i loved the movie "black swan," and i've watched it several times. i don't think there's anything wrong with ms. lane speaking honestly about her involvement in the movie. i do, however, feel that the movie's director and its lead actors should have been just as honest about the amount of actual dancing they did in the film. dancers work for years to perfect their art, and for natalie portman to claim that she had taken ballet as a child and that she spent a year preparing for her role in the movie, belittles the work of professional ballet dancers everywhere
The people we should be pointing fingers would be Media! Natalie never lied about the amount of dancing she did perform. She had to learn the entire number of course WE would be stupid idiots if WE believed she performed the entire dance segment! The difficult numbers are going to require the life devotion of a professional dancer, in this case a ballerina. As a dancer of 25+ years I am embarrassed that Sarah has come across in all of her personal interviews as this whining, complaining, poor sport, in this video alone "It's different if it's just acting, we are getting your body to function like you need it to as a professional athlete”. She went on to say that those in her industry work hours & hours to perfect our bodies & numbers. Doesn’t she realize it’s the same for actors? They spend hours & hours learning their lines by memory in addition to the emotions, how it will appear on film, making it believable while coordinating the expected movements in a relatively small number of takes. They too work long hours with little to no sleep between shoots. They travel all over the place then back again, working around the light & depending on the scenes requirement sometimes all night long. If Sarah, who as a professional dancer, I mean “Professional athlete”, has had training on how to conduct herself professionally in interviews as well as how to speak in the aforementioned interviews; were to listen to all of the posted UA-cam videos of her interviews she would see how difficult acting can be. Her responses prove how difficult is, which is sad because she is answering pre-reviewed & personal questions- her only job is to answer them with heartfelt sincerity, though her videos show her as an awkward, “um” speaking every other word, & blinking uncontrollably (a clinical sign of lying or falsifying truth). Both professions require years of training to perfect, & even then still require training to maintain or further personal goal gain. In this argument Natalie sadly prevails yet again, fore she has never lied about her part in the Black Swan production; she was not involved in the classic sensationalism of our country’s Media sources that caused a tremendous portion of this problem. With regards to the Oscar, an award issued to actors for their acting portion of the film, Sarah should be happy for Natalie. Natalie did do just that, a WONDERFUL job ACTING & showed impressive attempts at dancing (nothing she is familiar with) giving 100% dedication & focus during her training. She is unlike so many other actors, she tried & understands our incredible world of dance!!!!! Tony’s are the award more geared for the artistic sector, something Sarah would have been more than worthy of earning. Sadly, Sarah has made herself out to be a poor sport, a whiny loser, has conducted herself unprofessionally for the ABT as well as personally as a self-proclaimed “PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE”. My 2 & 8 year olds have better sportsmanship than she does. I would’ve been a big fan for life had this whole debacle never occurred the way she made it out to be. The power was in her hands, she chose wrong & I pray it doesn’t continue to haunt her for the life of her career.
You are right. This type of thing happened with the dance double in Flashdance, Marine Jahan. I somewhat understand what actors must need to achieve to win the Oscar. However, I believe everyone who works on or in a film should be credited for their work or craft. We should have seen Sarah Lane's name in the credits as is listed in every other film where an actor does not do his or her own work. Although I enjoy watching the films with big names, I don't necessarily get into who wins the Oscar because I like what I like while watching the movie. I am one who stays in the theater to view the credits at the end because some roles or acting are really good that I'd want to know who performed it even if the role was not a lead or obvious.
i think the point Sarah was trying to make is that becoming so good at ballet like they made Natalie Portman (who i totally respect and admire as an actress) look in so little time is not possible and they technically made it look like she had all the credit, all the physical work done for this films dancing is demanding and of course she is upset, because they basically said "Shut up until Natalie wins an Oscar"
Patrizia Cavaliere I agree with this statement. No question, Natalie Portman is a talented actress, and her performance in this movie was great. However, I'm on Sarah Lane's side about the dance performance needing to be credited where it rightfully should be, to the honest and amazing work of the dancers. It's not a case of Portman versus Lane.. but Hollywood versus the truth. On a side note, I also didn't feel Portman had the best performance amongst the other nominees. Michelle Williams for the movie Blue Valentine had a much more brilliant acting and emotional performance onscreen. Williams, lived with her lead co-star (Ryan Gosling) for a month to help create the needed chemistry for her acting performance. So... I don't bash Portman, but as for the dancing performance, I believe Hollywood should pay credit to where it's owed.
They should put "shut up" part into her contract! Her voice is so annoying! I think she's trying to became famous by discrediting Natalie. It's so unproffessional
Sarah didn't want fame or to tear Natalie down, it's just that people that aren't educated in the art of ballet may think that Natalie became a prima ballerina in a year, which is degrading to the ballet world.
I completely agree with you, but what i find infuriating is that this wasn't only degrading to Sarah Lane it's also very degrading to the art of ballet and ballerinas all over the world. I've been dancing since I was 2 and I work really hard in class and to say that Natalie has become a professional ballerina in just a year and a half, that is completely degrading to ballet, people don't realize how physically and psychologically demanding it is and how hard ballet really is.
Exactly!! So well said!! Ballet dancers are world class athletes and it takes decades to become one if even you do after all that time is even rarer. SARAH LANE is the REAL dancer who did ALL the dancing in Black Swan. Natalie’s had shots and arms waving in upper body and head shots is not dancing. The inimitable SARAH LANE with American Ballet theatre is the real dancer. Aronovsky the director and the entire movie makers SILENCED SARAH LANE from speaking up and doing any interviews as they told her that Natalie was going to get the oscar and they couldn’t have anyone speaking about the fact that she did not doing any of the dancing that it is ALL SARHA LANE’S Body CGI onto Portman’s head. And after all these years, Portman is still talking about how she studied to become a ballet dancer and she didn’t think she could do it but she went into her fear and did it. She did not. She did not become a ballet dancer ever. 1 year or 1 and half years does not a ballerina make. Also, it requires so much for than just years of rigorous Olympic style commitment. Your body type yiur feet the proportions of your limps everything yiur heart yiur soul yiur mind and yiur spirit all make you into a phenomenal ballerina along with 20+ years of dedication of some times more than 8 hours a day once your a teenager. I know because I did that. I know what it takes and I witnessed some of the renowned ballerinas by my side who went on to be the primary ballerinas in the biggest companies in the world. The LIES Portman and the director ET al tell about Portman training as a ballerina to do this role amd all this dancing is a crazy insult to the profound rigorous art form that professional ballet is. And an insult to the beautiful SARAH LANE whose 22 years she dedicated and sacrificed in order to become the beauty that yiu all see here in this BLACK SWAN film amd whom all those Oscar’s votes believed the CGI’d body of SARAH LANE’s was Portman’s. Not movie magic in this case, movie deception and fraud. Imagine dedicating your life and lending yiur gift to a project and then being told afterwards that you have to kee yiur mouth shut about it because they want someone else to get a HUGE award for what you contributed to the project but they don’t want you to have any credit for yiur part in making it so beautiful and powerful and they want all the credit to go to someone else. It’s just eveil. And people are so ignorant to actually believe movie lies.
