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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2013
- Every week outside the G.P.O in Dublin various groups and campaigns hand out leaflets to people passing by . For some unknown reason this week 21/09/13 the city's litter warden didn't like this but when challenged didn't have a lot to say both himself and the Garda gave up and walked away .
wonder if the litter crusader would step in if he seen 2 blokes dumping rubbish out of a transit van down a country lane..
Fair play to him all together . . .
His knowledge and bravery shattered their bully tac-tic's and absolute IGNORANCE.
So Learn form this people. I know I have.
Well done that man for standing up for himself.
Litter warden should be prosecuted for harrassment.
"What do you do for a living?"
"I'm a litter warden"
"You must be a bell-end then"
"That is correct. Now GIVE ME YOUR FECKIN DETAILS!!"
Giving out a leaflet is not littering. The person who gets a leaflet and then throws it to the ground is a litterer. So charge that person for littering.
Litter warden? good grief what next? send in the milk monitor?
They don't seem to be in a hurry to enforce this on the crook gangster politicians.
well done to this gentleman.the garda hadnt a clue what was going on
This litter warden hasn't got a clue. Handing out leaflets is not an offence. Throwing the leaflets on the ground would be an offence but as it's just an "ACT" they have no powers to prosecute you unless you give your consent. GAME OVER.
Why in hell would a litter warden be under the impression that he is a law enforcement officer?
because he is.. he enforces laws with respect to pollution and litter
No, he isn't, and he has no power to enforce anything.
there is a law against pollution, and there is a penalty to those who break that law, the warden issues the ticket. ergo he enforces the law.. i.e he is involved in law enforcement... super simple stuff
Issuing a ticket is enforcing a bye-law. It has nothing to do with statute law. You appear a mite confused.
so if the garda was issuing the ticket would it also not be enforcing the law? doesnt really matter what type of law it is, still enforcement.
I would have thought that if a person who received one of the leaflets from the above man then threw it on the ground, THEY would /should be charged under whatever litter laws we have.
I fail to see how the person handing out the leaflets is breaking any laws.
If he was, then is stands to reason that all the fast food joints on O Connell St should be charged on a daily basis for THEIR litter ,which is thrown on the ground by customers
The woman was intimidating him....no doubt about it.
That litter warden is just talkin trash 😁
Ha ha, what a knob jockey from DCC..........
Fair play to that man...
Apparently, in this country where nothing makes sense, Dublin City Council think that if you hand out a leaflet and then the person who took it drops it, that you - the leaflet hander-outer - is somehow responsible for the litter. That's like going to the ammo store and arresting the guy who sold the bullet to the man who murdered another man by shooting him. Insane! DCC are also under the false impression that the Act they are referring to (about litter) can not only be construed to mean that a person cannot hand out leaflets, but that it supersedes the European Convention of Human Rights Article 10. DCC should stand for Dumb Clown Circus 8-)
Road sweeper thinking he knows the law lol
jesus have these cops got nothing better to do ? :( lol litter warden
this is what this country has come to. Litter 'ENFORCEMENT' officers dishing out tickets to old people, and getting a percentage of the money, split with the council. SOme of the people are making £900 per month in bonuses, threatening people with a potential criminal record.
Ah the good old Litter pollution act 1997 :) I remember getting a fine in my door from a Litter warden once because they claimed that I had rubbish in my shed and bins hadn't been emptied in a while and also my Garden was over grown. it actually said that on the fine. I simply wrote back and said that the length of someone grass is not covered under the litter pollution act and also that in order to see what was in my shed or in my bin (the lid of which was fully closed in my drive way), the litter warden would have to come on to my property, which is a private fully owned house and he never sought my permission to do this. they had been threatening to take me to court. When they got my letter i never heard anything again. It helps to be familiar with the law.
Litter wardens should carry rulers to measure the grass. The pricks
Wow dat was amazing dat corpo man n garda tryed to tag team an arrest but we're blown away deadly
Specify the law, as it is written.
Good man
Good job.
A FUCKING DOPEY LITTER WARDEN???? HOLY FUKCKING SHIT!
Brilliant!
Congratulation on doing a great job.
The only law she can resite is under section 00 of the after hours act she can drink all night and party..... little party popper. See her looking at the other waster litter warden with no clue on her face what she was doing. People she is one of thousands that have no clue but in forces the kaw that they dont know, fight back for fuck sake fight back. They have to much power...
