My personal theory as to why Ben had bonded so well with the Feedback form is that the donor Azmuth got that species DNA from was a lot like Ben, their similar personalities resonating, a bit cocky, a bit of a goofball, but no matter how hard he got knocked down he'd always get back up to be a hero for his people and his planet.
That's actually basically canon, if you stay in one form for an extended amount of time it tends to alter your personality, for example, the original Ben 10,000 spent most of his time as xlr8, and this was part of the reason that he was so serious, kinecelerans live in a fast paced society, so they tend to be impatient with those who are slower, in contrast, conductoids tend have the most similar personality to Ben himself
The donor's DNA is irrelevant, since the Omnitrix makes his own genome for the transformation. The aliens aren't a clone of the donor, they are their own being.
I like how nanomech is a healer with how ultimate aliens are supposed to have lived and evolved through a war zone the job of a medic is very important and makes sense for a alien to evolve to fill that need
I like the reasoning that apoplexians are already basically indestructible so you just bulked up Rath and gave him a ranged option, while also adding more of that wrestler flavor, very nice
Though with the original ultimate rath, I really question why he gets more clothes, and how? They had an episode mentioning that rath is naked even for his own species. Then again, NRG and his suit
@teneesh3376 I don't remember the episode, but 2 members of Rath's species were doing a political debate with another species, and both were wearing full outfits. So I guess for some it's simply preference to not appear naked around other species
@@teneesh3376 Since the Omnitrix makes the ideal specimen of a given species, Rath would be the equivalent of an Adonis walking around nude. Maybe the species prides itself in that form of physical beauty and don't mind?
Okay but why does Feedback's ultimate look more natural than he does outside of it? It feels like it actually took the Omnitrix's ability to make an outfit and USED that.
The scorpion thing for Rath is genius. Even though it's never been done like an already hear him in his voice saying something like " Let me tell you something you annoying little pest, I don't like that you're over there, so get over here!"
@@danielkinuthia3670nano machines and weird alien slime can have pretty similar properties in fairness, they’re fairly interchangeable. I think ultimate Upgrade should be able to control biomass and creatures like the Venom symbiote
As soon as you explained Ultimate Wrath's back spikes, I fell in love. It's such a goofy idea that Ben would 100% come up with as soon as he started experimenting with the this form. Also, Ben 10 now also has a Wukong reference, like how every moba game has to have a Wukong reference (probably according to a treaty by the United Nations or something).
I love toxic heel Rath. He's able to go *_"from the top ropes!"_* at any time he wishes! I always did imagine ultimate Rath leaning even more into the personality-altering attributes of Rath. Like, he's really, _really_ powerful but you've gotta make sure to clear the area before you use him because he's more or less uncontrollable and prone to hurting anyone around him for the smallest of perceived slights. Great work as usual!
Rath: Angry growl, turns to Gwen "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING GWEN TENNYSON, YOU'D BETTER CLEAR THE RING, CUZ RATH'S NOT HOLDING BACK ANYMORE!" Slaps the Omnitrix dial to go ultimate I like the idea that even Rath knows his Ultimate form is dangerous and unpredictable, but doesn't care that much.
I like the Lodestar tradeoff of not being allowed to be near technology for the magnetism breaks everything but his control makes it so its just a somewhat small radius.
I'm glad he decided to do Feedback in this episode. Mostly, because I think that Feedback played an extremely important role in the show. He was more than Ben's go-to alien, he was Ben's idealized self. Feedback's death was supposedly the reason why Ben took off the Omnitrix before the events of Alien Force. It was because Ben learned to except his childhood failure and forgive himself that he got to use Feedback again.😊
Honestly with the "Toxic Wrestler" comment you made, i could imagine an ability for Ultimate Rath being that he has toxins that effect the opponent's cognitive skill and either dazes them or makes them more likely to fight, meaning wrath gets more of a challenge. This is referencing the Fact Cats have a Parasite called Toxoplasmosis gondii that effectively turns off their preys fear of them.
I'd like to think he the moment he goes ultimate he just turns to android and cell saga Vegeta from Dragon ball, only with more unintentional cat puns.
Personally I would have gone the route of the berserker armor and have Rath turn mostly feral and mostly invulnerable (he still needs air and such), with the only exception being damage he causes to himself, making ultimate Rath essentially a game of chicken between his own unending wrath and whatever is left of the opponent.
I think I prefer the obelisk form, I like the idea of more non-bipedal aliens in general. Really makes it look like something that does not, and can not have, come from earth.
Quick ideas for the Andromeda 5: Waterhazard becomes a centaur-like lobster with giant water firing claws, losing his surprising mobility given his tanky body. But this also massively improves his durability. Terraspin turns giant sized so that he's on par with plain engines in size & can now fully perceive, manipulate and disperse nearby mana. Losing his ability to easily fly around, as he'd create a Magic tornado anytime he flys. NRG melds with his armor not only stabilizing his radiation but any nearby radiation as well, with the trade off being that UNRG's stabilization is a conscious activity he has to keep up. Armodrillo develops the ability to change different parts of his body into different construction equipment, like a wrecking ball tail or compactor legs. The trade off being his shell is now made of a soft malleable liquid that it used to make its equipment. Amphibian's electrical biology makes him evolve into a living thought that can not only travel from brain to brain via at the speed of thought, but boosts his mind reading capabilities immensely. The trade off being he looses all of his offensive abilities, as he's basically a living thought that even if you had the power to remove him, Ultimate Amphibian would see your thought and come up with a way to avoid it.
I really like the NRG and Amphibian idea. For armadrillo I had an idea he could create a vacuum in his forearm by retracting his piston up in order to pull in air from his hand then closing the opening and being able to use his piston to compress the air rapidly (either creating an air canon effect or shooting of his fist (which is ball shaped so would be like a wrecking ball, especially cause he’d most likely have a chain still attacking it to his arm). Think kong gun from one piece. The trade of would be he’s lose his hard body in favour of a more rubbery one so he can expand slightly when absorbing air. And he loses his drilling capabilities for the air canon.
@@felixowen2693 Thanks, I also though of Borsalino's insane speed when thinking of an Ultimate Amphibian concept. But then I remembered the story of Utgard Loki & was like, hey the speed of thought actually fits much better for Amphibian considering he was originally in Ben's head & can read minds.
Idk why, but Ultimate Rath could have been poisonous, like his skin secretes toxic sweat the more he fights. Makes his invulnerability more hard to work around, but could also give the downside he overheats fasters due to the poison not working like actual sweat or he's dangerous for anyone not hostile to be around. Still love the design Ash made tho.
@@chaosenforcerdhm969Specially fur-covered aliens, one of the main theories regarding why humans body hair became thinner is because it makes sweating easier (humans are the only animal whose whole body sweats).
12:36 I actually lost it laughing when you named him Powerline and "eye to eye" from the Goofy Movie started playing. Love the design, turning the singular green eye into what resembles cool glasses is a wonderful touch.