You must have not a clue of ballet to believe that a grown up woman can acchieve such a level of perfection for training less than 2 years . A lack of a respect for this ballet dancer.
This is completely degrading to ballet, no one realizes how hard ballet is and how physically and psychologically demanding ballet really is. Ballet requires pull up, turn out, flexibility, strength, "standing on our toes", elongation, the use of the floor, the use of our upper back, technique and many more. Ballerinas are amazingly strong and to think that Natalie could do that in just a year and a half is completely insulting and degrading. to ballet and ballerinas.It'scompletely unacceptable.
When I was watching the film, all I took notice of the character of Nina, how gifted she was and how consuming the ballet world, what epic scope and depth it really had. But only after it's over, does everyone analyze all the little details of the production. Natalie got all the credit for this and Lane who did all the real dancing, helped to train Natalie herself... all the awards and ovations for Nina... all for Natalie. No , I suppose it isn't fair, is it? --Props for Sarah, Dane Youssef
It really did disturb me when looking at the credits after Black Swan in the theatre. I have been training in classical ballet for 12 years and I knew that has soon as the movie started she had a body double, and not seeing the credit of "body double" at the end was complete deception. Sarah deserves 100% of the credit for her beautiful performance of odette/odile and it's very disappointing that Natalie Portman would not have given her credit or even mentioned her name in her acceptance speech.
I rewatched "Black Swan" in July 2024 and I saw Sarah Lane's name in the "stunt" credits next to other ballerinas. I don't know if it was there at the time or if they have edited and added to it in recent years. But on the other hand, this movie makes me feel better every time I watch it, I'm inspired and am trying to learn ballet.
She really caught my eyes when i watching YAGP, her arms and upper body is amazing(for people watch a lot YAGP competition videos would understand what I mean, most young dancers focus too much on feet and got a little stiff on upper body)I fall in love with her without knowing she was the dance double. I feel so angry about people bitching about her asking for a proper credit. Seriously what's wrong with that?? Isn't it obvious in the movie most of the dance is not done by Natalie? NOBODY can dance like that with one year of ballet training no matter what genius you are. Natalie did a great job on acting and she won Oscar for ACTING not DANCING, it IS necessary to let those ignorance people know that giving Natalie too much dancing credit is just not right. Sarah didn't just speak for herself, she was asking people to pay all ballerinas a proper respect. For those who think ballet can be mastered within one year...I can only say that you have learnt nothing from the movie Black Swan, you know nothing about ballet and stop judging. I am a big Natalie fan since Leon the Professional but still, Natalie SHOULD thank her dance double in public. No matter what , I enjoy Sarah's dance a lot. I hope everyone just forget about this movie mess and throw away all the prejudice and enjoy her dance purely.
This wasn’t a ballet, it was a movie with dancing. Natalie was the actress. She was a body double. How many body doubles do you see coming out and demanding that they figure out the math of the amount of times it was actually them in screen? She should be happy to have that on her resume as a complete unknown. Wonder how many other movie body double roles she will get now? She is trying to act like she is “standing up for the art.” When in reality she wants her 15 minutes of fame. She did her job and Natalie did hers.
The studios and Oscar campaigns were the ones who originally brought up the percentages to try and make Natalie's performance look more impressive, Sarah just pointed out that those percentages were lies. Calling a principal dancer at ABT a 'complete unknown' just proves her point that ballet dancers are under appreciated by the clueless public lol
iamnotcynical well she did... watch the credits. She wanted fame and she was a double its pathetic. It was no different than hiring a stunt double. So delusional.
@@claudiamoriborjas7341 that's pretty insulting and belittling to be frank. By your logic, you shouldn't be recognised for doing your job, whatever that may be, because your employer could've hired someone else? so anyone in employment is worthless? I guess then Natalie shouldn't be credited for her role because she could've been replaced by any other actress. Very strange take.
She deserves complete recognition for her work in Black Swan, I cannot imagine how strenuous and difficult that must have been. Natalie and the PR team definitely seemed to downplay how much Sarah did, for the sake of Natalie's shot at the Oscars it seems. Unfortunate, I believe everyone should know the truth. Natalie is an amazing actress, and deserves recognition for her acting in the movie-everyone was praising her dancing too much.
Sarah is a perfectionist who has devoted her life to achieving the highest technical skill and artistic balance and grace. It takes years to get to where she is on the stage making it all seem so effortless. The dilemma of Hollywood is: Where does art begin and end? For an actress to play a ballerina with one year of training is impossible, physically speaking. It takes about 4-5 years just to get strong enough for point! Natalie did a great job "acting" like a dancer. Sarah IS a dancer.
As a former ballet dancer, I support Sarah speaking the truth. It’s an insult to those of us who worked all our lives to make it as a ballet dancer for someone who is NOT a professional ballet dancer to be lorded as one after only a year and a half of training. It’s impossible
Sarah LANE est talentueuse la danse classique demande énormément de travail et de sacrifice elle méritait de recevoir une récompense plus que méritée pour sa superbe prestation dans le film Black Swan. Ce film était comme un mensonge !
@LimeGreenTriforce She doesn't need attention, she is to the ballet world what Natalie Portman is to the acting world; she was a star before her role in Black Swan.
@zaculyar2 She was hired to dance, not to show her body. Sure it was a movie, but there is a huge difference between dancing which is an art and requires a lot of talent and hard work and just showing one's body. They could've just written, but regardless of credits, the issue is that the producers went on and on about how much dancing Natalie Portman did which was misleading.
there's one thing: this film was in the works for 10 years. It only makes sense that she would train for a year, and she had a coach and her husband the dancer in the NYC ballet, and darren who she had a relationship with prior to filming; and she is a harvard grad she wouldn't cheat. But look: the movies is a business. they told her to quiet cause they didn't want to degrade the business regardless of what she did or didn't do.
I am sooo with you there on that. It annoys me to no end how much over-lauded Portman is in general (has there ever been an article about her that didn't mention her Ivy League degree and just how smart/sophisticated/cultured she is?).
Some people forget NP won the Oscar for her INTERPRETATION of Nina, not because she could or couldn't dance. And all those comments about "a real ballerina wouldn't wear those shoes or leggins"... well, she's not the one choosing what her character wears. Think twice before saying so many stupid things. They both did a great job, NP acting and SL dancing. THAT'S ALL.
However, being so picky and so called "attacking" Natalie, isn't that degrading ballet too? It gives ballet dancers a bad image as well of everyone thinks ballerinas are as picky as her. I do ballet too and it's true that ballet is not easy and not many people credit ballet dancers. I respect Sarah as a ballet dancer but lost that respect when her attitude was as such. Good for you Sarah.
Also, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to undermine the differences in difficulty of sitting around for hours and acting and sitting around for hours and dancing. I've experienced that with acting but never with dancing and I can't even imagine how grueling it must be. Its not that I'm saying that she dramatizing the challenges of film dancing but the fact that she had to overcome all those challenges, I was surprised by her comment.
