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  • @JAlucard77
    @JAlucard77 Рік тому +796

    You left out so many important things about the ship. Like the sinking of the drydock it was in or the fact a falling crane punched a giant whole in the flight deck. Oh and cant forget the boiler problems or the horrible fuel issues , the that its engines have broken down so many times it hard to keep track and that's why it has to be accompanied every where it goes by the tugboat. Hardly any of the bathrooms work. No heat or AC for the crew. The water filtration system for making fresh water is ALWAYS BROKEN. I COULD GO ON BUT I THINK I MADE MY POINT.

    • @Ligma-Balls-69
      @Ligma-Balls-69 Рік тому +40

      Most of the toilets do not flush as well.

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Рік тому +93

      @@Ligma-Balls-69 you don't need a bathroom if you have no food or drinking water comrade!

    • @stomp4423
      @stomp4423 Рік тому +22

      I eagerly await your Dark Seas video, since this one is lacking all your vital info. Should be an epic tale.

    • @yohanessugiarto8620
      @yohanessugiarto8620 Рік тому +7

      Precise explanation.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +59

      The tug boats are the real heroes of the Russian Federation navy.

  • @jpx1508
    @jpx1508 Рік тому +484

    Seem to be some missing items from the ship's lore:
    Assignment to the Kuznetsov is considered a punishment akin to a prison sentence, colloquially known as being "Kuznetsov'ed".
    During the last deployment to Syria the ship was reduced to one working bathroom for the entire crew... and a perpetual 2-hr 3-hr line for the bathroom..
    During the last deployment the heat and air conditioning failed to function..
    For a portion of the deployment the ship ran on only one boiler..
    After the aircraft was lost (which is mentioned) all aircraft were transferred off the carrier to land, finished the deployment from land, and flew home without the carrier..
    After the Syrian deployment, the ship's floating dock sank (which is mentioned) taking Kuznetsov with the sinking dock and dropping a heavy (70 ton) shipyard crane though Kuznetsov's flight deck... causing major structural damage... and remains un-repaired..
    Since the dock/crane incident, Kuznetsov has also had a major fire which gutted the central portion of the ship... and remains un-repaired..
    While Putin insists the ship will be brought back to seaworthy status, there are no funds in the budget for the repair... and no scheduled repair..
    The Kuznetsov crew has now essentially been released to other duties.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +69

      Even when Russian ships go in for "repairs" most the broken stuff isn't actually fixed, and the money all disappears.

    • @ursamajor7468
      @ursamajor7468 Рік тому +68

      QUALITY Russian ship. No worries, propaganda fix all.

    • @justsoicanfingcomment5814
      @justsoicanfingcomment5814 Рік тому +28

      You know what that point they might as well just cut a bunch of holes in the under side deck plating for the flight deck and have the crew just shit straight down to the ocean below.

    • @DisapprovingPigeon
      @DisapprovingPigeon Рік тому +51

      Basically the Russians are treating their aircraft carrier like the UK is currently treating the NHS; by which I mean its constantly held up as a symbol of pride for the nation, but its been left to rot in spite of the governments constant empty claims of it being possibly maybe brought back to operational status at some point in the far off future.

    • @christineshotton824
      @christineshotton824 Рік тому +39

      With the ever increasing cost of the Ukraine war, it is extremely unlikely the repairs will ever be performed.

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii Рік тому +64

    The most impressive thing about the Admiral Kuznetsov is that it has been refitted with special nets designed to land T-72 turrets.

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor60 Рік тому +141

    I remember when the ship's evaporator broke down while in the Med and the USS America Battle Group Commander sent parts and technicians to them to repair their evaporator. I was on USS Whidbey Island LSD 41 on my first Mediterranean deployment August 1995-February 1996

    • @shengyi1701
      @shengyi1701 Рік тому +24

      Ward Carroll’s video also mentioned this. Soviet crews who visited the USS America in her last year of service were awed by how well maintained the America was

    • @paulabrannan1111
      @paulabrannan1111 Рік тому +11

      Why help them. Let them Drink sea water

    • @dritzzdarkwood4727
      @dritzzdarkwood4727 Рік тому +53

      @@paulabrannan1111
      This is why you're not in charge of our diplomacy.

    • @danstromness5165
      @danstromness5165 Рік тому +10

      My daughter got so excited when she found out that her husband got orders to the Whidbey Island, cross-decking from the Anzio which was being laid-up.
      She was thinking of that beautiful sea-horse looking island in the Puget Sound of WA, studded with deep forests of evergreens. She spent her childhood there, when I was stationed at NASWI. We all loved it.
      Her sails quickly deflated when she found out that they were stuck in Norfolk for another year. The USS WI was always broken down (2017-2019), for one reason or another. He didn't get much time at sea on her.

    • @binaway
      @binaway Рік тому +2

      yes for fire one and then another yes for the second fire.

  • @ScienceChap
    @ScienceChap Рік тому +155

    The first ship ever to be powered by burning old tyres.

  • @krusader85
    @krusader85 Рік тому +102

    Glorious tactical tug boat from the Russian federation

    • @twotrackjack2260
      @twotrackjack2260 Рік тому +17

      'External propulsion unit' 😄

    • @alan-
      @alan- Рік тому +10

      So is the tug boat their Navy flagship? Which one does the admiral ride on? lols...

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +8

      ​@@alan- don't you dare insult the great tug boat of the federation 😊

    • @mrhoneycutter
      @mrhoneycutter Рік тому +4

      Honestly that tugboat worked harder than any Russian in history.

    • @mtn.homeforge351
      @mtn.homeforge351 7 місяців тому

      I just had to make that an even 100 likes@

  • @CShivery
    @CShivery Рік тому +121

    Ward Carroll has a really good video on the ship. It was given four different names. Renaming a ship once is bad luck in the Navy, nevermind doing it four times.

