Caught Trespassing! Private Land in National Forests
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I've been a private property owner in Oregon and Wyoming for all of my 74 years. If there's no destruction, I don't care if somebody camps or hunts or fishes on "my" land. I could not care less. Leave gates as you find them. Leave NO TRASH as sign of your passing. If you see me, acknowledge our ownership with deference to our cost in labor and treasure. Ask if it is open, if there are any rules, and we will be happy for you to Enjoy it with us.
Excellent explanation of a microburst, BTW! I enjoy spending time hanging out with folks like you!
Thanks for watching! I think the concern of this property owner was that they put on guided hunts and this was during our state bow season.
110 %%%%% thank u most people are good but it only takes a fue bad ones to make it bad for all of us MY DAD WOULD PICK UP SHIT FROM OTHER S IF HE CAMP THERE JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WE WOULD BE GOOD ON THERE LAND WE HAD NO PROLMAN THERE .
This was a problem also in the past here in Scotland. Now however we have a law allowing 'the right to roam' so the general public have access to pretty much wherever you want to go as long as your not walking through folks gardens of course. It has worked well so far.
God bless you
well, that is, if he somehow knows you are the land owner i guess.... after all you could just be another passerby.
When i was young I remember my dad had a water reservoir in the backwoods and folks from the city and different towns come over every summer for camping, he never denied anyone and most people were really respectful and overall good people!
Great tips for camp sites in the Nat''l Forest. Glad to see Linda carrying some defense on her hip for bear and two legged critters.
Thanks, Mike. See you on the next one! ~~Linda
Thank you for bringing us along! Great tips regarding private lands. Usually when we go to a new area for 4x4 we’ll stop by the Rangers office for the area asking for copies of trail, which will include private property boundaries.
That's a good thing to do.
You can even download maps that will work and track you even when you don't have service, and it'll tell you not only where property lines are, but who owns that land.
Little trick for the trail cams is to glue bark to it so it blends in.
Just use the same kind of bark and don't cover the lense or motion sencer.
Ah, thanks for the tip!
When we did field research we camped near the sites probably sometimes on private but not fenced or signed land . We did have locals ask what we were up to but they said it was fine with them we were there a few days (we never did a fire in that situation) some even invited us to come by their ranch house to visit which we did sometimes. They gave us some food and lemonade and chatted quite awhile. We got some extra info on the area and they learned a bit about our study, all good. Thanks for the video, info and nice scenery.
Here in Oregon we struggle with the checkerboard system of BLM and private land ownership. I use OnX to identify where private land and public lands border each other. I never camp near the line so hopefully I’m safe. What is really aggravating is where a forest or BLM road (publicly maintained) going through a small private section is gated and prevents access to a large section of public land. The big timber companies are especially guilty of that. We pay taxes on millions of acres that are inaccessible to public use because the government allows this. Just not right!
We see that here in Montana too, but in the last decade they've made progress in fixing that with land swaps and other measures to gain access for the public. There's still places that need attention though!
@@Valeriefromoregon I fully support the rights of private property. I grew up in Oregon in a ranching family and also owned my own 600 acre ranch in the Central Oregon Ochoco mountains bordered on 2 sides by the Nat’l Forest. If you own land bordered by public land it’s your responsibility to post it, especially if it’s unfenced. It’s not illegal for folks to camp “near” your land if they’re on public land. Just because someone is fortunate enough to own land near public land doesn’t give you the right to a “buffer” zone extending into the public land.
@@Valeriefromoregon I support your right to protect your privacy and property. I believe you missed my point. In isolated areas the restriction of access to large plots of public land because of poor governmental practices is the root of the problem. I’ve fought fires, escorted trespassers and poachers off my land and agree that people need to respect the rights of private ownership but owners have the responsibility of identifying their property so those just wanting to enjoy the outdoors can do so.
You too, have a good day😊.
@@Valeriefromoregon Do you post signs at the edge of the property?
"Near" doesn't count, btw.
This is not something the government "allows". The government needs to secure legal easement just like anybody else would have to do. The Federal government has been really bad about securing those easements over the years.There are landowners who sometimes fence roads where legal easement exists and a local federal office can tell you if that road has legal access or not. Many gates are just to keep livestock in and we just need to respect that and shut the gates behind you. Most will post a gate like that.
