This is why I love watching you amongst so many others. You’re not a know-it-all and not trying to be. You’re just sharing what you know and trying to be helpful. We love a sense of humor and down-to-earth attitude!
Quick Tip: If you choose to use untreated 4 x 4 posts then you should not drop them straight into the soil. The moisture + oxygen in the top few inches of soil will promote fungal breakdown of the wood and rot a ring around it until it collapses in a few years. You can buy some 4 x 4 vinyl or PVC sleeves to insert the bottom portion of the post into, which have weep holes to drain any collected water, but insulates the wood from the damp soil. This sleeve should rise a couple of inches above your soil line. Overall the post + sleeve should sit on top of a few inches of crushed gravel so that the post never sits in a pool of water after heavy rain. This will preserve your posts for the long haul.
Love this guy! The other half is from Michigan and I tell him all the time we are visiting their store the next time we go up to visit your family up in the thumb!
I did mine with leftover cattle fencing. Works great. Had originally tried to find something that would shade our deck. We did a curtain and rod, however it became a sail. Then planted grapes last year. That was the coolest our deck has ever been and made it so much more vibrant.
The bloopers were great! It was great meeting you this past Friday. Thankful my sister was not afraid to ask for photo (you & I) and signed pack. Me…. I never want to bother busy people. It was great she moved to MI. That way I can stop into your stop and tell her I came to visit her all the way from IA😂😂😂 I always share your videos or send people to your channel.
I just finished building my grape trellis yesterday, and it’s almost similar to this one, but I used concrete and spaced the posts 8 feet apart. I’m using the Mid-wire Vertical Shoot Positioning training system. However, my soil was heavy clay, which made digging almost impossible. I couldn’t believe how easy your post hole digger went through your soil compared to mine. It looks like you didn’t even break a sweat! Dealing with that clay was a real challenge; I might need to invest in a post hole auger for my next project.
LOVE the human bloopers!! I just hard pruned 30-40 yr old wild muscadine vines (in Jan). No lesss than 40 grapevines. They're currently laid out on the ground - we had pulled them out of 30ft tree tops! Wild and unruly! Now, theyre bushing out with tiny baby grape clusters ☆ This trellising will be our end goal. Using T-posts and rolled hogwire for this year as we had extras and no $ for lumber/ hardware.
I love what Luke does, and I live in southern MI so it helps more than other UA-cam gardeners. I would love to see Luke do a real good episode on biologic's of soil. I am also a follower of John's methods of adding rock dust and such. I would love for you to do a full long length episode on what you understand about building good growing soil. Also how to maintain that fungal and soil symbiosis. To note at work our garden is watered with tap water. At my home, all of my house plants are watered with collected rain water. It is "said" that using tap water has the chlorines and other chemicals that can destroy the symbiotic action of good active soil. I've followed a number of rules and last year our garden had a "tomato Forest". Am I harming the microbiology really bad (the micros you try to build using worm castings and mycro's) by using our companies tap water? Also, I wonder what are industrial or commercially allowed rain water gathering systems allowed? I supposed I will have to contact our local authority??? To Note, I also bought into the Rock dust (Azomite) and feel that the argument on replenishing minerals in your raised growing soil is essential as your raised garden depletes those every harvest and what other manner can replace those essential items? I'd really like to see Luke do a really good series of videos on soil biology is what I am saying I guess. John from Growing your Greens is only specific to warmer zones but I do like what he believes in. How do those priciples work in our zone here in MI?
When I was still on the farm, we used to run great fencing up using post to, but we planted anchor 5 feet before the first post, and 5 feet after the last post, and the cables came from that anchor Inn through all the holes to the other end and back to the post that was the anchor at the other end in the ground. We do all lines that way to the top. And tighten the lines. We had those two and hooks with the eye in the middle, let you could screw, and it would tighten up the length of the field.
Luke, on a short run like you made this grape trellis, I used 1/2 EMT secured to 8-ft T-Posts because the posts will never rot or lean together from the weight of the vines loaded with fruit. Everyone who has used a clothesline knows the wire gets loose and the posts lean from normal use and wet soil.
@@rebeccarupprecht9903 I used two-hole strap clamps and drilled #8 screws into the EMT, requires predrilling a tiny pilot hole. Its a little time consuming but worth it in the end.
This video is right on time! I had posts installed (for sail shades which have yet to be hung) and am trying to grow passion fruit between them. Here comes a diy trellis.