Jessica Zeller, author of Shapes of American Ballet: Teachers and Training Before Balanchine said a very interesting thing about this idiotic movie: "Black Swan is similarly a relic of a time when ballerinas were voiceless-when, like the swans of Swan Lake, ballet was trapped under the spell of patriarchal leadership. “Women have been raised from such a young age to be a certain degree of deferent in ballet,” she says. “In their training, they don't have a voice; they don't speak; they don't have agency or license.” Many dancers reclaimed that voice when, only a month after Hollywood’s Harvey Weinstein scandal in 2017, NYCB’s Artistic Director, Peter Martins, was accused of sexual harassment and physical and verbal abuse-plunging the ballet community into a #MeToo revolution of its own." You can say that Sarah Lane was a bit of a forerunner to Metoo...the first one who spoke up. Not against direct harassment but against indirect neglect and ignorance.
The point is that Sarah Lane got NO credit! zero! She embodies the opposite paradigm from the deceptive message of the movie (the ballerina had to become self-destructive and depraved to portray the vigorous, powerful and beautiful black swan. Sarah Lane embodies beauty, sexuality and grace without drugs, alcohol or marked sexual depravity. HUGE dif between a true athlete and Natalie Portman which detracts from the movie -better to make the real ballerina into an actress than try to push lie.
We loved seeing the archival clips of Sarah here, but as professional dance videographers it's hard to understand why the older clips were allowed to be presented here in what is obviously an incorrect aspect ratio? They make the lithe and exquisite Sarah look like a fireplug! Shame on Dance Channel TV!
I don't really understand why there was such a huge fuss about Black Swan. They credited her as Natalie's "stunt double", which is EXACTLY what she was. Natalie had every right to let others know how hard she worked for that movie. She may not have done the harder dances, but the amount of work that goes into just getting a ballerina's posture, grace, footwork, etc. is still extreme. Plus, Natalie was working on another job WHILE going to ballet practice and actors usually work 12-13 hour days.
@bernessacookie Welcome to the real world. For most of the audience of the movie ballet is something that they've likely only seen a tiny bit of and then paid it little to no attention. When people first become aware of an artform they minimize it till they know better. How many ballet dancers think other forms of dance are easy UNTIL they try to do them WELL? How many artists have had to sit through the "I drew/painted/did a sculpture once so I can do what you do easily. Or actors be told that what they do is just "playing around". Everyone gets that treatment until people care enough to find out about what it really takes to do their artform. Frankly a casual peek at Abby Lee Miller and the realization that ballet teachers can be even more exacting should give them a little understanding about what you have to go through at a really young age.
Some countries call the rank solist and some countries call the same rank principal. Same thing. Some countries have principals and under them soloists. In the Netherlands the top are soloists and under them are 2nd soloists.
in some ways your right, It's true that Sarah Lane actually got more credit then most doubles do, but when Aronofosky told her to hide that she did the REAL ballet dancing in the film, because it was bad for Natalie's image, he was actually creating an unnecessary problem for himself, because that only made her look worse, once it got out, bottom line is though, that it's not Natalie's, OR Sarah's fault, That's just my opinion
I think that you misunderstood her, because when she said that, she meant that for her it's different to solely act versus having to act PLUS making sure her body is ready to do the actual dancing for the movie, so I don't feel like she was disrespecting the film industry or anything -- she was just referring to her personal experience.
Praising Natalie for how hard she worked does not cheapen Sarah's work in any way. However, Sarah's job in this movie was to dance and look like Natalie, THAT's what she was hired for, so naturally that's what she was credited for. There have been plenty of other films about dance where dancers are listed as "stunt doubles" and none of them raised a stink about it. Natalie was amazing in that movie - it's sad that some people are trying to tear her down.
@MyGoddes She didn't need to do auditions. She is a soloist at the ABT which is the top ballet company in the US and they wanted her. They needed to have someone at a her level of a similar height with Natalie. There aren't that many dancers like this around. Plus, Natalie's baby's daddy knew her from ABT work. As to her being stiff and Natalie graceful - you have no clue. Close-ups of Natalie's arm movements were pretty awkward, and even an average ballet fan like me can tell when they switch.
Natalie did not get to "the same level." She could never dance an entire ballet because, those shots at the beginning and end where she is en pointe, flapping her wings? That is the ONLY move she can do on her toes. She did all the rest of her dances, but she did them in flat shoes. Any other time you see the dancer's entire body and she is en pointe, it's somebody else. There's a scene in the studio where the camera is focused on Vincent Cassel as the character in question dances by.
I noticed in her "Giselle" that the upper body is not quite as fluid yet as someone who, perhaps, has had more opportunitie to do the role. She says herself that the goal is to become un-selfconscious and "mature" in dancing; she is beautiful and I, too hope she is given many more opportunities to grow in some of the roles she desires. It's amazing how much dedicationi and work they have to put in daily in order to have a few chances to shine.
Natalie cannot dance ballet. It takes years and years of training to even make simple steps at a professional level. It's just impossible, it's like starting to learn piano at 30 and thinking that you can sound like a concert pianist. Even at a simple piece anybody would tell the difference. This is the same. Ballet is very hard. Look at some of children videos here.
She made the decision to defend her art, the people involved in Black swan lied about ballet itself, if your going to make a movie about a subject like ballet, and not have real ballet dancers in the movie, the least they can do is tell the truth about it, it's just that simple.
@swinche95 No she doesn't. She is very graceful and very good. The scenes shown are from the first act of Giselle where she is playing a shy innocent girl.
Brody did play the piano in the pianist, at least for nocturne in c. And Natalie Portman won the oscar for masterful acting. Being a dancer myself, it wasn't her "dancing" I was impressed with, but the way she played the role. Why do people feel passionately about this. The reason Sarah Lane wasn't credited at first is because she is not as famous as Natalie Portman--few dancers are famous. It's not some scheme or some conspiracy. Great films are composite works of art that require many talents.
Sarah was direct, poised and articulate. Utterly ridiculous to focus on such minutiae when one has the opportunity to hear such a wonderful artist speak. Idiots.
It didn't bother me as much as it bothered so many of you. Her job doesn't include televised interviews and she's not used to it. It would be interesting to see how most of those complaining would express themselves if invited to an interview that would be available worldwide on UA-cam and other channels.
Until the dancer passes the actor she is out of focus and on her toes. Then she passes the actor and the actor slides out of focus and the dancer slides into focus. You can see it is Natalie. And the camera cuts off her feet. Go and look at that scene again. Notice the posture of the dancer before the change in focus and after. Her spine is so perfect, it's like you rolled a big human-sized ball into place and her whole body is taut and perfectly curved backward around it.
You can notice that she enjoys talking about her carrier and her dancing rather than the movie. Its a shame that the spotlight has been put on her because of this black swan controversy when there is more to her than that.
such bullshit. she knew what she signed up for. people use body doubles all the time. natalie trained 5 hrs a day 6 days a week for nearly two years. of course she isnt going to have the skill level of a professional ballerina. remember flashdance lol?
+Isa Shisha (aka Isa's Pieces) I dont think so.... this is different. It's is not like everyone could do it in a year, why Natalie Portman? I think is better to accept and just enjoy the movie.