I REALLY enjoy your videos, thank you for them. I remember driving around a corner thru the forest to visit the view of Mt St Helens blast area 2 yrs after the eruption. The absolute devastation from the wind from the blast was indescribable. We drove from lush forest into sheared of trees in the matter of a few hundred feet. It left me with the knowledge of just how insignificant we are against the powers of nature.
Thanks for sharing that, Larry. At the time we owned property in Moses Lake and we got 7 inches of ash, which devastated that area for years afterward.
I'm pretty sure that the secret to dealing with bears is knowing where they are before they know where you are. Being fully armed in bear territory is absolutely always recommended. Great post as always.
Thank you.
LOL like you would ever know it first. you do not have a bear's nose and you are on a trail, he is not.
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A traffic court judge mentioned (long story short), "Ignorance to the law is NO excuse." Thus, thanks for sharing this info and suggestions on how to ascertain private vs public. Also, that bear spray is ineffective (possibly a bad idea) when windy--never thought of that. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching, KnittedBrow. Some folks here carry both bear spray and a sidearm, some have had to use both.
I just love and enjoy your trips! Thanks for taking us along!
Thanks for this tutorial on how to read sign(s) for an indication of private property in the national forests.
And remember, you can buy maps that cover that particular national forest.
Love watching you guys out exploring like that. Stay safe.
Sorry that happened to y’all. My husband and I love watching your informative, easy going channel. As newly retired folk we have benefited from your reviews of products, and places you’ve been. Keep up the good job on your videos. Stay safe!
Thank you, Maria!
I finally get to sit and watch you guys and I be darn, out stirring up trouble. Thanks for giving us that good advise. Rick, you might sleep with one eye open now. Be safe out there.
Thanks Brandon, we should have known better, but it looked used by campers because the landowner offers guided hunts from there.
WOW! I stumbled onto your channel and watching makes me miss Montana even more. We lived there in the 1970s and 80s. We owned Elkhorn Hot Springs from 1977 to 1981. So we lived there and fell in love with the state. When we sold it, we moved to Missoula and loved living there until my career took us to California. But we have always loved Montana and your videos sure make us homesick for it. :) Thank you for making these videos. We look forward to watching many more and following along in your adventures. And one of my favorite sayings is, "I confess, it's all her fault! " hahahaha You two are funny an d fun to watch. :)
Oh, by the way, yes there is leased land, private land and there is also Mining claims. Mining claims tend to not like it when you camp on their claim too.
Excellent video. Great points. I am next yo the Lincoln Nat'l Forest in NM. When I am in the mountains doing ATV riding, I carry a map from the Forest Service as well as other local maps showing public & private lands. The Fish & Game officers & other parks officers have always been terrific in aiding knowledge of appropriate areas.
the game warden didnt HAVE to give you a written warning, it was his desecration but i am sure the land owner was being a pain, in Yellowstone county private property has to be posted for you to be trespassing at all. and god forbid you were hunting and stepped off the road on private. i worked in law enforcement for many years and i can tell you with certainty that the only reason a game warden will be talking to you is to determine what kind of ticket they can give you. i am aware that far to many hunters abuse land access and on the other side every fish and game warden i have met has seen me as the one to pay for all of that. To be clear i always respect land owners rights and wishes and follow all hunting regs and have never been ticketed but it is stressful seeing a game warden and knowing he is coming with the attitude that i am guilty of something
i was out collecting rocks a few years ago on opening day of rifle season and this really nice game warden was curious what we were doing and came and talked to us for about an hour. super nice guy. didn't know much about rockhounding. we told him all about his adventures and he seemed to think it sounded fun.
Ive never had any issues with a game warden before, but the forest service on the other hand.... i've never had a GOOD experience with them.
Fortunately, that game warden was nice about the situation. I think he was called since it was during hunting season and the landowner "outfits" from there. He could see we were just camping, and agreed that the landowner should put signage up.