    • @BiGDuke6Actual
      @BiGDuke6Actual Рік тому +13

      Whatever luck that ship may have incurred - like Putin's 'special operation', it's entirely of their own making... Doom on them, one and all.

    • @Ottofalcon
      @Ottofalcon Рік тому +12

      Ward Caroll’s video on this carrier is a lot more accurate than this video.

    • @tgmccoy1556
      @tgmccoy1556 Рік тому +4

      @@Ottofalcon Ward speaks as a Naval Airman, (WSO) he made a living flying off Carriers. He knows.

    • @yohanessugiarto8620
      @yohanessugiarto8620 Рік тому +5

      Ward also creates other excellent video in his channel.

    • @ApeRSV4
      @ApeRSV4 Рік тому +11

      Calling it a Navy is quite the stretch, more like The Russian Boating Academy.

  • @dx1450
    @dx1450 Рік тому +17

    On thing which wasn't mentioned... the reason the ship produces so much smoke from its stack (much more these days than what's shown in the video) is because the power plant is worn out, probably why they're replacing them in dry dock. The reason for this is because the Russians have little infrastructure to support the ship while docked. Where the American carriers shut down their reactors while in port because they get connected to shore power, the Russians don't have this luxury so the power plant had to keep running to supply electricity even while docked.

    • @jasoncarswell7458
      @jasoncarswell7458 Рік тому +2

      I heard that they're making some changes to the fuel system. It will save money and cut down on mazut smoke at the same time.
      Effective immediately, half the fuel will be mazut, the other half will be 1000 ruble notes.

  • @alexfortin7209
    @alexfortin7209 Рік тому +24

    “A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into.”
    More seriously, ships and airplanes are complex, difficult to build, expensive to buy and even more expensive to operate and maintain.

  • @abikeanditsboy3449
    @abikeanditsboy3449 Рік тому +147

    On 30 October 2018, the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov was damaged when the dry dock PD-50 suddenly sank under it causing one of the dock's 70-ton cranes to crash onto the ship's flight deck.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +12

      That was an oopsy

    • @bjo889
      @bjo889 Рік тому +14

      That was according to plan

    • @richardm3023
      @richardm3023 Рік тому +14

      I hope they understand the gravity of what happened.

    • @odincamus3197
      @odincamus3197 Рік тому +7

      @@richardm3023 take this like and get out

    • @richardm3023
      @richardm3023 Рік тому +5

      @@odincamus3197 I'm outta here!

  • @kdrapertrucker
    @kdrapertrucker Рік тому +10

    The reason they call it a heavy aircraft carrying cruiser is because it is illegal for aircraft carriers to transit the Bospherous straits meaning it would have been stuck in the Black sea.

    • @gengis01
      @gengis01 Місяць тому

      That's the technical reason but once they passed the Bospherous, the label was kept because it is a carrier. It is not a modern heavy attack air craft carrier. Only the US has those. We got 11. And each comes with an entire battle group of cruisers, frigates, subs and aircraft. US has many, many "carriers" that are the equivalent of what Ruskies and Chinese have. We don't bother counting those.

  • @joostprins3381
    @joostprins3381 Рік тому +19

    We in the Netherlands had a aircraft carrier for some time, we bought it from the UK. It was a notorious black hole money pit and was more in repair then it was on sea. We sold it to Argentina and are still relieved it’s gone.

    • @canerguener8664
      @canerguener8664 Рік тому +1

      What was the purpose?

    • @basosz
      @basosz Рік тому +2

      @@canerguener8664 back then we still had a couple of colonies around the world so it wasn't a terrible idea to have a floating airfield at the ready. After decolonization that need kinda went away. It was still used for ASW, but that didn't last very long.

    • @canerguener8664
      @canerguener8664 Рік тому

      @@basosz Right. Thanks.

  • @geordiegeorge9041
    @geordiegeorge9041 Рік тому +10

    That thing is a bag of nails, like most ships in the Russian navy. Two ex work mates of mine served in the Soviet navy, they described their ships as terrifying rust buckets.

  • @ohyeahwhat5387
    @ohyeahwhat5387 Рік тому +91

    First rule of the sea. Never rename a ship. It's bad luck.

    • @DarthBaras13
      @DarthBaras13 Рік тому +5

      Unless their names are Yorktown, Enterprise, or Hornet.

    • @D.M.S.
      @D.M.S. Рік тому +7

      Actually, that happens quite a lot without incidents.

    • @johnfalstaff2270
      @johnfalstaff2270 Рік тому

      Do you remember m/s Stockholm which sank Andrea Doria? Check on Google how many times Stockholm changed names and is today the eldest passenger ship.

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ Рік тому +1

      The only "acceptable" times to change a ship's name is when it changes owners (ie. China buys a Russian ship, they're obviously not going to keep the Russian name and change it to Chinese.) Otherwise, just don't.

    • @mdtransmissionspecialties
      @mdtransmissionspecialties Рік тому

      That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life. Guess you haven’t seen the US navy?

  • @edwardlees4585
    @edwardlees4585 Рік тому +79

    I remember watching old WW2 films on a Sunday afternoon as a child. The destroyer captain always seemed to ask the engine room to 'make smoke'. I assume Soviet spies passed details of this technique back to their naval engineers but something got lost in the transmission and this ship didn't just have it as an option!

    • @Harte74
      @Harte74 Рік тому +7

      Great one.. 😆🤣
      And yeah, you're right. That ship puts out a LOT of black smoke.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker Рік тому +3

      Destroyers and destroyer escorts had smoke generators and could over fuel the boilers to make smoke screens for the ships they were escorting, the most famous example was the Battle of Samar.

