which equation has no solutions: sin(z)=2, sin(z)=i, tan(z)=2, tan(z)=i?

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    thanks for Calvin for the clever way: Another way to see that tan z = \pm i has no solution, is to recall that sin^2 z + cos^2 z = 1. So, if tan z = \pm i, then sin z = \pm i cos z, and sin^2 z = - cos^2 z, so sin^2 + cos^2 z = 0, which is a contradiction
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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +162

    Another way to see that tan z = \pm i has no solution, is to recall that sin^2 z + cos^2 z = 1. So, if tan z = \pm i, then sin z = \pm i cos z, and sin^2 z = - cos^2 z, so sin^2 + cos^2 z = 0, which is a contradiction.
    Thanks to Calvin for the clever way!

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    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 5 років тому +14

      what is "\pm" ?

    • @ralfschroder9105
      @ralfschroder9105 5 років тому +15

      NoName plus/minus

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 5 років тому +6

      you can also derive this by looking at the integral expression for arctan(z)=integral (1/(1+t^2)), but this mean that 1+t^2=/0, so t^2 cannot equal -1 (which it is i and -i). You can say that arctan(i) diverges.

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 5 років тому +2

      --> look at the graph of arctanh(x)

  • @daaa2299
    @daaa2299 5 років тому +401

    tan(x)=i
    sin(x)/cos(x)=i
    sin(x)=i*cos(x)
    i*sin(x)=-cos(x)
    cos(x) + i*sin(x) = 0
    Euler formula
    e^(i*x)=0
    But there is no complex solution to this equation

    • @nuklearboysymbiote
      @nuklearboysymbiote 5 років тому +31

      Wow much simpler

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +92

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    • @lilyyy411
      @lilyyy411 5 років тому +12

      x--->∞*i would be the solution, but infinity is not a number

    • @rileyk6147
      @rileyk6147 5 років тому +24

      @@lilyyy411 So what you're saying is there's no solution lol

    • @mokouf3
      @mokouf3 5 років тому +3

      Simple way. Why can't I think about that lol

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    @JaydentheMathGuy 5 років тому +128

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      @JaydentheMathGuy 5 років тому +2

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    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +10

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  • @elvinsamedov547
    @elvinsamedov547 5 років тому +53

    *tan(x)=2 or any real number always has a real solution. because Range of tan(x)=(-infinity, +infinity)*

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 4 роки тому +2

      Yup. Tan(x) also represents slope, which should always have a corresponding angle

    • @guest_of_randomness
      @guest_of_randomness 3 роки тому +2

      i sucked, i was looking at this and thinking of plucking complex formula of tangent. lol

  • @GynxShinx
    @GynxShinx 4 роки тому +9

    Something I found by accident without a background in complex trig:
    The integral of 1/((x^2)-1).
    Solve by partial fraction decomposition.
    Solve by u substitution for u=ix.
    Set the solutions equal to each other.
    Make sure +C isn't a problem.
    Divide both sides by i.
    Substitute each x for -ix.
    Complex Inverse Tangent.

  • @alicwz5515
    @alicwz5515 5 років тому +33

    Just square both sides and add 1
    You'll get that sec z=0, which has no solutions

    • @HeyKevinYT
      @HeyKevinYT 5 років тому

      Oh yes yes

    • @kevinhart4real
      @kevinhart4real 5 років тому

      nice

    • @rodwayworkor9202
      @rodwayworkor9202 4 роки тому

      You need to prove that this inequality still holds in the complex plane...

    • @gigachad6844
      @gigachad6844 3 роки тому +1

      How do you know sec z=0 has no solution?

    • @reeeeeplease1178
      @reeeeeplease1178 3 роки тому +1

      @@gigachad6844 sec(z) = 1/cos(z), so if sec z = 0 then 1/cos(x) = 0, which is not possible

  • @nathanisbored
    @nathanisbored 5 років тому +6

    my guess before watching or working it out on paper is D. reason is that i know A and C are possible, and B seems possible because sin(ix) = i*sinh(x) so sinh(x) just has to be 1.

    • @nathanisbored
      @nathanisbored 5 років тому +1

      i was right tho i was expecting there to be some deeper reason why its not worth trying to define arctan(i). anyway, nice video

    • @Fokalopoka
      @Fokalopoka 5 років тому +2

      @@nathanisbored arctan(z) has a pole on i and -i, thats why its not worth it, check out complex graphs on wolfram

  • @go201010
    @go201010 2 роки тому +1

    Another simple solution:
    Tanh(iz)=iTan(z)
    If Tan(z) = i or -1
    Tanh(iz) = -1 or 1
    And Tanh can't reach 1 or -1

  • @userBBB
    @userBBB 5 років тому +3

    6:00 super effect!

