When I started to think twice about the press fittings because I found I had leaks here and there I was starting to question them and how reliable they were, but then I did discover as I was new to the system that I absolutely was not prepping it step-by-step, and once I started to do the proper Prep the fittings worked flawlessly.
This was the first one I ever used back in 2018 when I first got into hvac. We were a small company so hardly ever used it bc the price of the fittings. Good to have on special occasions
I have been using the RLS system for a few years. Good stuff. I have the compact Milwaukee press and have the mega press gas jaws and copper press jaws its great.
But I will add on the quarter inch fittings like the couplings even with proper prep. It was still so easy to push the O-ring out of the fitting that you really gotta check those and the other thing don’t rely on the stop in the fitting in the coupling because the pipe will push past it, so absolutely mark the fitting with the gauge and stick to the depth mark on the pipe.
The only thing that worries me about cutting off the flares and pressing those connections on the indoor heads is, I’ve had heads that I’ve had replacing the past and it’s nice to be able to break the flares to remove the heads and replace them for any reason whether it’s for cleaning or for replacement. But I definitely agree with wanting to just press everything and it’s way easier. It’s one system. It’s faster and it is reliable.
Sorry, I accidentally sent a message before i finished….I installed RLS on 7/8” and 3/8” Aspen fan/coil that were a fraction of an inch smaller and the jaws didn’t crimp tight and the fittings moved a little after crimping. THEY DID NOT LEAK!! RLS tech support said they’ll probably will be fine.
Thank you sir! I have a question. Are the copper lines ever different size on either side of the flare? I may be mistaken but I thought I came across that on a Samsung indoor wall unit . If so I guess we just make sure we get a reducer.
So the milwaukee m12 force logic short throw press tool is a suitable replacement for this? I guess that tool comes with jaws for Pex and you would have to buy aftermarket jaws for the copper pipe size you want? Is that right? And is the fitting for water the same one you use for refrigerant natural gas etc? Thank you
I’ve done a lot of research about these products. The price of getting set up with this is way out of range for your average technician. Milwaukee has a tool that uses these fittings. All of the tools are crazy prices. The RLS brand has a better warranty than other products (15 years). I just wish the tools were cheaper.
Thanks for the great video. My main concern about these fittings is that they might show leaks in systems with sudden temperature changes e.g. a freezer using hot gas as a defrost mechanism. I am afraid if the sudden thermal contraction and expansion can lead to leaks around the fittings. Have you tried it in such systems?
Hey Taddy, Did you know I can’t voice texting your name? It keeps coming up as Teddy.. But that’s OK. I have a question for you, When it comes to cutting off the flare on mini split lines on the heads, I noticed that sometimes the line that’s on the head looks like a different size than the line that I’m running to the head. Is this true at times?
yes be careful when cutting the connection sometimes the mini splits have different size copper for example you may be using 3/8 od and the mini split has 3/8 id
I am wondering how well this will hold up to the vibration, thermal cycling, and o-ring deterioration over the course of a normal product lifetime.? Also is there a way to undo these couplings besides cutting them off in case they do start leaking?
So, where's the "Hack" part from the title bro? To me that suggest that there's something special that you can do to make using this tool easier or to get around a known problem. All this was, was a demo of the tool. Which is fine, but the title is a little click baitey. 🤔 🤦♂️
Ridiculously over priced for such old tech. To bad. They try to sell it off as a labor time saver. Oxy\acty for me. Even the fittings are crazy money. Never did buy into this
When I started to think twice about the press fittings because I found I had leaks here and there I was starting to question them and how reliable they were, but then I did discover as I was new to the system that I absolutely was not prepping it step-by-step, and once I started to do the proper Prep the fittings worked flawlessly.
I’ve been using RLS and love it. The recent issue I experienced was an Aspen 5-ton fan/coil that had 7/8” and 3/8” stub outs that were about a 32
Thank you for watching 👀 😀
This was the first one I ever used back in 2018 when I first got into hvac. We were a small company so hardly ever used it bc the price of the fittings. Good to have on special occasions
Include price fittings to your quotes they’ll pay it change your mindset
I have been using the RLS system for a few years. Good stuff. I have the compact Milwaukee press and have the mega press gas jaws and copper press jaws its great.
Very cool
I've wondered about the gas jaws
And how good it works
What the Milwaukee RLS jaw model number for the kit
Gotta love how easy and clean press fittings look! What do you think of that "stay Brite 8" stuff? Keep up the awesome content brother!
Awesome tool makes for a quick and easy job
You got that right!
Good review. Definitely, it's in my tool list for the future.
Right on
Man I can’t wait to be able to get this
Be careful with soft/annealed copper, as you mentioned, the prep is the most important part
But I will add on the quarter inch fittings like the couplings even with proper prep. It was still so easy to push the O-ring out of the fitting that you really gotta check those and the other thing don’t rely on the stop in the fitting in the coupling because the pipe will push past it, so absolutely mark the fitting with the gauge and stick to the depth mark on the pipe.
