The Battle of Ap Bac | Training the ARVN (Army of Vietnam)
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- “Training ARVN” examines US Foreign Internal Defense (FID) doctrine through the early years of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. ARVN came to look like a mirror image of the US Army of the 1960s. Under American advisement, South Vietnam developed its abilities in its war against North Vietnam and the National Liberation Front. Yet ARVN’s deficiencies contributed to the United States’ decision to introduce American combat forces in 1965.
0:00 Intro
0:46 Chapter 1: Foreign Internal Defense The doctrine chapter
3:56 Chapter 2: Origins How ARVN came about
15:21 Chapter 3: Sea Swallow and Ấp Bắc Two different ARVN performances
22:34 Chapter 4: ARVN's Reputation The lasting effects of Ấp Bắc
25:32 Epilogue
27:14 Credits
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People are already concluding how poorly the ARVN performed and how it was all worthless in the end. Keep in mind that this battle only happened 4 years after the ARVN was had undergone a massive restructuring and expansion in 1959.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of the ARVN, officers and soldiers, were brand new recruits only under training for ~3-4 years. The defeat, a culmination of communication failure and lack of experience, would have been overcome by a strong officer corps. But the thing is, a strong officer corps takes generations to develop.
I am so glad you're here.
Mới huấn luyện được 3 , 4 năm thôi mà thua các chiến sỹ VC chỉ huấn luyện 3 đến 4 tháng.
@@PhongHoang-nd4leFalse. VC were dead after the Tet Offensive. NVA had much more ammunition than ARVN.
I am looking forward to this film!
I cant wait!
This film looks absolutely amazing!! Well done!!
Nice archive footage!
9:05 : Was there any significant effort to help South Vietnam develop a denser road network to help support ARVN operations ? It might also have helped boost the economy and gain more support in the countryside.
Also, since my Vietnamese is extremely rusty, is it possible to get a list of the songs used in the video ?
Yes, the U.S. did help South Vietnam improve its road network. New bridges were built and unpaved roads were, well, paved. However, PLAF did interdict roads--landmines and ambushes--which kept some key rural routes closed for much of the American War. As for your last question, we used recording form a Saigon Government radio broadcast and not individuals tracks.
The economy was entirely based on rubber for exports (I think about 80% of exports?). It would not have helped the economy - there was only so much rubber needed in the world. Also Japan was developing synthetic rubber during this time. And the city economy was basically American aid - tons of TVs, radios, etc. But all supplied by US money.
@@Dayvit78 South Vietnam had a developing economy stagnated by war. To know what could have happened if the U.S. didn't try to help South Vietnam economically is counterfactual.
I know for sure that the end credit song is a wartime recording (I believe 1971) of Ai cho tôi tình yêu - Thanh Thúy
This felt to short. I'm missing the effects of what the us army had on ARVN when they were deployed. And if anything changes when the generals came into power.
The conclusion I get is that the army failed because of its officer core. Is there going to be an analysis of Afghanistan to? Or is this to recent?
Its not a full scale documentary or analysis. It shows what training foreign military entails and what challenges it faces. Its an interesting example because it proved so misguided and unsuccesful in the end.
Be that as it may, it seems odd that the NVA didn't have corruption issues of its own. Was perhaps the way the two sides dealt with, or didn't deal with corruption, a contributing factor to the failure of the American Efforts? This failure to address Civil-Military Corruption within a FID mission seems to be an ongoing thing with the Army. To my mind, as both an ex-infantry and ex-civil-affairs solder, running down and then addressing this corruption is THE MISSION for Civil Affairs in a FID mission! There is no way the Army is going to succeed in future FID missions with Civil Affairs Subordinate to JSOC. Civil Affairs needs its own 4-star command and its own permanent G/S Shop on staff!
the PAVN was politically motivated so while they almost certainly had problems with corruption, suffering it to such a level it impacted operations would have been something the north vietnamese government would've fought against, specially with the battlefield pressures the americans gave.
Whatever corruption issues the NVA had, they likely covered them up.
Only happy memories remain behind the corruption that undermined the might of the ARVN
The major reason that caused the ARVN to collapse is Bolero (Spanish music) that music is just too good it caused soldiers to lost morale significantly to the point of desertion
ARVN problem was poor leadership and politicians! Arvn was just as capable in combat as NVA/VC there was no difference in them. However, political meddling, corruption, and poor leadership destroyed that. US should've taken full control of ARVN in 55 and not relinquished that control without withholding support! Colonel David Hackworth wrote about this in "ABOUT FACE "! peace
Wrong , arvn soldier are mix quality , there really good division that can rival any nva division aka the airbone , marine , ranger ,.. then there more shitty division form by mostly drafty
@@jerryle379 Draftees can perform on battlefield if well lead. Corruption and poor leadership never allowed for them to become competent units!
They only lost because of low ammunition and supplies. They were given 60 bullets a day after the USA left.
@@TranHungDao. US Congress also reduced and then cut off aid. All for nothing..sad!
@@guyring8912 Yeah, there was one Arvn battalion who was known to be corrupt, they ruined it for the whole arvn. Most of Arvn were not corrupt, most of the ARVN was defending an invasion. The ARVN never left a man behind, there was a story about this USA soldier who was a football player that got stuck in one of the holes. Instead of retreating, ARVN stood by him and fought off the Viet Cong and NVA. No one ever talks about the courage of the ARVN, they literally fought til the end.
Weaponized incompetence and weaponized corruption is the Truth we are never told. Politically motivated, Ideological motivation, and the truth left out is Theological motivation in our attempts to create a Catholic dictatorship. Do you think the South Vietnamese Buddhist gave their all fighting for an essentially Catholic system?
Communist Domino Effect is just Kissinger's Hallucination...
It literally came true. Nicaragua went communist, and tried to turn the rest of Central America communist shortly after the communists took Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
@@ian-Alex-2000 just not the way the US imagine Domino Effect but true.
@@RVNSaigon Absolutely! Dominoes fell. Not the dominoes we thought would fall, but they fell nonetheless! Assuming your username represents where you’re from, I hope you get your country back soon, friend!
@@ian-Alex-2000 thank you but that is not priority right now. Priority right now is be a thriving successful US citizen and pass knowledge to next generation.
The whitewash continues. Another Bright, Shining Lie!