She signed up to do the ballet dancing for the movie, she did not sign up for Natalie and the producers to appropriate her lifelong ballet skills so that it would appear that Natalie herself did all the dancing in order to win the Oscar, or the 'False Idol' Natalie has gone on to call it since. Yeah, right. False idol my ass, Natalie. It takes nearly a lifetime to become as good as Sarah Lane is right now, so for Natalie and her producers to try to make it seem that Natalie did most of that dancing with only a year and a half of training... do you not see how wrong this is??? If you don't, you suck. Plain and simple.
shadelings no, its not wrong, this "Sarah' is just a tool, she needs to learn how to play her role and keep quiet. The women in color purple comes to mind. She did not sing the last song, a spanish woman did. But did she go around declaring that it was her.. no, but people found out eventually and she gets the glory. There is no glory in what this "sarah' did to the legacy of the black swan movie. she really shouldve just shut up.
SHARE H!S V!S!0N Yeah, the only glory being actually making Natalie look like she became a professional ballerina in under two years. Without Sara, no way would Natalie had been able to pull that off. It's taken Sara all of her life to be able to become a professional ballerina, so it's incredibly insulting for Natalie and her producers to lie and make it sound like Natalie did most of the dancing, when she didn't. "...she needs to learn how to play her role and keep quiet...." That quote alone tells me you got issues, dude. smh.
Ballet dancers are world class dancers and it takes decades to become one if even you do after all that time is even rarer. SARAH LANE is the REAL dancer who did ALL the dancing in Black Swan. Natalie’s had shots and arms waving in upper body and head shots is not dancing. The inimitable SARAH LANE with American Ballet theatre is the real dancer. Aronovsky the director and the entire movie makers SILENCED SARAH LANE from speaking up and doing any interviews as they told her that Natalie was going to get the oscar and they couldn’t have anyone speaking about the fact that she did not doing any of the dancing that it is ALL SARHA LANE’S Body CGI onto Portman’s head. And after all these years, Portman is still talking about how she studied to become a ballet dancer and she didn’t think she could do it but she went into her fear and did it. She did not. She did not become a ballet dancer ever. 1 year or 1 and half years does not a ballerina make. Also, it requires so much for than just years of rigorous Olympic style commitment. Your body type yiur feet the proportions of your limps everything yiur heart yiur soul yiur mind and yiur spirit all make you into a phenomenal ballerina along with 20+ years of dedication of some times more than 8 hours a day once your a teenager. I know because I did that. I know what it takes and I witnessed some of the renowned ballerinas by my side who went on to be the primary ballerinas in the biggest companies in the world. The LIES Portman and the director ET al tell about Portman training as a ballerina to do this role amd all this dancing is a crazy insult to the profound rigorous art form that professional ballet is. And an insult to the beautiful SARAH LANE whose 22 years she dedicated and sacrificed in order to become the beauty that yiu all see here in this BLACK SWAN film amd whom all those Oscar’s votes believed the CGI’d body of SARAH LANE’s was Portman’s. Not movie magic in this case, movie deception and fraud. Imagine dedicating your life and lending yiur gift to a project and then being told afterwards that you have to kee yiur mouth shut about it because they want someone else to get a HUGE award for what you contributed to the project but they don’t want you to have any credit for yiur part in making it so beautiful and powerful and they want all the credit to go to someone else. It’s just eveil. And people are so ignorant to actually believe movie lies.
Some of you people are taking this Natalie vs. Sarah arguments way too seriously. I mean, come on, it has been a year and a half since the movie came out. Give it a rest. Unless you were on the set and heard everything and heard everything everyone said through the whole drama, you don't know what really happened. Go analyze and debate something useful.
well yes but Portman did in fact train for a year for the role, and now it's obvious that Lane does deserve credit, which she got. I just think that it's ridiculous that a double wants more credit than she really deserved and came out about it the way she did. I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just that she did in fact train for a year and she did a fantastic job. in fact Sarah lane said she deserved the oscar. I just hate how Lane handled herself and bitched about the movie the way she did.
don't get me wrong, she's a GREAT dancer, but this was not her movie, and she did not need the credit. she got the paycheck she agreed to, and that was her contribution. stunt doubles never get credit for all they do and all the injuries they acquire, and while I understand that dance is a very sacred art, she was essentially a stunt double in this film. that's how the industry works, she was just seeking attention and causing unnecessary controversy
the same thing was done with "chasing mavericks" and i haven't seen the surfer double going out and claiming that it was all his. I think Sarah is being way to dramatic and just wants fame.
The fact people actually believe Natalie was made into a principal ballerina in 1 1/2 years shows just how most people do not understand that this art form is NOT easy and if someone could be made into a prima ballerina in that amount of time, everyone would be a prima ballerina
Can ballerinas quit it with the, “nobody actually appreciates it for how difficult it is, and oh they think it’s easy cause we make it look easy” that’s simply not true. It’s like she’s lost all faith in humanity or something. We don’t feel sorry for you hun. You look amazing and you dance very beautifully. You make it look effortless and because I’m not dumb, I recognize that making something look easy is called being a professional. And regardless of whether or not we’ve ever done ballet, we have sense enough to know that it is not easy. Thanks boo
i loved the movie "black swan," and i've watched it several times. i don't think there's anything wrong with ms. lane speaking honestly about her involvement in the movie. i do, however, feel that the movie's director and its lead actors should have been just as honest about the amount of actual dancing they did in the film. dancers work for years to perfect their art, and for natalie portman to claim that she had taken ballet as a child and that she spent a year preparing for her role in the movie, belittles the work of professional ballet dancers everywhere
The people we should be pointing fingers would be Media! Natalie never lied about the amount of dancing she did perform. She had to learn the entire number of course WE would be stupid idiots if WE believed she performed the entire dance segment! The difficult numbers are going to require the life devotion of a professional dancer, in this case a ballerina. As a dancer of 25+ years I am embarrassed that Sarah has come across in all of her personal interviews as this whining, complaining, poor sport, in this video alone "It's different if it's just acting, we are getting your body to function like you need it to as a professional athlete”. She went on to say that those in her industry work hours & hours to perfect our bodies & numbers. Doesn’t she realize it’s the same for actors? They spend hours & hours learning their lines by memory in addition to the emotions, how it will appear on film, making it believable while coordinating the expected movements in a relatively small number of takes. They too work long hours with little to no sleep between shoots. They travel all over the place then back again, working around the light & depending on the scenes requirement sometimes all night long. If Sarah, who as a professional dancer, I mean “Professional athlete”, has had training on how to conduct herself professionally in interviews as well as how to speak in the aforementioned interviews; were to listen to all of the posted UA-cam videos of her interviews she would see how difficult acting can be. Her responses prove how difficult is, which is sad because she is answering pre-reviewed & personal questions- her only job is to answer them with heartfelt sincerity, though her videos show her as an awkward, “um” speaking every other word, & blinking uncontrollably (a clinical sign of lying or falsifying truth). Both professions require years of training to perfect, & even then still require training to maintain or further personal goal gain. In this argument Natalie sadly prevails yet again, fore she has never lied about her part in the Black Swan production; she was not involved in the classic sensationalism of our country’s Media sources that caused a tremendous portion of this problem. With regards to the Oscar, an award issued to actors for their acting portion of the film, Sarah should be happy for Natalie. Natalie did do just that, a WONDERFUL job ACTING & showed impressive attempts at dancing (nothing she is familiar with) giving 100% dedication & focus during her training. She is unlike so many other actors, she tried & understands our incredible world of dance!!!!! Tony’s are the award more geared for the artistic sector, something Sarah would have been more than worthy of earning. Sadly, Sarah has made herself out to be a poor sport, a whiny loser, has conducted herself unprofessionally for the ABT as well as personally as a self-proclaimed “PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE”. My 2 & 8 year olds have better sportsmanship than she does. I would’ve been a big fan for life had this whole debacle never occurred the way she made it out to be. The power was in her hands, she chose wrong & I pray it doesn’t continue to haunt her for the life of her career.
