Student Pilot Solo with ENGINE ISSUES | Other Pilots Help him Land!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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Great job controller and pilots!!
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Archie 2024 nominee?
Why did he have to copy a phone number? He followed procedures start to finish.
"Anybody else who wants to call: DON'T!" Great job controller
What did he mean by that?
@@redandblue1013 He wanted to make clear that the Emergency Aircraft has full Priority. Probably because he realised it's a Student Flying Solo. So everybody keeps Radio Silence unless asked by ATC. Too much Babble on the Radio could confuse ATC, Pilot and the Instructors.
100% great ATC
@@thevoid7480 It makes my eyes roll when sometimes pilots are aware of an ongoing emergency and they just have to go "XYZ ready for departure" or some crap like that. Like dude, read the room.
@@rinleez "Yeah, do you know how long of a delay it's going to be?"
0:56 "Anyone else who wants to call, DON'T"
Controller is giving 100% attention to the emergency. Hush.
Great job handing him off to the jump aircraft to verify the landing rather than push to give the phone number to a student solo concentrated on getting on the ground.
These guys were born to be pilot and ATC... calmness and competence at its finest
And the other pilots were very professional, too - obeying ATC and offering help at the right time.
What a promising student pilot. Remains cool, calm, and collected the entire time. Great airmanship all around on this freq.
Yup. Also n enlisting the help of other aircraft at two points, first getting an instructor to give hints and then requesting verification of the student landing from another. Good work!
Whatever awards can be given for excellence in an aircraft controller should be given to this guy.
What an incredibly good job!
Guy is a rockstar!
it's called the Archie award! I agree he should get one.
@@propertymanagement7011 Archie League Award.
totally agree
@@propertymanagement7011 there's plenty of other better instances. For instance the F18 incident in Alaska.
@@SlankeyDawg each region is given an Archie award so the controllers in Alaska would not be competing with the controllers in California.
A+ for controller. Spoke extra clearly and slowly and calmly not knowing if the engine could potentially fail at any second. I think you could even hear the engine surging in some of the transmissions. Would be terrifying as a new student pilot. Perfect outcome.
Ayyyyyy that’s my CFI in 346CP! Great job helping him out Hunter!
Textbook illustration of how to do it. Controller on top of game, pilot stayed calm and worked the problem, and the aviation community showed itself proud.
Great Controller, Good Pilot stayed calm.
Outstanding job by the controller
This audio should be saved for flight instruction. It is a great example of what TO do. The student had good radio skills and mostly said 114. He didn’t a few times but the next call or call after he did. Given the emergency even that was sound. Well trained.
I was tearing at everyone offering suggestions about carb heat, leaning, etc. and the other plane offering to watch him land.
Everyone on frequency was a credit to aviation; the student pilot, the controller, and the instructors. This is how it's done.
Controller did a phenomenal job!! Knew exactly what the pilot needed without even asking, and even relayed weather to ease their workload!! Hope their sup gave them a huge pat on the back for their work 👏👏
He either have carb icing or his tachometer is broken, I've had both happened to me. Since it doesn't look like he's losing much altitude during the duration of the emegency and how wildly the RPM swing according to him, I would put money on his tachometer being broken.
One lesson that new GA pilots need to know and I only learned via experience is to also use your ears. If the tachometer is saying you are gaining 500-1000 rpm very quickly but you don't hear any audible engine noise surging/changing, you can somewhat assume that your tachometer is broken, still pull carb heat and land asap.
For carburator engine with carb icing, I heard my engine slowly losing rpm and audibly throttling back. Like the instructors said, pulling carb heat will make it run rougher, you just have to leave it in and adjust the mixture to keep the engine running. It will run extremely rough and cough quite hard if a big chunk of ice melt and introduce a lot of water into the engine.
In either case absent of other issues, pitch for best glide and trouble shoot the problem. Climb if pitching for best glide mean you will climb. You might need the altitude to glide back down if your engine totally die. Once you are over the airport, doing a spiraling descent with reduce engine power close enough to the runway where you can perform a power off 180s if your engine suddenly die is your best bet if you have to skills/know how to do the maneuver. As always, consult your actual CFI and go out and practice various engine out scenarios.
That controller literally came out of the womb wearing a headset! Best handling I’ve ever heard involving helping out a student solo with an emergency! 👏👏 Out’friggin’standing work!!!!
Great job by the student pilot as well.
Everybody did awesome! ATC, student pilot, and the other pilots on frequency. Kudo's all around.
Fantastic controller! Loved that assertiveness "Anyone else who wants to call... don't!". Aka do not distract me with unnecessary radio comms so I can focus on this pilot.
maybe his intention also was to not to distract the student pilot
! ! ! ALL THE COMPLIMENTS FOR THIS CONTROLLER WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH ! ! !