    • @iandaniels8386
      @iandaniels8386 Рік тому +1

      coal engines make smoke

    • @robertsettle2590
      @robertsettle2590 Рік тому

      @@iandaniels8386 so do diesel engines MATE!!!! Bet you didn't even know that information SENIOR BELLEND!!!

    • @williamfrazier4797
      @williamfrazier4797 Рік тому

      😢 ❤

  • @BaronEvola123
    @BaronEvola123 Рік тому +43

    Ward Carroll had me in stitches.
    I couldn't believe it. "A fire was caused by a pile of oily rags."
    That's not even like military doctrine. I learned not to pile up oily rags next to paint cans by age 7 by reading the back of a paint can.

    • @Shaun_Jones
      @Shaun_Jones Рік тому +8

      It gets better, the ignition source of the fire was a welder. Yes, they were actually welding right next to a pile of oily rags and paint. There’s a reason why this ship is occasionally known as the Admiral Fire Hazard.

    • @kauphaart0
      @kauphaart0 Рік тому +5

      I know, right? It's almost as bad as what happened to the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6).

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому +10

      @@Shaun_Jones Russian safety, Russian quality control, Russian workmanship.
      The flagship of the Russian navy, ladies and gentlemen!

    • @tamdaradei
      @tamdaradei Рік тому +1

      @@recoil53 true :D

  • @DarthBaras13
    @DarthBaras13 Рік тому +15

    I feel like if Ukraine decided to attack and successfully destroy Admiral Kuznetsov, Russia would obviously condemn Ukraine while muttering "Phew, I'm glad that eyesore is gone".

    • @garyhooper1820
      @garyhooper1820 Рік тому

      I bet Ukraine held it back to taunt them , and laughed like hell when they took off with it , minus most of the crew who knew it wasn't going very far .

  • @MrBruinman86
    @MrBruinman86 Рік тому +48

    Didn't this carrier suffer a fire at some point? Secondly, I recall hearing the heat onboard (when not on fire) is limited and sailors are often quite cold.

    • @Del_S
      @Del_S Рік тому +11

      It's had at least two minor fires and one serious one. Combined with an apparently sloppy maintenance history and unreliable propulsion, it's one of the best carriers in the NATO fleet....

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Рік тому +3

      @@Del_S "in the NATO fleet"? Wut

    • @Del_S
      @Del_S Рік тому +16

      @@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 It's of more use to NATO than it is to Russia.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +8

      The fires help with the freezing cold ship conditions comrade.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому +5

      At least half the plumbing does not work, there is no heating or air conditioning.

  • @philliplarson2155
    @philliplarson2155 Рік тому +6

    That thing would be an artificial reef on the first day of a conflict with the
    US

  • @promiscuouscrab4040
    @promiscuouscrab4040 Рік тому +23

    Soviets: *build something expensive*
    Also Soviets: *immediately let it rust and fall apart*

    • @glennrynhoud9424
      @glennrynhoud9424 Рік тому +1

      No money, enough to keep stealing but not for repairs.

    • @edwinkamunge
      @edwinkamunge Рік тому

      ​@@glennrynhoud9424😂😅

  • @uio890138
    @uio890138 Рік тому +6

    It now comes complete with a matching set of ocean-going tugs to tow it everywhere.

  • @geraint8989
    @geraint8989 Рік тому +4

    An aircraft carrier that can neither move under its own power nor carry aircraft is quite an asset - lucky for Ukraine that it was stolen. They spent the money instead on developing the weapons that caused Moskva to exist at a significantly sub-optimal depth.

  • @Harrington2323
    @Harrington2323 Рік тому +31

    Interesting is that the Admiral Kuznetsov is not the only Kiev-class aircraft carrier. The flagship of the Indian Navy the INS Vikramaditya and the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning are also more or less Kiev-classes. The funniest thing is that this two ships are functioning well, definetly better then the russian ship. The "Allmighty Russian Empire" is not capable to operate one aircraft carrier. But that not an exceptional case. The guided missile cruiser Moskva for example had dozends of broken systems a lot of them vital electronic systems for the ships defense. We all know the end of the story.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 Рік тому +1

      Well there were made 4 Kiev Class aircraft carriers actually certain level of completion one finished aka Kuznetsov 3 sold to china from ukraine and 1 sold to india

    • @Harrington2323
      @Harrington2323 Рік тому

      @@no-nonseplayer6612 yes and no. When Wiki is right there were 4 x Projekt 1143 (kiev-class) the kiev, minsk, noworossijsk and Baku. The Baku became the Indian flagship. Then there were 2 x 1143.5 (kusnezow-class) the First is the russian kusnezow and the second one became the Liaoning. Interesting is that two of them are attractions in China I think the kiev and Minsk, the other one was recycled.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 Рік тому +1

      @@Harrington2323 but arent Chinese planning to Finnish those two special atractions to Liaoning class ships

    • @Harrington2323
      @Harrington2323 Рік тому

      @@no-nonseplayer6612 I don't think so. They build their own ones. The First is ready, second one is in final Phase and the third is "under development". They bought the HMS Melbourne and the three "Kievs" to develop their abilities. No they have the institutional knowledge to build to their own specifications.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 Рік тому +1

      @@Harrington2323 well there IS where My confusion comes didn't India try to byu them at some point ??

  • @receiving9067
    @receiving9067 Рік тому +2

    Man, this documentary was really gentle on this ship.

  • @goomba008
    @goomba008 Рік тому +3

    Can't wait for the word "russian" to enter the vernacular as "inept, incompetent" for a person and "brittle, prone to failure, cheap or fake" for an object. They've earned it over the last 3 decades

  • @rossmunro6698
    @rossmunro6698 Рік тому +2

    7:30 anyone know what music this is?