🤣 Thanks so much for the giggle from the bloopers, I needed it! Also, thanks a ton for this idea! I have my grapes here that I just got from MIGardener and was looking for ideas!❤
May I make a comment on something you should consider, please? Grapes grow like crazy. They will easily get to be about 100 feet long every. year (at least where I live). Even if you cut them back 80 % every year, they will continue to grow and grow. Be prepared to wrap your grapes around that structure 10,000 times. There's a reason why I wrap my loofah's around half of my house and my grapes around the other half.
I put posts in giving 10 ft on each side of the plant. Also, my top wire is about shoulder high, so I don't need a ladder to reach and gather, or prune. I use a heavy Guage wire...costs more, but won't be replacing it because of stretching or breaking.
In addition to using a single strand of wire (vice three), I would have also incorporated two stout eyehooks and two turnbuckles (I.e., One each at the beginning and the end). This would make it much easier for you to tension the line throughout its lifespan.
This was helpful! 😁 I did something similar but my posts are too far apart and it slags in the middle, I’ve also tried different kinds of wire that haven’t worked well. Thank you!!
I consider myself a very frugal farmer and don't want to wait for those little stoppers for the end of the cable on Amazon I just tension the wire like I would stringing a fence.
Hello there, I was just wondering what the advantage of having a high tunnel is. Is it to extend the growing season? Or to keep out the chemicals raining down from the sky? I don’t have anything like that. Was wondering if I need to have one?
Hi Luke, I’m in zone 5b and am not sure which grapes I would like to try that will grow here in very clay soil. I have tried some vines a few years ago I purchased but it was a waste of time and money. Do you have any suggestions AND do you sell them? I’ve also tried blackberries and blueberries supposedly for this area last year. I got one blackberry from a very small twig. Basically they are still twigs, I see no growth on them at all. Since I’m new to growing fruits, I’m not sure if that’s normal at all. 😂😂thank you so much for your suggestions! Oh, I also tried Chicago hardy figs. Maybe I’m just purchasing them when they aren’t mature enough? Smh 🤦♀️ I just don’t know, but I do ok with other veggies like tomato’s and peppers!
I live in Iowa, zone 5a, also very clay soil. I have used the deep mulch method to greatly improve my soil. Plus, it retains water and I enjoy much less weeding. It takes a few years, but my 5 year old bed now has beautiful, loamy soil. This was just a suggestion to improve your garden for the future. Good luck with your berries and God bless!😊
And grapes don't just go everywhere, they take Trees down and do damage. My Dad's grapes weren't touched in 25 years or so. They took down a pear tree and a Gravenstine Apple Tree. I probably will never plant grapes ever again because of the damaged I have seen from them. But yes, staying up on the pruning is the only way to control that.
I fence the way the old timers did it. I use 6 foot 4x4 treated posts buried 2 feet deep. Then, run 8 guage doubled wire, attached to each post. Using a stick between the two wires, I turn the stick and it twists the two wires together creating a very sturdy wire. The stick can be removed and stored for future tightening. The vines are pruned/managed and never allowed to grow willy nilly. The vines are topped up with compost each fall, never get diseases or pests.
As much work as it is digging holes in Michigan, it's darn near impossible in TN! My yard has heavily compacted clay 😕 Instead of post holes for us, we drive in metal t posts. In younger days we did this manually, but nowadays we rent a gas driver. Still not easy as the driver weighs approx 45 pounds and lifting it overhead is rough (we put it on the post while it's on the ground, make sure the bottom of the post is where we want it and then lever the whole thing up) it's easier than digging holes in what's essentially concrete!
I saw a post hole digger that is a giant drill bit looking thing that you twist yourself instead of using that goofy clam pinching design... It looks way easier
How do you keep the birds from eating the grapes? Once bought a house in Maryland with grape vines over a trellis in the backyard. One day I noticed the grapes that were not even close to being ripe were 90% gone. I saw a bird hanging upside down eating the remaining grapes. They were all gone within a few hours.
I've seen some vineyards which place periodic long strands of silver tinsel which waves around in the wind. The sparkling/glaring reflection of sunlight with movement seems to scare the birds off. In a home garden you can use the shiny pinwheels to do the same thing. Or perhaps the fake owl deterrent perched somewhere nearby.