He, Without a Doubt, Should Be Awarded !
He Is The Best Example I See In a Long Time !
! ! ! CONGRATULATIONS MISTER CONTROLLER ! ! !
! ! ! YOU MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE ! ! !
That young pilot leveled up on that experience 👍🏻
I happened to be in that same exact area, in a 152, and RPM's did the same exact thing he said. Turned out to be carb icing. I also landed at Oceanside to be safe! Other flight instructors said the mountains specifically in that area create an area of humid air.
Wow! What a great pilot. So well done. It took a while to see the airport but sometimes when the adrenaline is pumping you can't see what you are right on top of. He kept calm and communicated well. Super nice job by all involved! Bravo!
And if it's in a small canyon it can be hard to see even without the adrenaline
Isn’t it pilot’s discretion to officially have the airfield in sight? Not officially seeing it means you continue to receive vectors which can be helpful in a situation where you’re already task saturated.
@@MilamberinxI think the ATC would continue to assist in this case. The emergency gets priority.
Amazing this controller acted the same even not knowing if an instructor was on board. His tone and directions were the same from initial contact. PROFESSIONAL as it gets
we are never alone... Team Resource Management at a glance!!! Awesome job!!!!!!!!!!! bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Superb ATC, he knew what was needed, he was calm and spoke clearly. He didn’t have any arrogance like some others who ask the most ridiculous questions.
Good outcome too!
Many days, i think a lot of us wonder if what we do really matters. Something this ATC will never need to ask.
This needs to be a training tape.
Words fall short how good this controller was, how calm the student was and how disciplined the others were with to the point, helpful tips.
Exemplary. I want this controller in my emergency.
Thanks controller!
Good job from the student pilot, and excellent job by the controller getting the pilot as much help as he possibly could give him.
Fantastic Job by the Air traffic controller,CFI who trained him, and student pilot
Awesome congroller, declared the emergency for him and told everyone else to keep it shut.
Heard lastnight on jfk ground an alert 2 around 10:30 I think. It was a heavy from Atlanta going to Rome was a divert to jfk they didn’t specify the nature of the emergency but taxied to the gate.
Working on it
At the end of the day everything worked out successfully for the pilot, so this is absolutely not a criticism of his actions... just a postflight observation from 0ft/0kts: with winds out of the west, he was coming into a smaller un-towered airfield with a 2,700ft x 75ft runway running 070-250 which meant either extending his time in the air to enter a downwind for 25, or attempting a tailwind landing on 07 with less than 3,000ft. Camp Pendleton MCAS was nearly identical distance, but has a 6,005ft x 221ft runway, a manned tower, and crash/rescue equipment that would be standing by in the event things went wrong on landing. The length of the runway would have also been more than sufficient to make a tailwind straight-in landing to get on the ground quicker. The fact that it's a military airfield doesn't matter to an emergency aircraft.
Non-pilot here. I may be completely wrong but isn't there a pretty big mountain ridge to get over to get to Pendleton from the west. I assume that would be more dangerous than gliding to Bob Maxwell
His workload may have been a bit too high to be studying the charts. He may have known Bob Maxwell from a previous flight and been more comfortable with it. Who knows. For a student pilot, he did at least as well as expected and, I would argue, probably better than expected. The fact that there are areas where he was imperfect are both unsurprising and expected. The simple fact is that he remained calm, dealt with the issue as best he could, and found a place to land safely. Every decision he made was justifiable and reasonable and that, really, is all you can ever hope for at any stage of a piloting journey. Guy did well.
There is a mishap I'm familiar with where a GA pilot with engine problems overflew Dover AFB in Delaware because both he and the ATC controller didn't think he could land at a military airport. He crashed and died. I'd rather explain to security forces how I ended up on an Air Force base than turn into a burning hole in the ground.
@@zone2Ironman, I remember reading about that incident. We've had two GA aircraft land on my base in the past 5ish years due to emergencies.
@@zone2Ironman wow, almost unbelievable.. would the pilot had made it if he decided to land at that military airfield?
Fantastic teamwork!
I want to bear hug this controller! Amazing job, brother. You are ATC gold!!!
Love our SoCal pilot community! Great job to everyone involved.
Absolute professionals - all of them!
Love this controller.
He owned it.
Completely.
Great job by pilot too.
Owned it without bring arigant about it
One of the best controllers I’ve ever heard. Absolutely perfect - above and beyond, even for an emergency.
What a great video! ATC and Pilot were great along with everyone around either helping or shutting up.
THIS CONTROLLER IS A ROCKSTAR! OUTSTANDING JOB!
