lot more words to describe someone who’s extremely skinny, but these are the ones I found. Thank you for having an open and honest mind, and I wish you a happy new year! (:
The Lisa picture taken on public was actually back in 2019. As of now the 2021 Lisa shown in the fancam is different Lisa has gained more weight especially in her thighs.
Unfortunately, all of these recent idol fancams are comparing to "everyday" pictures of these idols at their worst weights. The poster clearly wants to manipulate the audience which is sad because they could have made a good point. With this, they kill their credibility.
@@mogwai247 exactly my thoughts, sort of making people feel good at themeselves by saying oh look at this poor skin women, and it’s honestly sad and insulting, idols like sunmi Lisa and rose have always been victims of backlash from Koreans themselves who these kpop fans think they want skinny, yeah they want skinny but curvy wish doesn’t exist so they are going to shit over every idol regardless of their weight.
@@mogwai247 exactly, the IU and Krystal ones made me laugh lmaoo
What you actually mean is that she had cosmetic procedure to enhance her hips thighs and butt, Jennie did the same.
@@mogwai247 I thought so too, it was obvious that these were their skinnier moments
This is why we need to put more emphasis on healthy living and self-acceptance. 10 extra pounds on camera shouldn't translate into minus 10 pounds in real life to be prettier for people you don't even know. We all know that these girls are beautiful both on the outside and on the inside, but in order to get closer to a vague concept of the ideal, they sacrifice their bodies. It doesn't have to be this way. Thanks to all those who debunk myths about ideal beauty, maintain naturalness and expand the boundaries of the beauty of others.
being that skinny aint even pretty like wtf beauty standards
okay we get that its not healthy but saying they arent pretty is actually gross. You dont say that to someone who is naturally skinny or has an €d thats disgusting behaviour. You should get some help
Just remember, some people are naturally skinny. And that's okay. Being skinny is not the same as being unhealthy
Is being underweight considered healthy ? Or not?
My friends and family said underweight is not healthy but I'm skinny and I'm fine. I think those who are naturally skinny or underweight does not consider unhealthy??
@@tzuyukiwichou2892 I am underweight and completely healthy. I eat very well. I've tried to gain weight several times in different ways, but I just can't. so i accepted that i'm like that.
@@tzuyukiwichou2892 Yes it is healthy but at some cases,it isn't. It depends on the person and how they take care of themselves because there are naturally skinny people who are underweight who don't easily gain weight due to their metabolism. They're called ectomorphs and they don't gain weight easily as much as others do.
@@abiabi_01 No,if you're good then you're not unhealthy.
Oh damn I wonder how massive I look in fancam lol
Fr, also makes me wonder what all the “too fat” idols actually look like irl.
@@biazachathey are most likely in the average, healthy weight range if they look “too fat”
different stages of life, angles and width of the camera lens are to account for both photos and videos and a persons appearance. Generally videos are more accurate that photos in terms of displaying reality. Also the photos are comparing their skinniest moments to their current bodies, unreliable
id look like a freaking blue whale
Hahahahaha
I used to be thin and see these girls as ‘normal weight’. After gaining some weight over lockdown, I look back at my old photos and just question why did I think I was a healthy weight and why I didn’t listen to my family when they said I was too thin. How we see ourselves changes, so we should all be sensitive to it. Body dysmorphia is REAL
Well as long as ur eating properly qnd exercising properly and has no health problem then that's your healthy weight?
@@kittenmimi5326 I was very cautious of what I ate. If I ate more than 1.2k calories the day, I’d pretty much starve myself or go to the gym 2 times the next day. Maintaining a super slim figure isn’t healthy for most. I was obsessed with calorie counting and the gym lol
I can relate to this comment so much right now you have no idea. I hope you feel better inside and I just want to say you are super beautiful no matter what.
I’ve been calling myself fat to every person for several months now bc it’s hard being skinny your whole life then over lockdown gaining a bunch and trying to accept that it’s normal and healthy weight. Esp when you see kpop idols daily who look how you used to look, and being told that that’s “beautiful” and “goals” and “so pretty”. So now that I’ve gained weight I’m like “welp I guess I’m not pretty or beautiful anymore bc I’m fat”. And I’ll see other girls on social media who call themselves “fat” when they’re a size 6 and I’ll say “no you aren’t! You’re beautiful!” And then realize I’m a huge hypocrite for calling myself fat everyday being a size 6. Shi f’s with your mind.
@@kx_xx I am so glad that you can relate to my comment and realise that you are not alone. Our bodies go through so much to keep us alive, so it's crazy how we feel like we have to punish it for vanity. Know that you aren't alone!
I am still trying to love myself and my new body, sometimes I do look in the mirror and get upset but I always remind myself to love myself.
I so relate with you on hearing thinner people say they are fat. I remember when I used to moan about bloating when I wore tight clothes and have friends who were 'bigger' than me tell me that I was not fat. I cannot believe I was so blind to how hypocritical that was!!
You are beautiful no matter the number on the scale, I hope you also remember that
Hı can you follow me
Fancams try to make them look “skinny curvy” which rarely exists as body fat can’t distribute to ur hips
There’re plenty skinny women with wide hips though, it’s literally just the size of your pelvic bones.
