Getting rid of the CIS and going ITB + Standalone was the best thing I ever did. The total cost isn't actually that far off what you could throw at the CIS to get it running right anyway! My 16v starts hot or cold. Idles solid as a rock and makes more power. Appreciate the values of these might stop people going down this route but technically it could go back to stock should you wish. Glad you've got this one sorted!
I almost did EFI on mine but opted for stock refurbishment for value later. Runs like new (mostly) still have 2 new pumps to go on and new BOSCH fuel accumulator
Honestly efi has a lot of advantages like knock detection etc. If one wants to, the best thing about it is, that you are able to even keep the cis optic...my 103 2.6 will get an efi too
most people who build na engines do efi straight away, it shouldn't be no difference with these. I know allot of the mercedes engines from this era see good power increase with EFI
Good thing that it wasn't something major like an engine rebuild, good to see another classic fixed! Love to see audio being mentioned with this 👀👀Classic Merc wheels would look killer on this!
My 2.5-16 had the same issue. Mercedes had my car for 3 weeks, got a bill for £980, didn’t really get to the running that well, that was 15 years ago. I mistakenly put super high octane petrol in it. Completely different car.
I can only speak from my experience, Mercedes had the car in, as it would stall ever time I came to a stop, but it would fireback up immediately. One issue I found, was find someone who knows these cars, the Mercedes tec guys didn’t. Recently had my S500 5.5 in the main dealer having an ABS pump fitted, made a monkeys breakfast of that. But once I used super unleaded, no issue.
If its cutting out at idle when your coming to junctions and you have to keep blipping the throttle to keep it running. Change the throttle microswitch at the end of the throttle cable it tells the ECU your foot is off the throttle and to keep fuelling the engine. You can get them from Mercedes and its a easy job worth changing the throttle cable at the same time another easy job. I did this on both the 190E's i've owned one being a 2.6 manual the other a 2.5-16v like yours but in 199 blue black.
Had my CIS system recoed recently, new fuel distributer, dizzy cap, injectors, pumps, fuel tank and filter, runs great yet off the line the 2nd gear start is 💩
Indeed a knob he was🙈 Watching this reminds me of my buddies 190 AMG here in south Africa..its an original car and no.50 of 50 Its a 2.3 8v When i sat in it for the 1st time i was surprised by the power delivery..lol definitely not a fast car..but still good
I sold one last year , it had tank sorted and fuel pump etc This thing needs a older Merc tech to go through it . I made £4000 on mine and only bought it with profit off a e34 M5 I made a big pile on . Understanding a recession may be coming I put the money in the bank and couldn’t help it I bought a free cosworth Sierra and now I couldn’t care less about the economy I’ve got a free Cosworth 😂
throw that 16v sht out and put m104 3.2. Mine hasnt failed for...13 years since swap which actually baffles even me, basically all costs I ever had was changing fluids! And I have been daily driving it and been on track days many times!
Raj put an Evo 2 kit on it and give your automotive work to some Apne bundhe......... in Hayes why you going Reading when you got so many Apne local Merc specialists?
Ayrton Senna and Niki Lauda drove the 2.3 version in the same colour back in the 80's making it an iconic car ... changing the colour would be sacrilege!
Wicked 190e raj... BTW that Fiat driver at the island thought you were going around the island because you were in the right hand as if going around the island BUT you turned Left into the Right lane... So he/she wasn't aas you cussed "A Dickhead".!. Turning left should be in the Left inner lane going into Left lane. So come on...no need for the unjustified GUSSA.!.😊
Thanks Bal - btw the A312 is a dual carriageway with two lanes joining from the roundabout. I was in the correct lane as I was not indicating to go right - common practice on this roundabout. Even if I was going right this driver would still have cut me up. No GUSSA... just clarifying my position 😊🤣
Getting rid of the CIS and going ITB + Standalone was the best thing I ever did. The total cost isn't actually that far off what you could throw at the CIS to get it running right anyway! My 16v starts hot or cold. Idles solid as a rock and makes more power. Appreciate the values of these might stop people going down this route but technically it could go back to stock should you wish. Glad you've got this one sorted!
I almost did EFI on mine but opted for stock refurbishment for value later. Runs like new (mostly) still have 2 new pumps to go on and new BOSCH fuel accumulator
Honestly efi has a lot of advantages like knock detection etc. If one wants to, the best thing about it is, that you are able to even keep the cis optic...my 103 2.6 will get an efi too
most people who build na engines do efi straight away, it shouldn't be no difference with these. I know allot of the mercedes engines from this era see good power increase with EFI
Raj loves his airmax 90’s
Oh yes 😊👌🏽
Great video, love the car archeology and finding out what could be wrong with them 🙂
Thanks buddy, this one was a challenge!
Good thing that it wasn't something major like an engine rebuild, good to see another classic fixed! Love to see audio being mentioned with this 👀👀Classic Merc wheels would look killer on this!