I have been involved in a lot of campaigns and I always advise supporters that they can ultimately be held responsible for litter law infringements if their flyers are carelessly thrown about, even if they are not directly responsible. For example people still don't realize you cannot thrust a leaflet onto some one, nor can you put it under the wind wipers on a car. Context is everything and I don't know the full context of this video, what happened before it, etc I am naturally cautious in jumping to a conspiracy conclusion that they are all against us, i.e us who are fed up of a failed consensus of socialism for the rich.
i'm sorry but it is the police officer's job to enforce the law and collect evidence for the crown prosecution service, "this is the law, are you contravening it?" "yes, but..." "well you need to stop or I'll arrest you" "but the ECHR" "Speak to them about it"... It is the court to decide whether it is right or wrong!
this bin man has no clue
Just one leaflet too many........litter man snapped.
He should've got his nose snapped
lovever happens to me i will say the same and fair play to you both if it you ! very intersting i though we were breaking the law by not giving your details,
thanks
What's that Ban Guard doing outside the station without her 6'2 mayo shit kicker for backup?
Sorry Kathleen but they don't "know their shit". EU law does not supercede local law and IF that chap or any of the other protestors were dropping leaflets then they were breaking the law and name and address can be demanded by the Garda and arrest without warrant can be made if they fail to supply name and address. This is all contingent on an offence having been committed i.e. they must have been dropping leaflets. Perhaps they were not, perhaps that's why the Garda did not pursue the matter.
So they say because other people litter what you're handing out, that you're responsible? Did I get that right?
Balm stick's the two of them
Know your SHIT....AND WELL DONE
quick one - could be not have just refused to consent in reference to the quoted act seen as an act requires consent and is now law
Good cop, bad cop. I'm surprised they didn't use the old favourite" your blocking a public right of way".
I think this is a case of over-activism. The Garda had a right to ask for details under this act.
LITTER POLLUTION ACT, 1997
irishstatutebook (dot) ie/1997/en/act/pub/0012/print.html#sec6
and that guy with the scarf over his mouth is a disgrace.
Oh my God! That is literally the worst thing I've ever seen. That poor man! Not even in the Soviet Union did people suffer like that! Those Gardaí are worse than the Gestapo and worse than the KGB. Look at how they beat the guy into submission and arrested him and shot the arsehole with the scarf covering his face. Oh wait, nothing actually happened.
Offences involving, and powers of, litter wardens,
23.-(1) A person who obstructs or impedes a litter warden or a member of the Garda Síochána who is exercising functions under this Act shall be guilty of an offence.
(2) A litter warden or a member of the Garda Síochána who-
(a) has reasonable grounds for believing that a person is committing or has committed an offence under this Act, may request the person to give his or her name and address, and may request that the information given...
Can't hear it
why cant i reply to individual comments??
i would recommend that all activists carry article 40.1.1 of the 1937 constitution, it clearly states that we have rights that are superior to any man made statute. Remember statutes only apply with your consent, if they arrest you and u dont give them a name they cant charge u because they have to charge the name
That litter warden had a very weird voice.seems like he had a spud stuck in in neck.i saw a female Garda once with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp going up and down a street determined to nail a member of the public for any little thing.frightening situation!
I am going to court shortly anybody any numbers for him
Wana b Garda
Corrupt Solicitors by Gerry Molloy
That guy hiding behind his scarf is a coward and he was interfering with the garda there. She could have arrested him if she wanted.
Exactly, a waste of life in a hoodie
***** Exactly, they are racists and racism is a hate crime!
You would think Ireland would have better things to worry about.
Like every other hard done by story on you tube , we are not in a position to see what happened prior to this incident or what followed on afterwards. Maybe rasher would like to show us everything or maybe he has an agenda ?
Declan I have no agenda . That is all the footage . I have no idea what happened prior to it and have no footage of what happened after as nothing did happen after it , both the litter warren and Garda walked away .
Rasher Ó Reilly Ah now rasher, i spotted 2 other cameras in the footage, theres two sides to every story and there is no doubt about the agenda behind this. Any words of wisdom on camera from face scarf man or the other genius who had to be told by the Garda to take a step back ? As you pointed out at the start, this activity happens all the time. Have you asked yourself why the warden decided to act? We will agree to disagree.
Rasher Ó Reilly love it rasher
Declan Hegarty You did indeed spot two other cameras in the footage but their not my cameras . You would have to ask them to put their footage up ( maybe they have already ) I haven't asked myself why the warden decided to act at this stage maybe he's in favour of fracking . I agree we will agree to disagree
That litter wardens just talkin trash
Is Ireland a democracy?