I read that Concord grapes were the only grapes that birds didn't eat so that's what I planted about 20 years ago and it must be true because no birds have ever touched my grapes and I have lots of birds. They just ignore the grapes. My Concord grapes have seeds so although not great for fresh eating, they make great juice and jelly.
2nd year my garden is going well. Then bam, my landlord/ farmer sprays his field. The run of leave brown spots on my pea plants leaves and stems curling backwards, brown spots on radishes, and on my corn. I lost a leaf on watermelon. And in tomatoes that I have ot planted yet, sitting on my front porch, leave are curling backwards.😢 last year when my tomatoes an green bean was thriving they got the spary runoff and by time my tomatoe started to recover they got attacked by hornworms😢. Any suggestions on how to reduce or reverse affects of commercial farm herbicides?
It depends on the variety of grape vine you have. There are self-pollinating types where one plant will suffice, and there are cross-pollinating varieties which do require another plant for the pollination to occur.
If anyone does the untreated wood I recommend using cement in the holes so it doesn’t rot the wood as quickly. Over time this will rot in the earth though.
Yes! We live in a very rainy climate and even in concrete, posts rot very quickly. We’ve found using the elevated post bases in concrete, that hold the post above the ground a bit, works best in very wet areas.
I only have one question, why didn’t you set your posts in concrete? If you’re prone to having high winds, you really need to have them set in concrete, it also extend the life of the wood. ❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️
I need to do this. Seems you might want to guy the end posts or they might start leaning inward with weight and cause everything to sag. Just an observation.
I’m not sure that’s going to hold the weight of grapes without boards connecting each post. You were moving the posts when setting the wire so they don’t seem like they will stand on their own with weight on the wire. Personally I’d add some cross boards now and be safe rather than finding out later you needed them when everything is more grown and mature
Wonder if I could get away with this in the town I live in...I could see it working for lots of vines...like gourds, pumpkins, melons, cucumbers...even tomatoes. But my town might see it as a fence...🤔
I fence the way the old timers did it. I use 6 foot 4x4 treated posts buried 2 feet deep. Then, run 8 guage doubled wire, attached to each post. Using a stick between the two wires, I turn the stick and it twists the two wires together creating a very sturdy wire. The stick can be removed and stored for future tightening. The vines are pruned/managed and never allowed to grow willy nilly. The vines are topped up with compost each fall, never get diseases or pests.
So glad you put in the bloopers! Very entertaining! Thanks for the video.
Glad you got a laugh out of it :)
😅😅😅😅😅 Loved the bloopers!!! Shows you're REAL! Great job!!!
This is why I love watching you amongst so many others. You’re not a know-it-all and not trying to be. You’re just sharing what you know and trying to be helpful. We love a sense of humor and down-to-earth attitude!
Quick Tip: If you choose to use untreated 4 x 4 posts then you should not drop them straight into the soil. The moisture + oxygen in the top few inches of soil will promote fungal breakdown of the wood and rot a ring around it until it collapses in a few years. You can buy some 4 x 4 vinyl or PVC sleeves to insert the bottom portion of the post into, which have weep holes to drain any collected water, but insulates the wood from the damp soil. This sleeve should rise a couple of inches above your soil line. Overall the post + sleeve should sit on top of a few inches of crushed gravel so that the post never sits in a pool of water after heavy rain. This will preserve your posts for the long haul.
Thanks for this information.
Love this guy! The other half is from Michigan and I tell him all the time we are visiting their store the next time we go up to visit your family up in the thumb!
I did mine with leftover cattle fencing. Works great. Had originally tried to find something that would shade our deck. We did a curtain and rod, however it became a sail. Then planted grapes last year. That was the coolest our deck has ever been and made it so much more vibrant.
Cattle panel and T post are the best.
I used a hog panel and am concerned it will be strong enough.
That looks great. Now how about a video about how to rescue a neglected grapevine? Heh. 😁😏
Love that you are so transparent. No one is perfect, that's called being human 👍✌️🙏😀.
I appreciate that!
The bloopers were great!
It was great meeting you this past Friday. Thankful my sister was not afraid to ask for photo (you & I) and signed pack. Me…. I never want to bother busy people.
It was great she moved to MI. That way I can stop into your stop and tell her I came to visit her all the way from IA😂😂😂
I always share your videos or send people to your channel.
You're the best!
Hello, fellow Iowan!👋
This episode of “I’m not a handyman” 😂 Bahahahaha! That’s awesome! Great video, too!