  • @davidrobertson5700
    @davidrobertson5700 Рік тому +17

    Another Russian boat ready to be on special underwater operations

  • @tamdaradei
    @tamdaradei Рік тому +6

    you forgot to mention that the aircraft carrier ship according to propaganda was supposed to have dozens of planes, but in fact only 4 were operational, the Russians landed these MIGs, repainted them with new numbers and took off again. This story has long been known.

  • @garykubodera9528
    @garykubodera9528 Рік тому +19

    The sad fact is that the Russian Federation does not have the docking facility and/or refuses to maintain it and is now a joke in navel circles..

    • @burndqr
      @burndqr Рік тому +1

      After the floating dry doc sank they built a dry doc to repair the ship

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Рік тому +4

      @@burndqr no repairs have been made to date, and the crew was reassigned.

    • @burndqr
      @burndqr Рік тому +1

      @@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 just a basic look on Wikipedia shows work is still happening, it's slow but it's happening

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 Рік тому +4

      @@burndqr just like all those repairs "happened" on Moskva. or the last time Kutz was "repaired" but still can't leave port without a tug.

    • @burndqr
      @burndqr Рік тому

      @@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 so are you saying repairs are or aren't happing?

  • @bernardedwards8461
    @bernardedwards8461 Рік тому +6

    When operational, the Kuznetsov is accompanied by an escort of 5 or six small vessels, so does not have to rely entirely on its own weapons for defence.

    • @willisix2554
      @willisix2554 Рік тому +7

      You forgot rge most important one, THE TUG BOAT

    • @gengis01
      @gengis01 Місяць тому

      A carrier is an offensive weapon, not defensive. A US aircraft carrier has minimal defense capability because it's primary defense is F/A-18s sinking the threat 500 miles away from the carrier. If the carrier has to fire its defensive systems, they already lost the battle.

  • @donkeysunited
    @donkeysunited Рік тому +9

    Based on the video title I was hoping the video would go through its various armaments (it partially did) and why it is smoking so much (no mention).

  • @williamwiese9963
    @williamwiese9963 Рік тому +8

    You could literally track the smoke trail from space, nothing sneaky about that rust bucket.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +1

      Not like you can hide any carrier group now

    • @gilbertmoyes2918
      @gilbertmoyes2918 Рік тому

      You don't need a satellite to track it, just a good smoke detector.

    • @gengis01
      @gengis01 Місяць тому

      @@Darkpara1 If there was a shooting war, you would not be able to track US carrier groups. They'd disable the GPS system, shoot down enemy satellites. No recon aircraft would get within 500 miles of a carrier group. Maybe in 10 years, there'll be advanced drones that could take out a carrier but as of today, the US carrier battle group cannot be stopped by any other country on Earth. And the US can deploy probably 7 at any given time. 90% of the planet is within striking distance of a carrier based attack aircraft.

  • @JAlucard77
    @JAlucard77 Рік тому +53

    Sad to say that a tugboat is the MOST IMPORTANT VESSEL IN THE RUSSIAN NAVY...LMFAO 😂😂😂

    • @Xeno7771
      @Xeno7771 Рік тому +3

      Keep feeding yourself that lie if that makes you sleep better.

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus Рік тому +9

      @@Xeno7771 If the Moskva had a tugboat, they wouldn't have lost it ;)

    • @pizann350
      @pizann350 Рік тому +3

      @@Xeno7771 😂

    • @walkaz
      @walkaz Рік тому

      Just remember you’ve spent over 100bn so far to get out fought by this tug boat army

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus Рік тому +3

      @@walkaz out fought? NATO hasn't even hit the field yet. We spent a mere $100bn to have Ukraine *alone* stop Russia dead in its tracks. Big bad bear can't even handle a farmer with a javelin, let alone a real army lol

  • @ricardoantonio5085
    @ricardoantonio5085 Рік тому +4

    Notice that during launch and landing the deck is entirely clear of personnel, unlike the bee hive activity of US carriers. Nothing to do topside, just the pilot and radio operator.

    • @MS-wz9jm
      @MS-wz9jm Рік тому

      They do have a completely different purpose though. Soviet carriers are just there for fleet protection, nothing more. In the US it has a different role. Carriers are interesting and likely ships of the past due to hypersonic and extremely long range threats, just big targets.

    • @jeffbeck8993
      @jeffbeck8993 Рік тому

      @@MS-wz9jm Meh, carrier being obsolete is regurgitated casually by many these days. Carriers aren't bullet proof and never have been. They will be with us for a long time to come.

    • @gengis01
      @gengis01 Місяць тому

      Operating an aircraft carrier is more than just building one. You need operational experience. US has built up the most experience air crew at sea. A carrier deck is a dangerous place. Jet exhaust, propellers whirling everywhere. Explosives, fuel. Heavy machinery. Pitching deck, high winds. If you don't know what you're doing, you will suffer casualties. US carrier deck may seem chaotic but everyone knows what they are doing and where they are going. Nobody gets chopped up by a propeller blade because the propeller is 2 feet past exactly where the sailors know not to go. Russian decks are clear because they don't have the experience nor the training budget -if their sailors are on deck during operations, they are walking right behind jets, right into helicoptor rotors, they are tripping on fuel lines, dropping bombs. That's why their decks are clear.

    • @ricardoantonio5085
      @ricardoantonio5085 Місяць тому

      @gengis01 You got it. Agree totally.

  • @johnmorgan4123
    @johnmorgan4123 Рік тому +4

    Look at 8:27, folks.
    That's the captain on the flight deck.
    Fred Flintstonenovov.

