ATV aDrums First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2018
- The aDrums line is the flagship set from the company ATV. At it's price it's directly competing with the TD25KVX and Pearl eMerge, so how does it hold up? Here are my thoughs:
Cymbals: These are some of the best electronic cymbals you can buy on the market. The sizes are great (14/16/18) and they are incredibly thin. They also have 360 triggering, something that isn't very common in ecymbals. My only complaint is that these cymbals can get small micro-dents. This doesn't affect performance, but Is a bit annoying.
Drums: Solid sizes once again (18/13/13/10). No hot-spotting in the center of the drums due to the triangle of piezos near the rim edges. The drums also respond very dynamically. Everything has 2ply mesh heads on them, and the the kick especially feels very solid. The only thing I would change is making the floor tom into a 14" shell, and using 3ply mesh heads.
Module: this is totally optional, you can buy the drumset without the aD5. It sounds great, and has many sample layers, so it's very dynamic. Even so It's my least favorite element of the kit because it only comes with 5 kits, has no faders, and offers no sound editing options.
Overall, this is a killer kit worth every penny.
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Great video. Having the Pro and Con at the end is a nice touch.
Thanks Robert :)
I own a set of these. I have the expanded set with 18" bass, 14" hi hats, 2-16" and 1-18" cymbals, 2-10" mounted toms, 13" floor tom, and 13" snare. I bought the Roland TD-50 upgrade with the digital snare and 18" ride cymbal. I love the kit! I've played live with it 4x now and I'm using it with the Bose L1-1S PA system and they sound like mic'd acoustic drums. I love this kit. I had been using a DTXtreme III special with SD3 software. This kit is way better. the hi hat does make more noise, because of the plastic bottom "cymbal." I bought rubber drum rim silencer and put it around the outside of the bottom cymbal and it works perfectly. The hi hat works by light and the cymbals have to completely close for the brain to proper read the hi hats' movements.
Apart from the hats and cymbals, can the drums make a sound without the module? I'm asking because they look very much like acoustic drums
ATV drums are great and they work work most if not all of the Edrum modules out. Great review Justin.
Would this kit be worth upgrading to from a Roland TD12 11 piece kit? I use Superior Drummer, so the module would not be important here.
Thanks for the review, Justin! I will have a chance to play the Adrums next weekend at Gearfest :)
I hope I can make it there too :)
Hands down, ATV was the best electronic drums which was the closest to the sound and feel of acoustic drums that I have ever played. I just wished their module had MIDI in and out ports. The vision of Roland founder and ATV founder Ikutaro Kakehashi was always adavanced in times and ATV drums was one of his final projects. RIP, Mr. Kakehashi.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. I really like the e china cymbal. Didnt even know those were an option! Very cool.
Thanks Bill :)
Thanks for the detailed review, Justin. I think the ATV pads look and feel great -- I play club-sized acoustic drums, so the transition felt natural. Was the module you tested super slow to respond and load kits? That single drawback kind of eclipsed the whole playing experience for me. I also noticed quite a bit of machine gunning on the preset kits. Maybe it needed a firmware update.
Hey Justin, great channel! I've owned the ATV aDrums Expanded kit with the aD5 module for about 4 months now and absolutely love it. When I first got it I had to spend some time tweaking the trigger settings, but thankfully that's pretty easy to do. Before buying this kit I'd been gigging with the Roland TD-4KP for about 5 years, so the difference was like night and day. I still keep the 4KP around for gigging purposes, but I no longer take that set out of its carrying case while at home. I guess that leads to the only thing I don't like about the aDrums, but also a reason why I bought them: the size/look. These are a hassle to move around, but that's no surprise; it just pains me having to leave these at home and take the Roland out gigging.
All in all, it's an amazing set. I'm not sure if it's the drums, the module, or a combination of both, but the dynamic range feels extremely wide. This is the closest an electronic drum package has ever come to replicating the acoustic drum experience, with the notable exception of complaining neighbors. Highly recommended to anyone shopping for a set in this price range!