I always love the designs of these ultimate aliens, but one thing I have seen become more prominent is the lack of a proper “trade off”. All of the best ultimates in UA are so good because of the thought that goes into their powers. Ultimate humungosaur can’t grow anymore, and ultimate echo echo can’t duplicate. Both are crucial parts of their previous forms that are lost during their evolution. Losing a body part isn’t really much of a trade off in my opinion. Now admittedly not all of the ultimates have a trade off, such as canonbolt and big chill just being colour swaps. BUT they’re usually not seen as very good ultimates as a result. I think there is still a lot of potential in the ultimates by giving more thought into what they do. Lodestar was an excellent example as he gains ferrofluid like abilities. The trade off I would have given would be to remove his regular long range magnetic powers against metal and only let him effect objects afflicted with his fero fluid, while the fluid itself gives extra abilities such as density shifting. Losing a seemingly crucial previous ability while adding new and interesting powers that still build off of the original. Again no hate whatsoever against any of the ultimate designs, I just personally really like the “lose one power, focus on another” aspect of the ultimates. Even if most of them didn’t lean into this too much.
I was thinking the same thing. Ultimate Lodestar losing his mouth is hardly a trade off. It might affect his ability to communicate but that’s about it. I also immediately thought that Ultimate Lodestar should lose his magnetic abilities in exchange for complete manipulation of his ferrofluid.
I never really understood the aspect of "trade of". It's not really necessary for evolution to happen. If a certain trait or ability tends to be disadvantageous for a species survivability, it slowly fades away. It necessarily doesn't have to be a "trade of". Bcz evolution is not a trade of machine. Moreover, there is no such mention of trade of being necessary in ultimate alien or omniverse. We simply just came with a rule which may or may not happen in evolution
I will say that Shocksquatch has become one of my favorite Aliens both in his original design and his Omniverse look. So seeing the Ultimate you came up with was actually immensely satisfying.
As always, I am LOVING the amount of thought and research that Ash puts into the concept art for each Ultimate Alien form! A lot of these aliens are difficult to think of ultimate forms for, and basing the visual design on solid concepts or “themes” is what makes these so cool!
I would've personally made Ultimate Lodestar lean into the design and weakness of his head being disconnected from the rest of his body and floating, basically making him a Ben 10 version of Monsoon from MGR:R. All of his limbs and head are separated, floating together on the vague shape of a humanoid. Additional, he could intentionally drop the magnetic charge on his body to make it seem like he's dead, luring his opponents closer, only to pop back up once they're close enough to surprise attack them. Additionally, his speed would be greatly increased due to essentially gliding everywhere all of the time, like how those super fast trains in Japan work. The trade-off would be that since all of his magnetic charge is going to keeping his body together, he can no longer control other metal objects unless they enter the range of his field, he can no longer project it outwards to do things like how he launched Kevin in the Omniverse premiere.
7:48, I just got an idea for U-Lodestar. Since he can freely control his body what if switching between his Titan & Obelisk forms gives him a unique power. In his Titan form he can use his Ferofluid to absorb different times of metals to increase the amount of fluid he has to work with and in his Obelisk form he essentially becomes a living Railgun, with his magnetic powers being able to turn a glob of Ferofluid into a hardened projectile which can be shot with the force of an artillery piece.
4:39 Idk if this character was also a bit of inspiration behind Rath's whips, but they remind me a lot of the chains Lobo uses in DC Comics, a character who's also got a loud personality and inspired by 80s media. Very cool!
My view on omniverse has really changed thanks to the Ink Tank. I couldn't appreciate it at first cause I was a huge fan of UAF growing up, and a lot of the obvious problems in the show. But looking back on it now, it was still a super good show and is incredibly underrated
I'd argue ultimate rath trades camouflage for defensive mimicry, tigers have stripes and orange fur for camouflage and ult. Rath has a giant scary face I think it'd probably be more for intimidation than for hiding.
Honestly, might be my favourite episode of the ultimates redesigned series so far! I absolutely loved every design here! Never would have expected Nanomech to get healing abilities! It's a fun idea, but it's a little terrifying to think how having your limb reattached by this ability would feel! Lodestar is my favourite alien, and I gotta say, Ash absolutely knocked his design out of the park! I especially like the design with the compass/top-like head, that one's just really cool to me! His new abilities are also pretty unique for an Ultimate Lodestar, cause I'm not sure if I've seen anyone give him ferrofluid powers. I love the choice of giving Ultimate Rath a slightly different body type from his default form! While I was somewhat expecting Ash to give Rath more new abilities, the fact that he remains relatively unchanged makes a lot of sense. The idea of giving Shocksquatch the ability to ride thunder clouds like Sun Wukong was honestly genius! I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who thinks giving Feedback arms made-up of wires is a cool idea! I love seeing that incorporated into a design! Ash definitely pushed Feedback's vibe of an alien that everyone thinks is cool further with his ultimate! His new abilities, I think, are undeniably very cool!
For Lord Star, my head canon was that the "head" was just a buch of metal that naturally gathers together at the "center" of his magnetic body and molds together to form what _looks_ like a head. Which would explain why his mouth doesn't move, in his first appearance at least.
Can't wait to see the Ultimate Andromeda Five. After that, I imagine that the next Ultimates will consist of Jury Rigg, Clockwork, Eatle, Fasttrack, and Chamalien.
Let me just say, I love how OV handled Albedo’s aliens, making them more dull in skin colour or more jagged and makeshift with the Ultimatrix (Ult. Echo Echo and the wires…). I typed then when you mentioned Albedo’s forms and how you did a little transition for Ult. Shocksquach. Keep it up O.R.Ash
I like to think that Ultimate Lodstar can change his own form thanks to the abilities he has. Making the two designs you made be viable. And can be done in an intresting way. Namely with how he can switch what he looks like mid battle and the way he looks before returning to being Ben is the appearance he'll take when going ultimate.
Cool Lodestar ideas. I actually thought of a similar one but with iron shavings. He would've been able to launch his claws to create cuffs around his opponents. I was also inspired by Magneto's prison escape in that one X-Men movie, and thought it would be cool if Ultimate Lodestar could just manipulate anything with even the slightest amount of iron in it.
Yes it was "Days of Future Past" I haven't seen any of the X-Men movies in a while so I only remember bits and pieces. That scene was just very memorable for obvious reasons.
A miss opportunity that I think would great for Shocksquatch is him having the thunder drums, similar to the ones the Japanese myth Raijin has. With those, he can enhance the cloud and not only create a large lightning bolt, but turn the a single cloud to a storm the size of the pacific ocean
Here’s my take on an Ultimate Lodestar. Colour Pallet: He changes from Yellow & Black to Juniper Green & Eggplant Purple. Design: His arch shoulders connect around his head with three little magnetic balls that surround his head to keep his head in place, like if his head is knocked off his body the three magnetic balls go to it to put it back in place. He looses his legs and levitates constantly, his arms are now detachable and duplicatable (Meaning he can clone his arms into endless more to magnetise certain materials that are out of reach)and finally he now has an extra claw on each hand with opposable thumbs to give him better dexterity. *Powers & Abilities* -Some of his original powers are advanced -Arm generation -Levitation -Enhanced Dexterity -High-Speed Flight -Metal Transmutation (He can now turn non metal objects into metal such as Wood) -Arm Detachment & Reattachment -Metallokinesis aka Metal Manipulation(Metal Absorption, Metal Constructs, Metal Detection, Metal Solidification & Metal Melting) -360° Vision -Supernatural Durability -Supernatural Strength -(His strength has increased by 70%) -Supernatural Endurance -Magnetism Immunity -Limited Bio-Electrokinesis -and can deploy rattle magnet-like drones that can implode metallic objects. Trade offs -No legs -He can’t generate force fields anymore as his durability has increased. -and he looses his Magno-Telekinesis in favour of his now detachable arms and personal rattle magnet drones. Let me know what you guys think?