That was the absolute finest work I’ve ever witnessed by an ATC controller. Well handled to the nth degree. This should be a training film for every controller as an exemplary example as to how to manage a stressful situation. I salute you sir. To the pilot. Well managed, but communicate better what you see so the controller can follow along a little better. Well handled!
This controller is amazing. Great job!
And that is exactly how you handle an emergency!
Extremely well done by SoCal approach!
Teamwork makes the dreamwork! Good job ATC and all. Cheers.
Amazing ATC, especially immediately understanding the situation and declaring an emergency for the guy.
Brilliant atc guy there. 👏👏
He appeared for this pilot like a guardian angel.
Everything he did was perfect, empathic, calm, and rational.
Great work ATC, respect sent to you and the flight instructors who jumped in. Count that as a probably life saved. 👍🇺🇸 The pilot of 114 was cool headed. That always helps.
Great job to the student and his instructor! Well done!
Fantastic job controller, and superb work Captain. Your flight instructor should be proud of you man! If you can handle this that well as a student pilot, you’re going to be one hell of a professional pilot one day soon. And what a story for your airline interviews 😃👏
This controller worked me in on Saturday, great controller then too!
I'd like to buy that controller a drink.... or three. Great lad, well done! Good stuff from the other pilots too. Makes me happy.
what a solid controller, awesome work
Amazing ATC and the pilots. Everyone simply amazing. Loved this video......
Excellent team work here.
Controller of the year and excellent crowd source.
Awesome controller.
Cool behind the wheel and cool on the scope equals a happy ending. Well done BOTH of you.
Fantastic Controller
What an awesome community.
Really nice multi-tasking by the controller, like the way he managed the frequency
ROCK SOLID. Like clockwork. Well done, ladies and gentlemen.
Excellent job to all involved. Especially the controller.
What a great community!
ATC is just amazing. Wow.
Best controller I’ve ever heard. Would be an honor to fly under him.
After all this I want to buy the controller and student pilot a drink. Awesome job by everyone.
We need to find them
@@VASAviation Please update us if you ever do!
Everyone came together for that one. Great work by all.
Nice job all side !
We need more controllers like him ! Amazing
All the bad controllers, horrible pilots and general all around charlie foxtrots...we have to remember there are folks like these out there too...man if I am ever in trouble I want this guy talking to me
And that my friends is why they call it the aviation community.
No way! I was in 2989U listening to all this go down!
That controller deserves a raise. Impressive work.
Great job by the controller. Did they found the cause of the problem he dealt with?
Finally, I get to hear a competent student solo. Fantastic job by everyone involved.
landing on ground is much better than in sea. kudos to all.
Great job by controller, but when asked about straight in landing, I think he should have answered "keep in mind that would give you 10-15 kts TAILWIND". Landing straight in would have been super dangerous and being task saturated, the pilot may not have selected proper runway.
It does look from last few seconds of the video that pilot landed into the wind, good for him
Hearing the engine surging when the mic was keyed was like taking a wild ride with him.
Fantastic job by all involved... This is CRM!
Awesome work of both and all other involved!
Not on every students' bucketlist!
Everyone did a great job.
Great work by everyone. We need more of this
Nice, controller dealt with an emergency call, gave other pilos (instructors oppertunity to coach the student fimilar with the carbed 172 a chance to offer guidence) and had other traffic hold and stayed with the emergency to assist finding the airfield. Nice job by all...
8:09 "decimal" Finally! some! American ATC!
Everyone did very well. That ATC did a great job managing traffic and protecting that student.
More controllers like this one. Also great help from fellow pilots. Thumbs up.
Similar issue happened to me when I was a student pilot. The cause was a stuck valve.
A great pilot isn't determined by how they handle a routine operation, they are made by how they handle a non-routine routine operation.
amazing coordination going on there ✌️
That controller should get an award.
Twin engine Cessna just crashed next to my house in Troutdale OR. The ATC comms are pretty wild.....
Phenomenal ATC Controller! 👍🏻
Well done to all involved.
Every time I solo as a student I always fear this would happen.
It can be daunting but don’t over complicate it. Remember your training, configuration, flows and acronyms. My next flying lesson is forced landings (like this video). Just remain calm, take a deep breath and follow what I’ve mentioned. Godspeed
This was a great experience for him of how carb icing effects engine performance......he'll never forget it and will recognize right away if it occurs again.
@@theadmiral5425 at the other hand, despite the helpful hints given by the instructors on that frequency, the issue still persisted for the rest of the flight, didn't it?
@@jochen_schueller The video doesn't say so we'll never know for sure...his last report was it was getting better although still surging but that's carb icing for ya.
what a great community
Nice work GoJump3, awesome focus SoCal :-)