@@gonagain i have never been bothered by game wardens or forest service workers while camping, but several times a blm ranger has stopped to "check " on me when i am in a remote area and always been pleasant. but when i am hunting i seem to be viewed with suspicion.......such is life
THIS IS WE HAVE TO WAKE UP LETS GO BRANDON
Nice video, a pleasure meeting you two.
Private as in private property oh my goodness me that's a shame. Great teachable moment though. Thanks for sharing tips, tricks and insights. Another fun engaging short doc. Thanks for taking us along for the ride! 🎥👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for taking me with you from Billings, Montana.
So..you are about home now. I so enjoy your videos. My name is Myna. You two sure enjoy yourselves. It's refreshing to see. I live to travel and camp. Have been working on doing just that. Kinda scary for me though as I am alone. But..when you were in Utah, you had a reddish Obsidian stone. That is a mahogany obsidian. Good find. A definite keeper. Kind of rare. I love Idaho and Montana and lived in both. In Washington now as is where I'm from. Keep on keepin on 🤩
Thank you for watching and enjoying our videos, Pamela. There are solo women travelers/campers that kind of travel together. I don't know how to get in touch with them but perhaps that's an option for you. Maybe we'll see you out there! ~~Linda
I have the BougeRV and I love it. I needed some extra space during the holidays and ran it for hours on end on my Bluetti which I thought I needed to exercise. I’m far away from my favorite grocery store and I use it to bring groceries home without frozen foods defrosting. I put some frozen water bottles in it and remove them to drink on the way home.
Great to hear!
Another nice trip through Montana. My next door neighbor in Spokane was raised a little north of your video in Neihart. Little Belts, Big Belts- All Beautiful Central Montana!
We get up his way a lot!
No one should bother such nice people like you guys.
Thanks Circle Star!
Love the trips you 2 take us on. Thanks
It's absolutely awesome to start our day with you two. Our land in Northern Nevada borders BLM. So we understand proper signage and fencing.
We love Nevada and keep going back there. Yes, when you own land near or surrounded by public land, signage is important. Our land continually gets trespassers even with signs up.
You can also check in at the ranger station and get free maps for the area, when it's possible.
No more rocks LUCY, but, RICKY! 'The Long, Long Trailer' A lot of folks won't remember that. Grate show thank you stay safe
One of our favorite old movies!
I’m glad I found you two. Although I’m a city dweller, it’s refreshing to accompany folks like you on your travels within the USA. I find it interesting all the details you highlight. What I love most is the peace & quiet. Happy trails!
Thank you for watching our videos, Michelle! We appreciate your comment, it makes the hours of editing well worth it. See you on the next one!
Another beautiful "adventure"... Thank you for letting me tag along!
Thanks for coming along, Derek. Hope to "see" you on the next one!
Hi🙋♀️❤😍🇨🇦‼️ I had to put youse on the tv, such beauty! Those blue skys! When we decided to order our custom Taylor Coach, hubby had one request. 6.5 Dometic fridge - for his icecream. We travelled 33 states, starting in WA and OR, where we came across Tillimook icecream, well I had to hear about that icecream thru 12,000 miles and we HAD to stop on our way back, and hubby removed everything out of the tiny freezer we had - to stuff his icecream in there!!!😂🤣🇨🇦‼️ I SCORED an entire set of maps for BC Recreational lands!!! Gold!!! Ibought them off a guy who lived in Tofino for 40yrs...he had never used them, why?, because when you live in Paradise, who goes anywhere else!!😘🤣😂😍❤🙋♀️🇨🇦‼️
Rick says your husband sounds totally normal. LOL. ~~Linda
TO GONAGIN: Thanks for producing this video, and for sharing what you do. I enjoyed this one, learned more good things from it, and appreciate your story telling, good humor, good sense of doing the right thing by people, and your practical tips, such as pointing out the way you look at the campsites, and how to determine if it is private land or not. I also appreciate your description of the MicroBurst evidence in the forest.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was some bad luck with the eviction, oh well there's endless beauty in Montana...one of my last 3 states to explore along with the Dakota's. Your videos of the area are what keep my dreams alive! We have a morning weatherman here in Vt. and on a crisp morning he'll say how we can see Montana, I want to know if you can see Vt? Keep your stick on the ice...
