Human growth hormone (HGH) for longevity: Does it slow aging? | The Peter Attia Drive Podcast
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I had a failed fusion at L5-S1 in 2011 at 31 years old. By 2012 my doctor said the fusion did not fuse, referred me to a pain clinic, took me off work and had me apply for disability. I could not live on the tiny disability check and put all the money making on my wife’s shoulders. I was and continue to do bodybuilding time to time. So my gym connect said he knew an AIDS patient that got like 32iu of Serostim a day and needed money. Think I paid like $200 for over 100iu and took it at 3iu a day for 3 months. When I went back to the surgeon and got a MRI and CAT scan with contrast he couldn’t believe it had fused. He still said no leg or ab training. I was built funny with big upper and little lower body so I broke with his rules and started squats and deadlifts. Needles to say I’m pain free and show up the young bucks at the gym and I’m 43. So I’m a believer in hgh.
Amazing story, take a look at my story I just posted about. Absolutely changed my life. Stories like ours need to be HEARD!!!
They had recommend bone fusion on my ankle, thank god I was able to dodge that procedure as it may be the worst fusion surgery out of all of them
I shattered my ankle into literally 50 pieces, compound on both sides, tib/fib fracture with separation, and torn MCL. Had the best orthopedic surgeons arguably in the country... was told I would walk with a limp for the rest of my life, which was a blessing considering amputation was on the table. Ran a very aggressive peptide protocol of TB 500/BPC 2Iu of HGH, and Test/NPP and a few low/short Anavar/Primo cycles with my TRT, and my entire team was dumbfounded at how much my body healed after the natural state. MRI showed cartilage, regrowth, tendon/ligament and joint repair, and possible bone growth. To say it was a lifesaver would be an understatement. It's unfortunate that these treatments are not more readily available.
Can you tell me more about it? I suffer from bone and cartilage damage in my ankle. Can you tell me about the dosage and duration? PLEASE!
Side effects:
Improved cholesterol
Decreased body fat
Increased lean muscle
Improved sense of well being
Increased telomere length
BAD STUFF FOLKS!!! PROCEED WITH CAUTION 😂😂
Don't leave out Increased head size, increased size of internal organs aka palumboism
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You’re definitely not talking about anti-aging dosages.
@user-cf2px2ko8y How about educating yourself!That happens when people are abusing hgh.
@petercsigo3314 look at Joe rogan before and after pics... he has been taking minimal doses of hgh under doctor's supervision. Another side effect seems to be over sensitivity... lol... put on a tampon dude
@@petercsigo3314Thank you!❤
I think the guy said it, that what is good for older men, may not be good for younger men. I think the problem now a days is men in their 20’s and early 30’s are on TRT, Hgh and other PED’s. Have they been tested prior to doing so? I will be 52 this year. I don’t think I would try these things in my twenties. Now I actually need them. Also, I don’t buy into how the hormones extending our lives. I think it’s more about improving what life I have remaining.
56 and these are my views. Been on testosterone for five years and it was transformative, mainly for psychology and secondary for physiology. The supplementation has concentrated my life satisfaction and enthusiasm.
When I broke my leg, I took HGH, testosterone, Robitussin, and ate chipotle every day. My leg healed in two weeks.
Definitely the chipotle 😂
Chipotle most dangerous for sure 💨
Chipotle is saving lives
Surprised you didn't get gangrene from the Chipotle.
Haha haa haa😂😂😂😅😅
Id rather live happier and live till 70 than geriatic and aging at 99
Until you turn 70 then...
@@fullmetalfreedomHe's got a point you don't.
@@petercsigo3314no he doesn’t. This is typical naivety of being young. You will ALWAYS care about the present. Lots of guys have done things saying I don’t care once I’m 40 life doesn’t matter anyway I want being young to be good, but they massively regret it later
@@petercsigo3314I find your comment so odd. He clearly had a point. That when you turn 70, you will care
We need to differentiate between HGH and GHRH and GHRP. If growth hormone peaks in our twenties and declines 15% every decade, we can stimulate it’s release (and not daily like mentioned) in amounts 100-200 mcg 1-2 times per day also depending on the peptide (not sure where the 1 mg dose came from). In terms of longevity-growth hormone decline is one of the contributing factors for poor sleep and impacts deep sleep. And we know that lack of sleep is one of the contributing factors for neurodegenerative conditions.
