My current budget rig is an avx with wifi, a Celestron 6 sct and reducer, and an astromania 60mm scope with a Zwo 120mc-s and a 294mc pro with a duo filter. ALL USED FOR $1500!!!! Could upgrade to a Rasa 8 and still have money left over for a recliner 😂
@ilyamondrowsli2649 - This scope is not *used* . It is brand new. You are not the target market for this telescope, so it does not matter, that you won't buy it.
@@MrSummitville was comparing mine to this new telescope basically saying how used can save you tons of money, I don’t think the origin is in anybody’s market, at least nobody with any knowledge on astrophotography
@@ilyamondrowski2649 People like you, said the same thing about the 50mm SeeStar. Yet, our Astronomy Club members have purchased 5 SeeStars. Our time is valuable. We spend no time setting up or tearing down the telescope. We spend very little time post processing. We spend time with our family, not *wasting* our lives at the telescope or computer. We are producing very nice images. When the 6" RASA becomes available we will purchase that too. You only "know* what is good for you. You have know clue what is good for others. And you should stop pretending that you do ...
@@ilyamondrowski2649 It's targeted at people like me. I have enormous interest in and love for astrophotography, but no time - I mean NO time - to learn all the details of how to assemble and use the magnificent kit you have described. This pains me enormously - I WISH I had the time, because I greatly appreciate it, and I admire people like you who know what they're doing - but I simply don't. I work a lot of hours, then make dinner at about 8:00 pm, eat dinner with wife at about 10:00 (she works even more than I do) while we watch a show, crash and do it again. The Origin appeals because I can set it up in the evening and leave it to do its thing, and put it away before I go to bed around 12:30 or 1:00 AM, and in the morning I will wake up to view a gorgeous image of a galaxy or nebulae that was captured from MY BACKYARD. That's the target market, people who can't devote the time required to this hobby but still want to be involved.
Excellent review but you miss the mark on who the target market is. While it's an expensive purchase, I don't have the time for a piece-by-piece build of a better scope kit, nor do I have the time to devote to the software side and all the image processing. It's for people like me, who really, really want to capture their own DSO images but need a set-and-forget device. Now, is it better (a full 8x better?) than the small devices that are ~$500? That's arguable and an issue I'm still struggling with.
It's a great concept though. But for the same price or a little more you can get a starter setup with an equatorial or harmonic drive mount that will give you longer exposures and better quality images. Hopefully in the future they will release a more budget friendly version.
@@easyastroimages5818Add up all of pieces and tell me your the total cost. Yet, you still won't have a telescope that you can just set down and turn on and start taking photos. *You* will have to attach & connect all of the components, and you will have configure the computer, and you will have make the EAF work. The people on Cloudy Nights are *not* the target market. So who cares what the say? The people on Cloudy Nights are still whining about the SeeStar. But yet the SeeStar is selling fast and showing up at Star Parties faster than any other telescope, ever!
Hi Chad. Good video. I saw the Original at NEAF and it look smaller than the pictures and not really worth the price they are asking for it. I have a RASA 8, an Edge 8 with hyperatar and a C9.25 with hyperstar and prefer the versatility I get with those. I saw another UA-camr who physically had one and reviewed it but I felt he was a pitchman for Celestron and I took the review with a large grain of salt. The price for this is ridiculous. I would prefer the 6 inch RASA by itself or a C6 with hyperstar. I wish them well with it but it’s a nonstarter for me. Best regards Luis from NY
I’ve owned all of those too except the edge 8. I tried with them so hard to make my gen1 rasa8 right and they failed me. Nobody on the phone had any idea about the in run changes that had been made that I wanted them to do while they had it. It took 3 months for them to basically clean and collimate it. Heck I sent my Redcat to William optics which I think went to Singapore or Vietnam and it only took 2 months lol. High point scientific was not easy to deal with either.