Hey man, rly love the vids. Got a little idea, you should start giving the diffrent sets you play points in different areas. Like size of the pads, sound, value, durability etc. And then make a list so we can se how they stack up against each other.
I loved my atv expanded set with the pearl mimic pro module. I did a lot of recording with it and had great results (paired with trigger 2.0 and slate digital bundle) I had to sell it last year due to the arrival of my daughter. Now im in the market again after wishing I held onto it. I cant find the full atv kit anywhere. Just bits and pieces on reverb. Thinking of just going with the roland 506 and triggering with s3. Love all your videos Justin. So informative! You're #1 in the edrum world on youtube IMO
Great review, Justin! I own the ATV aD5 module, 14" hi-hat, 18" ride, and 13" snare. The rest of my e-kit are Roland (KD120, three PD80 toms, PD120 floor tom) and Roland crash cymbals. I'm using a splitter cable from drumsplitters.com so that I can have a third rack tom and a splash (Roland CY-5). Splitter cable is in Aux1 and Aux 2 is my additional crash. While the module comes with 5 stock kits, there are many to download for free, so my module actually has over a dozen kits (one of the DrumTec videos showcases additional free kits, like Dry Oxnard, Pop Life, etc.). Love this kit and it's very easy to use the module with your existing Roland pads, if you wanted. Over the top stellar customer support as well, including phone calls and skype sessions to help you dial stuff in, if needed.
a great first impressions, Justin
Thanks John :)
You mentioned that the kit only comes with two ply mesh heads, but do you know if you could change out their heads for 3 ply mesh heads and not hamper the performance of their triggering capability?
Great video! I know this is an old one but I've looked around and I can't seem to find anywhere that will let me purchase this kit, is there anyway I can get my hands on something at least close to the kit in this video?
If i buy this drumset, are the 2 ply mesh heads exchangeable for some 3 ply ones?
Great video! The best module for the ADrums set is the Roland TD-17 IMO. Potentially the drumit3, as it seems to have 3 zone trigger inputs. However, the aDrums set is a great set. They deserve a price for the design:) No weird looks, no ugly colours and great quality.
YES! I'm tired of terrible looking electronic drumsets :) Glad this one looks nice
im planning to get atv drums with roland td 17 module
This is the exact same set up I'm considering. Did you end up getting it? If so, how is it?
dwdrummer no i didnt i changed my mind to get an acoustic kit with low volume cymbals and meshpads
That's what I'm using right now and I can't stand it. Haha. Good luck with your journey!
Awesome vid, I wish I could have a drum. We can't afford it so I play on buckets. I love the drums
You'll have an awesome set one day. I remember when I played on buckets before I could afford a drumset
I remember when I was a student I played on desk and knees. After 10 years of dreaming to buy a drumset, I finally saved enough money to afford a TD-30k.
Awesome review. What's the acoustic volume of the shells compared to Roland pads?
Thank you :) great review!
Thanks Mickey :)
Very informative like always. Thanks.. I'm always floored by these prices. Idk how any of you afford this kind of gear. I'm 35 and started playing around 10. I'm mainly a guitar player. There has never been a time in all of those years that sum total cost of my gear combined (guitar and drums) has equalled the price of this drum set. Couple thousand on guitar goodies, couple thousand on drum goodies and that's it. It's not like I make minimum wage either. I'm a supervisor for a contractor at the jersey shore. Idk how you guys do it.. I'm not the best at math but I think if this kind of high end gear was cheaper they would move exponentially more units making up for it.
Electronic drums are just incredibly expensive no matter where you look. And even this drumset is half the price of a Roland TD50KVX at around $7000
I feel exactly the same when I see people in a new BMW or merc lol.. I chose to buy drums instead of a car as I use a work van for work. Just prioritise my man, good luck
Hi Justin. So glad you did this review! I’m still a bit confused though on available kits on the aD5. I emailed ATV the link to the DrumTec video 6+ months ago, and they stated all the additional kits featured are available via free download once you register your module. Meaning there are 12 kits total (plus the available sounds for purchase on the ATV site). Wondering if you have to “build” the kits from the available free sounds or ? Ie “Dry Oxnard”, “Unplugged”, “Poplife” etc. ?