That Powerline joke you had at the end had me busting out laughing! I2I is my favorite song from A Goofy Movie, as well as my all time favorite Disney song in general.
You know considering how I would think the evolve matrix works, I'm guessing it's based on the intelligence of the user. Classifying the evolution track for each creature based on the thinking process and what's their counterbalance. After all we don't know exactly if it's just fighting against other ultimates or the simulated war is against a certain type of creature or a variety of alternate simulation wars. I'm leaning to the alternate one because the idea makes more sense if you think of it like this? The first ultra matrix was created by azmuth knowing that vilgax wants the omnitrix to generate an army of different alien power sets I would think the in theory knowledge is based on the idea that what if: vilgax had succeeded and the formula is based on the idea of all these different aliens fighting each other basically a version of a galactic infinite war. Hence why a lot of them are already cybernetic in the first place because that's what vilgax did a lot and also arms races tend to lean towards mechanical then genetical. Considering the new version is based on albedos design, it would take to his fighting habits and tactics so here's Craven the hunter setup could be based on the idea that this is a more stealth version of wrath? While you just designed the version where Ben is more likely to be in charge with his ego being a bit more of a brash fighter style on showing off. Note it's been forever since I've watched that particular episode, and thanks to David taking off omniverse I can't rewatch it right now. Yes I'm salty I've always been salty at the guy! "Let me tell you something David saysoff why don't you pay your writers and why don't you listen to actual people who know how jobs work!"
I like the eyes on Canon Ultimate Rath's clothing, since it's most likely a reference to the fact that real life tigers have fake eyes to scare off other potential predators, but Wrestler Ultimate Rath is a real G, I tell you what
iIt’s never a bad time to watch my fellow Flat cap caffiene addict make super aliens. Ya know. In the case of most of these ultimates, I love em, I wish they were background canon, but that usually is where it ends. But ultimate Feedback feels so perfect that I could actively see him using ultimate Feedback if he had it, or see Albedo pulling this out on Ben solely because he’d have it. Maybe to mess with him.
with lodestar it could be more like the Gravattack where he has two stages, the obelisk being like the planet form, switching between the forms just adjusting if it has more power or range/reach since he gets more arms
Nanomech - Interesting design. I am not sure I like taking away his only attack method in the Wasp-like ability. The fact that he is a psuedo healer and disguise-based infiltrator, does apply some interesting utility. Rath - I sorta dig the Craven the Hunter look over this redesign. But I love the idea of the harpoon claws on the hands and back. Truly inspired idea. And hey, the fact that he can physically opporate with less oxygen is a bonus. Lodestar - HOLY CRAP! It'd hard to pick a favorite of the two designs. Shocksquatch - There is something missing in the final design that the early speed-draw version had. Mainly around his face. It just looks a little off. Beyond that, Sun Raijins powerset and appearance are fantastic. Feedback - Neat design. I would have leaned into a more Xurkitree leg design. But I dig it all the same. The powerset is nice. The blackout power is epic!
I think an alternate name for ultimate Shocksquatch could be "Stun Wu-kong", and "Power Jack" or "Cable Commando" for Ultimate Feedback. Also, in terms of Ultimate rules, many forget that the Ultimatrix simulates a warzone, so the ultimate forms are primarily designed for combat. The rules are 1. Color palette swap, 2. Increase in Attack and defense, 3. Power trade-off revolving around one of the alien's main abilities, and 4. Typically, there is also a size/shape alteration, with the Ultimate usually being bigger than the original.
Don't know if it was intentional but Blackout Blitz reminds me of the scene at the end of the Gurren Lagann movie where they clash and everything just goes dark for a few seconds. Maybe is just because Feedback has Simon's dub actor.
My immediate thought with Ultimate Rath was to go in the opposite direction, make him smarter. The idea of trading off control for more strength is cool, but Ben would probably never use it. By Ultimate Alien Ben is at least a marginally responsible person and going full Hulk (the comic character not the wrestler) bears a lot of risk that Ben would only do if there were no chance of collateral damage. My version of Ultimate Rath would be an expert combat strategist. Someone who could analyze an opponent and figure out exactly how to best fight them (think RDJ’s Sherlock Holmes fighting in the underground fight club). They’d be borderline as smart as Gray Matter or Brainstorm but specifically for combat. Also their claws would secrete a tranquilizing poison capable of knocking out most enemies. Also while not as angry as their unevolved selves when they are pushed to anger it severely tightens their focus which can be detrimental if an opponent can utilize it against them. The trade off is a reduction in physical strength and size, they’re still slightly bigger and stronger than humans (I’d say the ultimatrix version can lift more than a power lifter albeit with some strain) but they’re no longer as physically imposing.
I swear I enjoy these videos more than most things, they just sorta bring me back to sitting in the living room eating Coco pops and watching Ben 10 when I was younger
I had an idea for Ultimate Nanomech that moreso went into his adaptive abilities. Like he starts out as a little bug but as a fight goes on he slowly gets data and adapts and molts into a bigger new form. Like that cyborg cockroach in 2012 TMNT. He does not carry this adaptation into his later transformations, much like Upgrade once he turns back into Ben it is all wiped and he has to start fresh. Plus if an enemy overwhelms him before the adaptation kicks in, he can still be beaten. Your Rath idea does seem good even if the cables seem a bit too much like equipment but the wrestling image with the back cables does seem cool and I probably would've done something dumb like just give him more claws/spikes he can retract/extend. Lodestar being a Ferrofluid is cool and is probably more creative than just making him Magneto with Electromagnetism. Maybe he can take parts of his metallic body, solidify them, and then shoot them from his claws like a Railgun. In my idea, Shocksqutch could do more with EM fields since on his home planet the species' powers let them resist cosmic radiation. Basically, they have their own ozone/atmosphere they can manipulate going for more of a Tank build with defensive EM barriers. Feedback is perfect no arguments or better ideas, yours is great.
The ferofluid motif would actually allow Lodestar to shift his body into either of the forms. Perhaps they would allow different magnetic based abilities like coiling light for tractor beams or setting up a massive generator to allow for magnotaur-level fields capable of bending atoms. Man I love mixing the limits of science with biological entities, in some ways I'm jealous you get to work on concepts like this, but I am in no way an artist capable of actually bringing to life what I can imagine
I have never felt more excitement then right now knowing that ultimate andromeda aliens are on the way If we get a true Ultimate aggregor with it based on the new 5 ults as well I will cry
Would an ultimate sayin be super sayin 4 or something else? Stitch would be cool, I imagine it might have something to do with his cousins. How there’s a bunch of different stitch variants. Something similar to stitch that be cool to see an evolution of would be critters.
I love how one of Shocksquatch's beta designs has his back resemble a mountain like the one Sun Wukong was trapped under in Journey to the West. Very cool!