Yes
Its a banana republic !
anita dillon
Ireland is NOT a banana republic, typical overblown tabloid rubbish
More Authoritarian.
platinumdynamite Hey if the Boomtown Rats called it a Banana Republic then ill believe it lol
That was probably the biggest fail on the internet.
bigtom
She didnt have a clue what the law was but in fairness to her so handled the situation very well....
when they get to Templemore they get a frontal labotomy, humanity must be left at the doo and they become an "ORGAN" of the state
If the Garda knew the law they'er supposed to be upholding then they wouldn't embarrass themselves by getting schooled on the law by law abiding citizens that seem to know the law better than them on the streets! And when they do get embarrassed by some one that knows the law better than they do what do they do?...they lash out with brutality and strong arm tactics! Thats their answer to not being educated on the law they are paid to uphold by taxpayers!
but he didn't know the law John, he was talking shit. He was rambling along about Human Rights and EU law when local law supersedes EU law. All that was said was that he could not allow the paper to become litter. That's all that was said don't break the Litter Pollution Act of 1997. Then he launches into this big "Human Rights" issue. The Garda was being very tolerant and appeared to know the law and was doing her best to de-escalate a situation between a whiny cry-baby and an ignorant lunatic of a litter warden.
Keiser Soze"....local law supersedes EU law." - hilarious.....!
The guy was 100% correct - unless he has broken a Law then they should leave him alone - the Garda was attempting to coerce him into giving up his details - and when he asked her under what Law she said - ".....eh..the one he said....!" - yeah she knows the Law for sure - ILMFAO...!
MrJoecool9999 How do you know what the Leafleting protester said or did previously?
Neither of us know exactly if he was, for example, breaking the law by dropping leaflets on the street or not. It was off camera.
So perhaps both Warden and Garda may have been referring to the Litter Pollution Act of 1997 which has a power to demand both name and address of someone under Section 23
(2) A litter warden or a member of the Garda Síochána who-
(a) has reasonable grounds for believing that a person is committing or has committed an offence under this Act, may request the person to give his or her name and address, and may request that the information given be verified,
and...
European law does not supersede local law. It doesn't, not in the above context. It might be "hilarious" to you but you are just laughing at your own ignorance.
Now don't waste anymore of my time.
Keiser Soze Get your facts straight - if either the Garda or the litter warden saw the guy dropping litter then why wouldn't they say that....? - No, they didn't say that because they obviously hadn't seen that - in your efforts to support your ridiculous claims - you have to ignore the Glaringly obvious - why would someone handing out leaflets go to all that trouble - then throw them on the ground - and if the Garda was in the right and had the law behind her - is it likely that she would walk away.....? No of course she wouldn't....!
Again the guy was 100% correct and that was why he was right and able to stand his ground - and that is why the Garda and the litter warden walked away.....!
Keiser Soze One more thing - please don't be giving legal advice to people - because clearly you have no clue what you are talking about and you could possibly get someone into trouble.....!
HA looks like the pigs lost that one.
Also according to this law
Litter Act 1997
in the section "Offences involving, and powers of, litter wardens, etc."
The Garda had a right to demand name and address and could have arrested without warrant both the man with the glasses and the guy with the scarf for interfering. You guys got off light and are too foolish to realise it. I know it is only a "Litter Act" but it is still the law and perhaps they were breaking it. They are exempt from this law if they post the flyers.
Actually he doesn't "know his rights"
Irish legislation states
Litter Pollution Act, 1997
PART II
Litter Pollution Generally
Prohibitions related to littering.
3.-(1) No person shall deposit any substance or object so as to create litter in a public place or in any place that is visible to any extent from a public place.
If he was handing out leaflets and they were being dropped then he is responsible for creating litter
So if he was dropping leaflets the Warden and Garda were right
Nice to know you got your 'freedom' to then be assaulted by police. The irony.
People should obey authority figures. I suspect a lot of these argumentative types are spouting their perceived interpretation of the law or the constitution or as a last resort they adopt some freeman notion of being above the law. Gardai should feel free to use brute force and the power of arrest on anyone who disobeys them and the courts should praise them in every case. Compliance with Garda instructions should always be a non debatable duty. They should have the right to appeal a Garda decision in writing after complying with the Garda order but in almost every case the Courts should uphold the Garda decision and no sanction such ever be made against a member of the Gardai for giving an order even if they make a mistake. The Gardai must be respected and they need teeth to be able to enforce the most authoritarian interpretation of the law. Overcrowded prisons should no longer be seen as a problem but as a solution because fifty to a cell would be a good deterrent to those who disobey Gardai and criminals generally. The next recession will bring anarchy and Gardai need to be able to do their jobs without fear of reprimand. It is unreasonable to expect Gardai or even lawyers to know every law and so debating with such people is not an option. If Gardai had the power to thump their skulls with a truncheon it could save an awful lot of time, agro and things would get done.
Handing out flyers does not cause littering. What the people who receive flyers do with them, is their business and if they litter, it has nothing to do with those distributing the literature.