The remaining kit sounds and profiles are free downloads.
Own ATV set, great set for the price. However wish they used 3ply at least on the bass drum rather then 2ply. I used a wood beater without a bass drum patch and it dented the head on a gig right away.
Call ATV rep and he told me after the fact that I should have used a plastic beater with a patch instead. I've always used a wood beater with my Roland KD120...never had a problem.
Hey Justin. Very nice review on the ATV aDrums. I'm actually considering purchasing the 4 piece as I prefer minimal as opposed to some overblown set. I do love the look and sound of these drums. Hoping I am making a wise choice.
Hi Art - just curious if you ended up going with the ATV kit and, if so, how you like them. Thanks!
I love my ad5 module and the fact its easy to set up was a big reason i got it,that and it sounds great.Also theres a pretty good amount of great free sounds.
That's a good point
Hi and thanks for sharing your video.
You briefly mentioned you like the ATV Kick Drum better than the Roland KD-180. Could you maybe elaborate more on this? I am currently looking to buy a Bass Drum Trigger pad and have narrowed it down to the KD-180 and the ATV Bass Drum. Not being able to test them out prior to purchase leaves me looking for videos such as yours.
Since they have different technology for their striking head, I was wondering about accuracy of triggering vs feel and playability of both these drums heads.
Thanks!
Would love to hear folks weigh in on this too!
Great video! What about posicional sensing in the snare? It works with superior drummer 3 or a top Roland module? Thanks!
Positional sending is copyrighted by Roland so no one else is allowed to use it right now. Yes it works with sd3
I think the idea of having a module that you can customize is perfect, being able to buy whatever sounds you want and not the ones you don't want or would never use. Every company should be doing this. But I agree that you should also be able to tweak settings, eq, and pitch of drums as well. Seems like they have some good ideas. Wish someone would take the good parts of every drum module and slam them together and make the perfect drum module. And being able to add and remove sounds should be standard. Then they could keep the cost of the unit down, making more money off sound upgrades etc. Hopefully the future brings some more intelligent modules. Most of us buy these things for recording or practice purposes, and the price is hard to justify that. Keeping noise levels down at rehearsal is really important, at least to me and my band members who have experienced the fatiguing effects of loud and beyond loud levels. It's easy for an ignorant person to say..."tell your drummer to be more dynamic, and learn to play quieter"...or..."get a larger practice space!" Yea that's all easy to say....but that's not always the case, nor is it always the answer. And anyone who has ever played before can tell you that. Hey I would love to have our practice sessions be in a perfectly set up large room with the best of the best for equipment and acoustics, but it's just not an option.
Would you buy this kit with the aD5 or a Roland TD17 for ~350 less? Are these pads fully compatible with the TD17, especially the hi hat and the 3 zone crashes? From what I've heard, the aD5 sounds better and if I want to tweak my sounds like crazy, I'd just use SD3...
Can you just strike the side rim piece on the snare to get it to trigger, or do you have to have the stick on the snare drum etc. Thanks Justin!
If they had done a 14" floor tom, then the snare would be 14" too as it saved from tooling another size of the ring mount for the 3 piezo setup. You can expand your set well past the 5 piece mark though as the expansion pack and the floor toms are also available separately. I currently have a 3 up 2 down all ATV setup (adding an expansion pack to the expanded kit adds another 16" crash as well.)
I don't think ATV is going in quite the right direction with their brains.
How would you rate the sounds compared to a TD-17 module? Would I run into issues with the 3 trigger crash?
This sounds better than the TD17. The 3 zones on the cymbals only come into play if you plug in the extra zone, so it doesn't matter. It's compatible with all roland modules
Those dents just make it look "mean". That's a feature!
On the atv adrums artist basic can you add another Tom and another crash?