On another note, do you know the name of this song?
I understand that it is a preference in SK for women to be very thin. But for those who are not naturally very thin this preference is dangerous. Is it a crime to have some fats? What's wrong with being medium sized? The next time you see an idol being criticized for being fat ( when they're clearly not) please defend them and remind them that them being healthy will always be what's most important.
Medium in Korea is anorexic in the rest of the world. It affects reproductive health.
Very well put 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
yes please send love to Hyeju from Loossemble in her recent music video and 'Girls Night' fancams 😔
The companies don't know what they're missing out on if their idols would be healthy and thriving, actually having energy to create something with their whole heart, without limitations
!!!!!
Easier to control
@@madao2794 positiveness will always win
Most idols don't create they execute and perform. They're the presenters of all of the hard work teams do in the background. Like models
Not that that their part isn't hard work. They still have to develop and maintain the skills to do that. But like another person said in a system like that it's easier to control them this way
@@G-ForceJoJo ngl when i was underweight I stressed alot, no physical pain ofc, everytime i seek idea (when i do my job) i always stuck like my mind wasn't moving, turn out my doctor said it was bc i lack of oxygen and minerals, overworked and underweight. I hope that none of this kpop idols experience this
people forget that when you look at a group of 10 persons and they are all really skinny, they won't look as skinny anymore since you have no other reference.
I once saw Taeyeon in real life and even knowing that she is really small I was shocked to see just how thin she was.
Yes, the camera visually adds 10 pounds. K-pop is full of walking skeletons
starving your idols is actually genius from a company's pov. not only do they stay skinny, they also lose their period so they find it easier to be active. also it's harder to get pregnant if you're severely underweight, so pregnancy scandals are also out of the way. i feel like a lot of companies use this strategy. scary.
Almost like an animal farm.
They dont treat idols like humans..
That's dumb lol.
Literally just put them on birth control. What medieval strategy involves just making the woman emaciated?
@@foggylegg6362 even wrost treatment then animals
Remember this is only you speculating. No facts
Fans definitly need to put a HUGE PRESSURE to the Kpop Industry so they could have less restrictions about loss weight. This is really important for their health. I am really admiring Hwa Sa for the strong message she bring into the Kpop Industry with 'Maria'
For me, Hwasa's body is perfectly beautiful and strong, exactly what they need to support healthy mind. She should be a politician.
@@senadzri Yes ! Hwa Sa president 🛐
It's not the industry but the entire country mindset....how do you deal with that??! For them that's normal, and doesn't matter how hard you try to talk about this issue with them 'cause they get angry!!!
well nietizen will bash an idol when they gain a little weight and bully them and call fat
Feel like we international fans try speak about this issue but the problem we face are the mindset in korea is rewarding People that are really skinny and thats kinda sad
I have a friend who is genetically thin, and I must say she looks more healthy than these kpop idols, they are literally just skin and bones rn...
Edit: Iam not body shaming anyone. I just hate how Korea's unrealistic beauty standards forced them to do diets that can literally kill them.
@@jodiekeks1094 it’s the truth
Yes; you can always see the difference between someone who is naturally thin and someone forcing themselves to be. They just literally do not look healthy; pretty sickly looking actually.
Don't body shame!!
@@MegaPissed1 fr
@@Graceadaamm Im not body shaming tho..
My heart stopped when the 2nd difference came up and the worry got worse throughout the clips. We see them slim but the never look that bone like in mv's and videos or pictures. Yes they are thin in an mv but they still look healthy. Here they look so fragile it's scary.
*Genuinely* *their* *weight* *is* *way* *much* *under* *than* *average* *and* *Because* *of* *the* *strict* *diet* *they* *have* *to* *go* *Through* *this* *~* *wish* *that* *it* *Doesn't* *make* *any* *bad* *impact* *on* *their* *health*
Moral of the story "don't believe on social media's and celebrities life just appreciate their talent but don't dream to be like them"
Edit : I was not talking about their success and their talent. I was just telling this all beauty is make up and surgeries the God who made them is the same God who made us but people after watching celebrities with so much grooming makeup extreme painful diets and surgeries they start feeling insecure about themselves and goes in depression. I always give priority to their talent and their kindness. We should appreciate their talent not their faces. This video also proof the fake ness of the social media. That's my point.
why
why cant we dream to be like them??????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@yaminsalehin7004 Their companies forced them to stay "skinny", they might eat in an unhealthy way. Staying too skinny is bad for your health too! Also, there is something call "plastic surgery" which will make you look completely different, it's not healthy as well.
?? what ??? it's just about weight issues . people said camera adds 10 pounds, so if they want to have beautiful pictures , they have to so so so skinny
@@cloudenee Plastic surgery doesn't make a person looks completely different. It really diff from every person and it's not that bad as long as it is not an unhealthy obsession.
IU, Krystal, and maybe Lisa were definitely just at a lower weight when those pictures were taken since they look skinnier in the fan-taken photos (which are the phone cameras that add ~10 pounds), but modern day stage, photoshoot, and paparazzi cameras are fairly accurate to someone’s real body structure.