I feel your pain. When I first got the RASA 8 I had to drive back to Highpoint the following Monday because the scopes threads where the ring tightens up your camera had galling and would not turn past a certain point to tighten down. I called them and said look I just got it today and it’s defective I’m going to drive it to you. They exchanged it with no issue. But they were easier to deal with back then. Now they are big and mail order only so I can’t just drive there and return stuff. The second RASA has been good and so has been the hyperstar. But it’s not as easy to dial in then other scopes. Quality control by Celestron is lacking. I got a new edge which came with dust inside the tube and on the mirror. Luckily I got it replaced easily and got a good one. Clear skies Luis from NY
@@commandosolo_193 Example: An 8" RASA + GoTo Mount + ASIAIR type Computer + CMOS Camera + Electronic Focuser + Automatic Anti-Dew Heater + Lithium Battery + Filter Drawer is $4,000! And you have to program the computer and attach all over add-ons. No, you cannot build an f/2 Astrograph for $4000, that you just set on the ground, turn on and start stacking photos live = EAA and saving Raw FITS files.
I think you're right Chad. A lot of technology that needs to work on the Origin from a company whose strong point is optics. That said, smart telescopes are the future. We live in exciting times.
@@easyastroimages5818Late to the market? What other company has anything like the 6" RASA Origin? Celestron is in this space all by themself. Even ZWO has admitted the SeeStar 50 is the "beginners" model. ZWO is already working SeeStar Version 2 - Bigger Optics, Equatorial Tracking & Mosaic Stitching for wider angle images.
Results coming in on Facebook Origin User groups look amazing.
ive seen a lot of complaints about image size due to the cropping of the field rotation :(
My current budget rig is an avx with wifi, a Celestron 6 sct and reducer, and an astromania 60mm scope with a Zwo 120mc-s and a 294mc pro with a duo filter. ALL USED FOR $1500!!!! Could upgrade to a Rasa 8 and still have money left over for a recliner 😂
That’s a good rig. Hey if you ever upgrade the am5 will fit perfectly on the avx so never sell the tripod lol.
@ilyamondrowsli2649 - This scope is not *used* . It is brand new. You are not the target market for this telescope, so it does not matter, that you won't buy it.
@@MrSummitville was comparing mine to this new telescope basically saying how used can save you tons of money, I don’t think the origin is in anybody’s market, at least nobody with any knowledge on astrophotography
@@ilyamondrowski2649 People like you, said the same thing about the 50mm SeeStar. Yet, our Astronomy Club members have purchased 5 SeeStars. Our time is valuable. We spend no time setting up or tearing down the telescope. We spend very little time post processing. We spend time with our family, not *wasting* our lives at the telescope or computer. We are producing very nice images. When the 6" RASA becomes available we will purchase that too. You only "know* what is good for you. You have know clue what is good for others. And you should stop pretending that you do ...
@@ilyamondrowski2649 It's targeted at people like me. I have enormous interest in and love for astrophotography, but no time - I mean NO time - to learn all the details of how to assemble and use the magnificent kit you have described. This pains me enormously - I WISH I had the time, because I greatly appreciate it, and I admire people like you who know what they're doing - but I simply don't. I work a lot of hours, then make dinner at about 8:00 pm, eat dinner with wife at about 10:00 (she works even more than I do) while we watch a show, crash and do it again. The Origin appeals because I can set it up in the evening and leave it to do its thing, and put it away before I go to bed around 12:30 or 1:00 AM, and in the morning I will wake up to view a gorgeous image of a galaxy or nebulae that was captured from MY BACKYARD. That's the target market, people who can't devote the time required to this hobby but still want to be involved.
Excellent review but you miss the mark on who the target market is. While it's an expensive purchase, I don't have the time for a piece-by-piece build of a better scope kit, nor do I have the time to devote to the software side and all the image processing. It's for people like me, who really, really want to capture their own DSO images but need a set-and-forget device. Now, is it better (a full 8x better?) than the small devices that are ~$500? That's arguable and an issue I'm still struggling with.
It's a great concept though. But for the same price or a little more you can get a starter setup with an equatorial or harmonic drive mount that will give you longer exposures and better quality images. Hopefully in the future they will release a more budget friendly version.