  • @mercybellafiore3677
    @mercybellafiore3677 5 років тому +22

    Is there any way to assign a meaningful value to arctan(i), maybe by using something other than complex numbers?

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 років тому +25

      Ryan Bellafiore No, and that is for the same reasons there is no meaningful value to log(0) by extending the number system. These expressions are not merely undefined, but undefinable.

    • @General12th
      @General12th 5 років тому +19

      Angel is right. Some undefined values, like the square roots of negative numbers, can be given definitions that play well with the rest of math. Other undefined values, like division by zero, cannot. Arctan(i) falls in the latter category. You can try to create a new number that's defined in this way, but you'll run into contradictions you just can't iron out.

    • @leofisher1280
      @leofisher1280 5 років тому +3

      @@General12th division by 0 can be given a value in different systems though. the extended complex numbers allow for division by 0.

    • @seroujghazarian6343
      @seroujghazarian6343 4 роки тому +1

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 actually, there IS a set which arctan(i) is defined, it's the adherence of C

    • @lukaskrause6022
      @lukaskrause6022 2 роки тому

      @@leofisher1280 can you explain further? Have any links I can look into? Are you talking abt hyperreals/infinitesimals? Bc those are NOT 0

  • @nchoosekmath
    @nchoosekmath 5 років тому +24

    Random question, does it mean that tan-1(z) has singularities at z = +-i? If so, what type?

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 5 років тому +7

      yes it does, if arctan(z) tends to i it goes to positive complex infinity but the real part does not diverge and as it tends to -i it goes to negative complex infinity but the real part does not diverge.

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 5 років тому +4

      you can look at the graph of i*arctanh(x) to see this for your self.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeremy.N So then what is the real part if it doesn't diverge?

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 2 роки тому

      @@ZipplyZane the real part has an absolute value of pi/4, the sign depends on from where you approach it.

    • @jeremy.N
      @jeremy.N 2 роки тому

      @@ZipplyZane also damn, this is 2 years old, you think ill remember? xD

  • @FreeGroup22
    @FreeGroup22 2 роки тому +2

    you could just integrate dt/(1+t²)
    1/(1+t²)=1/(t+i) - 1/(t-i) =int= ln((x+i)/(x-i))

  • @khortonocksir9982
    @khortonocksir9982 5 років тому +1

    Hey bro I love your maths trick.Can you provide quick solution to sin100.sin120.sin140.sin180

  • @catholicpenguin
    @catholicpenguin 3 роки тому

    Tan(z) = i => sin(z)/cos(z) = i => sin(z) = icos(z) => cos(z) = -isin(z)
    Now consider e^(iz) = cos(z) + isin(z)
    We know cos(z) = -isin(z) so we substitute that in and get that e^(iz) = -isin(z) + isin(z) = 0, meaning z = -iln(0), but ln(0) is undefined, therefore z has no solutions

  • @quitecomplex6441
    @quitecomplex6441 5 років тому +15

    Couldn’t you also use the fact that the derivative of arctangent is 1/(1+x^2) and inputting in i would give you an undefined answer?

    • @BigDBrian
      @BigDBrian 5 років тому +4

      y=|x| has a value at 0 but no defined derivative at 0

    • @Fokalopoka
      @Fokalopoka 5 років тому

      @@BigDBrian yea, but if u plug 0 into derivative of a |x| you get 0/0, in arctan situation you get 1/0 form

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +13

      Well, sqrt(x) is an example. It has a value but not derivative at 0

    • @General12th
      @General12th 5 років тому +4

      Just because a function has an undefined derivative at some point doesn't mean the function itself is undefined. The Weierstrass function, for example, is defined at every point (in fact it's continuous) but has no derivative anywhere.

    • @quitecomplex6441
      @quitecomplex6441 5 років тому +1

      Good point.

  • @rodwayworkor9202
    @rodwayworkor9202 4 роки тому +1

    @BPRP
    It could have solution if you consider different type of complex number z which are much different than *i* like *j* or *k*

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 роки тому

      You think there is a solution in quaternions?