Where I live the Rocky Mountains meet the plains and there is nothing between here and there!
Great video and awesome content! I had no idea that there would be private land patches in the middle of public land areas such as NFs. Good to know. Wish there were clearly posted signs, and that other folk would respect those signs and leave them there. But then that would make too much sense huh?!
Also, you had some time ago reviewed the Alpicool T50 fridge, but I see it didn't make your final 3 list. Was there a reason for that?
Enjoy your videos and the very objective way you discuss matters.
Stay safe y'all!
No reason really except that I passed my T50 along some time back. The Alpicool T50 is fine and the Bodega TWW55 in our video is actually made by Alpicool.
Here in Washington State there are lots of private land parcels in the middle of the National Forest. The property was own by the ancestors of the family that owns it now and since before it was a national forest and you can't take it their land away from them and I agree with that but if they want to be picky about people on it then they have to have signs up and I will respect that but no ones perfect. There is actually private property in the Middle of Glacier National Park in Montana with private homes on it.
Rick finding fault with a woman that can dead center a target with a hatchet can be hazardous to your health……great video as always.
Did you run a heavy duty battery cable connection to the back of your Yukon to power the refrigerator?
The house battery powers our fridge and lights and sometimes a fan when we have the stove lit. The trailer is no longer hooked up to the car, except for the trailer lights.
@@gonagain Rick I see you avoided the point about Linda being able to hit Bullseye of a target with the hatchet🤣
@@justmona9647 LOL
@@justmona9647 - I was amazed and shocked when I saw Linda’s perfect and powerful aim handling that tommyhawk.🪓
Did you know if you can find sapling trees, you can make a refrigerator just by hanging a wet towel around the little things. Keeps butter hard, lots easier than Dometics... not for bear country though...
I miss the days of people respecting each other and the lands. All my swimming holes and fishing spots are all posted now. And yes we always cleaned even if was already there. Just not everyone brought up the same.
I had just told my husband that you guys are so careful when camping. You seldom make mistakes. Glad it was just a warning. If I had trespassers on my land I would want it to be guys like you.
Thanks, Sooner Girl. The warden told us that we weren't the first ones to make that mistake. We get trespassers on our land, so we know how that landowner must feel when it happens.
Very beautiful landscape. I always enjoy very much to watch your travels and hiking.
I love your videos. The Best. After watching your coffee making video, I bought the Clever and I am so pleased with it. Great coffee.
Thank you for your kind words, Marie! Glad you're enjoying the coffee funnel we suggested. We use ours every morning and afternoon at home, you're right, it makes great coffee.
Over in Borrego, CA a part of the desert that historically was used for camping was sold. New owners did not adequately post compelling the Sheriff to visit and run us off the land. Sheriff kindly directed to land whose owner permitted camping.
That was nice. The Game Warden who gave us the warning was also very nice. By the way, it was a game warden because it was hunting season and the landowner thought we might be trespassing and hunting illegally.
Spent some time in that region august Septembee. Very beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I think you were in the right all of the way. There was no posted signs so they probably couldn’t have charged you with trespassing, I would of camped there. In TN you have to have signs up every one hundred yards and your name and address have to be on them. If you have land out in the middle of nowhere like you said signs are no good. If people want on there they will tear your gates down. Some of the downed trees could of been from a ten feet tall hairy microburst. Great video, beautiful country. You two stay safe
Thanks, we'll keep on trying to stay out of trouble.
NO BULL....TRESPASSING!!
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The fun never ends. I have missed a few videos so I will be binge watching this weekend. Y'all are awesome, keep up the good work. 👍
Thanks, Michael!
Second time viewer.
Excellent info about private land in public spaces.
They do exist and it's on you to know when and where.
And as you say, it isn't always obvious.
Best reason to adhere to "pack out what you pack in".
Loving your content! God bless you both!
Thank you, Sam!
Great information, as usual. Thanks for sharing !
Thanks for watching, Lee!
You cannot imagine the number of trout my fishing Buddy and I pulled out of the Smith River and released! What great fly fishing water!
It's a beautiful and bountiful river! Montana has some of the best fly fishing of anywhere around. Thanks for watching, Bill.
