amazing video thank you so much! as Turkish person and citizen its really such a shame that my country doesnt do enouh research on our historical clothing so its great to see people from abroad to take intrest in it! another thing is in the ottoman empire they did not speak arabic, yes they wrote with arabic alphabet but that was a man made in a sense a fake writing system that was a mix of arabic, turkish and farsi this writing system was made to separate ordinary people from the higher class, reading ottoman writing is easy but writing it is very very difficult which is why most people who could write was able to aford writing classes for 4-5 years! so did higher ups or anyone also speak a mix of arabic, farsi and turkish? No they didn’t most people spoke just regular Turkish like we do today in Turkey ofc ethnic minorities within the ottoman still spoke their language back then aswell. I just wanted to touch on this topic that even most Turkish people don’t know! again thank you so much for this great video
THANK YOU!!! the yt algorithm recommened this to me. I'm always looking for more information about Turkish traditional clothing. I'm a second gen Turkish immigrant in Europe. I have been wanting to learn more about the clothing and try sewing my own at some point. Thank you for sharing this info and your references 😊
Great and very informative video:) One thing to add with discussions to religious garments like veils is that not everyone in the ottoman empire was muslim! There were a lot of people who were christian and jewish and many other religions that all had their particular customs when it came to things like modesty and veiling. There were also many laws dictating what one had to wear according to their place in society like their religion or their proffesion. These laws are most strict when it comes to headwear. Because different laws applied to people of different religions and ethnicities it was important to know who someone was just by looking at their clothes. I dont remember the specific era or sultan that implemented this law but an answer to your question about peçe or face veiling may be that younger muslim women had to cover their faces(not including the eyes) but older women only had to cover their hair. But again these rules change a lot with different monarchs and different time periods. There are also rules pretaining to shoe colour and religion and the fact that white veils were reserved for the muslim population.
great video! the only thing that i would like to add is that ottoman empires language wasn't arabic, but turkish. ottoman turkish to be specific (of course the empire had many other cultures and languages within) and ottoman turkish used a modified form of arabic script.
Hi. I bumped into your video by coincidence while I was trying to find a specific pattern for a dolama. Even though not every info in your video is 100% accurate I find your work very constructive and enthusiastic. Therefore, I'd like to make some corrections and contributions to this valuable work. Some of the points I noticed in your video are: - Ottoman language is not Arabic even though it is inscribed by using Arabic letters. It is actually Turkish highly influenced by Arabic and Persian languages written with the Arabic letters. Someone who can speak Arabic but not Turkish will be able to read what's written to some extent but not really understand what's written in an Ottoman Turkish text.. :) - In Islam, men actually need to cover only the area between the belly line and under the knee cap. This is enough even during the prayer. As for ladies, the Qur'an says (Nûr: 31) that the ladies must not show their "decorations/jewels/ornaments" (which most probably refers to the breasts, even though in the later part of the verse the "jewels" and "private parts" are used one after the other), and they must put their head covers over their collars.. etc etc etc and they must not stomp while walking in a manner that their hidden "jewels" can become obvious from outside. - the transparent shirts can also be silk particularly if you see them on the Sultan's personal guards called "Solak". Silk shirts were both prestigious and they had a very special purpose. Silk is arrow resistant. When you are shot with an arrow, the arrow will go into the body without penetrating the silk layer so it will be easier to remove the arrow or the arrowhead. In short, it was also serving like a light armor. Regular shirts however, were made of a fabric called "Trabzon Bezi" (Trabzon Cloth). Trabzon is a city on the black sea shores of Anatolia and the place was the main provider/supplier of this particular cloth that was being used for underwear and undershirts. The people in Trabzon however call it "Feretiko". It is a fabric made of hemp. Currently the state promotes the revival of webbing this particular cloth in the traditional manner. Fun fact: there is also a fabric type called Trabzon Bezi which is colorful like a rainbow and actually used as a table cloth or apron or head cover etc. It's been confused with the actual Trabzon Bezi. Therefore most of the reenactors (even the janissary army band