  • @brunogreco1831
    @brunogreco1831 5 років тому +1

    You have several videos of calculus,do some of linear transformations please.,could the next video be these problem please?.be T:R^3 a R^3 the linear transformation give by T (x,y,z)=(3x+z,x+y,-x).define if it s possible a linear transformation T1:R^3 a R^3 such as T (T1 (0,2,1))=(-1,1,3);T1 (0,1,0)=(1,0,1) y Nu (T1) ≠{0}.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 років тому

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  • @rafciopranks3570
    @rafciopranks3570 5 років тому +1

    What is iverse tangent aproaching when z aproaches i

  • @userBBB
    @userBBB 5 років тому +1

    sometimes my professor says this equation(some equation) has no solution without trying to calculate it, and I have no idea why...

  • @ahappyperson6530
    @ahappyperson6530 2 роки тому

    Sin/cos = i
    Sin²+cos²=0
    But, for any x
    sin²+cos²=1
    Hence no x is possible for Sin²+cos²=0
    Hence tanZ=i have no solution

  • @mrpotatohed4
    @mrpotatohed4 2 роки тому

    here because i had no idea how to solve this in your poll :D

  • @stevebeal73
    @stevebeal73 5 років тому +1

    Finding this hard to get. Intuitively, if sin(z) = i has a solution, then why shouldn't cos(z) = i have a solution? And since tan = sin/cos, then tan(z) = i should have a solution too. So I worked out an expression for cos (z) using sin squared + cos squared = 1. Then it was simple to compute tan (z) and the answer I got was i/(sqrt 2). Of course, I had to divide by cos(z) which obviously is 0 when Z = 90 degrees, but in the real world, nobody would say that tan (theta) has no solution because when theta is 90 degrees the answer is infinity. Hope this makes sense. Apologies if there is a mistake somewhere - I got my BSc (admittedly in Physics) way back in 1971 ! Really like the channel btw!

    • @MarioFanGamer659
      @MarioFanGamer659 5 років тому

      I'm pretty sure your calculation is wrong because tan^1(i/sqrt(2)) = 0.8813..., though I can't really tell where because I find it difficult to understand. Either way, try to calculate tanh^1(±1).

  • @raptor9514
    @raptor9514 5 років тому

    tan(z)=+/-i
    tan^2(z)=-1
    1+tan^2(z)=0
    sec^2(z)=0
    sec(z)=0
    1/sin(z)=0
    Which is a contradiction

  • @jesp9435
    @jesp9435 2 роки тому +5

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      @MikehMike01 3 місяці тому

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  • @MrHatoi
    @MrHatoi 5 років тому

    Dude this video straight up crashed my computer when you started pulling out the magic!

  • @Mernusify
    @Mernusify 5 років тому +1

    Here's a list of equations I know has no solution, even over the complexes:
    1. tan(z) = +-i (mentioned in the video)
    2. cot(z) = +-i (same thing as tangent)
    3. sec(z) = 0 and csc(z) = 0
    4. sech(z) = 0 and csch(z) = 0
    5. tanh(z) = +-1
    6. coth(z) = +-1

  • @anmolsahu4166
    @anmolsahu4166 5 років тому +1

    Fundamentally are wrong. sin cos and tan are parts of triangles.
    Due to which they are just some ratios of the sides.
    So what someone taken out a series and find relationships.
    It doesn't mean doing on that series means sin cos or tan is affected

  • @masontucker5715
    @masontucker5715 2 роки тому

    I just found this channel and this video fries my brain like fries in a air fryer

  • @SeriousApache
    @SeriousApache 5 років тому +17

    I gonna try it in Calculator++.
    Edit: it says "NaNNaNi"

    • @Cloiss_
      @Cloiss_ 4 роки тому +6

      RUSapache NaNi?!?!

    • @msclrhd
      @msclrhd 4 роки тому +1

      @@Cloiss_ NaN is "not a number" in computer real (floating point) numbers. So it looks like calculator++ is trying to display the complex number a+ib as abi, possibly getting the number printing to display the '+' instead of the display logic (to avoid something like "2+-3i"), but because the value is "NaN" the +/- is not displayed?

    • @ip9109
      @ip9109 4 роки тому +1

      "Nannani" sounds like something you'd shout in Japanese, like it means "wait up!" or something

  • @ВладиславШашков-ы8и

    tg^2 (x) + 1 = -1+1= 1/sin^2 (x), that's why 0=1/sin^2 (x), no such x exists.

  • @tobyzxcd
    @tobyzxcd 4 роки тому

    I feel like if my maths teacher ever displeases me I should drop this on them

  • @vitalsbat2310
    @vitalsbat2310 2 роки тому

    can it be lim[w->i] tan^-1 (w) ?