HSMFKSHDKS I wasn’t expecting a Sun Wukong reference!! That guy was my childhood hero (I grew up with the 1999 cartoon), so even though I’ve only recently gotten sort of into _Ben 10,_ it was a pleasant surprise. Especially since most of my brain rots lie with Chinese media (especially Chinese animation aka donghua) now, so this makes for a really fun link. 😆
For fun, if you had to give Ultimate Rath a new catchphrase to replace the "Let me tell you, something brother" what would the new catchphrase be. Personally, for me, it would either be The Rock's "If you smell" catchphrase or The Undertaker's "Rest in Peace". WDYT
The Obelisk rendition of the ultimate Lodestar reminds me so much of the game master dude from the original series when Ben and Kevin had to work together in that tournament
For Ultimate Shocksquatch I love the design but instead of weaker arms I'd give him a weakness where if Ben is sick or not concentrating enough he can become to sensitive to electricity and lose control. This could injure him or others if not handled. During this state he could end up quite confused because all his senses will be so sensitive.
So, when you get to more OV aliens, my idea for an Ultimate The Worst(Atrocian transformation) would be giving him abilities similar to Stoneheart from Miraculous.
I love the little names ash gives his ultimates it's a very ben the to do I think "bot fly" and "hostèl gato" might be my favorites but "twisted transistor" is also a contender
Ultimate FeedBack = PowerLine😊 "I've got myself a notion, a one i know that you'll understand. We set the world in motion, by reaching out for rach other's hands. "😊. Thank you for the Goofy movie reference 😊
I honestly have an idea for my own version of ULTIMATE RATH! I decided to remove some of his bulky body in order to make him faster and stealthier. He would also have a tail in order to clear his path, and to act like a grappling tool. His fur is more darker to hide himself. His claws now have multiplied and have the same tether. My version of Ultimate Rath has more patience due to his species learning about stealth in the evolution, also granting him 2 extra arms for doing more things quicker. This version of Ultimate Rath was inspired from Puss in Boots from Shrek and Batman. So in recap, he has Tether Claws, a grappling sweeper tail, camo-fur, more agile body, and less angry. In trade, he functions at night better, he's scared of cucumbers, and he has a major thing towards lazer pointers.
I swear, I want Ash and everyone else on the Ink Tank to head the next Ben 10 show. If there is one. All of these ultimate designs can go in and it would be amazing
Honestly would like to see a Ultimate "Human". As in if an alien transforms into a human and goes ultimate. Would love to see what direction would that go lol
I think a really good idea for Ult Shocksquatch would be giving him a staff. Like if he condensed energy between his horns and then grabbed it and suddenly had a staff made out of electricity. I feel like this is good because it leans into his sun wukong inspiration while also still making his arms a bit weaker than his legs. He could also theoretically change the length and size of the staff just like sun wukong can with his.
In defense for ult Rath it makes sense his species won't change much since they even clarify that they believe everything can be solved by hitting it so of course he gets a little more stack and a second claw to increase strength.
It’s probably also because of consistency with Ultimate Alien that not every ultimate is majorly different from their base form whether it’s by power or by appearance
Personally, before Ultimate Rath was introduced into Omniverse, I always thought that an Ultimate Rath should have the colorscheme of Rath’s haywire figure.
@@axelnilsson5124umm no, I like the idea of Ben being able to switch between the two Ultimate forms at will, Maybe have it so that the Titan form uses the new magnetic abilities for offensive attacks & defence, whilst the Obelisk form uses it for movement capabilities
I actually have a good idea for an ultimate “the worst”, where he becomes massive (as in four-arms size), semi-quadrupedal, the ability to jump massive distances, & be unbelievably heavy. He also gains two horns to ram people with his acne turning into small spikes, & his voice sounds like a high pitched auto-tuned version of Ben’s normal voice that gives him a long ranged sonic scream attack. My design philosophy for this idea: when your at rock bottom, you can only go up.
I was really hoping He'd stick to the earlier design He made for Nanomech being I think inspired by Vespiqueen from Pokemon which literally have Attack/Defend/and Heal Order as moves
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My personal theory as to why Ben had bonded so well with the Feedback form is that the donor Azmuth got that species DNA from was a lot like Ben, their similar personalities resonating, a bit cocky, a bit of a goofball, but no matter how hard he got knocked down he'd always get back up to be a hero for his people and his planet.
That's actually basically canon, if you stay in one form for an extended amount of time it tends to alter your personality, for example, the original Ben 10,000 spent most of his time as xlr8, and this was part of the reason that he was so serious, kinecelerans live in a fast paced society, so they tend to be impatient with those who are slower, in contrast, conductoids tend have the most similar personality to Ben himself
i think he was just op and got cocky
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OS B10K's personality had nothing to do with him being XLR8 most of the time
The donor's DNA is irrelevant, since the Omnitrix makes his own genome for the transformation. The aliens aren't a clone of the donor, they are their own being.
@@jvbon646 unless there's a glitch or the Omnitrix isn't running at full power, which Feedback was originally in the prototype so....
I like how nanomech is a healer with how ultimate aliens are supposed to have lived and evolved through a war zone the job of a medic is very important and makes sense for a alien to evolve to fill that need
I like the reasoning that apoplexians are already basically indestructible so you just bulked up Rath and gave him a ranged option, while also adding more of that wrestler flavor, very nice
The only drawback for him is that he's even more impulsive.
Though with the original ultimate rath, I really question why he gets more clothes, and how? They had an episode mentioning that rath is naked even for his own species.
Then again, NRG and his suit
@teneesh3376 I don't remember the episode, but 2 members of Rath's species were doing a political debate with another species, and both were wearing full outfits. So I guess for some it's simply preference to not appear naked around other species
@@thebonderman8811 but that just raises more questions. Like what does the Ultimate improve? Is the coat a literal part of rath's body?
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Since the Omnitrix makes the ideal specimen of a given species, Rath would be the equivalent of an Adonis walking around nude. Maybe the species prides itself in that form of physical beauty and don't mind?
Okay but why does Feedback's ultimate look more natural than he does outside of it? It feels like it actually took the Omnitrix's ability to make an outfit and USED that.
Dont know. Dont care. Just love it.
@@ghostavinci104THAT'S WHY HE'S EVERYTHING THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT THE GOAT
@@mafaki4155 Hell yeah!!!!!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I couldn’t agree more
It’s like a million years of war made the species develop clothes
The scorpion thing for Rath is genius. Even though it's never been done like an already hear him in his voice saying something like " Let me tell you something you annoying little pest, I don't like that you're over there, so get over here!"
Oh I can hear it in Rath's voice lmao and it's great.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 I read that in Rath's voice XD
@@kerosene-m5n me too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rath has got to be one of the best developed aliens in Ben's arsenal (barring Feedback, he the GOAT)
Then he proceeds to combo it with a nasty superplex!!!
Personally, I think giving Ultimate Nanomech biotech abilites that can both heal and make arms able to shapshift into weapons is genius
Its kinda copying upgrade though
I think it's kinda terrifying
@@danielkinuthia3670nano machines and weird alien slime can have pretty similar properties in fairness, they’re fairly interchangeable. I think ultimate Upgrade should be able to control biomass and creatures like the Venom symbiote
@@danielkinuthia3670 we got so many aliens with similar properties so whats the problem
I dont dig it
As soon as you explained Ultimate Wrath's back spikes, I fell in love. It's such a goofy idea that Ben would 100% come up with as soon as he started experimenting with the this form.
Also, Ben 10 now also has a Wukong reference, like how every moba game has to have a Wukong reference (probably according to a treaty by the United Nations or something).