called Mehter Takımı) dressing as Janissaries wear some funny shirts made of this colorful fabric.. :)) - regarding the shalvar (şalvar), it is often confused with the çakşır combined with gaiters ("tozluk" ) made of leather or felt or baize. Çakşır was more common in daily city life than şalvar. so they are not actually tapered şalvars but çakşırs combined with tozluks. Çakşır has several types by the way, but the main idea of it is being baggy shorts that cover the area between the belly line and under the knee caps. - I'm surprised dolama was not even mentioned by the way. it is one of the main elements of Ottoman clothing. It is basically a jacket that doesnt have buttons, ends at the ankles and has narrow cuffs until 16th century. With the introduction of fire arms in the miltary world, the cuffs would get wider. Dolama literally means wrapping. Since it doesnt have buttons, you actually wrap it around the body after putting it on and secure it by wrapping a sash around the waist. Then the corners of the long skirt are tucked into the sash for being able to walk easier without tangling. The kaftan (which was usually worn by officials and high level individuals) was usually worn over the dolama. - other than that, I believe Türk Giyim Kuşam ve Süslenme Sözlüğü (Turkish Clothing, Garment and Adornment Dictionary) by Reşat Ekrem Koçu may give vast amount of ideas and information about the clothing styles in the Turkish society. Yet, I'm not sure whether you can find it in English or even in Turkish. Thanks for the video and wish you the best of luck.. :)
Wow! Thank you for the information! I actually was not aware of the dolama at all! I am always happy to correct information. I have had a few others add corrections, and I find them very valuable. Thank you so much for taking the time to add to the information. Sincerely, thank you
amazing video thank you so much! as Turkish person and citizen its really such a shame that my country doesnt do enouh research on our historical clothing so its great to see people from abroad to take intrest in it! another thing is in the ottoman empire they did not speak arabic, yes they wrote with arabic alphabet but that was a man made in a sense a fake writing system that was a mix of arabic, turkish and farsi this writing system was made to separate ordinary people from the higher class, reading ottoman writing is easy but writing it is very very difficult which is why most people who could write was able to aford writing classes for 4-5 years! so did higher ups or anyone also speak a mix of arabic, farsi and turkish? No they didn’t most people spoke just regular Turkish like we do today in Turkey ofc ethnic minorities within the ottoman still spoke their language back then aswell. I just wanted to touch on this topic that even most Turkish people don’t know! again thank you so much for this great video
I really wish there were more resources. Trashing other people's cultures is just massive BS. Thank you for sharing your findings!
THANK YOU!!! the yt algorithm recommened this to me. I'm always looking for more information about Turkish traditional clothing. I'm a second gen Turkish immigrant in Europe.
I have been wanting to learn more about the clothing and try sewing my own at some point.
Thank you for sharing this info and your references 😊
Great and very informative video:) One thing to add with discussions to religious garments like veils is that not everyone in the ottoman empire was muslim! There were a lot of people who were christian and jewish and many other religions that all had their particular customs when it came to things like modesty and veiling. There were also many laws dictating what one had to wear according to their place in society like their religion or their proffesion. These laws are most strict when it comes to headwear. Because different laws applied to people of different religions and ethnicities it was important to know who someone was just by looking at their clothes. I dont remember the specific era or sultan that implemented this law but an answer to your question about peçe or face veiling may be that younger muslim women had to cover their faces(not including the eyes) but older women only had to cover their hair. But again these rules change a lot with different monarchs and different time periods. There are also rules pretaining to shoe colour and religion and the fact that white veils were reserved for the muslim population.
Also thank you for touching on the difference between Turkish vs Ottoman. ☺️☺️☺️
Of course!! i am so happy you enjoyed the video!
As a Muslim this is really awesome to see!!! I have been working on trying to find historical fashion within Islamic cultures.
That is amazing! I love to see this is inclusive and helpful!
great video! the only thing that i would like to add is that ottoman empires language wasn't arabic, but turkish. ottoman turkish to be specific (of course the empire had many other cultures and languages within) and ottoman turkish used a modified form of arabic script.
Thank you so much for the clarification, from all the replies, I have learned so much!
thank you!