  • @willnewman9783
    @willnewman9783 4 роки тому

    0:00 e^z=0 has no solution either

  • @helloitsme7553
    @helloitsme7553 5 років тому

    This is more of a no solution type where there would be no convergence so also no other set than the reals or complex would have a solution in it right

  • @Sg190th
    @Sg190th 5 років тому +1

    6:30 do you mean inverse tangent hyperbolic or inverse tangent? I see a natural log so I'm assuming you meant tanh inverse.

    • @AxelStrem
      @AxelStrem 5 років тому

      tan(z) = tanh(iz)/i
      so naturally their inverse functions look very similar

  • @tahsintarif6864
    @tahsintarif6864 5 років тому

    @4:34 why didn't you use componendo-dividendo -_- ?

  • @jay24s15
    @jay24s15 5 років тому

    Great video.

  • @Gustavo_0107
    @Gustavo_0107 5 років тому

    Yo can u help me pls? I can't solve the integral of ((e^x)(x-1))/(x(x+e^x)) from 1 to 2.

  • @weeborghini4016
    @weeborghini4016 10 місяців тому

    how about tan(z)=i/2

  • @somilmittal6286
    @somilmittal6286 5 років тому

    Can we prove that tan(1)+tan(w)+tan(w^2)=tan(1). Tan(w).tan(w^2) where w is non real cube root of unity

  • @blunjosh
    @blunjosh 5 років тому

    I don’t know what the fuck is going on but I enjoy watching this solve these problems

  • @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562
    @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 4 роки тому

    ln(0) is -infinity so there is a answer(well yes its more of a limit)

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    @holyinquisition8854 5 років тому +1

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  • @grubbygeorge2117
    @grubbygeorge2117 2 роки тому

    Complex numbers just confuse the hell out of me sometimes.

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    @jaykay2218 5 років тому +1

    Great video

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      @ang_gml 5 років тому

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  • @pedrolamorte8225
    @pedrolamorte8225 5 років тому +2

    Well, you just need to say: tanz=i, let be z=j solution for that equation and you create a whole new body of numbers

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  • @masonhunter2748
    @masonhunter2748 3 роки тому

    The last one

  • @clorulo
    @clorulo 5 років тому

    I have a challenge for you: find analytically the complex solutions of the following, if possible:
    ln (x) = e^x

    • @alexting827
      @alexting827 4 роки тому

      Interesting. I shall have a go at this some time in the future

  • @stolenmonkey7477
    @stolenmonkey7477 6 місяців тому

    The zing sounds feel a bit out of place lol

  • @ugooliveri4969
    @ugooliveri4969 4 роки тому

    Sin z = 2
    2>1
    -1

  • @yaleng4597
    @yaleng4597 5 років тому

    arctan(i) feels sad

  • @VibingMath
    @VibingMath 5 років тому

    Cosine feels unhappy coz he cannot join the game 😂. Thanks bprp and all the smart solutions in the comment!

  • @ghostexe9041
    @ghostexe9041 5 років тому

    If infinite is Undifineble then how we can put 1/infinity is exactly 0. I think it may be[.999999999..... /1.00000000000000......1] what u thinks

    • @fghsgh
      @fghsgh 5 років тому

      You are talking about the hyperreal numbers. Those have infinitessimals. ε is the smallest number larger than 0. In modern mathematics, we use limits instead. We say that as x approaches infinity, 1/x approaches 0, and, in the limit, equals zero.
      This is written as lim(x->∞) 1/x = 0. Simple arithmetic using infinity is not possible, because 1+∞=∞=2+∞, so 1=2. Therefore, we always wrap infinity (and division by zero) into a limit, which can usually make it computable even when the actual expression makes little sense.
      Originally, calculus had been developed with infinitessimals (by people like Isaac Newton), but it has been redefined using limits because of historical reasons.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 років тому +1