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If you want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
@@youtubeuser-es7eg what does that even have to do w what I’m saying? I just pointed out that if someone looks skinnier in fan-taken photos it’s because they were just at a lower weight in general since phone cameras add more weight than the fairly accurate professional ones. So yeah, the fan pic of Lisa was taken at an earlier year when she weighed less and the stage cam was more recent. I never said it wasn’t???
@@youtubeuser-es7eg she was fat shamed in that body? What do people want? A f**king skeleton? This depresses me, because I will need to literally starve myself to attain that body
Sunmi forced fed herself and still ends up on these lists. She's natually skinny, she has said many times how her whole family is and has begged fans to not comment on her body because she's doing fine. I don't know much about IU and Krystal but Lisa is also natually skinny, in her predebut pictures she's skinny as well. And she has actually gained muscle and weight a little over the years.
@@g_mggn6805 yes i swear and Twitter people were dragging her so much because her legs gained weight and call her legs names like hippo and i have screen shoots for them!! I seriously sometimes hate kpop community coz the toxicity in it like leave people alone
Their bodies look scary, I don't understand how this is the ideal beauty standard weight wise, it seems horrible.
When they wear jeans or just normal everyday clothes it shows how tiny they truly are! It’s honestly mind boggling because on stage they look healthy in their stage outfits but in normal everyday attire they look sickly! I just how everyone is ok!
it is illusion. Just like certain clothes can make you look taller or shorter, skinnier, same concept here. If you look closly often the clothes they wear on stage is tight, as in it looks like it barely fits them. It creates illusion that they are chubbier than they really are.
@@delusionalmilkshake I think it’s also because of the people they’re surrounded with. On stage and at Kpop events all the idols are skinny so they themselves don’t look very skinny. But when you put them with the general public you realize how skinny they actually are
@@Jem5122 that too, definitely plays big role
On stage: Hip pads, push up bras, slimming outfits, heels, tights.
Off stage: Just a normal(albeit they are all absolutely beautiful and talented) skinny person.
You know when you’re walking down the street and you see someone who’s extremely skinny and you don’t think much of it, not because they’re unattractive or because you assume they’re unhealthy. But because you’ve SEEN skinny people before, it’s not like an unheard of thing. So many girls pressure themselves to be that skinny to fit “beauty standards” when in all reality no one really cares if someone is skinny or not. This video should be a reminder of that.
It reminds me of how “curvy” girls are only praised when they have an hour glass body, accompanied by some type of corset and body shapers. In the same way Kpop idols are the “special” skinny where they have wide hips and an hourglass body with strong legs. When in all reality they just look like your everyday skinny person without all the glitz and glamour.
So don’t be so tough on yourself, you don’t need to weigh 90lbs to be pretty.
People do care if people are skinny, when kpop idols gain weight they are shamed by fans and netizens to lose weight, :// in asia if you aren't thin alot of people will shame you and call you a pig and the societal pressure and people you know will cause you to have to have bad body image leading you to go on diets or just not eating. Eating disorders are a big thing in asia since if you don't weight 90lbs people will tell you you are ugly.
@@icecreamcake8412 well that's just the Asian beauty standard, and not everyone is like that.
because there’s a diff btwn just being skinny and having a nice skinny body (snatched waist, nice butt, thigh gap, rounded hips….) beauty standards are so needlessly complicated 😔
@@ugh-u8z yeah not everyone is like that. There's a saying in asia "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down". Alot of people in asia are thin because it is a standard and there is a big sense of communitarianism and conformity. Those who don't confirm usually get ostracized or made fun of. Since this video is about k idols and korea is in asia I wanted to point that out.
@@ugh-u8z no, thats only social media. In real life pp dont like that standard at all, super unhealthy
There's probably a huge gap between the fancams and the "in real life" pictures. As we all know, kpop idols tend to have a really unhealthy relationship with food so it's not unusual to see them gain or lose weight time to time. In this video, I think the pictures were taken at different times so that's why they look REALLY skinnier in real life than in the fancams. Nevertheless, these idols are really skinny anyway but I think we are just not used to see kpop idols in real life and we never really realized how skinny they were due to the kpop industry which made the fact of being underweight the norm.
Same like you could tell how different they look in the photos
I think the issue here isn't the difference in weight at two different times, but the fact that at some point in time the idols looked so underweight.
@@dnshet5998 yeah definitely the fact that they have to go through extreme diets, extreme workouts or even starve themselves just for the sake of the fans or agencies is the biggest issue here.
@@dnshet5998 no, but this video is literally trying to say that they look different in video and in pictures saying that the videos adds them 10 pounds more and that in pictures is how they really look irl which is a blatant lie cause there is years of difference from the videos and pictures
This is the result of their companies abusing them, not 'uwu I have a skinny body'. Its very sad.