This is meant to be! I have grape seeds I've been waiting to plant because I wasn't sure how to trellis them. Awesome!
We fenced in our garden and just planted 2 grapes up against the outside of that fence. Hopefully we can get some grapes this year. 🙏
I just finished building my grape trellis yesterday, and it’s almost similar to this one, but I used concrete and spaced the posts 8 feet apart. I’m using the Mid-wire Vertical Shoot Positioning training system. However, my soil was heavy clay, which made digging almost impossible. I couldn’t believe how easy your post hole digger went through your soil compared to mine. It looks like you didn’t even break a sweat! Dealing with that clay was a real challenge; I might need to invest in a post hole auger for my next project.
Came for the grape trellis, stayed for the bloopers. 😂 Love it Luke!
Glad you enjoyed!
LOVE the human bloopers!! I just hard pruned 30-40 yr old wild muscadine vines (in Jan). No lesss than 40 grapevines. They're currently laid out on the ground - we had pulled them out of 30ft tree tops! Wild and unruly! Now, theyre bushing out with tiny baby grape clusters ☆
This trellising will be our end goal. Using T-posts and rolled hogwire for this year as we had extras and no $ for lumber/ hardware.
I love what Luke does, and I live in southern MI so it helps more than other UA-cam gardeners. I would love to see Luke do a real good episode on biologic's of soil. I am also a follower of John's methods of adding rock dust and such. I would love for you to do a full long length episode on what you understand about building good growing soil. Also how to maintain that fungal and soil symbiosis. To note at work our garden is watered with tap water. At my home, all of my house plants are watered with collected rain water.
It is "said" that using tap water has the chlorines and other chemicals that can destroy the symbiotic action of good active soil. I've followed a number of rules and last year our garden had a "tomato Forest".
Am I harming the microbiology really bad (the micros you try to build using worm castings and mycro's) by using our companies tap water? Also, I wonder what are industrial or commercially allowed rain water gathering systems allowed? I supposed I will have to contact our local authority???
To Note, I also bought into the Rock dust (Azomite) and feel that the argument on replenishing minerals in your raised growing soil is essential as your raised garden depletes those every harvest and what other manner can replace those essential items?
I'd really like to see Luke do a really good series of videos on soil biology is what I am saying I guess. John from Growing your Greens is only specific to warmer zones but I do like what he believes in. How do those priciples work in our zone here in MI?
When I was still on the farm, we used to run great fencing up using post to, but we planted anchor 5 feet before the first post, and 5 feet after the last post, and the cables came from that anchor Inn through all the holes to the other end and back to the post that was the anchor at the other end in the ground. We do all lines that way to the top. And tighten the lines. We had those two and hooks with the eye in the middle, let you could screw, and it would tighten up the length of the field.
Luke, on a short run like you made this grape trellis, I used 1/2 EMT secured to 8-ft T-Posts because the posts will never rot or lean together from the weight of the vines loaded with fruit. Everyone who has used a clothesline knows the wire gets loose and the posts lean from normal use and wet soil.
How did you secure the EMT to the t-posts? I'd like to build a low maintenance but long-term grape trellis. Appreciate any advice you have.
@@rebeccarupprecht9903 I used two-hole strap clamps and drilled #8 screws into the EMT, requires predrilling a tiny pilot hole. Its a little time consuming but worth it in the end.
This video is right on time! I had posts installed (for sail shades which have yet to be hung) and am trying to grow passion fruit between them. Here comes a diy trellis.
What an idea! I think you just answered a long time question for me - how to have shade and lovelies around my front door/porch! 💜
🤣 Thanks so much for the giggle from the bloopers, I needed it! Also, thanks a ton for this idea! I have my grapes here that I just got from MIGardener and was looking for ideas!❤
Thank you, Luke. 😊
May I make a comment on something you should consider, please? Grapes grow like crazy. They will easily get to be about 100 feet long every. year (at least where I live). Even if you cut them back 80 % every year, they will continue to grow and grow. Be prepared to wrap your grapes around that structure 10,000 times. There's a reason why I wrap my loofah's around half of my house and my grapes around the other half.
I actually used old coaxial cables for my grapes. It was a great way to repurpose it. No coaxial in my rural life now.
Great idea!
Wow, that's a great idea. What did you use to secure the ends?
@@Firevine I tied the in very loose knots then secured them to holes in the U posts that I used, with zip ties.