Images of the ultimates:
Ult.Nanomech: 3:06
Ult.Rath: 5:47
Ult.Lodestar: 8:15
Ult.Shocksquatch: 10:20
Ult.Feedback: 12:42
This needs pinning.
@Twatman_21 Thanks for noticing my comment
I love toxic heel Rath. He's able to go *_"from the top ropes!"_* at any time he wishes!
I always did imagine ultimate Rath leaning even more into the personality-altering attributes of Rath. Like, he's really, _really_ powerful but you've gotta make sure to clear the area before you use him because he's more or less uncontrollable and prone to hurting anyone around him for the smallest of perceived slights.
Great work as usual!
Rath: Angry growl, turns to Gwen "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING GWEN TENNYSON, YOU'D BETTER CLEAR THE RING, CUZ RATH'S NOT HOLDING BACK ANYMORE!" Slaps the Omnitrix dial to go ultimate
I like the idea that even Rath knows his Ultimate form is dangerous and unpredictable, but doesn't care that much.
I like the Lodestar tradeoff of not being allowed to be near technology for the magnetism breaks everything but his control makes it so its just a somewhat small radius.
I'm glad he decided to do Feedback in this episode. Mostly, because I think that Feedback played an extremely important role in the show. He was more than Ben's go-to alien, he was Ben's idealized self. Feedback's death was supposedly the reason why Ben took off the Omnitrix before the events of Alien Force. It was because Ben learned to except his childhood failure and forgive himself that he got to use Feedback again.😊
Honestly with the "Toxic Wrestler" comment you made, i could imagine an ability for Ultimate Rath being that he has toxins that effect the opponent's cognitive skill and either dazes them or makes them more likely to fight, meaning wrath gets more of a challenge. This is referencing the Fact Cats have a Parasite called Toxoplasmosis gondii that effectively turns off their preys fear of them.
Rath used Swagger
Enemy is confused
interesting
I'd like to think he the moment he goes ultimate he just turns to android and cell saga Vegeta from Dragon ball, only with more unintentional cat puns.
Personally I would have gone the route of the berserker armor and have Rath turn mostly feral and mostly invulnerable (he still needs air and such), with the only exception being damage he causes to himself, making ultimate Rath essentially a game of chicken between his own unending wrath and whatever is left of the opponent.
I actually was considering adding something like this but I thought it would have been too similar to the Toxic fur that I gave Ult. Spidermonkey.
I think I prefer the obelisk form, I like the idea of more non-bipedal aliens in general. Really makes it look like something that does not, and can not have, come from earth.
My first thought on that form was Grob Gob Glob Grod from Adventure Time.
Quick ideas for the Andromeda 5:
Waterhazard becomes a centaur-like lobster with giant water firing claws, losing his surprising mobility given his tanky body. But this also massively improves his durability.
Terraspin turns giant sized so that he's on par with plain engines in size & can now fully perceive, manipulate and disperse nearby mana. Losing his ability to easily fly around, as he'd create a Magic tornado anytime he flys.
NRG melds with his armor not only stabilizing his radiation but any nearby radiation as well, with the trade off being that UNRG's stabilization is a conscious activity he has to keep up.
Armodrillo develops the ability to change different parts of his body into different construction equipment, like a wrecking ball tail or compactor legs. The trade off being his shell is now made of a soft malleable liquid that it used to make its equipment.
Amphibian's electrical biology makes him evolve into a living thought that can not only travel from brain to brain via at the speed of thought, but boosts his mind reading capabilities immensely. The trade off being he looses all of his offensive abilities, as he's basically a living thought that even if you had the power to remove him, Ultimate Amphibian would see your thought and come up with a way to avoid it.
All of your ideas 👩🍳 💋
Giant lobster
*Elden Ring Liurnia flashbacks*
@@andrewanderson4579 Read me like a book
I really like the NRG and Amphibian idea.
For armadrillo I had an idea he could create a vacuum in his forearm by retracting his piston up in order to pull in air from his hand then closing the opening and being able to use his piston to compress the air rapidly (either creating an air canon effect or shooting of his fist (which is ball shaped so would be like a wrecking ball, especially cause he’d most likely have a chain still attacking it to his arm).
Think kong gun from one piece.
The trade of would be he’s lose his hard body in favour of a more rubbery one so he can expand slightly when absorbing air. And he loses his drilling capabilities for the air canon.
@@felixowen2693 Thanks, I also though of Borsalino's insane speed when thinking of an Ultimate Amphibian concept. But then I remembered the story of Utgard Loki & was like, hey the speed of thought actually fits much better for Amphibian considering he was originally in Ben's head & can read minds.
Ultimate Lodestar is essentially the "F*cking magnets, how do they work?" meme in a nutshell.
Idk why, but Ultimate Rath could have been poisonous, like his skin secretes toxic sweat the more he fights. Makes his invulnerability more hard to work around, but could also give the downside he overheats fasters due to the poison not working like actual sweat or he's dangerous for anyone not hostile to be around. Still love the design Ash made tho.
Rath probably doesn’t sweat most aliens probably don’t as sweat is a way of cooling off while running
@@chaosenforcerdhm969Specially fur-covered aliens, one of the main theories regarding why humans body hair became thinner is because it makes sweating easier (humans are the only animal whose whole body sweats).
I feel like Ash’s Ultimate Rath should also have slower reaction time since he isn’t as nimble nor smart as he once was.
12:36 I actually lost it laughing when you named him Powerline and "eye to eye" from the Goofy Movie started playing.
Love the design, turning the singular green eye into what resembles cool glasses is a wonderful touch.
I always love the designs of these ultimate aliens, but one thing I have seen become more prominent is the lack of a proper “trade off”.
All of the best ultimates in UA are so good because of the thought that goes into their powers. Ultimate humungosaur can’t grow anymore, and ultimate echo echo can’t duplicate. Both are crucial parts of their previous forms that are lost during their evolution.
Losing a body part isn’t really much of a trade off in my opinion. Now admittedly not all of the ultimates have a trade off, such as canonbolt and big chill just being colour swaps. BUT they’re usually not seen as very good ultimates as a result.
I think there is still a lot of potential in the ultimates by giving more thought into what they do.
Lodestar was an excellent example as he gains ferrofluid like abilities. The trade off I would have given would be to remove his regular long range magnetic powers against metal and only let him effect objects afflicted with his fero fluid, while the fluid itself gives extra abilities such as density shifting. Losing a seemingly crucial previous ability while adding new and interesting powers that still build off of the original.
Again no hate whatsoever against any of the ultimate designs, I just personally really like the “lose one power, focus on another” aspect of the ultimates. Even if most of them didn’t lean into this too much.
yeah those were more mild inconveniences
I was thinking the same thing. Ultimate Lodestar losing his mouth is hardly a trade off. It might affect his ability to communicate but that’s about it. I also immediately thought that Ultimate Lodestar should lose his magnetic abilities in exchange for complete manipulation of his ferrofluid.
The trade off's are like minor inconveniences. Honestly don't mind that though.