  • @chriswhite3692
    @chriswhite3692 Рік тому +1

    En lieu of oil, are crashed jet aircraft a viable fuel source for the boilers?

  • @jaredharris1970
    @jaredharris1970 Рік тому +4

    That must have a huge heat signature for heat seeking weapons

  • @kenleung506
    @kenleung506 Рік тому +2

    it is so sad that both Russian / Ukrainian are from the same ancestor the recent fallout created a lot of friction --- in fighting so on and so forth sad to see brother killing brothers

  • @ianmuir3640
    @ianmuir3640 Рік тому +3

    When it sailed up the English Channel you could follow it from France and England just watching the smoke plume

  • @Todd.P
    @Todd.P Рік тому +1

    It is a shame this sorry vessel is named after such a noble admiral as Kuznetsov. He deserved better.

  • @stevea2909
    @stevea2909 Рік тому +3

    I love the tacky casino chairs (10:23 and before) the Sailors sit in, were they on Weekly Special @ "Rusi Ralph's Furniture & Public Bath Emporium"?

  • @josephsausen309
    @josephsausen309 Рік тому +1

    When the Soviet/Russian space station fell out of earth orbit in the early 2000's, a local (Minneapolis) newspaper columnist remarked that we didn't know, until then, that "Mir" was Russian for "jalopy". Apparently, not much has changed...

  • @imrehorvat3208
    @imrehorvat3208 Рік тому +3

    The longest aircraft carrier, 1000 feet of sheet metal + 10000 feet of smoke

  • @twiz148
    @twiz148 Рік тому +5

    I feel like this is one those situations where you try and make something do everything and it winds up not being overly good at doing anything...

    • @Zeknif1
      @Zeknif1 Рік тому

      It’s more that the Russian Federation lacked the facilities and infrastructure necessary to keep a warship of this size and complexity in any sort of operational condition. The inspection report on the Moskva that got leaked shortly after it’s sinking painted a horrendous picture of Russian Naval maintenance practices… only one of its six CIWS turrets even worked, couldn’t have ship communications and radar active at the same time, and both its AA missile systems were out of action. Fire extinguishers and other fire fighting equipment were kept under lock and key if not missing entirely, and bulkhead doors weren’t watertight… or in some cases entirely missing.
      On paper, the Moskva should have been a superb air defense platform with a second role as a surface to surface combatant. But between corruption, poor doctrine and lacking sufficient facilities, even a single missile near the waterline would have both overwhelmed it’s actually functioning AA systems and deal enough damage to sink the vessel.

    • @bryanshoemaker6120
      @bryanshoemaker6120 Рік тому

      Just like the f-35. Damn thing is still try to kill its Pilots after all this time and money.

    • @bryanshoemaker6120
      @bryanshoemaker6120 Рік тому

      ​@@Zeknif1 Russia's a dump, we all know that. But that ship really is a perfect example of trying to do everything but yet not being able to do anything good.

  • @alexbuckle1085
    @alexbuckle1085 Рік тому +2

    "let's build an aircraft carrier to support stealthy submarines with the dirtiest least efficient fuel we can get our hands on"

    • @techtical7079
      @techtical7079 Рік тому +1

      It's Russian... What did you expect them to be intelligent or even somewhat not corrupt?

  • @SpaceMonkeyBoi
    @SpaceMonkeyBoi Рік тому +5

    I don't think the vessel itself is a failure. India has the exact type of carrier, and takes very good care of it. That thing even has a bakery on it.

    • @johnfalstaff2270
      @johnfalstaff2270 Рік тому +2

      The system to remove rats and cockroaches should be there too. Does not mean they have it.

    • @ralphm6901
      @ralphm6901 Рік тому +7

      During the war in Ukraine, we heard numerous stories about corruption at all levels of the Russian government. Some amount of money would be allocated to a project, and at every level in the chain of command, a few percent gets siphoned off into someone's pockets. The money that's left is nowhere near enough to actually complete the project, so everyone lies about it.
      If India doesn't have the same level of corruption, they could well be maintaining the same type of carrier in good condition. It's not necessarily the design of the ship that's the problem.

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 Рік тому

      ​@@ralphm6901 Ukraine is also plagued by a corrupt government... top to bottom.
      Russia vs Ukraine... two thug governments fighting at the expense of their civilians.

    • @gengis01
      @gengis01 Місяць тому

      My God! They have a bakery! Let's surrender. Wait a minute. Our carriers have bakeries too. And onboard dentists. They have a movie theatre. Our carriers have multiple dining facilities including one open 24 hours a day -just like a cruise ship! What's more, our carriers have pilots that can take off and land at night and during a storm. They can take off a carrier with max bomb loads. I like to see their carriers do that.

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 Рік тому +2

    Ah yes, an aviation cruiser that can neither carry out air missions nor, in fact, cruise.

  • @southtexasprepper1837
    @southtexasprepper1837 Рік тому +3

    This "Heavy Aircraft-Carrying Cruiser" seems to be more of a Military Liability than a Military Asset. There's been a number of Videos that this Ship is a Floating Accident just waiting to happen.

  • @christopherhill4438
    @christopherhill4438 Рік тому +2

    Perhaps the Kusnetsov is a decoy and we really need to watch out for the tug!

  • @facelikedog
    @facelikedog Рік тому +5

    The Chinese aircraft carrier Shandong is based on this ship. They seem to have worked some bugs out. Only 25 fixed wing aircraft but plenty of missiles and helos.

    • @Harte74
      @Harte74 Рік тому +7

      Pretty much all chinese stuff is based on others stuff. They seem unable to invent something brand new.