Vanessa your comment is perfect.
You are right. This type of thing happened with the dance double in Flashdance, Marine Jahan. I somewhat understand what actors must need to achieve to win the Oscar. However, I believe everyone who works on or in a film should be credited for their work or craft. We should have seen Sarah Lane's name in the credits as is listed in every other film where an actor does not do his or her own work. Although I enjoy watching the films with big names, I don't necessarily get into who wins the Oscar because I like what I like while watching the movie. I am one who stays in the theater to view the credits at the end because some roles or acting are really good that I'd want to know who performed it even if the role was not a lead or obvious.
I’m curious if Natalie was limited on what she was allowed to say
I like the fact this interview has so many scenes of her dancing as well!
i think the point Sarah was trying to make is that becoming so good at ballet like they made Natalie Portman (who i totally respect and admire as an actress) look in so little time is not possible and they technically made it look like she had all the credit, all the physical work done for this films dancing is demanding and of course she is upset, because they basically said "Shut up until Natalie wins an Oscar"
Patrizia Cavaliere I agree with this statement. No question, Natalie Portman is a talented actress, and her performance in this movie was great. However, I'm on Sarah Lane's side about the dance performance needing to be credited where it rightfully should be, to the honest and amazing work of the dancers. It's not a case of Portman versus Lane.. but Hollywood versus the truth. On a side note, I also didn't feel Portman had the best performance amongst the other nominees. Michelle Williams for the movie Blue Valentine had a much more brilliant acting and emotional performance onscreen. Williams, lived with her lead co-star (Ryan Gosling) for a month to help create the needed chemistry for her acting performance. So... I don't bash Portman, but as for the dancing performance, I believe Hollywood should pay credit to where it's owed.
She didn't sound upset. She was amazingly graceful.
+funnyshite83 So the dancing sealed the Oscar for Natalie.
They should put "shut up" part into her contract! Her voice is so annoying! I think she's trying to became famous by discrediting Natalie. It's so unproffessional
well screw
Sarah didn't want fame or to tear Natalie down, it's just that people that aren't educated in the art of ballet may think that Natalie became a prima ballerina in a year, which is degrading to the ballet world.
I completely agree with you, but what i find infuriating is that this wasn't only degrading to Sarah Lane it's also very degrading to the art of ballet and ballerinas all over the world. I've been dancing since I was 2 and I work really hard in class and to say that Natalie has become a professional ballerina in just a year and a half, that is completely degrading to ballet, people don't realize how physically and psychologically demanding it is and how hard ballet really is.
Exactly!! So well said!! Ballet dancers are world class athletes and it takes decades to become one if even you do after all that time is even rarer. SARAH LANE is the REAL dancer who did ALL the dancing in Black Swan. Natalie’s had shots and arms waving in upper body and head shots is not dancing. The inimitable SARAH LANE with American Ballet theatre is the real dancer. Aronovsky the director and the entire movie makers SILENCED SARAH LANE from speaking up and doing any interviews as they told her that Natalie was going to get the oscar and they couldn’t have anyone speaking about the fact that she did not doing any of the dancing that it is ALL SARHA LANE’S Body CGI onto Portman’s head. And after all these years, Portman is still talking about how she studied to become a ballet dancer and she didn’t think she could do it but she went into her fear and did it. She did not. She did not become a ballet dancer ever. 1 year or 1 and half years does not a ballerina make. Also, it requires so much for than just years of rigorous Olympic style commitment. Your body type yiur feet the proportions of your limps everything yiur heart yiur soul yiur mind and yiur spirit all make you into a phenomenal ballerina along with 20+ years of dedication of some times more than 8 hours a day once your a teenager. I know because I did that. I know what it takes and I witnessed some of the renowned ballerinas by my side who went on to be the primary ballerinas in the biggest companies in the world.
The LIES Portman and the director ET al tell about Portman training as a ballerina to do this role amd all this dancing is a crazy insult to the profound rigorous art form that professional ballet is. And an insult to the beautiful SARAH LANE whose 22 years she dedicated and sacrificed in order to become the beauty that yiu all see here in this BLACK SWAN film amd whom all those Oscar’s votes believed the CGI’d body of SARAH LANE’s was Portman’s. Not movie magic in this case, movie deception and fraud. Imagine dedicating your life and lending yiur gift to a project and then being told afterwards that you have to kee yiur mouth shut about it because they want someone else to get a HUGE award for what you contributed to the project but they don’t want you to have any credit for yiur part in making it so beautiful and powerful and they want all the credit to go to someone else. It’s just eveil. And people are so ignorant to actually believe movie lies.
You must have not a clue of ballet to believe that a grown up woman can acchieve such a level of perfection for training less than 2 years . A lack of a respect for this ballet dancer.
It would be impossible in five years, let alone two. I think. I also believe Natalie Portman trained for less than one year.
This is completely degrading to ballet, no one realizes how hard ballet is and how physically and psychologically demanding ballet really is. Ballet requires pull up, turn out, flexibility, strength, "standing on our toes", elongation, the use of the floor, the use of our upper back, technique and many more. Ballerinas are amazingly strong and to think that Natalie could do that in just a year and a half is completely insulting and degrading. to ballet and ballerinas.It'scompletely unacceptable.
When I was watching the film, all I took notice of the character of Nina, how gifted she was and how consuming the ballet world, what epic scope and depth it really had.
But only after it's over, does everyone analyze all the little details of the production. Natalie got all the credit for this and Lane who did all the real dancing, helped to train Natalie herself... all the awards and ovations for Nina... all for Natalie. No , I suppose it isn't fair, is it?
--Props for Sarah, Dane Youssef
she is a beautiful dancer!
It really did disturb me when looking at the credits after Black Swan in the theatre. I have been training in classical ballet for 12 years and I knew that has soon as the movie started she had a body double, and not seeing the credit of "body double" at the end was complete deception. Sarah deserves 100% of the credit for her beautiful performance of odette/odile and it's very disappointing that Natalie Portman would not have given her credit or even mentioned her name in her acceptance speech.
I rewatched "Black Swan" in July 2024 and I saw Sarah Lane's name in the "stunt" credits next to other ballerinas. I don't know if it was there at the time or if they have edited and added to it in recent years. But on the other hand, this movie makes me feel better every time I watch it, I'm inspired and am trying to learn ballet.
SARAH, YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL DANCER AND PERSON, KEEP FOLLOWING YOUR DREAMS!