Something that always crosses my mind is how 'fragile' these idols can look in real life. We all think they're really powerful on stage, and they are! But there is also a reality of them looking extremely skinny and fragile, sometimes it may just be in their genetics, but most of the time it is probably from the heavy work-load of a kpop idol and the extreme diets these people have to go through in order to fit the beauty standards. I just hope that these girls may be healthy and happy in their bodies, and I hope that the beauty standards can change from 'skinny is the only option of beauty' to 'your own beauty is what matters'.
i honestly don't appreciate the "skinny:fragile". honestly even beauty standard don't exist. they're still a dancers. they need to stay skinny for their choreo. strict diet is common on boxers, dancers, ballerina, and athlete. boxers have it worse than idols tbh. beeing skinny is essential for idols and lot of profession. also how are they fragile when they way more stamina and muscle than us tho... they probably can run 2 hours and not get tired. i read somewhere that they can do 100 pushup and not dying with exhaustion
@@merry6539 I can do 100 push-ups and run 2hrs without ever stepping a single foot inside a gym. I’m also skinny like them, and agree that skinny does not equal fragile…but some of them are definitely fragile. Also, you don’t have to be skinny to be a professional dancer. It depends on your own body muscle and endurance.
@@merry6539 no offense but you dont have to do all that to not die from exhaustion after 100 push ups lmao
@@merry6539 you don't have to be skinny to be a professional dancer... I'm not skinny but still a professional dancer...
@@merry6539 Comparing idols to boxers, ballerinas, and other athletes makes no sense.
These professionals bulk up (i.e. build up muscle) and them being slim is a result of their low body fat : muscle ratio. Idols, on the other hand, especially female idols/idols whose concept is cute don't bulk for their career, and actually can't look muscular, because of the beauty standards and ideals of what women and "cute" looks like.
I don't understand where you're coming from that "boxers have it worse than idols", because boxers (and it differs between the styles) make muscle and maintain it at a high rate, whereas idols actually aren't wanted to have visible muscle, but it's just a side-effect of their active careers. Because of this, if idols don't have enough muscle to support their physicalities, or aren't training them properly, their muscles with atrophy, and this causes so many other problems.
Boxers (and other martial artists) slim down before a competition to enter a certain weight category, but that's for a week's duration and for burning excess fat accumulated during their off season. Idols are constantly expected to maintain a dangerously small figure, and they can't even go holiday periods without media updates of them being photographed, and this leads to them being constantly criticised online.
Unless you actively compete as a boxer/martial artists, that's such an ignorant, ill-informed comment to make "tbh". I honestly don't appreciate the comparisons, when you've just complained about the comparison of skinny = fragile, which isn't what the commenter meant, despite all of them being skinny (which is such an out-dated, offensive term) not all look fragile, just that without the camera and other stage effects, their bodies look fragile. Being fragile in this context isn't offensive, they physically look weak, because they have no energy or muscle to support them. Also, having no body fat means that their joints would be so weak, because there's little cartilage to support them. That's what people mean; natural features of an active person are not visible on them, and that's extremely concerning when they're so active and their bodies are constantly demanded of something.
I have an anorexic friend and she looks far More healthier than idol. So sad and inhumane.
The one thing that I'm really concerned about the beauty standard for the female idols is the thigh gap.
I mean yes it may look attractive for some people but it doesn't mean that you should take extreme measures like a crash diet and burnout exercises at the same time. I've mostly been on the skinnier side throughout my whole life and tend to loose a lot of weight when it's exam time or I'm under a lot of pressure (trust me losing 5kgs a month all of a sudden really gets me concerned about my health cuz I need energy to do that sh*t ton of studying and work and it's tiresome) and always had people telling me how I should eat more until only recently when the whole kpop buzz hit hard that people around me suddenly starts dieting and appreciates being skinny (IMEANWOT -_-) Not only that I'm surprised but this just created a whole toxic environment for the people who are naturally more voluptous or those who have a different body type... everyone in the world isn't supposed to have the same type of figure and the trends just tend to change. What is beautiful now might not be the case later.
Now compare that to what idols must be feeling during comebacks... they push themselves to their nth percent and add that to the thousands and millions of people scrutinizing their every move and that stays throughout the whole lifetime of an idol. Being an idol, when you gain weight you're critisized, then you lose it and you're critisized again... You want to look them pretty and then compare yourself to that and make your self esteem smaller... well that shouldn't be happening.
They're mortal human beings just like us and no matter how perfect you want them to look for you on the screen they're just gonna die one day and so are you.. some might say they chose this life and fame but sometimes people push it too far... It's just that it's just so sad :(
Yeah, the "they chose this" argument is garbage. They chose to show their talents and singing and dancing on stage, and share their enthusiasm and entertainment skills in variety shows. That's it. They did not consent to be bullied, they did not consent to be objectified, they did not consent to have creeps take upskirt shots of them, they did not consent to have their physical and mental health treated like a luxury, etc etc etc. They have a skill and personality to share, and that's more than enough for their audience to be satisfied.