Great tool... well explained..don't think you would use this as a give away😂
I may
The only thing that worries me about cutting off the flares and pressing those connections on the indoor heads is, I’ve had heads that I’ve had replacing the past and it’s nice to be able to break the flares to remove the heads and replace them for any reason whether it’s for cleaning or for replacement. But I definitely agree with wanting to just press everything and it’s way easier. It’s one system. It’s faster and it is reliable.
Good point!
Thanks for video Tad! But yes I agree it’s very over priced for most technicians.
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Sorry, I accidentally sent a message before i finished….I installed RLS on 7/8” and 3/8” Aspen fan/coil that were a fraction of an inch smaller and the jaws didn’t crimp tight and the fittings moved a little after crimping. THEY DID NOT LEAK!! RLS tech support said they’ll probably will be fine.
That's interesting, I have never heard of this happening before, but I trust RLS.
Thank you sir! I have a question. Are the copper lines ever different size on either side of the flare? I may be mistaken but I thought I came across that on a Samsung indoor wall unit .
If so I guess we just make sure we get a reducer.
yes sometimes copper is different size
FYI, the 1/4 line on the Pioneer / Midea units are not 1/4” on the evap side. I learned this the hard way!
Great job and i can see its definitely a great tool just not sure i can justify its price point. Im sure prices will come down soon enough
So the milwaukee m12 force logic short throw press tool is a suitable replacement for this? I guess that tool comes with jaws for Pex and you would have to buy aftermarket jaws for the copper pipe size you want? Is that right? And is the fitting for water the same one you use for refrigerant natural gas etc? Thank you
I'm not sure
I’ve done a lot of research about these products. The price of getting set up with this is way out of range for your average technician. Milwaukee has a tool that uses these fittings. All of the tools are crazy prices. The RLS brand has a better warranty than other products (15 years). I just wish the tools were cheaper.
Love the video! Thanks for sharing :)
Hey! Greetings! Excellent video! Thank you for such valuable information. I was wondering where can I get that tool?
Thank you!
check out Rapid locking system .com
This was a great video. I hate flares and always braze these fittings.
Thanks for the video. What is the kilo newton thrust on that tool. Mine is a 19kn. Is yours a 15kn???
I love that thing! What can you tell us about zoom lock max?
32 kn
Wow that awesome. Did Parker go with the zoom lock max jaws and fittings?
How do you remove press fittings to replace an item
Cut the copper next to the press fitting
Thanks for the great video. My main concern about these fittings is that they might show leaks in systems with sudden temperature changes e.g. a freezer using hot gas as a defrost mechanism. I am afraid if the sudden thermal contraction and expansion can lead to leaks around the fittings. Have you tried it in such systems?
I have not tried it on freezer equipment but I did try on cooler equipment a couple weeks ago.
Nice video. Are you using windex for the leak check?
Soap and water
Remember guys to buy the prop gun that do everything from Hvac to Plumbing
Good point
Do you plan on charging for use of the press tool due to the time savings?
I charge for the fittings for sure
Great video thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
435 psi on indoor coil now that would scare me, what is the low and high test design pressure?
Samsung actually recommends that the pressure that you test should be at least five hundred and ninety p s I.
@@TaddyDigest oh wow good for Samsung if it handles 590 it can surely handle the few hundred that it runs on the regular
I bought eight of them. It was a lot of money where the hell do you get those fittings for that price?
Ed supply
Hey Taddy, Did you know I can’t voice texting your name? It keeps coming up as Teddy.. But that’s OK. I have a question for you, When it comes to cutting off the flare on mini split lines on the heads, I noticed that sometimes the line that’s on the head looks like a different size than the line that I’m running to the head. Is this true at times?
yes be careful when cutting the connection sometimes the mini splits have different size copper
for example you may be using 3/8 od and the mini split has 3/8 id
I am wondering how well this will hold up to the vibration, thermal cycling, and o-ring deterioration over the course of a normal product lifetime.?
Also is there a way to undo these couplings besides cutting them off in case they do start leaking?
I'm pretty sure I would have to cut them off if they leaked.
Love it, but wouldn't use it at my house. Everybody else's house sure lol
Why
Those fittings look easy to cut out and braze later when the leaks start.
R,L,S, is taking overall
Dude, I just paid $37 from my supply house for a 7/8 elbow!
"Ohhh Rigid."
Those are some expensive fittings. But for what HVAC techs make, they probably pay for themselves in time savings.
Wait a minute I use a lot of half-inch with mini splits too?!?!
The fittings are way to much money. Can’t really charge the costumer for this unless you give them the choice
So, where's the "Hack" part from the title bro? To me that suggest that there's something special that you can do to make using this tool easier or to get around a known problem. All this was, was a demo of the tool. Which is fine, but the title is a little click baitey. 🤔 🤦♂️
Over 100% markup on the fittings to the customer? That’s a rip off
If a fitting cost five dollars and you mark it up to ten, that's not a rip off
I agree with you Taddy! Absolutely double the cost of the fitting under 100 bucks. Trying to run a business here, not a free-for-all
you missed the mark...
Ridiculously over priced for such old tech. To bad. They try to sell it off as a labor time saver. Oxy\acty for me. Even the fittings are crazy money. Never did buy into this
Got it thank you for the experience and your knowledge