I think she looks really gorgeous and so humble to say how she start!! :D
I got to meet sarah lane and she is my favorite dancer ever!!!!💗💗💗💗
She really caught my eyes when i watching YAGP, her arms and upper body is amazing(for people watch a lot YAGP competition videos would understand what I mean, most young dancers focus too much on feet and got a little stiff on upper body)I fall in love with her without knowing she was the dance double.
I feel so angry about people bitching about her asking for a proper credit. Seriously what's wrong with that?? Isn't it obvious in the movie most of the dance is not done by Natalie? NOBODY can dance like that with one year of ballet training no matter what genius you are. Natalie did a great job on acting and she won Oscar for ACTING not DANCING, it IS necessary to let those ignorance people know that giving Natalie too much dancing credit is just not right.
Sarah didn't just speak for herself, she was asking people to pay all ballerinas a proper respect. For those who think ballet can be mastered within one year...I can only say that you have learnt nothing from the movie Black Swan, you know nothing about ballet and stop judging. I am a big Natalie fan since Leon the Professional but still, Natalie SHOULD thank her dance double in public.
No matter what , I enjoy Sarah's dance a lot. I hope everyone just forget about this movie mess and throw away all the prejudice and enjoy her dance purely.
Watching this while I'm in bed eating Oreos.
I'm totally eating my nieces leftover Valentine's Day candy in bed so I feel ya lol
Wow. She's really expressive and has a beautiful sense of choreographic style. Lovely.
This wasn’t a ballet, it was a movie with dancing. Natalie was the actress. She was a body double. How many body doubles do you see coming out and demanding that they figure out the math of the amount of times it was actually them in screen? She should be happy to have that on her resume as a complete unknown. Wonder how many other movie body double roles she will get now? She is trying to act like she is “standing up for the art.” When in reality she wants her 15 minutes of fame. She did her job and Natalie did hers.
The studios and Oscar campaigns were the ones who originally brought up the percentages to try and make Natalie's performance look more impressive, Sarah just pointed out that those percentages were lies. Calling a principal dancer at ABT a 'complete unknown' just proves her point that ballet dancers are under appreciated by the clueless public lol
Natalie deserved the Oscar for her portrayal of mental illness, not her dancing.
I would say that is why she got the Oscar
yeah she didnt want recognition, she wanted credit. she didnt want lies from Natalie portmans team, just the truth
She really should've at least had her name in the credits. Oh at least a thank you from Natalie Portman.
iamnotcynical well she did... watch the credits. She wanted fame and she was a double its pathetic. It was no different than hiring a stunt double. So delusional.
Natalie didn't have to thank her ,she was doing her job .The movie is awesome with or without Sarah,they could hire any other double.
@@courtneymiller1574 she wasn't credited as a double, like stunt doubles are, in the credits.
@@claudiamoriborjas7341 that's pretty insulting and belittling to be frank. By your logic, you shouldn't be recognised for doing your job, whatever that may be, because your employer could've hired someone else? so anyone in employment is worthless? I guess then Natalie shouldn't be credited for her role because she could've been replaced by any other actress. Very strange take.
Beautiful ballerina and the real star of Black Swan movie.
She deserves complete recognition for her work in Black Swan, I cannot imagine how strenuous and difficult that must have been. Natalie and the PR team definitely seemed to downplay how much Sarah did, for the sake of Natalie's shot at the Oscars it seems. Unfortunate, I believe everyone should know the truth. Natalie is an amazing actress, and deserves recognition for her acting in the movie-everyone was praising her dancing too much.
I love when they show clips of her in Giselle. I would love to see her live in the role!
Sarah is a perfectionist who has devoted her life to achieving the highest technical skill and artistic balance and grace. It takes years to get to where she is on the stage making it all seem so effortless. The dilemma of Hollywood is: Where does art begin and end? For an actress to play a ballerina with one year of training is impossible, physically speaking. It takes about 4-5 years just to get strong enough for point! Natalie did a great job "acting" like a dancer. Sarah IS a dancer.
She is SO beautiful.
Her arch is perfecccct
As a former ballet dancer, I support Sarah speaking the truth. It’s an insult to those of us who worked all our lives to make it as a ballet dancer for someone who is NOT a professional ballet dancer to be lorded as one after only a year and a half of training. It’s impossible
I'm here to enjoy the world of ballet and the beauty those in the ballet world create not to debate an Oscar.
Sarah LANE est talentueuse la danse classique demande énormément de travail et de sacrifice elle méritait de recevoir une récompense plus que méritée pour sa superbe prestation dans le film Black Swan.
Ce film était comme un mensonge !
I love you Sarah Lane. =)
@LimeGreenTriforce She doesn't need attention, she is to the ballet world what Natalie Portman is to the acting world; she was a star before her role in Black Swan.
@zaculyar2 She was hired to dance, not to show her body. Sure it was a movie, but there is a huge difference between dancing which is an art and requires a lot of talent and hard work and just showing one's body. They could've just written, but regardless of credits, the issue is that the producers went on and on about how much dancing Natalie Portman did which was misleading.
she is amazing!
there's one thing: this film was in the works for 10 years. It only makes sense that she would train for a year, and she had a coach and her husband the dancer in the NYC ballet, and darren who she had a relationship with prior to filming; and she is a harvard grad she wouldn't cheat. But look: the movies is a business. they told her to quiet cause they didn't want to degrade the business regardless of what she did or didn't do.
I am sooo with you there on that. It annoys me to no end how much over-lauded Portman is in general (has there ever been an article about her that didn't mention her Ivy League degree and just how smart/sophisticated/cultured she is?).
asentzio I mean I’m pretty sure if you went to an Ivy League school, you’d be bragging about it non stop.
@@hannahschrock7125 i did, in fact.
what a beautiful dancer ..Ballet is so difficult and so beautiful to watch
Some people forget NP won the Oscar for her INTERPRETATION of Nina, not because she could or couldn't dance. And all those comments about "a real ballerina wouldn't wear those shoes or leggins"... well, she's not the one choosing what her character wears. Think twice before saying so many stupid things.
They both did a great job, NP acting and SL dancing. THAT'S ALL.
She's beautiful
@repn87 But she wasn't hired as a ballerina, she was hired as a body double. It was a movie, not a ballet.
@dancersingerlover Just curious, who do ballerinas from America act vs. those from Europe?
ballet - oh, it's so beautiful. i'm totally, crazy jealous of dancers like sarah lane, i would wished so much that i could be a ballerina.
Contratulation to Sarah on her promotion to principal!
Love to see Natalie Portman do any of that !!
Whats the song that plays for a few seconds at the intro when it says meet the artist?
She's beautiful they should have cast her in the role ......
However, being so picky and so called "attacking" Natalie, isn't that degrading ballet too? It gives ballet dancers a bad image as well of everyone thinks ballerinas are as picky as her. I do ballet too and it's true that ballet is not easy and not many people credit ballet dancers. I respect Sarah as a ballet dancer but lost that respect when her attitude was as such. Good for you Sarah.