We have a lot of private property in the Sierra. California has a lot of disperesed camping when it is not on fire.
Enjoyed the trip. Someday I will get to go. I have got to go this summer to Miles City, MT.. Absolutely loved the Tongue River that runs into the Yellowstone River. So beautiful But didn't get to camp. Someday I would like to. Thanks again
Hello Amy, there are some very beautiful places to camp in that general area. Try Medicine Rocks State Park and check out this video we made of that general area: ua-cam.com/video/YrE6BpUKMX4/v-deo.html
We live close to Hiawatha National Forest here in the Upper peninsula of Michigan, lots of private land.
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I'm determined to make it out your way one of these days!
@@gonagain lots of good boondocking around here. Would be glad to share some of our favorites. Lake Superior is pretty Awesome.
We just got our Christmas tree 🎄 permit. We watch the map closely so we don't mistakenly take a Weyerhaeuser tree. Thanks for your fridge review!
Good operating procedure on the tree hunt!
thanks for another good video 👍 happy trails
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching, Peter, see you on the next one.
My Alpicool has the same set up as the Bodega you have. 2 separate boxes 2 settings. I can do without many comforts but I refuse to give up my ICE cold tea.
We're pretty sure our Bodega is made by Alpicool. We really like ours too.
Thanks for the adventure. Hope your left knee is all better.
Yep... The wind is always blowing or sucking... lol
When we'd fly in or out of Hood Army Airfield... They'd say we were always flying into a head wind because no matter where you're going, the wind is either sucking or blowing... lol
Nice country and we may have to see if we can get our Runaway trailer up that way.
We love your videos. We hope to get out west again soon too.
I hope you get out west too. We're hoping to get down southwest this winter ourselves, from the northwest.
I am kind of in 2 camps I think in a NF you should label your property since it would be hard to tell otherwise it is private property, but I also like the rule that if you are on private property without permission it is trespassing even if not posted because the people that rip signs down can still be written up so it shows they have a tendency to be some place the signs have been torn down. Stay safe and healthy.
I agree, Badger. Also telling someone to stay off your private property worked for us, before we had signage up.
@@gonagain we used to be pretty open to people cutting wood and even some hunting, hiking but insurance does not like to cover peoples injuries so we had to starts saying no. The 1990's was really the end of a lot of good things.
I always enjoy your videos. I always learn alot..Thanks.
Thank you for watching, Debi. Glad we're able to help others through our videos, see you on the next one! ~~Linda
Thank you for this video of Caught Trespassing on Private land in National Forest. Just curious, how did the landowner know you were there?
Sometime during the evening hours, a vehicle came down that road very quietly and turned around. That person must have known the landowner or perhaps was the landowner himself.
It never used to be too much of a big deal, especially 20-30,40 years ago, today you have a huge explosion of off grid adventurers and you also have strange goings on. I’m quite familiar with people who’ve owned land in National Forests, and I know in some case where the Government wants the land they have, that’s another story.
Today however land owners really are scared of trespassers, thieves, vandals, & drug growers. You cannot trust anyone either, and if a person gets injured on your land you can get sued. It really is a different world it’s not just a camp out in the woods anymore.
That's the truth, especially about the liability.
good stuff,,, be well out there!
Grrrrrreat video. I loved it!!!
So beautiful and peaceful ❤👍👍
Thanks, Teresa!
Always fun sitting back and enjoying seeing both of you out driving around starting trouble. By the way I found 100 rds of Blazer brass 9mm ball at a pawn shop today for $44.00. plus tax.
Anytime you can find ammo these days, you're a lucky guy. Thanks, Larry!
No guarantee the current forest service map was updated. Don't let a game warden or ranger scare you off. Some think only they should be allowed and everyone else is trespassing in their forest. LoL I had one ranger ignore the signs to come on my property to ask where I got my fire wood we had neatly limbed and piled up. Standing in forty acres of forest. We had just bought the land and cleaning up the trash left by loggers.
We checked our maps when we got home and saw that we were on private property. We were packing up to leave when he showed up so it was okay.
Here in MO,we can mark trees with Purple paint,Band or Mark ,On trees!Means “No Tresspass”! They can’t rip off Purple Paint!!!!!!