Go ahead and take GHRP 2 twice a day and your pantry will be empty lol.
I also heard that too much sleep can cause mental decline...what to believe??
I tell u from personal experience what causes accelerated aging: a very low hormone profile. I am on a low dose of DHEA, in hopes it will raise my hormone levels.🤞
There is data to suggest earlier time restricted eating is better for longevity. Meaning skipping dinner is better than skipping breakfast, since insulin reduces growth hormone perhaps GH is pro longevity if aligned with circadian rhythm.
@@bridgepoc I can't fast bc I'm trying to gain lost weight and muscle mass..what to do?
I think its pretty clear that the use of growth hormone for anti aging and longevity is not going to kill any patients or radically increase their chance or death, I noticed Peter mentioned this in the first part of the clip. GH and other hormones' that ones body can produce naturally and we should all strive and hope to increase our own production endogenously by use of best practices like sauna and deep sleep which both trigger strong releases of GH, however, if your an older person and are struggling with health, adding in GH would certainly help, the problem is, just like adding in other external hormones, does your body shut down or decrease its own production of some of these vital hormones if an patient decides to start supplementing with them exogenously via shots, creams or oral supplements?
This is why young, healthy people should not all of a sudden start adding in anabolic steroids or sex hormones, sure it would be nice if I had ramped up or increased testosterone production but that's also gonna slowly and negatively impact my body's own natural production down the line. Any red blooded, muscle wanting American male would love the benefits of more T or GH as these are the super human mega pump hormones that add to our quality of life, but most guys should focus on ways to naturally increase or maintain their own levels vs switching to outside shots or injections.
Thank you
We don't know that, people could be dying from it earlier and you would not know it because their death could be labelled as something else
@@thomasjust2663 well, by definition if people died from rHGh early we’d see it labeled as augmenting or causing the cause of death. But, by your logic people who die from a “labeled” cause of death of cerebrovascular disease but truthfully the diet and genes, the environment, the psychosocial factors, and lifestyle habits. Someone taking a statin and a BP med will still die a bit earlier but it’s not because of those meds, which likely extended their lifespan relative to forgoing medication to prevent cerebrovascular disease. Moreover, taking any medication or supplement that isn’t “obvious” as a proximate or direct cause of death can be subject to the same condemnation you apply here. Now, for patients I am involved with, rhGH usually improves physical health - but not totally restores the dysfunctions of the body’s systems secondary to their anterior pituitary damage (hence the need to replace the growth hormone for life), but significantly helps, and likewise I find they report general improvement in reintegration and adjustment to a more balanced cognitive and emotional capacity, often begin to thrive in social and vocational occupations, and have stronger recovery outcomes after their disabling brain trauma, spinal cord injuries, and acquired Neurocognitive Disorders or neurodegenerative disease states and diagnoses. Will it single handly slow or prevent aging in a human without any age related brain degenerative progressions, or enhance wellness in a healthy young person? We don’t know because that is not medicine at the time with the current parameters of any medical model today. But because people are using this anyway, it’s safe to say no, it will not likely be a magic single dimensional tool to mitigate the effects of aging though of the countless ways we decline due to aging some of these systems’ pathways and functional processes will be restored or maintained. If you’re not deficient in growth hormone, though, you aren’t likely going to benefit from exogenous rhGH and instead opting for your endogenous growth hormone is clearly a easy and cheaper option with higher efficacy. As Gh declines, sure, might as well replace to normal physiological levels but careful how and when you dose it because you can only replace the level pulsed in any given day but not the sensitive rhythms and ultradian clocked frequencies of the pulsatile secretions that are aligned to countless downstream effects also highly functional when kept in their own natural rhythm. So, maybe you want to have a healthier and more efficient harvest of farm crops. Does taking them in doors and blasting the artificial light mimicking sunlight itself but applied in irregular intervals, watering and feeding when you schedule instead of when they’re chemically stimulated to enter opportune phases to do so naturally as they prepare to enter definite stages of growth and development and reproduction expected intrinsically by their own botanical chemical messengers? You might optimize the growth stage you want as a farmer but sure as shit sticks to shoes the plant is gonna be thrown off it’s own cadence and live out a life altered from its natural one. Maybe that is better for it but I suspect even if it is we simply wouldn’t have the sensitivity to modulate the factors for health and life in the plant with the precision it would have on its own in the natural setting.