The first 5 minutes are the hardest, after is just enjoyment
What is life like after Black Swan? "I'm still a snobby, entitled, bratty and arrogant bitch! Of course, like, duh!" ***flips hair back***
Also, I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to undermine the differences in difficulty of sitting around for hours and acting and sitting around for hours and dancing. I've experienced that with acting but never with dancing and I can't even imagine how grueling it must be. Its not that I'm saying that she dramatizing the challenges of film dancing but the fact that she had to overcome all those challenges, I was surprised by her comment.
Her Act II GIselle is just lovely!!!!!!! I hope ABT lets her dance that role soon.
Jessica Zeller, author of Shapes of American Ballet: Teachers and Training Before Balanchine said a very interesting thing about this idiotic movie: "Black Swan is similarly a relic of a time when ballerinas were voiceless-when, like the swans of Swan Lake, ballet was trapped under the spell of patriarchal leadership. “Women have been raised from such a young age to be a certain degree of deferent in ballet,” she says. “In their training, they don't have a voice; they don't speak; they don't have agency or license.”
Many dancers reclaimed that voice when, only a month after Hollywood’s Harvey Weinstein scandal in 2017, NYCB’s Artistic Director, Peter Martins, was accused of sexual harassment and physical and verbal abuse-plunging the ballet community into a #MeToo revolution of its own."
You can say that Sarah Lane was a bit of a forerunner to Metoo...the first one who spoke up. Not against direct harassment but against indirect neglect and ignorance.
The point is that Sarah Lane got NO credit! zero! She embodies the opposite paradigm from the deceptive message of the movie (the ballerina had to become self-destructive and depraved to portray the vigorous, powerful and beautiful black swan. Sarah Lane embodies beauty, sexuality and grace without drugs, alcohol or marked sexual depravity. HUGE dif between a true athlete and Natalie Portman which detracts from the movie -better to make the real ballerina into an actress than try to push lie.
We loved seeing the archival clips of Sarah here, but as professional dance videographers it's hard to understand why the older clips were allowed to be presented here in what is obviously an incorrect aspect ratio? They make the lithe and exquisite Sarah look like a fireplug! Shame on Dance Channel TV!
thanks for your comment
I don't really understand why there was such a huge fuss about Black Swan. They credited her as Natalie's "stunt double", which is EXACTLY what she was. Natalie had every right to let others know how hard she worked for that movie. She may not have done the harder dances, but the amount of work that goes into just getting a ballerina's posture, grace, footwork, etc. is still extreme. Plus, Natalie was working on another job WHILE going to ballet practice and actors usually work 12-13 hour days.
gorgeous dancer.
@bernessacookie
Welcome to the real world. For most of the audience of the movie ballet is something that they've likely only seen a tiny bit of and then paid it little to no attention.
When people first become aware of an artform they minimize it till they know better. How many ballet dancers think other forms of dance are easy UNTIL they try to do them WELL? How many artists have had to sit through the "I drew/painted/did a sculpture once so I can do what you do easily. Or actors be told that what they do is just "playing around".
Everyone gets that treatment until people care enough to find out about what it really takes to do their artform. Frankly a casual peek at Abby Lee Miller and the realization that ballet teachers can be even more exacting should give them a little understanding about what you have to go through at a really young age.
Why is she called a Soloist if she is performing Principal roles?
Some countries call the rank solist and some countries call the same rank principal. Same thing. Some countries have principals and under them soloists. In the Netherlands the top are soloists and under them are 2nd soloists.
@Blastaar7 not all ballet dancers are snobby. it has to do with where they came from and what style they dance (example European vs. American)
What is the first variation?
in some ways your right, It's true that Sarah Lane actually got more credit then most doubles do, but when Aronofosky told her to hide that she did the REAL ballet dancing in the film, because it was bad for Natalie's image, he was actually creating an unnecessary problem for himself, because that only made her look worse, once it got out, bottom line is though, that it's not Natalie's, OR Sarah's fault, That's just my opinion
I think that you misunderstood her, because when she said that, she meant that for her it's different to solely act versus having to act PLUS making sure her body is ready to do the actual dancing for the movie, so I don't feel like she was disrespecting the film industry or anything -- she was just referring to her personal experience.
LOVE Sarah Lane!!
Praising Natalie for how hard she worked does not cheapen Sarah's work in any way. However, Sarah's job in this movie was to dance and look like Natalie, THAT's what she was hired for, so naturally that's what she was credited for. There have been plenty of other films about dance where dancers are listed as "stunt doubles" and none of them raised a stink about it. Natalie was amazing in that movie - it's sad that some people are trying to tear her down.
04:37 from which performance is this?
@ 4:55 what's that dance called ???!!!
Giselle
I could barely concentrate on this interview because of all the "um"-ing. GOODNESS.
@MyGoddes She didn't need to do auditions. She is a soloist at the ABT which is the top ballet company in the US and they wanted her. They needed to have someone at a her level of a similar height with Natalie. There aren't that many dancers like this around. Plus, Natalie's baby's daddy knew her from ABT work. As to her being stiff and Natalie graceful - you have no clue. Close-ups of Natalie's arm movements were pretty awkward, and even an average ballet fan like me can tell when they switch.
What's the difference between a soloist & a principal dancer? Or is it the same thing?
U go Sarah Lane!
@dancersingerlover which tend to be more snobby? The americans or europeans?
the strangers in the night dance was really cool
Natalie did not get to "the same level." She could never dance an entire ballet because, those shots at the beginning and end where she is en pointe, flapping her wings? That is the ONLY move she can do on her toes. She did all the rest of her dances, but she did them in flat shoes. Any other time you see the dancer's entire body and she is en pointe, it's somebody else. There's a scene in the studio where the camera is focused on Vincent Cassel as the character in question dances by.
She has such beautiful presentation of her feet.
She was probably expecting it to make her famous (to everyone, not just ballet world).
I noticed in her "Giselle" that the upper body is not quite as fluid yet as someone who, perhaps, has had more opportunitie to do the role. She says herself that the goal is to become un-selfconscious and "mature" in dancing; she is beautiful and I, too hope she is given many more opportunities to grow in some of the roles she desires. It's amazing how much dedicationi and work they have to put in daily in order to have a few chances to shine.
Natalie cannot dance ballet. It takes years and years of training to even make simple steps at a professional level. It's just impossible, it's like starting to learn piano at 30 and thinking that you can sound like a concert pianist. Even at a simple piece anybody would tell the difference. This is the same. Ballet is very hard. Look at some of children videos here.
She made the decision to defend her art, the people involved in Black swan lied about ballet itself, if your going to make a movie about a subject like ballet, and not have real ballet dancers in the movie, the least they can do is tell the truth about it, it's just that simple.
@swinche95 No she doesn't. She is very graceful and very good. The scenes shown are from the first act of Giselle where she is playing a shy innocent girl.
@dancersingerlover So I guess a summary of the difference would not be their work ethic but just how they work and get to point of being on stage.
Brody did play the piano in the pianist, at least for nocturne in c. And Natalie Portman won the oscar for masterful acting. Being a dancer myself, it wasn't her "dancing" I was impressed with, but the way she played the role. Why do people feel passionately about this. The reason Sarah Lane wasn't credited at first is because she is not as famous as Natalie Portman--few dancers are famous. It's not some scheme or some conspiracy. Great films are composite works of art that require many talents.