    • @NightPhoenix.Y
      @NightPhoenix.Y Рік тому

      The 25 fixed wing aircraft is more or less due to how massive Chinese jets are, if they had migs it'll be a different story

    • @MuffHam
      @MuffHam Рік тому +1

      @@Harte74 Not true. Chinas third carrier is entirely Chinese designed and built. It's a super carrier abit smaller than the latest American one.

  • @michaelogden5958
    @michaelogden5958 Рік тому +1

    There is also a rumor that she was tied to a dock for a long time. The dock had no shore power, so some of the boilers had to be kept running 24X7. By the time they decided to move her, the boilers were all shot/in poor repair so that boiler replacement was also necessary in the next round of "improvements".

  • @tf330129
    @tf330129 Рік тому +9

    They say it is bad luck to rename a ship, and she was renamed 3 times. Guess it is true after all given her service so far.

    • @christineshotton824
      @christineshotton824 Рік тому +2

      Just ask the crew of the Moskva (ex-Slava). They'll be able to confirm it's bad luck indeed.
      I still find it interesting that the safety measures adopted for the Black Sea Fleet after the "accidental fire" on Moskva that had nothing whatsoever to do with Ukrainian anti-ship missiles, was to move the rest of the fleet out of range of Ukrainian anti-ship missiles.

    • @woodybrison
      @woodybrison Рік тому

      A small ship has many parts, any one of which can fail disastrously. A ship the size o' this one... low probability of any successful mission unless there's a large competent navy dedicated to making it work. Then, in a communist state, the government is a bunch of thugs whose mission in life is to eat or destroy everything good. (The rhetoric about a worker's paradise is just camoflage) So when a govt. like that tries to build a ship like this, it's nothing but nightmares in real life. Luck has nothing to do with it, you can rename it a hundred times or give it no name at all, still the same result

    • @chevyjohnson7457
      @chevyjohnson7457 Рік тому

      Superstition, its just not maintained

  • @napster7825
    @napster7825 Рік тому +1

    "Plan to use her for another 10 to 15 years." Now, is that 10 to 15 consecutive years? Or would it be, and I think this is more likely, sail her for 3 or 4 years, then repairs for 2 to 4 years, then sail for 5 years, then dry dock for 5 years, fire, more repairs, sail for 10 months and then under tow for 41 days back to dry dock? You get the picture.

  • @marcellino1956
    @marcellino1956 Рік тому +6

    When i sailed in the Med the Russian fleet seemed like they were made up more of Fishing trawlers.......antennas galore so they must have had great comm.

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 Рік тому +1

      Can you say information overload?

    • @jeffbeck8993
      @jeffbeck8993 Рік тому +2

      Got to see quite a few Soviet warships and aircraft in the late 1980s on the USS Midway out of Yokosuka, always with our F-18s in escort positions. Those Soviet trawlers bristling with antennas were often trailing fairly close in behind us picking up and rummaging through our (dry) trash. Those poor bastards had a hell of a time in heavy seas though. Sometimes they'd pull up abreast of us on a nicer day and wave, and we'd wave back.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 Рік тому +1

      Listening to yours

  • @scotshabalam2432
    @scotshabalam2432 Рік тому +1

    Is it good design to put a ski jump on the front? It seems like the host ship would give more force to the launched fighter if it were moving parallel to the launch direction.

  • @VisibilityFoggy
    @VisibilityFoggy Рік тому +10

    It will be a miracle if this thing ever sails again in anything resembling a combat deployment. The Indians and Chinese figured out these carriers, but Russia never did. Should've left it in the capable hands of Ukraine.

  • @JoeC-bz2ep
    @JoeC-bz2ep Рік тому +2

    Do they have that thing fired with coal? Got the gulag prisoners shoveling coal.

  • @chefsanders9151
    @chefsanders9151 Рік тому +5

    russian engineering and construction at its finest

  • @iainw5081
    @iainw5081 Рік тому +1

    It's not really a pure aircraft carrier. After the refit it will have a large missile inventory. Probably won't smoke as i understand it will have new engines.

  • @markhoffman9655
    @markhoffman9655 Рік тому +4

    You wont need radar to find this ship - follow the smoke or smell the burning chandlery is all that's required

  • @thatwilldonicely1314
    @thatwilldonicely1314 Рік тому

    "i say Tvarich, a Jet Fighter has just fell overboard"
    Tvarich, "again, ffs"

  • @Dyson_Cyberdynesystems
    @Dyson_Cyberdynesystems Рік тому +4

    Yeah. No munitions on any of the Sukhois leaving the deck in the stock footage.. Which is an inherent problem of launching non-STOVL large fighters unassisted off a ski-jump. Your choices are fuel or munitions and considering you don't have AAR options available you have to start asking what's the point.

  • @phillipdavidhaskett7513
    @phillipdavidhaskett7513 Рік тому +1

    If that POS was the pinnacle of the USSR's blue-water navy, it's no wonder the Ukrainians are stomping a mud hole in their army's guts, and marching it dry. THAT ship wouldn't have survived six hours of combat with a US Carrier strike group.

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 Рік тому +11

    I believe she also had many fires.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому +1

      Which is pretty impressive on a metal ship.

  • @nordicson2835
    @nordicson2835 Рік тому +2

    Always a pleasure to learn from you. Thank you.

  • @chrislong3938
    @chrislong3938 Рік тому +6

    I've seen a lot of videos on this ship, but this particular one made me feel sorry for it!
    Kinda like a poor pet that is mistreated by its owners!

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому +3

      It's begging to be put out of its cursed existence but Russia won't let it die.

    • @chrislong3938
      @chrislong3938 Рік тому

      @@recoil53 If anyone would run a kill shelter, you'd bet it'd be the Ruskies!