Could you do something ranking the best sounding drum modules there is? I would like to know how the td 9 is to others, I played a Yamaha dtx760 and liked it a lot better, so what are the best drum modules at each price point? Thanks
To me it's either ATV or Field Drums out of Nashville. How close is that to where you live Justin? It would be nice to get a review on the Fields edrums and real cymbals.
Any chance you did a shoot out with the ATV ad5... vs the newer xD3 (silver or black)?
... Also starting to lean towards the idea that too many editing options in a module isn't always a good thing. I recorded 5 songs with my strike and change how the kit sounds on every one... It makes it hard to pick the best sounding kit when you love the sound of 10 of them
I like the bigger size ATV 18' Ride and their 16' Crash, so I'm thinking about buying them.
I'm very happy with my Roland VH-13. Is the ATV Hi-Hat any better?
The hihat works great. For roland modules the VH13 is still better
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Ok Thanks Justin, Great Video!
Hey, tell me if i can plug and play my Yamaha DTX430K in any sound system (amplifier) ?
This would also compare with the Drum-Tec Jam series, wouldn’t you think?
I wonder if this kit would be compatible with my DTX500 module. If so this might be my next kit.
These ATV kits look amazing. Unfortunately I have never had a chance to play the drums in person. I have played the 18” ride cymbal and the 14” hihats and those were great. It is very tough competition between which one is better the Roland 18” USB pad or the ATV offering. With Roland you had to have td-50 module to be capable of using it, now it’s slightly better with Td-27 having digital inputs for half the price of the 50. ATV works with almost all manufacturers with exception of Yamaha. It will work just can not use all 3 zones. I’m torn between which kit I like more the Roland VAD 500 series or The ATV artist kit. Would love to buy this and use with my Strike module and TD-17. The ATV module sounds are good, I just prefer more sound editing options personally. The 17” EFX and China cymbal look superb as well. Disappointing no more American distribution for ATV in USA now. Can still purchase from Drum tec just costs more now and they were not cheap to begin with.
would you rather have the ad5 or the mimic module with this kit? im looking to buy for my church
I just wanted to ask if these drums only sounds when plugged in electronically or it has got acoustic sounds as well?
So the ATV or the eMERGE kit. Which one? ;-)
Hi Justin, I have a question: I'm buying the ATV aDrums Expanded kit but I'm wondering whether I should buy the aD5 module or buy it without the module and get the Roland TD17 Module instead
Mohamed Amr just curious if you got the td17 with the atv drums? I was thinking of doing the same
Have you every played or now about the carlsbro CSD 500 mesh kit?
Hey Justin. Great channel. Any idea where I can find a place to demo these drums? I'm on the east coast, Philadelphia area
did you ever find anywhere around philly?
pineishappleish nope. Took a trip to Sam Ash in NYC. Was underwhelmed by the store itself, kind of small. Also they had the ATV kit jammed in with others so it was a bit annoying to demo but I found out what I needed to know
@@bobloblaw8660 Also Philly based and very intrigued by the ATV kit. Did you end up going with it after playing it? Worth the trip to NYC?
Tommy Hipper it was worth the trip. Can't spend several thousand on a product without actually playing with it first. I was waiting until NAMM to see if they were going to roll out anything new. Glad I did. Anxiously awaiting pricing and availability for the new adrums pro expanded kit
Yeah - very interested in learning more about those as well. So I presume that your interest in the pro series means that you enjoyed your test drive on the adrums?
3:11 the cymbals bends and wobble kind of an acoustic cymbal...
Sorry, it's the old question about bell triggering. Would you say it's better than the Roland ride? Thanks for your efforts Justin!
The bell is much more sensitive, at least with the aD5 module
Did a bunch of covers with this module on my channel and a little solo, I love this module but I wanna try some mods with my vh-11 , I played the set at namm and really liked it but I'm going with acoustic converted cymbals from stealth drums
are those chockeable?