Hi. I bumped into your video by coincidence while I was trying to find a specific pattern for a dolama. Even though not every info in your video is 100% accurate I find your work very constructive and enthusiastic. Therefore, I'd like to make some corrections and contributions to this valuable work.
Some of the points I noticed in your video are:
- Ottoman language is not Arabic even though it is inscribed by using Arabic letters. It is actually Turkish highly influenced by Arabic and Persian languages written with the Arabic letters. Someone who can speak Arabic but not Turkish will be able to read what's written to some extent but not really understand what's written in an Ottoman Turkish text.. :)
- In Islam, men actually need to cover only the area between the belly line and under the knee cap. This is enough even during the prayer. As for ladies, the Qur'an says (Nûr: 31) that the ladies must not show their "decorations/jewels/ornaments" (which most probably refers to the breasts, even though in the later part of the verse the "jewels" and "private parts" are used one after the other), and they must put their head covers over their collars.. etc etc etc and they must not stomp while walking in a manner that their hidden "jewels" can become obvious from outside.
- the transparent shirts can also be silk particularly if you see them on the Sultan's personal guards called "Solak". Silk shirts were both prestigious and they had a very special purpose. Silk is arrow resistant. When you are shot with an arrow, the arrow will go into the body without penetrating the silk layer so it will be easier to remove the arrow or the arrowhead. In short, it was also serving like a light armor. Regular shirts however, were made of a fabric called "Trabzon Bezi" (Trabzon Cloth). Trabzon is a city on the black sea shores of Anatolia and the place was the main provider/supplier of this particular cloth that was being used for underwear and undershirts. The people in Trabzon however call it "Feretiko". It is a fabric made of hemp. Currently the state promotes the revival of webbing this particular cloth in the traditional manner. Fun fact: there is also a fabric type called Trabzon Bezi which is colorful like a rainbow and actually used as a table cloth or apron or head cover etc. It's been confused with the actual Trabzon Bezi. Therefore most of the reenactors (even the janissary army band called Mehter Takımı) dressing as Janissaries wear some funny shirts made of this colorful fabric.. :))
- regarding the shalvar (şalvar), it is often confused with the çakşır combined with gaiters ("tozluk" ) made of leather or felt or baize. Çakşır was more common in daily city life than şalvar. so they are not actually tapered şalvars but çakşırs combined with tozluks. Çakşır has several types by the way, but the main idea of it is being baggy shorts that cover the area between the belly line and under the knee caps.
- I'm surprised dolama was not even mentioned by the way. it is one of the main elements of Ottoman clothing. It is basically a jacket that doesnt have buttons, ends at the ankles and has narrow cuffs until 16th century. With the introduction of fire arms in the miltary world, the cuffs would get wider. Dolama literally means wrapping. Since it doesnt have buttons, you actually wrap it around the body after putting it on and secure it by wrapping a sash around the waist. Then the corners of the long skirt are tucked into the sash for being able to walk easier without tangling. The kaftan (which was usually worn by officials and high level individuals) was usually worn over the dolama.
- other than that, I believe Türk Giyim Kuşam ve Süslenme Sözlüğü (Turkish Clothing, Garment and Adornment Dictionary) by Reşat Ekrem Koçu may give vast amount of ideas and information about the clothing styles in the Turkish society. Yet, I'm not sure whether you can find it in English or even in Turkish.
Thanks for the video and wish you the best of luck.. :)
Wow! Thank you for the information! I actually was not aware of the dolama at all! I am always happy to correct information. I have had a few others add corrections, and I find them very valuable. Thank you so much for taking the time to add to the information. Sincerely, thank you
@@EagleRue You're welcome. I hope it helps with your researches.. :)
love this. it was informative and ineresting.
Thank you!
Great resource, thank you!
Actually the Ottoman Empire or Ottoman dynasty was founded in 1299 under Osman I. The empire before the ottomans was the Seljuk empire
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The Ottoman Empire, at it's height, covered thousands of square KM, and many countries and cultures.
Face covering come from Orthodox Christian culture Basically 15:23
face covering was not a thing in western Christianity