I never really understood the aspect of "trade of". It's not really necessary for evolution to happen. If a certain trait or ability tends to be disadvantageous for a species survivability, it slowly fades away. It necessarily doesn't have to be a "trade of". Bcz evolution is not a trade of machine. Moreover, there is no such mention of trade of being necessary in ultimate alien or omniverse. We simply just came with a rule which may or may not happen in evolution
Like imagine evolution is actually a trading machine and you just trade your legs for lazer vision. That's just rediculous
I will say that Shocksquatch has become one of my favorite Aliens both in his original design and his Omniverse look. So seeing the Ultimate you came up with was actually immensely satisfying.
As always, I am LOVING the amount of thought and research that Ash puts into the concept art for each Ultimate Alien form! A lot of these aliens are difficult to think of ultimate forms for, and basing the visual design on solid concepts or “themes” is what makes these so cool!
Rath’s harpoon claws made me think of El Tigre, who can both launch his claws as projectiles, and launch his hands as grappling hooks.
I would've personally made Ultimate Lodestar lean into the design and weakness of his head being disconnected from the rest of his body and floating, basically making him a Ben 10 version of Monsoon from MGR:R. All of his limbs and head are separated, floating together on the vague shape of a humanoid. Additional, he could intentionally drop the magnetic charge on his body to make it seem like he's dead, luring his opponents closer, only to pop back up once they're close enough to surprise attack them. Additionally, his speed would be greatly increased due to essentially gliding everywhere all of the time, like how those super fast trains in Japan work. The trade-off would be that since all of his magnetic charge is going to keeping his body together, he can no longer control other metal objects unless they enter the range of his field, he can no longer project it outwards to do things like how he launched Kevin in the Omniverse premiere.
7:48, I just got an idea for U-Lodestar. Since he can freely control his body what if switching between his Titan & Obelisk forms gives him a unique power. In his Titan form he can use his Ferofluid to absorb different times of metals to increase the amount of fluid he has to work with and in his Obelisk form he essentially becomes a living Railgun, with his magnetic powers being able to turn a glob of Ferofluid into a hardened projectile which can be shot with the force of an artillery piece.
Imagine adding Ultimates onto already Ultimated forms. Recursive Ultimate.
Ultimate Ultimate Way Big
@@FloridusMan Ultramate Ultimate Waybig
There’s fan art of that everywhere.
Makes me wonder if they also has the recolor and trade off rule and same can be said about primal forms
@@FloridusManUUWB squashed Dagen like a bug using the moon
4:39 Idk if this character was also a bit of inspiration behind Rath's whips, but they remind me a lot of the chains Lobo uses in DC Comics, a character who's also got a loud personality and inspired by 80s media. Very cool!
“This my version of an ultimate feedback I call power line”
Really going for those nostalgia points aren’t you😂
My view on omniverse has really changed thanks to the Ink Tank. I couldn't appreciate it at first cause I was a huge fan of UAF growing up, and a lot of the obvious problems in the show. But looking back on it now, it was still a super good show and is incredibly underrated
I'd argue ultimate rath trades camouflage for defensive mimicry, tigers have stripes and orange fur for camouflage and ult. Rath has a giant scary face I think it'd probably be more for intimidation than for hiding.
It doesn't do much against bad guys but yea
2:06 okay but I love how the dude that got his armed healed was just like; “bro what the fuck? Did I just get saved by a fucking pixie?”
Ultimate nanomech:yes, yes you did.”
Honestly, might be my favourite episode of the ultimates redesigned series so far! I absolutely loved every design here!
Never would have expected Nanomech to get healing abilities! It's a fun idea, but it's a little terrifying to think how having your limb reattached by this ability would feel!
Lodestar is my favourite alien, and I gotta say, Ash absolutely knocked his design out of the park! I especially like the design with the compass/top-like head, that one's just really cool to me! His new abilities are also pretty unique for an Ultimate Lodestar, cause I'm not sure if I've seen anyone give him ferrofluid powers.
I love the choice of giving Ultimate Rath a slightly different body type from his default form! While I was somewhat expecting Ash to give Rath more new abilities, the fact that he remains relatively unchanged makes a lot of sense.
The idea of giving Shocksquatch the ability to ride thunder clouds like Sun Wukong was honestly genius!
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who thinks giving Feedback arms made-up of wires is a cool idea! I love seeing that incorporated into a design! Ash definitely pushed Feedback's vibe of an alien that everyone thinks is cool further with his ultimate! His new abilities, I think, are undeniably very cool!
For Lord Star, my head canon was that the "head" was just a buch of metal that naturally gathers together at the "center" of his magnetic body and molds together to form what _looks_ like a head.
Which would explain why his mouth doesn't move, in his first appearance at least.
5:24 this was the most smartest thing i ever heard omg
Can't wait to see the Ultimate Andromeda Five.
After that, I imagine that the next Ultimates will consist of Jury Rigg, Clockwork, Eatle, Fasttrack, and Chamalien.
Let me just say, I love how OV handled Albedo’s aliens, making them more dull in skin colour or more jagged and makeshift with the Ultimatrix (Ult. Echo Echo and the wires…). I typed then when you mentioned Albedo’s forms and how you did a little transition for Ult. Shocksquach. Keep it up O.R.Ash
these are all so freakin awesome!
Ash is a beast when it comes to Ultimates 💪
That's why he's the man
I like to think that Ultimate Lodstar can change his own form thanks to the abilities he has. Making the two designs you made be viable. And can be done in an intresting way. Namely with how he can switch what he looks like mid battle and the way he looks before returning to being Ben is the appearance he'll take when going ultimate.
Cool Lodestar ideas. I actually thought of a similar one but with iron shavings. He would've been able to launch his claws to create cuffs around his opponents. I was also inspired by Magneto's prison escape in that one X-Men movie, and thought it would be cool if Ultimate Lodestar could just manipulate anything with even the slightest amount of iron in it.
Days of Future Past? Is that the movie you speak of?
hmm xmen days of future past im pretty sure it's called.
Yes it was "Days of Future Past" I haven't seen any of the X-Men movies in a while so I only remember bits and pieces. That scene was just very memorable for obvious reasons.
A miss opportunity that I think would great for Shocksquatch is him having the thunder drums, similar to the ones the Japanese myth Raijin has. With those, he can enhance the cloud and not only create a large lightning bolt, but turn the a single cloud to a storm the size of the pacific ocean
Here’s my take on an Ultimate Lodestar.
Colour Pallet: He changes from Yellow & Black to Juniper Green & Eggplant Purple.
Design: His arch shoulders connect around his head with three little magnetic balls that surround his head to keep his head in place, like if his head is knocked off his body the three magnetic balls go to it to put it back in place. He looses his legs and levitates constantly, his arms are now detachable and duplicatable (Meaning he can clone his arms into endless more to magnetise certain materials that are out of reach)and finally he now has an extra claw on each hand with opposable thumbs to give him better dexterity.
*Powers & Abilities*
-Some of his original powers are advanced
-Arm generation
-Levitation
-Enhanced Dexterity
-High-Speed Flight
-Metal Transmutation (He can now turn non metal objects into metal such as Wood)
-Arm Detachment & Reattachment
-Metallokinesis aka Metal Manipulation(Metal Absorption, Metal Constructs, Metal Detection, Metal Solidification & Metal Melting)
-360° Vision
-Supernatural Durability
-Supernatural Strength -(His strength has increased by 70%)
-Supernatural Endurance
-Magnetism Immunity
-Limited Bio-Electrokinesis
-and can deploy rattle magnet-like drones that can implode metallic objects.