@@alexia3552 exactly... they are there to show their talents and share their stories... yes criticism cannot be helped in this case but people should know where to draw the line. Sometimes they don't cross the line but getting too close without actualy crossing it, is bad as well. I hope people just think before they comment randomly if they themselves wanted to hear or see such a comment on themselves :( It would hurt pretty bad if people kept poking you on the one spot you have a bruise... well if they just thought once... but glad to hear from you. Stay safe❤
Why people don't know they look beautiful both ways they don't need to go on heavy diet 😑😣 so only diet for your good health life style
True but some people don't diet. For some, it's just because they have fast metabolism.
No offence but their legs looks like twilight's bella when she was pregnant with a vampire child.
Those who dont know they basically look malnourished
Why do I feel so scared and sad for these idols...
Imagine the hunger they must be feeling when they're undergoing their strict diet and daily exercise...
then u feel bad for athlete, ballerina, boxers too?
Meanwhile Rosé : Even eating hylt spoilers 😂😂
this is why i like jeongyeon rn, bc she looks so much more alive than the super skinny kpop idols,,, everyone is beautiful tho !
No literally the way people say that “camera adds 10 pounds” imagine how healthy and average she looks off camera omg
@@poopmama Even on camera, she looks healthy and average. If hope she is too off cam
The “real life” one shows them at their lightest state while the “camera” one is the opposite. Cameras can’t change a persons appearance by so much. It cannot make a thigh that is two parallel lines look curvy.
yeah, i agree. to really see the difference between camera and real life we would actually have to see them in real life lol otherwise its just a different camera and a different angle.
A lot of idols wear pads to give their hips and thighs volume. Best example for this is Jenni from BP. The cushions can change the shape from the outside and the inside.
They literally can.
This is the problem with this video, The ‘real life’ and ‘camera’ ones are taken at two different times/ weights for the idols hence the confusion lol
Many people who hv been to concerts have said they r way thinner than they look on camera.
And then when u try to point this out toxic kppopies will scream "sToP sKiNnY sHaMiNg!!!" 😂
Just look at their legs😭💔
Why what happens?
@@kookie_kook8048 their legs so skinny 😭
@@kookie_kook8048 They r sooo skinny 😭
It's taken from a different year. And there's nothing wrong with their legs? As long as they're healthy.
@@snowlise3127 they clearly aren't, it's kpop industry, most of these idols come from companies that are well know toxic with their idols and their strict diets, and the rest spoke already about their eating disorders like IU for example.
When I pointed out how toxic and harmful a video praising "the skinniest kpop idols" was, I was called skinny-phobic and skinny shamer. I would never shame a person for being skinny and I don't blame them, but it is important that as a community we have the conversation about how common it is for idols to be underweight. I am not talking subjective notions of what skinny and fat is (which is the conversation that is often had) but talking about health and unhealthy role models for kids and teens. And now that we are talking about this also reflect on the superficiality that surrounds idol culture and fan culture, how much importance is given to "Visual" and skin color, and jaw lines, and s lines, sometimes it feels like it is everything people cares about. Having so many things to actually admire from idols and Korean culture people chose to fixate on the objectively negative aspects that even koreans regard as toxic of their own society. Maybe if we shift the focus to their talents, and good actions as fans we could help those who are being pressured into not eating enough, having plastic surgery or lightening their skin with dangerous products and no exposition to natural vitamins from their environment; and so many other harmful "traditions".
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
SAY IT SIS
I agree with you partly but I also feel like there is a huge toxicity that stems from people when they question idols weight. I know majority of people come from a place of concern, but the only people who should be commenting on idols weight is their doctors. Being underweight does not always mean an idol is unhealthy. But more so, it is unhealthy if they have poor diets and underlying health problems because of the low weight. We probably won't know these idols diverse medical history and if they are truly unhealthy or just really skinny. I still remember when fans flooded Somi's comments when she posted a picture of her weight, and how she's had to comment multiple times on shows how she eats well and exercises, and is just purely really skinny. I think people forget how hard idol life is, these people dance for a career, almost every single day, and a lot of idols workout ontop of that; of course some idols are going to really skinny because their lifestyle is just completely different. An idol could be a relatively normal weight but be forced on starvation diets and having serious health problems. The human body is pretty amazing, and looks can be decieving.
The conversation of toxic beauty standards and how idols are forced to diet and be skinny is a whole other can of worms. It is terrible and I agree talent should be prioritized over looks. It breaks my heart when I hear idols talk about their eating disorders, or cases where idols go from thick to thin in the spam of a couple months (which is very unnatural), yoyo dietng, there are tons of cases where fans concerns are justified. But then I think of idols like Sunmi who has been skinny her whole life, and has had to constantly explain that all her family is just skinny, it just the way she is. So I would also like to point out that some idols are just.. skinny, some people cant gain weight no matter how hard they try.
Looking at this video I would never call any of these idols "unhealthy" (as many have pointed out, the video is misleading as fancams and videos were sometimes taken many months or even years apart) i think fans should be cautious with their concern, and make sure they identify if an idol is just skinny or actual has something unhealthy going on.
No hate to you op, I can tell you come from a place of concern.