Agree totally. Price seems to be the major concern
@@easyastroimages5818Add up all of pieces and tell me your the total cost. Yet, you still won't have a telescope that you can just set down and turn on and start taking photos. *You* will have to attach & connect all of the components, and you will have configure the computer, and you will have make the EAF work. The people on Cloudy Nights are *not* the target market. So who cares what the say? The people on Cloudy Nights are still whining about the SeeStar. But yet the SeeStar is selling fast and showing up at Star Parties faster than any other telescope, ever!
I have never had a WIFI issue with my Evolution mount. Purchased 10/23.
this was before
Hi Chad. Good video. I saw the Original at NEAF and it look smaller than the pictures and not really worth the price they are asking for it. I have a RASA 8, an Edge 8 with hyperatar and a C9.25 with hyperstar and prefer the versatility I get with those. I saw another UA-camr who physically had one and reviewed it but I felt he was a pitchman for Celestron and I took the review with a large grain of salt. The price for this is ridiculous. I would prefer the 6 inch RASA by itself or a C6 with hyperstar. I wish them well with it but it’s a nonstarter for me.
Best regards
Luis from NY
I’ve owned all of those too except the edge 8. I tried with them so hard to make my gen1 rasa8 right and they failed me. Nobody on the phone had any idea about the in run changes that had been made that I wanted them to do while they had it. It took 3 months for them to basically clean and collimate it. Heck I sent my Redcat to William optics which I think went to Singapore or Vietnam and it only took 2 months lol. High point scientific was not easy to deal with either.
I feel your pain. When I first got the RASA 8 I had to drive back to Highpoint the following Monday because the scopes threads where the ring tightens up your camera had galling and would not turn past a certain point to tighten down. I called them and said look I just got it today and it’s defective I’m going to drive it to you. They exchanged it with no issue. But they were easier to deal with back then. Now they are big and mail order only so I can’t just drive there and return stuff. The second RASA has been good and so has been the hyperstar. But it’s not as easy to dial in then other scopes. Quality control by Celestron is lacking. I got a new edge which came with dust inside the tube and on the mirror. Luckily I got it replaced easily and got a good one.
Clear skies
Luis from NY
if it was 2999.00 it would be better and for 3999.00 I can put together a massive rig for another grand, if that
I could get on board with that price. Bi almost feel like they are pushing the development costs on to the consumer at a larger rate on this one.
@@easyastroimages5818 agreed. most of the people who I have talked to also say 3k is a good spot for the price of this unit.
@@commandosolo_193 Example: An 8" RASA + GoTo Mount + ASIAIR type Computer + CMOS Camera + Electronic Focuser + Automatic Anti-Dew Heater + Lithium Battery + Filter Drawer is $4,000! And you have to program the computer and attach all over add-ons. No, you cannot build an f/2 Astrograph for $4000, that you just set on the ground, turn on and start stacking photos live = EAA and saving Raw
FITS files.
$4000 for that? It better mow the lawn,do the dishes,grocery shop for me.
lol. It’s a lot. Nothing cheap these days
Looks like this thing is doing well
ive seen mixed results. the alt az mount and the cropping to solve field rotation really limits going for a long time and end up losing fov
Overpriced for what it is, wrong camera, wrong mount, Really poor image quality for what it is, did I mention the cost? nearly $8000 here in australia
Holy cow. There’s no way lol.
@@easyastroimages5818 Actualy $7000 the latest and greatest unistellar is $8999 AU
I think you're right Chad. A lot of technology that needs to work on the Origin from a company whose strong point is optics. That said, smart telescopes are the future. We live in exciting times.
Yeah I don’t trust it at all. It’s a very expensive gamble and seeing how late to market they are things might not be so good ??
@@easyastroimages5818Late to the market? What other company has anything like the 6" RASA Origin? Celestron is in this space all by themself. Even ZWO has admitted the SeeStar 50 is the "beginners" model. ZWO is already working SeeStar Version 2 - Bigger Optics, Equatorial Tracking & Mosaic Stitching for wider angle images.
did he say anything? yikes
:)
The Origin is a hard pass. Thanks, Chad.
Easy enough. Def hard pass for me personally but I am quietly rooting for some success. I have an eaa soft spot for