Slowly getting there 👍🏽👍🏽
Can't wait for the next episode mr S ❤
Thanks for watching 👍🏽
My 2.5-16 had the same issue. Mercedes had my car for 3 weeks, got a bill for £980, didn’t really get to the running that well, that was 15 years ago.
I mistakenly put super high octane petrol in it. Completely different car.
The high octane petrol was bad for it?
I can only speak from my experience, Mercedes had the car in, as it would stall ever time I came to a stop, but it would fireback up immediately. One issue I found, was find someone who knows these cars, the Mercedes tec guys didn’t. Recently had my S500 5.5 in the main dealer having an ABS pump fitted, made a monkeys breakfast of that. But once I used super unleaded, no issue.
Raj keeping Beast Mode in check!
💪🏽💪🏽
Superb video Raj!
Appreciated 🤘🏼
If its cutting out at idle when your coming to junctions and you have to keep blipping the throttle to keep it running.
Change the throttle microswitch at the end of the throttle cable it tells the ECU your foot is off the throttle and to keep fuelling the engine. You can get them from Mercedes and its a easy job worth changing the throttle cable at the same time another easy job. I did this on both the 190E's i've owned one being a 2.6 manual the other a 2.5-16v like yours but in 199 blue black.
Thanks for the advice - it’s sorted now and running like a dream 👌🏽
Beautiful car compared to the monstrous models we see on our roads.
Yes indeed!
Mine was the same, complete new refurbed CIS was the key, the fuel distributors are finicky, bit of crap in there and runs like shite.
Where’s that Renault 5 get some sounds in that
That wasn't a good cold start. It struggled then started. It should be a crisp clean start.
Great video, merc will be 100 once it run good .
Video audio seems to be recorded at a bit low volume.
Noted! Thanks for watching 🙌🏽
Change sparkplugs, fuel acumulator, ignition leads, cap, arm, air flow potentiometer, valve steam seals
Had my CIS system recoed recently, new fuel distributer, dizzy cap, injectors, pumps, fuel tank and filter, runs great yet off the line the 2nd gear start is 💩
Hi what size wheels are those 👍
Indeed a knob he was🙈
Watching this reminds me of my buddies 190 AMG here in south Africa..its an original car and no.50 of 50
Its a 2.3 8v
When i sat in it for the 1st time i was surprised by the power delivery..lol definitely not a fast car..but still good
Haha… that driver definitely was a proper knob! These cars were quick in period but not by modern standards. Nonetheless, an enjoyable drive 👍🏽
I sold one last year , it had tank sorted and fuel pump etc
This thing needs a older Merc tech to go through it .
I made £4000 on mine and only bought it with profit off a e34 M5 I made a big pile on .
Understanding a recession may be coming I put the money in the bank and couldn’t help it I bought a free cosworth Sierra and now I couldn’t care less about the economy I’ve got a free Cosworth 😂
blue smoke means valve seal and piston rings issue...not so cheap repairs sadly
keep it standard!!!
Flat face alloys are the only wheels for a W201. Forget AMGs :((
throw that 16v sht out and put m104 3.2. Mine hasnt failed for...13 years since swap which actually baffles even me, basically all costs I ever had was changing fluids! And I have been daily driving it and been on track days many times!
He look like David Beckham 😂
I wish 😂
Raj put an Evo 2 kit on it and give your automotive work to some Apne bundhe......... in Hayes why you going Reading when you got so many Apne local Merc specialists?
I don't think there are any mechanics local to us who could have got this car running right (and we know quite a few)!
Change the colour of the gaddi yaar😂
Ayrton Senna and Niki Lauda drove the 2.3 version in the same colour back in the 80's making it an iconic car ... changing the colour would be sacrilege!
Wicked 190e raj... BTW that Fiat driver at the island thought you were going around the island because you were in the right hand as if going around the island BUT you turned Left into the Right lane... So he/she wasn't aas you cussed "A Dickhead".!. Turning left should be in the Left inner lane going into Left lane. So come on...no need for the unjustified GUSSA.!.😊
Thanks Bal - btw the A312 is a dual carriageway with two lanes joining from the roundabout. I was in the correct lane as I was not indicating to go right - common practice on this roundabout. Even if I was going right this driver would still have cut me up.
No GUSSA... just clarifying my position 😊🤣
@@rajsangha911 no probz,.. love your car portfolio and the way you run your business. Peace & Good health to you ALL.!.
Runs like shit, not goes like shit off a shovel
Was running like sh*t... now driving a lot better. However, still does not go like sh*t off a shovel 😂
You've had the car for a year....change the engine soundproofing hood pad already. Looks ugly with the hood up.
New soundproofing ordered and will be fitting it very soon 👍🏼
@@rajsangha911 beautiful car brother. Enjoy
I brought one of those when they first came in to the country. What a pile of rubbish.
Haha... they're not that bad!
@@rajsangha911 I was used the the cosworth fords so that was a big letdown 🤷♂️ it wasn’t cheap either 👍
Raj you got some nice cars brother. Have you got instagram
Thank you - my instagram is @rajsangha911