Lesson is to stay away from “replacing” a incredibly dynamic and complex rhythm of Gh secretions and feedback loops in a body that is doing this just fine on its own. In a diseased or deficient state, replacing the hormones or biologics like growth hormone or even insulin, thyroid, etc., is just feeding the body not replacing the balance and clock it is optimally set and dependent upon.
It's been like five times I subscribed to this channel and I never did unsubscribe even once.
I would never miss a video from Dr Atta, even accidentally. Have anyone experienced the same problem?
could be different google accounts in your browser?
@@michaelnicholls1804 I know what you mean but I only watch UA-cam channel through the app.
Ya,
No discussion of Dr. Fahy's work using intermittent growth hormone administration to regrow the thymus? This would almost certainly have an anti-agingj effect.
That study along with others, you are correct but remember Peter believes in the vaccine and also believes in not eating, skipping meals and other unhealthy practices yet he has a large following of idiots.
I tell ya ya can really see the guys on nfl who is pumping themselves up.they have really big muscles on their cheeks and their foreheads even have muscles.rule of thumb if their forearm is knotted or bigger than your bicep they are on something.
Are there any good videos about Dr Fahy's work on that?
As a 62 year old male user of gh. I have had fantastic results with it. In combination with exercise and diet. I have had five spinal surgeries and two brain surgeries. Could not walk for several years. Much better now.
BPC-157, Ipamorelin/CJC-1295, HGH for 8 weeks post orthopedic surgery should be considered. Also, eating in a calorie surplus with increased fat and protein should be considered post surgery combined with increased exercise.
Wish there was more grown up discussion about this.
based on what? there are zero clinical trials. just nonsense bro science.
@@josher3436 look up Leo Rex from Leo and Longevity and also Tony Huge from Tony Huge Uncensored on UA-cam.
What does the increased calories/fat do to help post surgery? Just give your body extra energy to heal?
What about tb500 or other peptides
regenerates Thymus gland. Major effector of the adaptive immune system aging. T cell incompetence is a major cause of age-related morbidity and mortality!!! Therefore, the goal is to reverse thyme involution. Mortality rate goes up and immune system function goes down as we age because our Thymus degenerates with time. After puberty it already starts shrinking and making less naïve T cells. And that is why you see cancer in people over 50 but not in kids. That’s why people die of the flu in old age but not children.
Mainly 😎
You should invite Dr Thierry Hertoghe in the podcast, specially related to bio-identical HRTs (Growth hormone etc).
There is no sincere science behind bio identical hormone therapy. It's a marketing gimmick.
@@breadpitt4920 where did you get your medical degree?
Can’t stand Thierry Hertoghe. Arrogant overrated doctor
I like big concepts. When things get too molecular I just wonder if the researchers are off in silly land. For me its simple, if aging is an atrophy disease and it is, anything that arrests this should help our prolong our eventual demise! There have been some incredible things reported for severe head/ nervous system damage using Growth hormone.
I want quality of life not longevity
Being healthy longer translates into quality of life, since your last years you will be suffering if you are in bad health, nothing to do w hgh tho dont know shit about that.