Same in N.Y.
THANK YOU THANK YOU for that information!! Did not know that.Just about to start a van adventure in March.
In Montana the top part of fence posts are painted orange, designating private property, no hunting.
I have the Bodega TWW55 and can agree it's awesome. I really like the telescoping handle and wheels, very handy when having a picnic. Love that part of Montana, I go to the Castle Mountains east of there a lot.
Thanks for watching, Eugene! Have you gone to the ghost town around there? I read that it's on private land but you can get permission to go there. We should have it on our list of places to see.
@@gonagain The Ghost Town is pretty cool, been twice. It's right off the road and not signed private and people walk it. It's easier to get to if you come at it from the south.
Thanks for the tip, Eugene. Maybe we'll make it out there one of these days. ~~Lindas
Bear tip, once they come through they eat and usually won't be back for 3 year's because they know that's how long it will take for grubs and such to return.
Thanks for the tip, Rob.
good morning rick and linda, tony here, the splash diamond plate you have on the front of the trailer, is a great idea, but try something, the yellow bottle of rain x for the windshield to make the water fly off, apply that to the diamond plate? nothing will stick to it! also apply it to the solar panel, the out side of the windows anywhere water will collect on cause damage, . the best way to apply, pour on wipe the area in circles and let dry , then buff off,. hell i have a friend of mine down here los angeles, ca that applied it to the WHOLE TRAILER AND THE ALL THE WINDOWS ON HIS TRUCK AND THE HEADLIGHTS TOO. .sorry about that trespassing fine. , but if it wasnt posted there no fine. on private property there has to be a sign ever 1mile on a ranch spread, one in the beginning and some in between the property and one on the end. states differ but still the landowner needs to do his part too.
Great tip, Tony! I can see how that would work, thanks.
Purple stripe or diamond (such as in Texas) or orange (also sometimes yellow) paint on a post or tree is another common marker of private property in some states.
Orange in Montana.
In the west, fence posts with the tops painted orange is a sure sign of private property. In fact it is codified here in Idaho!
It is too, here in Montana. Thanks for watching, TR Bowlin!
Nice trip have fun be safe.
You two hooligans , Trespassing lol 😆glad you didn't get in trouble . Yes they should have signs up , enough that if one or two where destroyed or stolen you could still tell it was private property . We all know how the wind is but was wondering if you noticed more of it and stronger the last few years in your travels . We've sure noticed it being stronger and at times of the year that used to be kinda wind free aren't anymore . Just curious if you'd noticed . Great video as usual 👌
Hello Darell, Linda gets me into more trouble... I don't know if the wind has increased over the years, but it sure has been blowing here a lot! It's been gusting over 60mph here for the last several weeks with steady winds of 15-30.
In Utah, if there are no signs; the owner has to paint a fence post entirely yellow and it can be a tree with a large painted yellow square. I can't remember the spacing between the yellow fence post or trees but there is one. You will have to know what the distance is between the yellow painted trees and also they have a size that the paint has to be. Sometimes you will see old tires draped on fence posts painted yellow this denotes a private property. But sometimes people will deviously paint tires and hang them to stake out their hunting spot to lead you to believe it's private when in fact it's not. So a Forest Service Map is required.
Each state can be so different!
That was a pretty area. Yes, it can be difficult to know if you are on private or public land.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video and thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure!
Great video...... great info
If you are going to continue to do a lot of outdoors exploration I would suggest painting your vehicle and camper a flat tan earth tone and remove any unnecessary bling. I wouldn't go full on camo since some patterns stick out more in different environments but flat tan blends in pretty good just about anywhere. Also maybe look into some camo netting you can throw over your vehicle and camper or stretch between some trees to block your view from the road. If no one sees you no one complains. My longtime camping and fishing buddy who passed away a few years ago that is what we did with his big 75 Chevy monster truck and it worked great. Just about anywhere we parked it in the sticks or desert you wouldn't notice it at a glance anyhow. You had to be looking for it to see it.