On the topic of plastic surgery, I would also be cautious. While I am always an advocate for learning to love yourself and embracing your features, plastic surgery is not inheritly bad.
if the idol did it to their own accord is happy with themselves then go ahead. There could be a conversation on how idols get ps to just please the public, but we will never know an idols thoughts or reasonings for plastic surgery. I mean Tons of American celebs get ps, I dont think its specific to Korea but just the celeb culture, I find it a bit hypocritical when fans only criticize korean idols.
It is a problem when minors get plastic imo, or if an idol is forced. I mean I know ps is common among teens, and I guess a simple eyelid or nose job is fine.. But ive seen some idols get extensive surgery. I think of the aespa members and how they probably got surgery in their teens, and Alot if it.. (no hate to them, theyre beautiful and it is their choice, but i cant imagine it was their own decision) Wonyoung isn't even an adult yet and has had a variety of surgeries, she was already praised when she first came on produce for her looks, and I blame their company, as I cant imagine her doing it on her own accord.
That is what I have a problem with, but regular consenting adult idols? Is fine to me..
@@kpopoholic_4623 I was only talking about when people is pressured to do it.
This actually makes idols' worries about their weight make a lot more sense to me. I've heard so many times an idol expressing that they want to or should lose weight and I always think "you really don't, you look skinny to me" but seeing this, they really do look not-as-skinny on stage because of the lighting, camera angles, etc in relation to how they actually look in a normal setting. They must always have that fact in their minds and make a mental note of "I need to get my weight to where I think it should be, and then a little more" because of it.
At 0:43 she looks so underweight. There is no definition to her body at all it’s scary
My wish after this video is to go and have a good meal:
you guys have to know that peoples' weight fluctuates too... there are plenty of facecams where the idols look thinner and plenty of public cameras where the idols look heavier. Being an idol unfortunately often means a lot of gaining and losing weight, so try not to believe things like this
THIS !!! and some of these photos aren't even from the same time ( the wonyoung one was from her debut in ive and the other is from iz*one )
It's kinda difficult to compare using those videos, they aren't around the same time period, some of them were several years apart so they aren't exactly accurate.
Yes exactly,the person who created this video is a bogus.
Exactly what I'm saying
Sorry but this is a shit!!! The lisa one were two different years lol, in public was in 2019 she was so skinny back then, while in fancam was 2021 in her solo where she gained alot weight and muscle this year and become so healthy and she was literally fatshamed this year because the weight she gained!!! If you want to compare then do it with the same time and year lol
This is just so sad.... These agencies make the idols work so hard even after their brilliant achivements..... It's just really sad
It's so scary, I'm afraid of how skinny their legs are, like they could break at any moment
yeah,, and they are not attractive at all..
Seolhyun is the only one who doesn't look malnourished.
I was watching IVE's eleven live performance once and I was with my 7 year old niece and out of nowhere she pointed at WY and said " that one looks like the corpse bride". I honestly didn't know whether to laugh or get mad.
tell her that was fvcking rude and to never say it again
@@rosiii9 it's the truth
@@rosiii9 it's the truth though-
@@rosiii9 Avoiding the issue and pretending it’s not happening literally doesn’t help either
@@blue3374 plus it's a 7 year old kid that said it not a adult though...
*kinda trigger warning? eating disorders:*
as someone with anorexia some of these girls look really malnourished. Theres a difference between skinny and unhealthily thin (also not to say that all anorexics are emaciated skinny - an eating disorder doesnt have a look), however with these idols its different... even naturally slender people's bones dont protrude outwards, show clearly reduced muscle, fat and tissue mass, or appear to have their thin skin fold tightly around their faces - these signs are all too familiar with my experience. these are only my observations but the kpop industry is known for promoting weight loss, unhealthy diets and, along with their extreme workout/dance schedules it is understandable why fans raise some concerns...
Edit: maybe im reaching... but at 0:04 wonyoung grabs around her wrist to see if her fingers touch on the other ends and might be a body checking behaviour. i used to do this a lot at my lowest weight
Edit Edit:
When suspecting someone is struggling with an eating disorder, their behaviour changes as well! - an obsession of thinking about food or never eating it, binging tendencies (eating lots of food at once), going to the bathroom immediately after meals to purge and other sneaky behaviours. TALK TO A TRUSTED ADULT WHO UNDERSTANDS EATING DISORDERS. a misinformed adult is really damaging and only perpetuates shame within the disorder.
as someone who also as an eating disorder, totally agree. also, for the wonyoung thing, i also often do that without even noticing sometimes, and the only other people that i've seen doing that were always disordered people on ed platforms. while it might be a reach considering her obvious and worrying weight lossi do not think it's that far fetched...
@@celestinoclemente1954 exactly, it can be a subconscious thing but a very common behaviour in the ed community. also i realise now that some of these kpop stars did battle w eating disorders which is so sad.... the industry definitely needs to change.
People always say don't judge because many girls are naturally skinny and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you have almost all girls in one industry with their bones sticking out, you can't tell me there's no problem. When you have retired kpop idols talking about crazy diets, you can't tell me all these girls are just born this way. Skinny is perfectly fine, forcing someone to be skinny in unhealthy ways is wrong.