I don't get the "confounders" point. This is a case where singling it out doesn't necessarily matter. If you are willing to take HGH, you also do other things - yes, we can't see necessarily it as an independent to study, but we can see that the people aren't giving the "dying signal" Dr. Attia is asking about. At a minimum, the negative effects therefore wouldn't be big. Again, we already know that there is nothing in the world that is ALL benefit, so this is helpful to know, since it suggests that HGH therefore isn't crazy dangerous.
This is a question I (56M) have been researching (layman) for 20 years. We all want to prolong our vital years, and why not start better living through chemistry if one could? But, there are a lot of wive's tales. I appreciate this professional discussion to disabuse me of some of my preconceptions and discuss the state of consensus on this topic.
My take : U should do what u can to promote the natural production of GH, not injecting it. Injections or pills could promote the wrong type growth, namely cancer cells!
Does HGH promote tumor growth in someone who has a genetic mutation for cancer?
I believe so. If you have the cancer cells, it will exacerbate it.
Yes
Everyone has cancercells. Just fix your diet and go on semen retention and eat 95% local grassfed animal products. Then you have nothing to worry about.
They don’t know for sure but it’s not worth the risk
You need to take dosage into account, any answer to this question saying yes or no is irrelevant. Please always pay attention to the finer details, dosage needs to be talked about.
Of course the females who didn't use gh lived longer. They didnt do shit. We need to consider quality of life not just length.
Can’t believe we’re still having this conversation 20 years on 🤦♂️
Does that mean anecdotally we now know it’s safe? Just started taking it so schooling up
@@YaBasicMillenial read about extended fasting and growth hormones. Really great information.
Is it possible to cycle hgh or do you need to stay on it forever? How would your body start producing it again if you were older and taking hgh and then stopped? Also, does it make your ears and nose bigger at physiological doses?
im not an expert and this is not medical advice, as far as I know you need to cycle hgh because otherwise your body is going to become desnsitised to insulin and you will end up with diabetes
If you stop HGH, your pituitary gland will start producing HGH again.
Great question!
Please get Dr. Greg Fahy on the podcast!
Agreed! I first heard of Dr. Fahy from Peters you tube videos, since then Peter has rejected his studies and never mentions him in discussions such as this.
Yes, Exactly!!!!
As with most hormones, it is not the question of a "level" but of a pattern over the time: How does the hormonal levels change in the course of a day, what is the variability.
Just supplementing a hormone once a day may just completely miss the point...
So the reason why you inject gh daily is because of how it’s naturally produced in your body during a circadian cycle. It’s the optimal way to use gh and testosterone however with testosterone it’s fine to have weekly or even bi weekly injections. However for the gh you will do that daily but on a daily basis the levels don’t fluctuate that much the only way it would read higher would be if you tested right after deep sleep when you secreted but even then it won’t fluctuate all that much. It’s more of a steep climb where each week you might bump your IGF-1 up each week by 10 or something. That’s why they say to see the most noticeable results you’ll have to wait until the 6 month mark. These things are a long process unless your a hyper responder so worrying about your daily fluctuations in your hormone levels is irrelevant. You want to take blood work every 3 months to gauge and is what a good doctor will make you do.
One more thing: Men get a much bigger bang and are willing to trade longevity for quality. Women peak so much earlier, it wouldn't be worth it, as their window of peak is much, much earlier in life and their reproductive window is a reflection of that (ie women over 30 are already relatively much older in the sense that their SMV is plummeting at that point, especially relative to men). I don't think that most who are interested in HGH are interested in it as a longevity drug.
I never thought I would make it to my mid-50s. I'll trade off a few years for rolling back the clock.
Body seeks balance, upsetting that balance cant be good. Weve seen it before, theres a lot of chemicals out there that make you feel like a million $ that also carry a very negative consequence associated with that balance weve upset by taking that chemical. Consider those "are you natty or not" videos. See how the protect their usage. What difference is there with any other addiction ?