  • @BA-rh5hy
    @BA-rh5hy Рік тому

    Great work! Thank you ! !

  • @0bservationis1
    @0bservationis1 6 місяців тому

    Great video. I heard today that they announced they are decommissioning the aircraft carrier for good?

  • @muktiprateekdas9769
    @muktiprateekdas9769 Рік тому +5

    This ship literally looks like it's running on coal

  • @All4mula
    @All4mula Рік тому +2

    Meanwhile USA fields a FLEET of carriers

  • @alfredkwok9239
    @alfredkwok9239 Рік тому +5

    This is the world famous water leakage underwater submarine ❤❤❤😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉

  • @General_Cheese6
    @General_Cheese6 Рік тому

    Hey Dark Seas, great video today. If I may ask, what music did you use in the video today?

  • @ChosenOne9387
    @ChosenOne9387 Рік тому +2

    Those are some funny looking helicopters 😂

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy6451 Рік тому

    Less than satisfactory. Wow that's an understatement!

  • @renardfranse
    @renardfranse Рік тому +6

    The concept is not without merit. But seems confused as to its role.

  • @pjp7259
    @pjp7259 Рік тому +1

    That carrier travels with a vicious battle group or tug boats 😂

  • @chaiwallah69
    @chaiwallah69 Рік тому +5

    My favorite aircraft carrier!

    • @murphychris9811
      @murphychris9811 Рік тому +6

      you have a very low bar then

    • @chaiwallah69
      @chaiwallah69 Рік тому +4

      @@murphychris9811 I love carriers that constantly break down and have to shut down more than half their boilers in order to function

    • @maitreytelang2312
      @maitreytelang2312 Рік тому

      @@chaiwallah69 Call it an aviation cruiser or sad Vlad will nuke you 😂

    • @davidpetersen566
      @davidpetersen566 Рік тому +1

      @@chaiwallah69 you found the right carrier/cruiser to love then 😁😁👍

  • @jasoncarswell7458
    @jasoncarswell7458 Рік тому +1

    A lot of people like to talk smack about the Kuznetsov's engines, but nobody gives the Russian Navy credit: the mazut smoke and ever-present tugboat is actually clever system to fool NATO into thinking she's already disabled and on fire. Real 4D chess. It's worked perfectly so far. And so long as they avoid running the garbage compactor and the laundry machines at the same time, she can still OFTEN make enough headway to launch a plane or two. Is stronk, stop complain.

  • @holgerwittmann8419
    @holgerwittmann8419 Рік тому +3

    This is what i like with the russians, how they refit and reuse everything.

  • @UnknownPersononGoogle
    @UnknownPersononGoogle Рік тому

    Sounds like a good holiday destination.

  • @majinjones4565
    @majinjones4565 Рік тому +3

    This is the result from outsourcing your navy to Ikea.

  • @Richaag
    @Richaag 10 місяців тому

    Renaming a ship is usually a bad omen. Renaming it 3 times is like admitting you just want it to sink on its own.

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver Рік тому +2

    The Russians haven't the foggiest idea how to do carrier air ops, not even after a century of watching other countries do it.

    • @craftpaint1644
      @craftpaint1644 Рік тому +2

      It baffles me that Russia can build rocket ships, fighter jets, nuclear reactors, satellites, and nuclear weapons, but can't build and maintain one aircraft carrier without catastrophic plumbing and engine troubles.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому

      @@craftpaint1644 While I agree with all of that, the safety and quality of all of that (for their generation) is horrendous. It's actually more shocking that more haven't died.
      Just look at those reactors. It's actually possible to shut down the safety systems - what happened at Cheryobyl. And they don't go into safety mode when failing. A US reactor, when losing power, will drop it's uranium rods to where there is too much space and material between them to have an uncontrolled nuclear reaction.

    • @donkeysunited
      @donkeysunited Рік тому

      @@craftpaint1644 I would say they wanted to have the appearance of having all of that so they can say they are the equals of the US and NATO. But as we have found out in the last year, just because the Russian equipment looks scary doesn't mean that it is scary. Or can even work.
      The big unknown is now China. Do they have solid equipment with well trained staff or are all their planes and ships also made out of good looking paper?

  • @ricdale7813
    @ricdale7813 Рік тому +1

    Talk about an inept and corruption laden Military Oligarch State. The Military has spent enough on the Refurb's and Refits too build 2 newer CV's. The thing has had 4 Major Electronics refits and still sports 80's technology throughout and much of that technology doesnt work as advertised. Vintage 1920's design Sludge oil boilers and a ton of other Engineering short comings throughout its Entire design. A floating dead hulk.

  • @jeffblacky
    @jeffblacky Рік тому +3

    Do a video on the floating carrier casino Minsk in China

  • @BoBaH_BoBaHoB
    @BoBaH_BoBaHoB Рік тому +2

    Because of cheap heavy oil fuel aka "mazut".

  • @Jeff-fc3tw
    @Jeff-fc3tw Рік тому +1

    The fact it hasn't left port in more than 5 years because it keeps exploding, Catching Fire or breaking down.

  • @stevenevert9162
    @stevenevert9162 Рік тому +13

    I'm a bit mystified to know that this is missing so much, but at the same time I know how difficult it is to create a video that isn't too long.
    Unfortunately it's not easy to create something that will keep Your viewers completely engaged. This is one of those topics that You could've added an extra 7-10 minutes without losing Your core audience.

    • @ripwednesdayadams
      @ripwednesdayadams Рік тому +1

      I would honestly prefer 20-30 min videos. The content is interesting but there isn’t enough time to cover these subjects properly.

  • @matthewgaines10
    @matthewgaines10 Рік тому +2

    The “aircraft carrier” that comes with its own sea going tug boat.