Yeah completely agree, there's nothing wrong with being skinny if that's how your body naturally looks, but there is something seriously messed up with the way companies make idols go to the extremes to fit the "standard" (whatever that may be at the current time). I once left a comment under a video saying how I believe this is going to lead the idols into health problems later in life (osteoporosis comes to mind as one) under an official kpop channel (stupid of me in hindsight) and my comment got deleted and reported for "violating community guidelines" -.- . Thankfully, UA-cam didn't suspend/delete my account or take any further action but that experience taught me a lot about the extent these companies must go to hide what they are doing.
thank you 🙏🏽 some people really need to understand this !
Kpop idols who are overweight...fans: DONT TALK ABOUT THEM THEY ARE PERFECT
Kpop idols are underweight...fans: disgusting. They need help.
Stop with the double standards
The issue with this is, you’re showing newer fan cams and older irl photos or vice versa. Weight can drastically change in amounts of time.
also, a lot of them were dealing with eds and have recovered from them. iu for example has always been really open about hers
Yes and some of them were going through Eds or just a rough time. If I remember correctly that iu picture was when she was having a very hard time.
weight can't drastically change unless you are sick or a very long time has went by
Girls Generation's YOONA AND SOOYOUNG have always been very skinny by nature They themselves have said that no matter how much they eat they never get fat and they get happy when they gain weight so please don't judge them as if they do not take care of their health because they do 🥺♥️
Thank you,some people don't acknowledge that some idols are naturally skinny.
I am also like that.. I have been eating a lot more for a long time now but I’m still slightly underweight for my height and still haven’t gained enough weight
Yes there are some people like that, it's called having a high metabolism. There is a difference between skinny and being naturally skinny. Hoping these idols will keep safe and healthy.
Y’all say things like “this is so scary” but call jeongyeon fat 😐. Like not directly, but it’s obvious what y’all are trying to say with “the stylist does her wrong, that’s why she looks … different”, “we still love you…” , “others say she’s not pretty anymore but I still think so!” , “I hope she gets healthy soon, I worry for her…” and more. Y’all are just calling her fat in a nice way. Y’all are why she still feels like shit. As a big girl, i get it. How we see it, it’s basically y’all’s saying “wow, you look like huge big whale and your so confident to be out looking like a cow! But You’re so pretty to me!” And then y’all preach about how bad it is that idols go on these diets, shut up. The minute a plus size idol ever dares to debut y’all will lose your minds. Hell, y’all see skinny women that aren’t under weight debut and you already lose your minds, then bully them in Ed’s and then make fun of them for being skinny and call their skinny bodies “gross” because of course when an already skinny girls loses 25 pounds you start to see bones. Why can’t y’all let skinny idols just be skinny? Why do y’all have to laugh or be scared about their bodies? Just let them be skinny. It’s their body not yours. Same with being a healthy weight.
Well it's ridiculous how you think the people who disagree with this standard beauty are the same ones who call out fat lol
vvv because most of the time they are! People who sit on their phones all day and have no problem spending all their time talking about other peoples bodies are the ones talking about this. If an idol is too skinny they talk about how “they worry for them 🥺” or how their bodies are gross and unhealthy. And when they see average weight or slightly chunky idols they go into fits about how their unhealthy and should probably lose weight. If you really cared about the huge issues of idols and their body dysmorphia STOP TALKING ABOUT THEIR BODIES, PERIOD. You don’t need to comment on how skinny or fat they are. You are basically doing the exact same thing. It’s not your place to have an opinion weirdo. You commenting about how “scary and gross their skinny bodies are” does nothing! Expect cause more harm. People who have no remorse to shaming their idols for being skinny and falling to pressure of society usually have no issue to shame their same idols for being above that standard. Obviously it’s not all, but I’d put money more than half of the crowd does.
The camera does add 10 pound as they say, I remember an older actress saying actresses and female idols in general are like sticks when you meet them up close. I can’t even imagine what they go through on daily basis
To give them some credit, a lot of these irl photos are older than the fancams. Even so, a lot of them seem to be borderline underweight, which is unfortunate for both them and their fans that look up to them.
Have seen Idols several times (before pandemic) and they are extremely skinny. Male idols who look big on the screen are actually on average, and female idols who look thin on the screen are so skinny that their bones stand out when you see them in person. It is more than we imagine. Their arms and legs look like it will break if even a little impact is applied.
What's more heartbreaking is that there are idols who lose weight because they look more fat than other idols when they actually have a healthy figure. It hurts to see them getting thinner and thinner as they continue their album promotions.
maybe that's the reason some of them get injured easily
Shame on everyone who normailizes and justifies why idols are this skinny. Not even naturally skinny people are THAT skinny. Everyone who supports the Kpop industry should be aware of what they are supporting and more importantly, they should TALK and POINT OUT the things that are going wrong. By justifying those looks you endorse powerful people pressuring their employees to harm themselves physically and mentally. Can you even live with yourself doing that?
