Did I hear a little Take Five around 2:25?? Come on John, no cliches now mate. Great musicians able to take absolutely nothing and create a sonic storm both beautiful and terrible.
I can barely play even rudimentary chords on a guitar (I can play bass pretty well though), but I'm attempting to grow more efficient in playing guitar texturally. Getting into stuff like free improvisation and no wave positively corrupted me you can say. I learned that I can still be amazing at an instrument. Just not in the traditional sense.
@@iamdamosuzuki_ i dont mind what you or anyone do in order to play music (obviously), but i believe to be able to demolish you need to learn how to construct first. in this video, these people, i am quite sure they come from the roots i mentioned. but if it works for you, it works. for sure. cheers.
@@fuphanwang9134 It completely depends on what you're playing. I mentioned No Wave in my previous comment. Most of those musicians were largely incapable of playing conventional music, but what they were good at was producing unique sounds with their instruments that most musicians wouldn't think to try out. That's largely what I do on guitar. Bass is still my primary instrument and I am a much better bass player than guitar, but I still like exploring to find unusual sounds that you can get on the bass as well. I of course like playing structured music too but I'm an improvisational player by nature. I usually come up with bass and guitar parts by just messing around for an hour or so. I know for these guys it's different because they're incredibly skilled jazz and rock musicians. I'm mostly an experimental punk musician and I largely lack technical skill beyond being able to play pretty well rhythmically (I have a pretty severe deficit when it comes to complex melodies even on bass so I usually stick to repetitious, yet standout melodies on the bass). I never really bothered with lessons and have been more interested in Learning instruments my own way.
@@iamdamosuzuki_ as i said, no issues with that. its your way man. i just wanted to mention what their way was , not necessarily conflicting with yours. cheers again.
I get that this stuff isn't for everybody, but it's an unprecedented form of musical vocabulary. It's totally unrestrained artistic expression. Action music if you will.
Still appreciated
BEAUTIFUL
This was the time, when I felt in love with a tune !
Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful! Couldn't have said anything better myself!
There's a reason Fred Frith is my favorite guitarist.
Excellent ! beaucoup de recherche ...
I was at one of these show. Saw a lot of Frith ensembles at that great space.
yes, some chords from Take Five...but imbedded ;-)
awesome, thanks for the upload!
Did I hear a little Take Five around 2:25?? Come on John, no cliches now mate. Great musicians able to take absolutely nothing and create a sonic storm both beautiful and terrible.
Actually he was quoting Ornette... but either way, so what? Both acceptable, along with all the nice noise.
I actually really enjoy when an artist juxtaposes more melodic playing and themes with chaos. Ground-Zero did that quite well.
Quand deux fous se rencontrent qu'est-ce qu'ils se racontent ?
Not quite my tempo
If you do not want to be a virtuoso; get into this....you will not regret it. I did it and it worked...
I can barely play even rudimentary chords on a guitar (I can play bass pretty well though), but I'm attempting to grow more efficient in playing guitar texturally. Getting into stuff like free improvisation and no wave positively corrupted me you can say. I learned that I can still be amazing at an instrument. Just not in the traditional sense.
@@iamdamosuzuki_ i dont mind what you or anyone do in order to play music (obviously), but i believe to be able to demolish you need to learn how to construct first. in this video, these people, i am quite sure they come from the roots i mentioned. but if it works for you, it works. for sure. cheers.
@@fuphanwang9134 It completely depends on what you're playing. I mentioned No Wave in my previous comment. Most of those musicians were largely incapable of playing conventional music, but what they were good at was producing unique sounds with their instruments that most musicians wouldn't think to try out. That's largely what I do on guitar. Bass is still my primary instrument and I am a much better bass player than guitar, but I still like exploring to find unusual sounds that you can get on the bass as well. I of course like playing structured music too but I'm an improvisational player by nature. I usually come up with bass and guitar parts by just messing around for an hour or so. I know for these guys it's different because they're incredibly skilled jazz and rock musicians. I'm mostly an experimental punk musician and I largely lack technical skill beyond being able to play pretty well rhythmically (I have a pretty severe deficit when it comes to complex melodies even on bass so I usually stick to repetitious, yet standout melodies on the bass). I never really bothered with lessons and have been more interested in Learning instruments my own way.
@@iamdamosuzuki_ as i said, no issues with that. its your way man. i just wanted to mention what their way was , not necessarily conflicting with yours. cheers again.
Zorn and Frith are accomplished players. The improv stuff is just a language of sorts but listen to some Naked City and they can really play
I guess I just don’t get it. Sounds like noise to me, shrug
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I thought this music was brilliant as a teenager, but looking back it doesn't seem all that creative
Why?
@@-RandomBiz- why
@@michael33145 That's what I said
I get that this stuff isn't for everybody, but it's an unprecedented form of musical vocabulary. It's totally unrestrained artistic expression. Action music if you will.
@@iamdamosuzuki_ Not unprecedented at all. But that's exactly why its great.