      fghsgh No, that is 100% inaccurate.
      1. The real reason limits were made conventional in favor of infinitesimal quantities is because, back in the day, formal axiomatizations of mathematics did not exist, and as such, the understanding that the existence of infinite and infinitesimal quantities can be made consistent in first-order logic did not exist. In other words, it had nothing to do with them being confusing, it had to with not having the necessary formal, theoretical tools to set infinitesimal numbers on a rigorous footing. In mathematics, rigor takes superiority over intuitive understanding, so regardless of how less confusing the notion of infinitesimal quantities was, there just was not enough rigor to justify their usage.
      2. You completely misrepresent how hyperreal numbers work. First, you claimed that the quantity ε/2 being smaller than ε is an impossibility. This is false. Numbers of the form a + bε, such that ε = 1/ω, where a and b are real numbers, are well-defined and the set has a well-ordering. It also has a different total-ordering which matches that of the real numbers. Also, ωε = 1, not any number. 0/0 can be any number, but that is not the same thing. If you extend the field to a wheel, however, then 0/0 is a well-defined quantity separate from any other.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 років тому

      fghsgh The definition of ε is simply 1/ω, nothing else. Nothing about it contradicts the existence of ε/2.

    • @fghsgh
      @fghsgh 5 років тому

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 I updated my answer. Thanks. Infinitessimals is not something high schoolers usually learn about.

  • @AndDiracisHisProphet
    @AndDiracisHisProphet 4 роки тому +1

    Wolfram alpha says it is i*inf :)

  • @magnuseifr
    @magnuseifr 4 роки тому

    Oh, so this is just a masked version of ln(z) = 0!

  • @rahulravi661
    @rahulravi661 4 роки тому

    arctan I.

  • @megalul4141
    @megalul4141 4 роки тому

    Well 1=2 truly has no solutions

  • @daniel57345
    @daniel57345 5 років тому +1

    Tan(z)=i has no solution

  • @vladislav_artyukhov
    @vladislav_artyukhov 5 років тому

    So, we can scale lim x->i 😆

  • @frederic-alexandrelacasse8079
    @frederic-alexandrelacasse8079 3 роки тому

    You forget the hypercomplex world hehehe

  • @vahsify3359
    @vahsify3359 4 роки тому

    I’m in 6th grade
    I’m dead after watching this

  • @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562
    @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 4 роки тому

    lets just make a new complex number called "j" for the solution to this

  • @gandalfos
    @gandalfos 4 роки тому

    inb4 quaternion solutions smh

  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 3 роки тому

    TAN(Z)=2

  • @lokendojsjsx3672
    @lokendojsjsx3672 4 роки тому +3

    I just invented a new type of number, which I call ¥, such that tan(¥)=i.
    You can thank me later, weak brained mathematicians 😎👌

  • @inderjit0507
    @inderjit0507 5 років тому

    I think tan(z)= i has no solution.

  • @nuklearboysymbiote
    @nuklearboysymbiote 5 років тому

    Ok… would this have something to do with the fact that cos(π/2) = 0? The invalid inputs exp(πi/2) and exp(-πi/2) remind me of that.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 років тому

      NukeML Not really. It has to do with the fact that log(0) is undefined, since the equation can be rearranged to be e^(iz) = 0, which has no solutions. Alternatively, it means arctan(i) and arctan(-i) are undefined.

  • @sirajkhalil6924
    @sirajkhalil6924 5 років тому +2

    First

  • @ghostexe9041
    @ghostexe9041 5 років тому

    👍👍👍

  • @PaulYourBase
    @PaulYourBase 5 років тому

    Ok, but does tan(z)=i have a hypercomplex solution?

  • @rishabh9389
    @rishabh9389 5 років тому

    I have sympathy for you.....

  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard 5 років тому

    "I cannot be won!"

  • @tokajileo5928
    @tokajileo5928 4 роки тому

    get a real mic.

  • @eliyasne9695
    @eliyasne9695 5 років тому +50

    I showed it by replacing tan with sin/cos and then by sin/√(1-sin^2)
    Then, by squaring both sides i got sin^2/(1-sin^2)=-1

  • @MathIguess
    @MathIguess 4 роки тому +7

    To be honest, I visualised the unit circle and figured that you can't have tan(z) = i because to get to i, you have to take an angle of pi/2 and then you have i divided by 0. I hope what I mean here is clear.

  • @Mirnaja1421
    @Mirnaja1421 5 років тому +4

    How about cos(x)=x?
    I think this is interesting
    Great video give going:)

  • @univuniveral9713
    @univuniveral9713 5 років тому +12

    Complex equation - no pun intended lol.

  • @simonsidorov8315
    @simonsidorov8315 4 роки тому +1

    *sees inverse tangent
    *pukes

  • @davidgillies620
    @davidgillies620 5 років тому +2

    A bit more detail on inverse circular/hyperbolic trig functions in the complex domain would be nice because it's not that obvious (fun fact, I contributed the example for arcsin(z) on Wikipedia).