You got it done. Great job
Yes! Thank you!
I put posts in giving 10 ft on each side of the plant. Also, my top wire is about shoulder high, so I don't need a ladder to reach and gather, or prune. I use a heavy Guage wire...costs more, but won't be replacing it because of stretching or breaking.
In addition to using a single strand of wire (vice three), I would have also incorporated two stout eyehooks and two turnbuckles (I.e., One each at the beginning and the end). This would make it much easier for you to tension the line throughout its lifespan.
That’s a good idea!
Luke, how did you brace the end post so they don't lean towards the center once the weight of the vines and grapes ramp up? (Gravity wins!)
Perfectly timed video! I have 3 grape plants that are starting to take off and I am in a hurry to build a trellis. SO, THANKS for this :)
Thank you so much. I have been looking for this content!!
Please always give us the bloopers! 😂
This was helpful! 😁 I did something similar but my posts are too far apart and it slags in the middle, I’ve also tried different kinds of wire that haven’t worked well. Thank you!!
I consider myself a very frugal farmer and don't want to wait for those little stoppers for the end of the cable on Amazon I just tension the wire like I would stringing a fence.
Hey Luke..do you think double back tappe around raised garden beds, on the wood..would keep slugs and snails out??
I did this same thing for my blackberry vines. So sturdy. I just don’t know why we thought we needed an arbor for grapes. 🤷🏼♀️
Hello there, I was just wondering what the advantage of having a high tunnel is. Is it to extend the growing season? Or to keep out the chemicals raining down from the sky? I don’t have anything like that. Was wondering if I need to have one?
Hi Luke, I’m in zone 5b and am not sure which grapes I would like to try that will grow here in very clay soil. I have tried some vines a few years ago I purchased but it was a waste of time and money. Do you have any suggestions AND do you sell them? I’ve also tried blackberries and blueberries supposedly for this area last year. I got one blackberry from a very small twig. Basically they are still twigs, I see no growth on them at all. Since I’m new to growing fruits, I’m not sure if that’s normal at all. 😂😂thank you so much for your suggestions! Oh, I also tried Chicago hardy figs. Maybe I’m just purchasing them when they aren’t mature enough? Smh 🤦♀️ I just don’t know, but I do ok with other veggies like tomato’s and peppers!
I live in Iowa, zone 5a, also very clay soil. I have used the deep mulch method to greatly improve my soil. Plus, it retains water and I enjoy much less weeding. It takes a few years, but my 5 year old bed now has beautiful, loamy soil. This was just a suggestion to improve your garden for the future. Good luck with your berries and God bless!😊
And grapes don't just go everywhere, they take Trees down and do damage. My Dad's grapes weren't touched in 25 years or so. They took down a pear tree and a Gravenstine Apple Tree. I probably will never plant grapes ever again because of the damaged I have seen from them. But yes, staying up on the pruning is the only way to control that.
I fence the way the old timers did it. I use 6 foot 4x4 treated posts buried 2 feet deep. Then, run 8 guage doubled wire, attached to each post. Using a stick between the two wires, I turn the stick and it twists the two wires together creating a very sturdy wire. The stick can be removed and stored for future tightening. The vines are pruned/managed and never allowed to grow willy nilly. The vines are topped up with compost each fall, never get diseases or pests.
There's a tool for cutting that cable cleanly. ;)
I watch all these videos and say, "I'm doing that!" Then it sets in.....I dont have the space 😂
Great video. Loved the bloopers.
Thanks so much!
Could you use t-posts instead of the 4x4s?
That's what I was gonna try and use this week
Yes
Update on the grapes 🍇
As much work as it is digging holes in Michigan, it's darn near impossible in TN! My yard has heavily compacted clay 😕 Instead of post holes for us, we drive in metal t posts. In younger days we did this manually, but nowadays we rent a gas driver. Still not easy as the driver weighs approx 45 pounds and lifting it overhead is rough (we put it on the post while it's on the ground, make sure the bottom of the post is where we want it and then lever the whole thing up) it's easier than digging holes in what's essentially concrete!
Can u post a list of everything you need/ what kind of stops are those
I saw a post hole digger that is a giant drill bit looking thing that you twist yourself instead of using that goofy clam pinching design... It looks way easier
How do you keep the birds from eating the grapes? Once bought a house in Maryland with grape vines over a trellis in the backyard. One day I noticed the grapes that were not even close to being ripe were 90% gone. I saw a bird hanging upside down eating the remaining grapes. They were all gone within a few hours.