Trade offs
-No legs
-He can’t generate force fields anymore as his durability has increased.
-and he looses his Magno-Telekinesis in favour of his now detachable arms and personal rattle magnet drones.
Let me know what you guys think?
That Powerline joke you had at the end had me busting out laughing! I2I is my favorite song from A Goofy Movie, as well as my all time favorite Disney song in general.
My god the research and creativity you have to be able to create things like this are on a whole ‘nother level, it’s incredible!
You know today's gonna be a great day when a new Drawing Matrix video comes out
I concur
I agree with the gentlemen 👏
Same
Honestly my favorite series on this channel
True
You know considering how I would think the evolve matrix works, I'm guessing it's based on the intelligence of the user. Classifying the evolution track for each creature based on the thinking process and what's their counterbalance. After all we don't know exactly if it's just fighting against other ultimates or the simulated war is against a certain type of creature or a variety of alternate simulation wars. I'm leaning to the alternate one because the idea makes more sense if you think of it like this? The first ultra matrix was created by azmuth knowing that vilgax wants the omnitrix to generate an army of different alien power sets I would think the in theory knowledge is based on the idea that what if: vilgax had succeeded and the formula is based on the idea of all these different aliens fighting each other basically a version of a galactic infinite war. Hence why a lot of them are already cybernetic in the first place because that's what vilgax did a lot and also arms races tend to lean towards mechanical then genetical. Considering the new version is based on albedos design, it would take to his fighting habits and tactics so here's Craven the hunter setup could be based on the idea that this is a more stealth version of wrath? While you just designed the version where Ben is more likely to be in charge with his ego being a bit more of a brash fighter style on showing off. Note it's been forever since I've watched that particular episode, and thanks to David taking off omniverse I can't rewatch it right now. Yes I'm salty I've always been salty at the guy! "Let me tell you something David saysoff why don't you pay your writers and why don't you listen to actual people who know how jobs work!"
I like the eyes on Canon Ultimate Rath's clothing, since it's most likely a reference to the fact that real life tigers have fake eyes to scare off other potential predators, but Wrestler Ultimate Rath is a real G, I tell you what
100%
3:50 So going from Hogan to the Rock.
Can you smell what the rath is cooking
iIt’s never a bad time to watch my fellow Flat cap caffiene addict make super aliens.
Ya know. In the case of most of these ultimates, I love em, I wish they were background canon, but that usually is where it ends. But ultimate Feedback feels so perfect that I could actively see him using ultimate Feedback if he had it, or see Albedo pulling this out on Ben solely because he’d have it. Maybe to mess with him.
with lodestar it could be more like the Gravattack where he has two stages, the obelisk being like the planet form, switching between the forms just adjusting if it has more power or range/reach since he gets more arms
10:29 Oh Yeah Feedback!
You have no idea how long ive been waiting for Ash's version of an Ultimate Rath in particular!
I still love the fact that we've all collectively decided that the short term for Agregor is just Greg.
4:52 maybe instead of flesh maybe keratin whips, with the ropes being similar to braided hair.
Nanomech - Interesting design. I am not sure I like taking away his only attack method in the Wasp-like ability. The fact that he is a psuedo healer and disguise-based infiltrator, does apply some interesting utility.
Rath - I sorta dig the Craven the Hunter look over this redesign. But I love the idea of the harpoon claws on the hands and back. Truly inspired idea. And hey, the fact that he can physically opporate with less oxygen is a bonus.
Lodestar - HOLY CRAP! It'd hard to pick a favorite of the two designs.
Shocksquatch - There is something missing in the final design that the early speed-draw version had. Mainly around his face. It just looks a little off. Beyond that, Sun Raijins powerset and appearance are fantastic.
Feedback - Neat design. I would have leaned into a more Xurkitree leg design. But I dig it all the same. The powerset is nice. The blackout power is epic!
I’ve thought an ultimate Rath would have his personality flip. He becomes very calm and quiet and is a master martial artist.
now that is hilarious
I won't lie, the ultimate powers are genius but I can't help but feel like the concept art designs look better than the finished products.
I think an alternate name for ultimate Shocksquatch could be "Stun Wu-kong", and "Power Jack" or "Cable Commando" for Ultimate Feedback. Also, in terms of Ultimate rules, many forget that the Ultimatrix simulates a warzone, so the ultimate forms are primarily designed for combat. The rules are 1. Color palette swap, 2. Increase in Attack and defense, 3. Power trade-off revolving around one of the alien's main abilities, and 4. Typically, there is also a size/shape alteration, with the Ultimate usually being bigger than the original.
Don't know if it was intentional but Blackout Blitz reminds me of the scene at the end of the Gurren Lagann movie where they clash and everything just goes dark for a few seconds. Maybe is just because Feedback has Simon's dub actor.
My immediate thought with Ultimate Rath was to go in the opposite direction, make him smarter. The idea of trading off control for more strength is cool, but Ben would probably never use it. By Ultimate Alien Ben is at least a marginally responsible person and going full Hulk (the comic character not the wrestler) bears a lot of risk that Ben would only do if there were no chance of collateral damage.
My version of Ultimate Rath would be an expert combat strategist. Someone who could analyze an opponent and figure out exactly how to best fight them (think RDJ’s Sherlock Holmes fighting in the underground fight club). They’d be borderline as smart as Gray Matter or Brainstorm but specifically for combat. Also their claws would secrete a tranquilizing poison capable of knocking out most enemies. Also while not as angry as their unevolved selves when they are pushed to anger it severely tightens their focus which can be detrimental if an opponent can utilize it against them. The trade off is a reduction in physical strength and size, they’re still slightly bigger and stronger than humans (I’d say the ultimatrix version can lift more than a power lifter albeit with some strain) but they’re no longer as physically imposing.
I think you basically made it so Ultimate Rath is Batman in a bipedal cat's body, and no gadgets.
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I love these videos to death. But my only complaint however, is I wish these videos were longer lmao
I swear I enjoy these videos more than most things, they just sorta bring me back to sitting in the living room eating Coco pops and watching Ben 10 when I was younger
You have no idea how happy it makes me to hear that I can create that type of feeling for someone. 😊
With Rath, I gotta be honest I prefer his original ultimate form from the show visually, but I admit the new abilities you gave him where pretty cool
I had an idea for Ultimate Nanomech that moreso went into his adaptive abilities. Like he starts out as a little bug but as a fight goes on he slowly gets data and adapts and molts into a bigger new form. Like that cyborg cockroach in 2012 TMNT. He does not carry this adaptation into his later transformations, much like Upgrade once he turns back into Ben it is all wiped and he has to start fresh. Plus if an enemy overwhelms him before the adaptation kicks in, he can still be beaten.
Your Rath idea does seem good even if the cables seem a bit too much like equipment but the wrestling image with the back cables does seem cool and I probably would've done something dumb like just give him more claws/spikes he can retract/extend.
Lodestar being a Ferrofluid is cool and is probably more creative than just making him Magneto with Electromagnetism. Maybe he can take parts of his metallic body, solidify them, and then shoot them from his claws like a Railgun.
In my idea, Shocksqutch could do more with EM fields since on his home planet the species' powers let them resist cosmic radiation. Basically, they have their own ozone/atmosphere they can manipulate going for more of a Tank build with defensive EM barriers.