I pretty much lived off of my 82 Goldwing Interstate motorcycle for about 10 years so being able to stealth camp was a must. When I got out of the Marines I stripped the bike down to the frame and rebuilt it as a Mad Max vehicle. I beefed up the motor and suspension. Did a lot of mods to lighten the bike. Put dual sport tires on the bike. Completely de blinged it and and painted everything flat black including the motor with heat resistant paint. I even went a bit overboard being an electronics nerd and built a lighting control module and rewired the bike in such away that I had 4 different lighting modes depending on what I was doing. I had a 3 position switch on the fairing that I could leave on standby for one of 3 different lighting modes other than normal mode and could be activated by a switch on my handlebars. One was blackout mode which shut down all lights other than a little blackout light that I made and mounted under the fairing that casted a dim beam of red light on the ground in front of me that the light source of was shielded from direct view and it activated my solenoid plate blocker. That allowed me to slowly roll into spots unseen to look for a spot to sleep for the night and still see where I am going. Another position was for limited blackout mode which blocked my plate, shut down everything other than the headlight and instrument panel in case I had to haul tail out of an area and minimize my visibility from the rear. Another mode was brake out mode. That allowed me to stay lit up normally but it would disable my brake light so I could slow down and check out the roadsides for trails, logging roads or abandoned structures to maybe pull into for the night without arousing suspicion. I made my own reversible bike cover out of some semi waterproof material I found at an upholstery supply shop, desert one side and woodland camo on the other that I could unzip the end of and fold it out enough to make a tarp shelter on the right side of my bike that I could fit my bivy tent in if needed or just sleep under it in my bedroll. Yeah that was all way overkill but I was doing a lot of contracted field telecom and construction work on the road as well as going home to Indiana at the times in between jobs so the bike was the cheapest way to do it rather than flying, renting cars and staying in hotels. All I had to do was to have my materials drop shipped to the job sites and the Wing was big enough and had enough storage space for all my tools and road gear. I rarely got messed with but I was only camping at night and bouncing at daylight so I was rarely seen and the few times I was I was able to split before anyone had time to get crappy about it. I like your videos and have fun!
I found that all really interesting, thank you. In Hawaii we ran paintball games every weekend for three years and the one thing I enjoyed the most was figuring out what was the best camo that the players used. Hint; It's not the military or name brands. What worked best in jungle AND open brush was a camo called Diamond Back, which is no longer in business. What made it great was that it contained a dull yellow, tan, black and very little pale green. There's a LOT of yellow in nature in any area and none of the camo makers have picked up on that. Even all the greens in nature are on the yellow side of the spectrum. Look at a close-up of a diamond back rattler to see what I mean.
I absolutely Adore Y'all !!! 🤩
You know that the trespassing situation could have gone a whole different route, and unfortunately probably does 🙄🤷♀️
BECAUSE, Y'all are kind-hearted, reasonable, Open-minded, ...all the reasons we subscribe & enjoy venturing with you ~ the unpredictable didn't result in a an emotional tyraid 😉 We learned with you.
🤔 Boy do I feel for the landowners! Seems like they could avoid a whole lot of these occurrences by simply putting up a few signs 🙄 ~ not to mention the more serious problems that could be prevented, especially WHEN the wrong one stumbles onto their property 😯
Thanks for sharing such Beautiful places with us too!
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Thank you for your kind words, Stacey, we appreciate hearing them.
So beautiful. So diff from where I live. Stay safe. You crazy wandering felons!!!!!!!!!
Ha. Ha. I love an honest husband. Ha. Linda hit the jackpot.
There are many apps that will have public/private layers that you can use so you will know for sure that you are on the proper side of the land you want to be on. GAIA GPS is a good one that I use so I make sure I stay on public land. These kind of maps can be downloaded for offline use as well.
Thanks, Nigel. We do use some of those apps, including GAIA, and paper maps and a Garmin gps. The map we had for that area was left behind at home and it did show we were on private land.
I don’t know much about them but there are trail cameras available with a cellular connection (Verizon, AT&T, Etc.) that can send your cell phone an alert and the picture or video that was captured. There are also ones available that have internal storage instead of using memory cards.
Thanks for the suggestion. Our trailcams were up on our off grid property with no cell reception except for 1 bar in 1 spot. Those would have been great to have, though.