Before some of y’all go off with the body shaming comments just know some of these idols are NATURALLY SKINNY, meaning this is their NATURAL healthy look/weight. They have openly talked abt that and how hard it is for them to gain weight in a healthy weight. One of them is Sunni who said that during the 24 Hours promotions she had to keep eating all day, even when not hungry to keep up the weight her fans wanted. I know they exist and I know the struggle cuz I myself am naturally skinny and face the exact same problems. Pls be respectful
@@georgeoust naturally skinny doesn't usually make you an underweight.
Everybody knows that the entertainment industry in South Korea demands absurd beauty standards and most idols/actresses are constantly on diets. For example IU revealed in a variety show that 4-5 days before the shooting day she would start drinking only water to have a specific looks on set. Momo ate only ice cubes for a while. BTS Jin ate only chicken breasts during "Wings" promotion.
And that's just three examples out of thousands.
Yes, if you are naturally skinny and have to train that much a day it's extremely hard to gain weight. But then it's on the company to drag out the idol/trainee and make sure they don't start being underweight.
You also should stop receiving criticism as body shaming. It would be body shaming if I said that all skinny people look underweight and ugly. And that's not what I did. I consider a lot of skinny people beautiful, like IU is the most beautiful looking person in the universe to me. However, that doesn't change the fact that the entertainment industry enforces sick eating behaviour on her and other celebrities.
I'm not blaming the idols who weigh the weight they weigh, I'm blaming the people who force them to live like that.
It's amazing how dumb gurls go gaga in the comments section of male idols, but suddenly worry about health and fitness after getting jealous of female idols
@@gunner4ever924 Did I say anywhere that I only worry about the girls or where the heck are you coming from?
I worry about everyone in the industry who becomes victim of those idiotic beauty standards. Strangely, many "kpop fans" only tend to talk about weigh when it comes to the girl groups, not minding that boys struggle almost the same amount.
So take your salt elsewhere if your comment was related to me🙃
Edit: and no, I'm definitely not jealous. I'm going to uni studying the subject I wanted to study since I've been 14, I'm doing lots of sport and music in my free time, I can see my family and friends often so I'm more than happy with my life. I like to listen to the genre Kpop but I don't envy anyone who works as a Kpop idol. People gotta keep in mind that most Kpop idols don't make it and that even if they become a little more known they can barely make any living from it. Idols start their careers with huge debts that are hard to reduce.
Aside from a very small chance of being famous and making lots of money in the future there are just too many downsides to being a Kpop idol. You should know that if you were familiar with the industry.
@@gunner4ever924 girl group stans needs to stop giving "you are jealous" card every damn time 💀
Walking skeletons be like:
They seriously need to stop this dieting stuff 👁️
as someone who’s goal is to look like a kpop idol, not me feeling even worse now knowing what they look in real life 💀💀
As if they look healthy in camera
Just be yourself and follow kfashion if you want. Just don't do what these crazy people are doing with their body. EAT HEALTHY and abundantly. Remember korea has really bad standards... Like unrealistic. just be you
You are saying as if they look healthy on stage performance and MV lo
Please don’t, these women are placed under extreme scrutiny and restrictions for what they can and can’t eat and It’s horrible and unhealthy. I’m sure the last thing they’d ever want is one of their precious fans falling into the same boat, It’s extremely unhealthy
It is so scary how skinny they are... :'( they look like they might break TT
for lisa that photo was taken back in 2018 so she is how she is in her Lalisa performance
almost all pics have yrs of diff.
its unfair to compare tht
Yea she got weight now
@@bangtanforlife2216 Yes that is very true
Ikr this video is more like "After vs before"
@@heesio exactly
Most ppl in real life are overly fat ,most people on screen are skinny,it’s like human curse or something
I think one factor is due to the stage lights, it gets rid of the idols body dimension, less shadow makes the idols "fatter"
Exactly, lighting has a lot to do with perception of a celebrities body. So does the quality of the camera.
The “Somi said she doesn’t like people talking about her weight” thing is irrelevant, imo. She openly shared details about her weight as a “gotcha” for the haters and it backfired. She doesn’t get to tell everyone not to respond to the fallout. I cant even begin to explain how many teens I’ve seen on the internet raving about how excited they are to do the Somi Method (eating a little bit & overexercising) or Somi Diet (the three bananas a day BS). I’ve seen so many girls her height on social media saying how they need to eat less to be smaller because “Somi managed to get that small at the same height as me, I need to work harder.” She’s a public figure and she opened those floodgates. I don’t think her issues with her weight are her fault, she’s definitely also a victim in this situation, but saying no one should be allowed to discuss or examine it because she can’t handle the effects of her words isn’t reasonable.
true
who are you talking about? somi isn’t in this video? /genq
@@minioncat5222 @ the comments. she’s mentioned a lot in them
@@minioncat5222 also Somi has been a huge topic lately in terms of her looks so it's good to give a wise word under such video even though she hasn't been in it
So true lol
Uh y’all know the “real life” pictures are from a completely different point in time than the fan cams, right? So obviously their weight is gonna look different. It’s not a true comparison. It’s basically, this is what they looked like on that stage years and this is how they look like walking around today or vice versa. This video is super misleading.
Idols should know the standards they're setting for young generations 🤏