No info on this video
Very informative video. The answer is " We dont know that "
you should have a real expert on growth hormone and longevity on the show not asking someone who does not prescribe this
Dr.s haircut alone tells me what I need to know
Pity in your study you don’t involvee Pro bodybuilders like myself. i used Gh for years. i don’t think it is as good as it is made out to be. I think testosterone therapy is far superior for overall health for stronger libido and energy and for cognitive funciton. i convinced my docotr to admistinster testosterone to my 83 old Mother and wow what a difference. it was a very small amount and it was a life changer. I myself take testostereon all year round as continue to train x 5-6 a week . Along with that i take nandrolone decanoate for joint . ❤
I just always wondered, those who cant anymore produce own test bc of TRT, i assume they also wont produce semen alongside erection? If that so and one takes test, can he produce semen, even if semen is infertile. How is sex life for those ppl?
@@SuperKREPSINIS HCG along side testosterone Therapy maintains fertility.
Same here. Testosterone and nandrolone are a life saver for us older lifters.
What were the positive effects for your mother?
What are the effects of nandrolone for you guys? Never really read about it at all, only heard the name.
Loved this video! Intriguing!
Only 120k subs?!?! Missing out, folks.
I wish they would do laboratory studies on mice taking this drug, since mice only live a few years anyhow. It might be interesting to find out any dangerous changes it might cause over time, specially with the elderly.
"I don't know" podcast
I appreciate the honesty.
What do you think of growth hormone secretagogues?
My docs been using them to heal me from a chronic illness and man has it been great, I don't want to go off of them
Wut 1 do you use?
Please explain your doctor's recommended protocol & likewise your personal results.
@@anthonyvenegas8299 i use mk-677 but i mix it with rad-140 sarm, well i cam say that from mk-677 i look damn young, after two weeks my face skin started to glow and after a month of usage i look healthy AF, like AF and im 30 yra old. My skin smooth, nice tone, glowing, ppl telling me that i look way younger and helthyer
@@SuperKREPSINIScan you send the specs and origins where I can obtain some of these sarms and serms & polypeps
@@SuperKREPSINISlol.. a month later ey?
You all gone crazy
IGF1 is seemingly not increased in people when fasting eventhough HGH is rasied this way, but how is the IGF1 response in the aging people when injected?
Great ?
@@anthonyvenegas8299 Dopamine is a precursor to HGH, but how its relationship or inovolvement in reg., direct or indirect, to IGF-!?
This seems to could have a great influeince even despite how musclemass is affected, eventhough increased musclemass likely is to influence dopamine positively, which this way around then is ... great! BUT if it is not appreciated by the people in treatment or tested, it may be of little to no sig. influence.
Confounding variables!😊
Please talk about estrogen in women, what are your thoughts?
Peter Attia does have info on this on his channel. :)))
What about acromegaly. What about endogenous vs exogenous.
taking HGH for nagging tennis elbow. have been taking it for around 10 days to no discernable effect---let alone one worth the cost. one thing that I have stopped altogether is doing arms...it's been over three weeks. I feel like I've been able to maintain my gains, at least moreso than I thought I would. Does hgh along w a high protein diet help at all with this? planning a big move and sort of feel like I'll regret getting more. thanks in advance
This Dr NEEDS to read multiple studies on extended fasting and it’s various effects on the body.
He's already spoken about this extensively. It's kind of his main thing.
No need to study about extended fasting, just look at people in Africa and war torn countries like Yemen. It causes malnutrition.
@@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626 STARVATION and FASTING are NOT THE SAME THING. Clearly you did zero due diligence. 🙄
@@tajr.2650 fasting is basically depraving yourself from foods, in other words self starving.
i'm already a very active and pretty skinny hardgainer....and fasting fucked me up
I get 8 iu prescribed of Omnitrope....wish Dr Attia would talk about injecting at night vs morning. I was told by my doc to do it at night but keep reading that people who aren't deficient should inject in the morning
Are you still doing night?