I've seen some vineyards which place periodic long strands of silver tinsel which waves around in the wind. The sparkling/glaring reflection of sunlight with movement seems to scare the birds off. In a home garden you can use the shiny pinwheels to do the same thing. Or perhaps the fake owl deterrent perched somewhere nearby.
There is netting you can put on top after they are done flowering.
I read that Concord grapes were the only grapes that birds didn't eat so that's what I planted about 20 years ago and it must be true because no birds have ever touched my grapes and I have lots of birds. They just ignore the grapes. My Concord grapes have seeds so although not great for fresh eating, they make great juice and jelly.
Hey Luke! I just ordered bare root strawberries from your store .. will I get strawberries this year???
Not many, but you should get a few. Year 2 will be much better :)
@@robertcotrell9810 do you know anything about raspberries? Do you need more than one plant or variety like blueberries??
@@nanablue3748 I don't believe so. I've never seen that
@@robertcotrell9810 thank you 💚🐝💚
Fair ull = ferrule
2nd year my garden is going well. Then bam, my landlord/ farmer sprays his field. The run of leave brown spots on my pea plants leaves and stems curling backwards, brown spots on radishes, and on my corn. I lost a leaf on watermelon. And in tomatoes that I have ot planted yet, sitting on my front porch, leave are curling backwards.😢 last year when my tomatoes an green bean was thriving they got the spary runoff and by time my tomatoe started to recover they got attacked by hornworms😢. Any suggestions on how to reduce or reverse affects of commercial farm herbicides?
Do you need more than one grape variety or can I just plant one.
Just one is all you need
It depends on the variety of grape vine you have. There are self-pollinating types where one plant will suffice, and there are cross-pollinating varieties which do require another plant for the pollination to occur.
Next learn how to pronounce ferrule!
If anyone does the untreated wood I recommend using cement in the holes so it doesn’t rot the wood as quickly.
Over time this will rot in the earth though.
Yes! We live in a very rainy climate and even in concrete, posts rot very quickly. We’ve found using the elevated post bases in concrete, that hold the post above the ground a bit, works best in very wet areas.
Remember to never feed doggos grapes..
I realize it would negate the cheap part, but man it'd be so much easier with a power auger.
After having waged war on grape vine in the middle of the state for over a decade now, the title of this video immediately made me anxious.
I only have one question, why didn’t you set your posts in concrete? If you’re prone to having high winds, you really need to have them set in concrete, it also extend the life of the wood. ❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️
He’s listening to The Crusaders 🙌
I planted grapes for my sister and niece then my sister who is blind in one eye and obviously can’t see out of the other weed whacked them of 😢.
Finally another gardener that isn't peeing themselves over treated lumber!!!
Treated lumber isn’t as bad as it used to be. But it is still bad. Wouldn’t use it in my garden. I work in a lumberyard.
Unless you use On Center Spacing. Then only put them 3 ft off the ground and 10ft apart LOL
Do you grow three rows of blueberries behind the trellis?
2 rows. The other is blackberry
Nice
I need to do this. Seems you might want to guy the end posts or they might start leaning inward with weight and cause everything to sag. Just an observation.
I’m not sure that’s going to hold the weight of grapes without boards connecting each post. You were moving the posts when setting the wire so they don’t seem like they will stand on their own with weight on the wire. Personally I’d add some cross boards now and be safe rather than finding out later you needed them when everything is more grown and mature
The ground was still very soft. Now that it has dried out some, they pack right in and don’t move at all hardly.
Wonder if I could get away with this in the town I live in...I could see it working for lots of vines...like gourds, pumpkins, melons, cucumbers...even tomatoes. But my town might see it as a fence...🤔
Did you call MISS DIG this time? No gas leaks 😂 teasing. But it's good for people to know before they start digging post holes. 😊
None this time!
I fence the way the old timers did it. I use 6 foot 4x4 treated posts buried 2 feet deep. Then, run 8 guage doubled wire, attached to each post. Using a stick between the two wires, I turn the stick and it twists the two wires together creating a very sturdy wire. The stick can be removed and stored for future tightening. The vines are pruned/managed and never allowed to grow willy nilly. The vines are topped up with compost each fall, never get diseases or pests.
I wouldn't put treated wood anywhere near my food.
@@DB-ek5kd that's nice