  • @jim2lane
    @jim2lane Рік тому +4

    The problem with the ski jump carriers is that a lack of a catapult system severely limits the takeoff weight of the planes they launch. Take a look at all of the launches shown here. Not one of them shows an aircraft launching with any external stores or munitions

    • @Swans_And_Ducks
      @Swans_And_Ducks Рік тому +1

      Brits seem to manage ok.

    • @jim2lane
      @jim2lane Рік тому +1

      @@Swans_And_Ducks the new F-35's have mitigated that challenge somewhat, but they still had to come up with a rolling landing when returning with ordinance to avoid the situation with the Harriers where they would have to dump unused ordinance in the sea before landing

    • @voivod6871
      @voivod6871 Рік тому

      @@Swans_And_Ducks Yes but the Brit carries operated actual fully capable VSTOL aircraft.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 Рік тому

      Yes, the Russian fighters cannot have a full load of munitions and fuel.
      So shorter range, no loiter time, and little to hit with.
      Realizing that pre-WWII carriers had catapults.

    • @donkeysunited
      @donkeysunited Рік тому

      The effect on takeoff weight is mentioned in the video. It also shows that most aircraft launching are equipped for air to air (needs fewer heavy armaments).
      But it definitely wouldn't be useful for CAP if it couldn't launch aircraft with fuel tanks, unless they have access to inflight refuelling.

  • @danielvandersall6756
    @danielvandersall6756 Рік тому +1

    So funny to me that you talk about this ship like it has EVER had any combat potential, or is anything but another utter pile of junk that has long ago been stripped of any parts that can be sold off for cash, and the rest cannibalized for spare parts or just allowed to fall apart.
    If anyone questions this appraisal, let me show you the report filed by Russian Navy inspectors on the Flagship of the Baltic Fleet, the fearsome Moskva:
    3 Tier anti-missile system; NONE were working at the time the ship
    was struck.
    The Short-range sea to air missile launchers did not work.
    The ship had 6 Phalanx CIWS on board; only one worked. The rest
    had been stripped-for spare parts.
    The ship had a sophisticated anti-air missile system; the radar used
    by this system interfered with the communications system of the ship-
    and was turned off. Even when on, it apparently had great
    difficulty targeting anything.
    The twin 130 mm cannon that could have been used to back up the CIWS
    also did not work.
    Most of the damage control systems also did not work; several watertight
    bulkhead doors were found to be leaking; several were wedged open.
    Out of the 500 fire extinguishers on board, inspection showed there
    were actually only 50.
    Due to the value of the Damage Control equipment and tools, and constant theft,
    the equipment was locked up; only the Admiral had the key.
    Several of the engines were past their mandatory replacement date;
    by 10,000 hours. They could only be turned on by permission of the
    Admiral, meaning the ship could only do half-speed. And that only
    in emergencies.
    Most of the control systems were inoperable, many not having working
    indicator lights to show if there was actually a problem.
    The ship's generators were also at the end of their service life and
    would work at random.
    The rudder and steering was also broken; the ship could turn at a
    maximum of 20 degrees.
    The ship's heating and cooling systems were sporadic, at best.
    After the report was submitted by the inspectors, the Russian Navy
    labeled the ship as "Operational." And it was sent into COMBAT
    in this condition.
    Let me repeat: this is the FLAGSHIP. If any, ANY US Navy ships were ever found in this condition, we'd have a lot of Admirals walking the plank--perhaps literally. But Russia just shrugged, some Russian admirals put down payments on their new yachts, and sent the ship and crews off to their deaths. Many people believe that the ship was swarmed by hundreds of missiles, or shot by a torpedo. In reality, it was hit by two missiles, both of which impacted the ship with absolutely no defense.

  • @brucejenner4800
    @brucejenner4800 Рік тому +3

    This vessel is an absolute joke.

  • @TheGrrson
    @TheGrrson Рік тому

    No mention of the ship's special fuel blend, Mazut?

  • @jonmcgee6987
    @jonmcgee6987 Рік тому +3

    The ship is the current host body of an evil spirit that has cursed the Russian lands for over a thousand years . A noble Russian knight slew it's original body centuries ago. It's malignant spirit reappears when a new host body is ready. Before this current ship, it once inhabited the Kamchatka. Once again it has risen to curse the Russian people.

  • @samuelanketell8190
    @samuelanketell8190 Рік тому

    It sounds like the ship is so hopeless that it wouldn't even work as an artificial reef .....lol

  • @hijinxvr1027
    @hijinxvr1027 Рік тому +4

    I have logged hundreds of hours in DCS, flying the Su-33 from the Admiral-K, which probably means I have launched and trapped more by myself in simulation than the entire Russian Navy combined has actually done in real life...
    That being said, I now fly the F/A-18 from the US Super Carriers and understand first-hand how much of a difference it is... Russia will never be able to compete with the US in Naval power and so should just give up and accept that it's just playing pretend and should find a smaller bath-tub so it won't drown...

  • @zach11241
    @zach11241 Рік тому

    Man. Russian tech is so advanced! Their surface fleets are also undersea variants. Their aircraft can become ground targets. Their tank crews are almost always promoted to Cosmonaut Status. Their three day special operations can catch the enemy completely off guard by lasting years instead. Just insanely brilliant technological advances!

  • @cordingdesert9566
    @cordingdesert9566 Рік тому +1

    Thats a big polluter, or an average BMW.

  • @alphalunamare
    @alphalunamare Рік тому +3

    Don't forget that the British Royal Navy built 3 'Through Deck Cruisers' ... Invincible, Illustrious and Ark Royal.

  • @bobpiec
    @bobpiec Рік тому +1

    With a smoke stack like that pumping out as much smoke it will make her an easy target.