  • @maf9120
    @maf9120 5 років тому +3

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that to get +-i in the complex plane you need a 90 or 270 degree turn, which are invalid arguments for the tangent function

  • @vano__
    @vano__ 5 років тому +2

    I integrated 1/(1+x^2) using partial fractions hence got imaginary definition of inverse tangent. Plugged in 1 and got pi/4 so C = 0, then plugged in pi/2 and got an answer of pi/2i. Whats going on?

  • @volxxe
    @volxxe 5 років тому +3

    I dare you to do the derangement of i
    Edit: I didn’t find any solution in google so I did it and wanna see if i did it well

  • @muratkaradag3703
    @muratkaradag3703 5 років тому +1

    Hi BlackpenRedpen. I teach physics at university and I advised the students to watch your channel if they want to learn how to Integrate functions really, really quickly and skip lectures, in which they teach how to integrate... They were amazed ;) like I'am !!

  • @chirayu_jain
    @chirayu_jain 5 років тому +1

    Complex numbers are sneakier then we think

  • @Mathelite-ii4hd
    @Mathelite-ii4hd 4 роки тому +1

    i am a math student and your solutions are really interesting...i love you...keep it up...

  • @沈博智-x5y
    @沈博智-x5y 2 роки тому

    I just saw your video on imaginary triangle
    made me think back to this video
    tan(z) = i = i/1
    create triangle with opp=i, adj = 1, hyp = sqrt(i^2 + 1^2) = sqrt(-1+1) = 0
    this means cos(z) = 1/0......
    sin(z) = i/0...
    division by zero....
    (probably not rigorous at all but cool nonetheless)
    this basically goes back to the method you pinned with starting with cos^2(z) + sin^2(z) = 1
    so tan(z) = i
    implies tan^2(z) = i^2
    tan^2(z) = -1
    1+tan^2(z) = 0
    sec^2(z) = 0..... (uh oh)....
    1/cos^2(z) = 0 .....
    1 = 0????
    can use similar method for -i... since squaring a "negative" is "positive". i^2 = (-i)^2 = -1
    [i can see that someone else in the comments (in reply of pinned comment has basically used the same method regarding tan^2(z) + 1 = sec^2(z)]

  • @drdca8263
    @drdca8263 4 роки тому +1

    I thought any entire function had at most one value missing from the image though?
    Oh, right, ok, so tan(z) can be infinity,
    and the actual thing is that an entire function can be missing at most 2 values from the Riemann sphere, right?
    And for tan(z) these are i,-i ?
    Cool!

  • @parthsampat5128
    @parthsampat5128 5 років тому +1

    Interesting

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentation. Thanks. DrRahul Rohtak Haryana India

  • @vigneshviki5771
    @vigneshviki5771 5 років тому +1

    Can u do a video on application of derivatives and integrals? Like finding the value of 1.996^5 using derivatives 😅

  • @justinlewtp
    @justinlewtp 4 роки тому

    I was thinking D since y=tanx takes all real values except for npi/2, n is odd for which it's infinity, so there's no space for it to equal i

  • @lacasadeacero
    @lacasadeacero 6 місяців тому

    You discovered R3. I call it j hehe

  • @federicodiaz6880
    @federicodiaz6880 4 роки тому

    Sin (pi/x) x = pi

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x 2 роки тому +1

    Then, what's the tangent doing instead?
    How does it transform the complex plane so that no complex value is mapped to ±i?
    (Are those two the only exceptions?)

  • @user-gd5gn4cl9g
    @user-gd5gn4cl9g 4 роки тому

    نريد ترجمه

  • @firstnamelastname8684
    @firstnamelastname8684 5 років тому +1

    tan(z)=i

  • @mattimicusshufflizecki10
    @mattimicusshufflizecki10 4 роки тому

    I know i is some special number thing in the imaginary world but is z just a pronumeral because looking at the sine graph the range is between -1 and 1 so how could you get 2?

    • @antoniozavaldski
      @antoniozavaldski 2 роки тому

      Z implies a complex number, and the range of sin() being between 0 and 1 only applies to the real numbers.

  • @amologusmogusmogumogu2535
    @amologusmogusmogumogu2535 4 роки тому

    Every equation should have a solution. If the complex world has no solutions for it, then maybe a greater arena of maths may have a solution. Maybe we could use quarternions.

  • @clovisyio6573
    @clovisyio6573 4 роки тому

    it's crazy that when you think about it. only 3 has a solution and 25% doesnt. such a big number