8 IU per day? There must be significant medical diagnostic for a RX dose that high. Any side effects? Been on 2IU 5x a week for 15 months
yeah still at night...haven't found anything to suggest otherwise
@@samoconnor863oh and no...I don't think so? I do my bloodwork 2 times a year...everything looks great. Only side-effect is my empty wallet lol
H E L P - I'm 80, have congestive heart failure & high blood pressure, both controlled with medication, but I'm weak and tire easily when I'm not sitting down.. I ordered genf 20 plus today because a friend raves about how wonderful and healing it is. Is it safe for me to take. Does it interact with any meds or supplements? Yes, you'll say ask my doctor. BUT I'd like to know what do you know from all your studies regarding safety. .... please.
Athletes die all the time. Its just not publicized nor is there a database for it. Bodybuilders die all the time but again same thing.
people in general die all the time
Any specific links to the studies supporting HGH in healing from orthopaedic surgeries? Cheers
I believe so.
I want HGH what would be best for me as a female ? I’m in NSW Australia near Sydney where can I get it from?
I've been on trt for about 17 years do to legitimate medical conditions and I'm wondering if it would be beneficial for because I would bet it's very low and I plan on asking my urologist, it makes sense to me because of my other hormone problems and I have other medical problems that are in my opinion linked
Iv been interested in GH as I have horrendous brain fog thst never dissipates coupled with depersonilisation disorder. Iv researched GH can possibly help with this. Is there any validity in these claim.
I suffered from the same thing. TRT completely eliminated it.
Semen retention
@@RandomFactsPressDefinitely not!
Many 3 day Fasts for 1-2 years (20+) after controlling your blood sugar and being keto for a few months so your body adapts. Helped tremendously with similar symptoms. I supplemented with ketone salts, caffeine (tea) and electrolytes which made it fairly easy. Bonus is this will also improve your natural GH. Don’t go over 3 day fasts as you can start to loose muscle mass. The sweet spot is 48-72 hrs which will renew myeline sheath and clear out microglia cells which become inflammatory once activated in the brain and very hard to clear out without fasting.
@@MichaelMerritt foodfast, juicefast, waterfast, dryfast...what kind of fast?
5:11 yeah im allready taking metphormin and curious about hgh to buikd a better body
I've been using 1iu eod for skin, has anyone tried 2iu and seen unwanted bone growth?
I have used it only for 2 months at a time, didn't see any difference in my skin. I was also just one 1 iu a day. It's very expensive for not much (if any) difference in skin. Have you seen positive changes in your skin?
@@Corrans absolutely
Well, Arnold is still living, he did HGH forever!!
Will this hormone grow my hair?
it grew back hair I had lost, but in conjunction with Rogain.
Cancer and HGH? Growth Cancer? Is there a possibility of ignition of Cancer with HGH?
So this scientist basically answers none of Dr Attila’s questions and offered nothing of value to the HGH conversation.
“Double-click?” Wow! That’s is definitely an age-defining reference. 😊
They talking about GH deaths, but don’t talk about bacon or pizza death cases 😅
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Increase cancer cells
HGH is used by many top athletes and seems to help them avoid injuries, there is no real test for it.
Be careful what u wish for because it may be granted😅
My late mom used to say while alive, that she would give five years of her life to clock back 2 years. But when she actually had stage 4 cancer and dying, her last wish was to live just 5 years more. She wanted to live, with wrinkles and all. U do not know what u are talking about mate.
thymic involution
Just gotta ask. What’s with the head in the corner?
Does it help from Frozen Shoulder
Possibly but TB500 and BPC-157 would heal it faster and cheaper. I used HGH/TB500/BPC 157 for a rotator tear and was back doing light gym work outs in 2 weeks.
@@andrewhinkle160 how much did it cost?
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growth hormone accelerates the multiplication and creation of new cells, these cells are formed into stem cells, which, unfortunately, have a limited number of reproductions and then they die, and nothing replaces them, so in old age the organs stop working properly or the skin becomes ugly, and for this reason people with high levels of HGH, they have a chance to leave this world faster. :D
I dont get it does hgh shorten life or what?