Rick/Linda I'm curious what a typical days meals are for you all on the road. Also, am interested in what and how much you all carry for a road trip and how many times a week you shop for stuff? Thanks. I have learned a bunch from you all.
Hello James, we usually have at least 4 days worth of food available, plus some back-up supplies that have a long shelf life (like canned chilli, MREs, etc.) Meals on the road tend to be rice and a stir fry of meat and vegetables, spagetti with sausage, saimin with meat, egg and veggies added and other, simple to cook, one dish meals. With the refrigeration we always have fresh meats and vegetables on hand to fix something up. It's never fancy because I find that when you are eating outside your food gets cold too fast, even though we always use insulated bowls. I hope this info helps.
looks so clean.
Our campsites out here tend to be pretty clean, but not always.
Thanks so very much for sharing this information 🥰
Good video……..informative and inspiring. When was this recorded?
This was recorded the first week of October.
Thanks. This was very helpful.
Thank you, this has been very informative.
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching, Suzane.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
I might have bought your explanation, but then there was the prior transgression straddling the double yellow line a few videos ago. My concern right now is whether a thumbs up to the video will be construed as being an accessory to the crime; but I will take that chance since I enjoy your channel so much. America's most wanted here we come!
We're in it together, David! Thanks for sticking with us. ~~Linda
We had a property in plumes county and people camping on it all the time leaving garbage. So, I understand the owner. We posted sign but they just got torn down.
Signs on our off grid property got torn down and the sd cards from the game cams got taken out.
@@gonagain best is to get cameras that broadcast to a different device or some even use satellite links to store your footage and pictures directly to a cloud based account so thieves can't just take an SD card. Unfortunately people won't stop unless you have an altercation with them. Signs and cameras usually don't work on the average bear.
Look up the purple paint law. It is not in every state but Travelers need to know about it
Is that where purple front doors originated?
I've heard about the purple paint law, here in Montana it's orange paint on the top part of a fencepost. It designates private property, and no hunting is allowed.
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Actually... In Montana, painting a post or tree with orange paint doesn't mean anything. A lot of people do it but the correct way according to the regulations is to paint a board with orange paint and then attach the board to the post or tree. Even then, it doesn't mean "no hunting". What it does mean is " no hunting without permission.
@@gonagain awesome information. The various colors maybe very good info for a video. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. You can pretty much plan on Criminal Trespass if you find one of these posts and go beyond it
Beautiful country. Trespassing? I don't know Montana laws, but down here, Tx, the property has to be marked as private. The most frequent marking you will run into, is a purple blaze about eye level on the trees bordering the property, usually about 100' apart. The purple blaze is recognized in every state I have hunted in, tho not Montana. I would love the maps of the various areas, but as you said, you sure can tie up a lot of dough in them. Love your videos, y'all stay safe.
Montana has the orange blaze on the top part of fence posts or on trees, even on boulders. Hope you had a successful hunting season.
Another Great video
Thanks, Douglas!
Camping on private property? Oh great, now Jo-Ann and I are associated with the criminal element, our reputations are shot! LOL jk
Looks like a nice trip guys. Thanks for sharing. That was a lot of bull in the beginning. :)
Wasn't Linda supposed to remind you to take that map?
That's what I thought! I KNEW it was HER fault!
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They have these new fangled computer applications that fit on small mobile devices. The applications download map data so you can see the boundaries in the palm of your hand. You can download the maps so you aren't reliant on cellular.
That's very true, but those maps that show land ownership are usually expensive, even in an ap, and only cover a small area. For someone who's traveling from state to state and doesn't know exactly where they are going to end up on a daily basis (that would be us), they're not an option.
Outdoorsy and ice cream. My kind of people. If in your travels you come across Hudsonville ice cream give it a try. Popular in the upper Midwest 🍨
Hudsonville ice cream is now on our radar. We don't travel that way too often but we'll be looking when we do. Thanks, Joel.
You made that law enforcement officers' day , he got to exercise his job description in a lonely land. Private land adjoining national forest needs to be posted if the landowner does not want trespassers on ones' property. Some landowners are obliging to those wishing to use their land while others are not. That has been my experience.