Feedback is perfect no arguments or better ideas, yours is great.
When I heard you say Ult Feedback's name, I was like 'Not bad' Then the music hit and I started laughing. Perfect choice.😂😂
Goofy Movie was great
The ferofluid motif would actually allow Lodestar to shift his body into either of the forms. Perhaps they would allow different magnetic based abilities like coiling light for tractor beams or setting up a massive generator to allow for magnotaur-level fields capable of bending atoms.
Man I love mixing the limits of science with biological entities, in some ways I'm jealous you get to work on concepts like this, but I am in no way an artist capable of actually bringing to life what I can imagine
I love how at the start of the feedback sketch he almost gave him powerline's hair
lol I just caught that one.
7:10 good call with Thero Fluid. That stuff is my new obsession.
I have never felt more excitement then right now knowing that ultimate andromeda aliens are on the way
If we get a true Ultimate aggregor with it based on the new 5 ults as well I will cry
6:40 That ferrofulid would be a sick ability. It'll be like having a logia fruit power from one piece
5:46 Ultimate GARFIELD!
Ok that Shocksquatch idea is amazing. Really nice way to give him something unique over the tons of other electric choices.
Anyone else hoping we get an Ultimates Overhauled on other aliens from fiction? I would kill to see an Ultimate Stitch
Or a Ultimate Dalek? Or Marvin the Martian lol
Would an ultimate sayin be super sayin 4 or something else?
Stitch would be cool, I imagine it might have something to do with his cousins. How there’s a bunch of different stitch variants.
Something similar to stitch that be cool to see an evolution of would be critters.
Or a ultimate Gremlin! Or mogwai
I love how one of Shocksquatch's beta designs has his back resemble a mountain like the one Sun Wukong was trapped under in Journey to the West. Very cool!
HSMFKSHDKS I wasn’t expecting a Sun Wukong reference!!
That guy was my childhood hero (I grew up with the 1999 cartoon), so even though I’ve only recently gotten sort of into _Ben 10,_ it was a pleasant surprise. Especially since most of my brain rots lie with Chinese media (especially Chinese animation aka donghua) now, so this makes for a really fun link. 😆
interesting.
Rath is my favorite Ben 10 Alien. Thank you for making my day by making his ultimate form design.
Dang, these just keep getting better and better! Great work again Ash!
Dude, Rath’s ring launching idea is brilliant. Amazing work as always Ryan!
For fun, if you had to give Ultimate Rath a new catchphrase to replace the "Let me tell you, something brother" what would the new catchphrase be. Personally, for me, it would either be The Rock's "If you smell" catchphrase or The Undertaker's "Rest in Peace". WDYT
"If you can smell me, rest in peace!" -Ultimate Rath
CAN YOOOOOOOOOOOU SMELL WHAT THE RATH IS COOKING!!🤨
The Obelisk rendition of the ultimate Lodestar reminds me so much of the game master dude from the original series when Ben and Kevin had to work together in that tournament
13:00 Okay Greg.
I like how you gave feedback from one eye to two eyes in a doc ock type visor for his ultimate form.
For Ultimate Shocksquatch I love the design but instead of weaker arms I'd give him a weakness where if Ben is sick or not concentrating enough he can become to sensitive to electricity and lose control.
This could injure him or others if not handled. During this state he could end up quite confused because all his senses will be so sensitive.
1:44
As soon as he said “that work better” I just KNEW what he was doin
Love how you went with the og wolverine colours for rath
So, when you get to more OV aliens, my idea for an Ultimate The Worst(Atrocian transformation) would be giving him abilities similar to Stoneheart from Miraculous.
I love the little names ash gives his ultimates it's a very ben the to do I think "bot fly" and "hostèl gato" might be my favorites but "twisted transistor" is also a contender
Love the new ultimates in this episode, Ash. Absolutely knocked it out of the park, as usual. Cant wait to see the ultimate Andromeda 5.
The idea all the ultimates are just duking it out in a special section of omnitrix city is awesome
Ultimate FeedBack = PowerLine😊
"I've got myself a notion, a one i know that you'll understand. We set the world in motion, by reaching out for rach other's hands. "😊. Thank you for the Goofy movie reference 😊
AMAZING FILM
I honestly have an idea for my own version of ULTIMATE RATH!
I decided to remove some of his bulky body in order to make him faster and stealthier. He would also have a tail in order to clear his path, and to act like a grappling tool. His fur is more darker to hide himself. His claws now have multiplied and have the same tether. My version of Ultimate Rath has more patience due to his species learning about stealth in the evolution, also granting him 2 extra arms for doing more things quicker. This version of Ultimate Rath was inspired from Puss in Boots from Shrek and Batman.
So in recap, he has Tether Claws, a grappling sweeper tail, camo-fur, more agile body, and less angry. In trade, he functions at night better, he's scared of cucumbers, and he has a major thing towards lazer pointers.
We were so close to having a full video without an alien losing their legs.
or limbs lol
I swear, I want Ash and everyone else on the Ink Tank to head the next Ben 10 show. If there is one. All of these ultimate designs can go in and it would be amazing
Honestly would like to see a Ultimate "Human". As in if an alien transforms into a human and goes ultimate. Would love to see what direction would that go lol
Evolved humans look no different from regular humans
Anybody else notice the acidental spider man reference with Rath Launching himself with the things that shoot out of a partvof his hands
I think a really good idea for Ult Shocksquatch would be giving him a staff. Like if he condensed energy between his horns and then grabbed it and suddenly had a staff made out of electricity.
I feel like this is good because it leans into his sun wukong inspiration while also still making his arms a bit weaker than his legs.
He could also theoretically change the length and size of the staff just like sun wukong can with his.
Ultimate Nanomech is probably my favorite ultimate you’ve made. Its so unique and looks so cool
In defense for ult Rath it makes sense his species won't change much since they even clarify that they believe everything can be solved by hitting it so of course he gets a little more stack and a second claw to increase strength.
It’s probably also because of consistency with Ultimate Alien that not every ultimate is majorly different from their base form whether it’s by power or by appearance
Personally, before Ultimate Rath was introduced into Omniverse, I always thought that an Ultimate Rath should have the colorscheme of Rath’s haywire figure.
7:35 Maybe Ben can swap between Titan form and Obelisk form at will possibly?
Or maybe one of them is further evolved than the other
@@axelnilsson5124umm no, I like the idea of Ben being able to switch between the two Ultimate forms at will, Maybe have it so that the Titan form uses the new magnetic abilities for offensive attacks & defence, whilst the Obelisk form uses it for movement capabilities
I actually have a good idea for an ultimate “the worst”, where he becomes massive (as in four-arms size), semi-quadrupedal, the ability to jump massive distances, & be unbelievably heavy. He also gains two horns to ram people with his acne turning into small spikes, & his voice sounds like a high pitched auto-tuned version of Ben’s normal voice that gives him a long ranged sonic scream attack. My design philosophy for this idea: when your at rock bottom, you can only go up.
So basically the Rhino or Juggernaut from Marvel?
I was really hoping He'd stick to the earlier design He made for Nanomech being I think inspired by Vespiqueen from Pokemon which literally have Attack/Defend/and Heal Order as moves
I like the idea of Ultimate Loadstar being able to swap between the forms. With titan being more physicaly capable, but obelisk has stronger magnets.