I know, right? All the film people had to say was, "Sarah Lane did ABC" and "Natalie did XYZ". Just acknowledged her.
The amount of umms is absolutely overwhelming
o l i v i a l l i s o n as well as all the "you know" urghhh
I know, someone should have told her or at least cut them out for her.
Sarah was direct, poised and articulate. Utterly ridiculous to focus on such minutiae when one has the opportunity to hear such a wonderful artist speak. Idiots.
It didn't bother me as much as it bothered so many of you. Her job doesn't include televised interviews and she's not used to it. It would be interesting to see how most of those complaining would express themselves if invited to an interview that would be available worldwide on UA-cam and other channels.
Until the dancer passes the actor she is out of focus and on her toes. Then she passes the actor and the actor slides out of focus and the dancer slides into focus. You can see it is Natalie. And the camera cuts off her feet. Go and look at that scene again. Notice the posture of the dancer before the change in focus and after. Her spine is so perfect, it's like you rolled a big human-sized ball into place and her whole body is taut and perfectly curved backward around it.
You can notice that she enjoys talking about her carrier and her dancing rather than the movie. Its a shame that the spotlight has been put on her because of this black swan controversy when there is more to her than that.
It means
I Totally Agree
perfect face for being a double for Portman. From a distance I can not make the difference between them. Lovely dancer too.
such bullshit. she knew what she signed up for. people use body doubles all the time. natalie trained 5 hrs a day 6 days a week for nearly two years. of course she isnt going to have the skill level of a professional ballerina. remember flashdance lol?
+Isa Shisha (aka Isa's Pieces) I dont think so.... this is different. It's is not like everyone could do it in a year, why Natalie Portman? I think is better to accept and just enjoy the movie.
TOTALLY AGREE
She signed up to do the ballet dancing for the movie, she did not sign up for Natalie and the producers to appropriate her lifelong ballet skills so that it would appear that Natalie herself did all the dancing in order to win the Oscar, or the 'False Idol' Natalie has gone on to call it since. Yeah, right. False idol my ass, Natalie. It takes nearly a lifetime to become as good as Sarah Lane is right now, so for Natalie and her producers to try to make it seem that Natalie did most of that dancing with only a year and a half of training... do you not see how wrong this is??? If you don't, you suck. Plain and simple.
shadelings no, its not wrong, this "Sarah' is just a tool, she needs to learn how to play her role and keep quiet. The women in color purple comes to mind. She did not sing the last song, a spanish woman did. But did she go around declaring that it was her.. no, but people found out eventually and she gets the glory. There is no glory in what this "sarah' did to the legacy of the black swan movie. she really shouldve just shut up.
SHARE H!S V!S!0N Yeah, the only glory being actually making Natalie look like she became a professional ballerina in under two years. Without Sara, no way would Natalie had been able to pull that off. It's taken Sara all of her life to be able to become a professional ballerina, so it's incredibly insulting for Natalie and her producers to lie and make it sound like Natalie did most of the dancing, when she didn't.
"...she needs to learn how to play her role and keep quiet...." That quote alone tells me you got issues, dude. smh.
For all u did is just to get the name ”The Double in Black Swan"
Ballet dancers are world class dancers and it takes decades to become one if even you do after all that time is even rarer. SARAH LANE is the REAL dancer who did ALL the dancing in Black Swan. Natalie’s had shots and arms waving in upper body and head shots is not dancing. The inimitable SARAH LANE with American Ballet theatre is the real dancer. Aronovsky the director and the entire movie makers SILENCED SARAH LANE from speaking up and doing any interviews as they told her that Natalie was going to get the oscar and they couldn’t have anyone speaking about the fact that she did not doing any of the dancing that it is ALL SARHA LANE’S Body CGI onto Portman’s head. And after all these years, Portman is still talking about how she studied to become a ballet dancer and she didn’t think she could do it but she went into her fear and did it. She did not. She did not become a ballet dancer ever. 1 year or 1 and half years does not a ballerina make. Also, it requires so much for than just years of rigorous Olympic style commitment. Your body type yiur feet the proportions of your limps everything yiur heart yiur soul yiur mind and yiur spirit all make you into a phenomenal ballerina along with 20+ years of dedication of some times more than 8 hours a day once your a teenager. I know because I did that. I know what it takes and I witnessed some of the renowned ballerinas by my side who went on to be the primary ballerinas in the biggest companies in the world.
The LIES Portman and the director ET al tell about Portman training as a ballerina to do this role amd all this dancing is a crazy insult to the profound rigorous art form that professional ballet is. And an insult to the beautiful SARAH LANE whose 22 years she dedicated and sacrificed in order to become the beauty that yiu all see here in this BLACK SWAN film amd whom all those Oscar’s votes believed the CGI’d body of SARAH LANE’s was Portman’s. Not movie magic in this case, movie deception and fraud. Imagine dedicating your life and lending yiur gift to a project and then being told afterwards that you have to kee yiur mouth shut about it because they want someone else to get a HUGE award for what you contributed to the project but they don’t want you to have any credit for yiur part in making it so beautiful and powerful and they want all the credit to go to someone else. It’s just eveil. And people are so ignorant to actually believe movie lies.
Some of you people are taking this Natalie vs. Sarah arguments way too seriously. I mean, come on, it has been a year and a half since the movie came out. Give it a rest. Unless you were on the set and heard everything and heard everything everyone said through the whole drama, you don't know what really happened. Go analyze and debate something useful.
She should have never agreed to be the double if she wasn’t ok with it and the contract. Calling ALL stunt doubles lol
well yes but Portman did in fact train for a year for the role, and now it's obvious that Lane does deserve credit, which she got. I just think that it's ridiculous that a double wants more credit than she really deserved and came out about it the way she did. I'm not saying you're wrong. It's just that she did in fact train for a year and she did a fantastic job. in fact Sarah lane said she deserved the oscar. I just hate how Lane handled herself and bitched about the movie the way she did.
don't get me wrong, she's a GREAT dancer, but this was not her movie, and she did not need the credit. she got the paycheck she agreed to, and that was her contribution. stunt doubles never get credit for all they do and all the injuries they acquire, and while I understand that dance is a very sacred art, she was essentially a stunt double in this film. that's how the industry works, she was just seeking attention and causing unnecessary controversy
the same thing was done with "chasing mavericks" and i haven't seen the surfer double going out and claiming that it was all his. I think Sarah is being way to dramatic and just wants fame.
The fact people actually believe Natalie was made into a principal ballerina in 1 1/2 years shows just how most people do not understand that this art form is NOT easy and if someone could be made into a prima ballerina in that amount of time, everyone would be a prima ballerina
Yes, but this movie wasn't actually about ballet...
Can ballerinas quit it with the, “nobody actually appreciates it for how difficult it is, and oh they think it’s easy cause we make it look easy” that’s simply not true. It’s like she’s lost all faith in humanity or something. We don’t feel sorry for you hun. You look amazing and you dance very beautifully. You make it look effortless and because I’m not dumb, I recognize that making something look easy is called being a professional. And regardless of whether or not we’ve ever done ballet, we have sense enough to know that it is not easy. Thanks boo
She's so lucky to have danced with Roberto Bolle.
uh, what does that mean? :/