Thank you for disclosing the add on sounds that you can purchase separately... I think this is a GREAT option. The module is priced low enough at 1000 USD.. that I can afford to buy ONLY THE SOUNDS I LIKE....(with a user friendly module for dummies like me).. instead of a module like the mimic that takes a computer engineer to navigate.
What's more, is that with the atv module, I wont have to navigate through spaceship sounds (like what's on the Yamaha ead10..😁😂🤣)
I think I'm gonna have to buy one of these modules soon, and convert my acoustic kit. (But use my real A Custom cymbals)
Totally agree. The modules I've owned in the past may have 30+ kits but many of them are not the sound I'd ever really play with. I'd rather have 5 solid, great sounding kits than 35 kits with 3 that are playable.
@@Dooom480 exactly!... which is why I hate paying my cable TV bill. They brag about giving me 300 channels, but I only like about 20 of them..
I wish cable companies would learn from atv. Let the customer buy only what they want.
Agree 100% . Sold my Td-17 Module got the aD5. Best decision ever...The aD5 has great sounds. Give them a little reverb to play live. I play a TD-30 at church. Otheres will disagree, but I like the sounds in the aD5 better. Not as many, and I can not modify, but I only want a few sets. 5 great sets is 4 more than a DW collector acoustic set.
@@franklentz4727 I couldn't get the money for the ad5, so l just got the drummit3 from 2box. Havent tried it yet because I dont have any triggers yet..
@@JasonWelchMusic Great choice also. I was considering both. Found a great deal on a aD5 for $600. So there is the fact I got super lucky. Sold TD-17 and upgrade only cost me around $150...
I have the ATV-EXS 5 kit, and Im having huge problem with doublebass-triggering. I tried to reset the module, doesnt help. Tried also to change sensitivity but nope, still no help. :/ This is so sad
So this Snare pad solved the problem of the hotspot issues?
yes
Thanks for the answer, I was in doubt between a 12-inch Roland Pad or a 14-inch Drum-Tec Pro for use with my Pearl Mimic Pro module. I'm going to buy the ATV Snare now!
I do like this kit, but I still have not seen the E-Kit that I am looking for that is the whole package and reasonably priced. I stay with acoustic until then.
All e-drums are overpriced.
Gotta respect the man trying to get drumtek views. No sarcasm intended, I think it's good he's getting love from a sponser
I’m not sponsored.
awww man, we gotta get your sponsored bro. You provide some great information.
No it's cool man! I actually don't want to be sponsored by a drum company because that would be a conflict of interest :) I'd only be allowed to say the nice things about the drum-sets, and not point out any flaws. One day I hope to get sponsors from non-drum companies to help me do this channel full time :)
I think they should do it in an oyster wrap. Bebop sizes need a bebop look.
That would be a cool look
Hey,
Does any one know if ATV aDrums is compatible also with the Pearl R.E.D.box module?
What if you used the Pearl Mimic with this kit. Would the piece of wood still give you a side stick trigger?
Ya, I am not an owner but I would buy the 18” ATV If things work out.
Does Kat KT4 module work with this
What decent drum module would you buy separately for this kit
Depends on how much you want to spend. The TD17, Strike, TD30, and Mimic are all good options
65 Drums hey thanks for replying I was hoping to maybe spend around 800-1000 maybe not to blow up a budget for one
which would you choose out of those?
why can't i find these drums anywhere?
Called it
You use Vic Firth sticks. Much respect.
It's my go to brand right now :)
65 Drums by the way, today is my birthday!!!!
Hey happy birthday !
Electric eye!
I heard from one other review that the black shells are painted and the wood is birch, not a black wrap so higher quality for sure.
Yes I believe so :)
No simple 4 on the floor to listen to the sounds.
There are actually 12
kits on the module
Originally there were 5, thanks for the update :)
At $4200 Pearl should include a second crash cymbal.
The set is not wraped ,its painted with pianipaint!
Hey Justin
Hey Jacob
Pretty sure that EA was behind this drum module software with all the micro transactions
The module is pay to win
that microtransaction crap is enough to stay away
5 kits damn terrible value