Love, my HGH and I have been taking for over a year on and off :)
What daily dose in ius?
I been on it on and off for 15 years. Mostly on. Anywhere from 2iu up to 10iu
@@HaMashiachSaves very little number 6 on the needle 💉
@@Bigrush-2112 wonderful 😃
That treatment will set you back four grand a month so its good your getting something out of it
The Rock
I would not take a chance with HGH.
Why?
@@synchronis346 bc it could cause stroke and heart attack...I'm on a low dose of natural DHEA for my chronic fatigue..and spend tons of 💰on nutraceuticals. Sick and tired of experimenting with my health. I'm in my mid 70s.
Human Growth hormone only works for certain period of time then u need to take a break from it . Overly production can also lead to growth of tumor and other possible cancerous . Remember any form of proliferation of cells also affects tumor or cancerous cells
Wrong
@@Dan-zs8pk no he isnt wrong you fool.
@@BackFireZz He is wrong you clown
Right
So which of you is right and who is wrong ?
1 mg is hefty 😂. That’s 10 ius a day
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High doses of ipamorelin 3x per day is much better than exogenous hgh
Sounds like a fast route to IR
@@immers2410 no different that exogenous hgh in that regard
@@immers2410 what’s IR?
@@marionharris5952 insulin resistance
It’s nowhere near as good as hgh. I’ve tried them both. Quality HGH you can’t compare to any peptide at any dose
May I guess? No...it must be an ingredient of the pie for optimal health.
I did about one iu a day for 3-4 months, often alongside mk677- my hands, jaw, feet and bones in generally have grown significantly - l am 42 and this took place around age 39. Happy with the results but f ending up looking like gigantism acromegaly etc
You injected 1 IU for 3 months and your bones grew? I do not believe that Excuse me😊
I think HGH is anti-anti aging
Go on
With respect it doesn’t matter what you think. What matters is good quality evidence. We should all be making decisions on evidence. Having said that I concur with your opinion because I have reviewed the evidence extensively over many years
@@boydhooper4080 it matters because I’m an expert
@@boydhooper4080 in all seriousness, HGH? Because we want distended stomachs and giant heads google acromegaly and see how that goes. Totally not worth it there’s a ton of things that make you “feel good temporarily” with long term costs.
@@RKO1988 we’re talking about 0.8-1.5iu per day
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I love my HGH. If you haven’t used it and you are an aging athlete, don’t knock it.
but what happens when you stop using it?
What your thoughts on spiking HGH with niacin? As niacin increase by hgh 1500%
Very nice underutilized technique. And mega-dose niacin has countless other benefits as well.
The data on mega dosing niacin WARNS of liver TOXICITY...Do your research before proceeding.
@@cgrisby1965 Correction: the DATA does not warn; ignorant people unaware of the total picture (i.e. ALL of the data) have warned.
Mega-dose niacin has been used in countless millions of doses over generations without harming the liver.
Only timed-release niacin might harm the liver (a couple dozen cases in the 1990s), and even this it is foggy, since many people take time-release niacin without problems. In any case, immediate-release niacin does not cause liver damage, and in fact helps CORRECT liver damage of a sort: non-alcoholic liver disease (NAFL):
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The links (trying again to see):
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31706905/
www.scientificarchives.com/article/pharmacologic-therapy-with-niacin-for-nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease-nafld-emerging-evidence
www.medicine.uci.edu/cardio-cme/PDF/2020/Presentations-2020/Kashyap_OCSymposium2020Presentation.pdf
Ah! the links SURVIVED this time! how nice.
There’s a test for HGH 🤣
Peter Attia spent almost a quarter of this video on disclosures and emphatic legal indemnity statements 🙄 Seems rather paranoid and pathetic to me 👎🏻
In the USA, probably half of the cost of medicine is lawsuit indemnification. I'm not in HC so don't neckbeard me with "actually..."
One reason that emigrating to other countries is far less expensive to obtain quality health care.
I find him useless
This podcast was useless
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