Walschaerts Valve Gear

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @aCivilServant
    @aCivilServant Рік тому +88

    The best demonstration of Walschaerts gear I've seen on UA-cam, explaining the basics an the nuances clearly and concisely with well presented graphics. Well Done.

    • @taijuan5087
      @taijuan5087 Рік тому +2

      Best explanation/demonstration of Walschaerts valve gear EVER, not just on UA-cam.

  • @BnuuyBoi2005
    @BnuuyBoi2005 Рік тому +44

    After 2 years, they finally made a video. This literally made my day better

  • @myronsmith8343
    @myronsmith8343 Рік тому +10

    This has been the best demo/explanation of the function of the combination lever that I've ever seen. Reading about it has never clicked for me. Thanks

  • @tenix6698
    @tenix6698 3 місяці тому +2

    I like how you showed an intuitive way to come up with the walschaerts valve gear, maybe even close to the inventor's thought process? The video then proceeds to deeply examine how each component it the mechanism we came up with moves, and what that movement entails for the operation of our engine.

  • @DelayInBlockProductions
    @DelayInBlockProductions Рік тому +3

    Fantastic video!

  • @infinitesoulluos
    @infinitesoulluos 11 місяців тому +3

    This is a magnificent explanation that is easily the most comprehensive and clear description of an otherwise mind boggling mechanism. I have been in awe of the Walschaerts Valve Gear (like many) with its almost hypnotic motion on a running loco; it speaks volumes of the brilliance of its inventor. I've often wondered how long it took to work out the entire design from inception, and the progression of development must have been an enlightening experience. Many thanks for the hours of work in developing this fantastic tutorial.

  • @JohnnieE1961
    @JohnnieE1961 Рік тому +3

    When I saw this video was over 45 mins. I wasn't sure I could sit through it.
    After viewing, I'm prepared to watch it over and over now.
    Fantasic naration, 3D and animation and above all insight into valve gear motion. Thanks a lot.

  • @Wayne-Kj
    @Wayne-Kj Рік тому +20

    Fantastic video! I have always been fascinated by steam engines since I was a little kid, and they were still in operation on a limited basis. I would make drawings of them from the illustrations in the Encyclopedia Britanica (many decades before the internet!). I'm 76 now and yes, I went on the be a mechanical engineer. You could have guessed that when I was seven or eight years old!

  • @thedemolitionmuniciple
    @thedemolitionmuniciple 5 місяців тому +1

    Took me a long time to be in the mood to watch this, but that gave me the opportunity to watch this _and actually learn something._ This is a very well put together presentation with clear explanations of everything, very easy to follow visuals, and a great narrator.
    Looks like I'll be giving the steam engines in train simulator another try.

  • @alistairgill5538
    @alistairgill5538 Рік тому +5

    I've always been interested in trains and steam locomotives. I assumed the workings of valve gear was beyond my comprehension. This video proves that good teaching can bridge the gap between what we currently understand and the next level. So many of my teachers were not up to scratch. As commented elsewhere, an excellent video.

  • @geoffroberts4267
    @geoffroberts4267 Рік тому

    Ever since my first toy train set I have been fascinated by the mention of Walschaerts Valve gear but it has never been clearly explained Thanks for enlightening me.

  • @raybame5816
    @raybame5816 Рік тому +6

    Your presentation is almost textbook that was used in my Dad's day when he was working as a design engineer in the late 30's & early 40's. He tried to explain all this but didn't possess the communication skill that you have. 'Course the graphics help a lot, but your delivery is clear as can be. Thanks. liked&subbed immediately. P.S. 2-8-4 is my favorite wheel arrangement.

  • @user-clixxR2D2-7
    @user-clixxR2D2-7 Місяць тому

    Wow, I have been looking and looking for this kind of design analysis and interpretation. This is absolutely fantastic and very clear. Thank you very very much for this animation with detailed explanation. :)

  • @mgoodman312
    @mgoodman312 Рік тому +5

    I was recently gifted a collection of International Correspondence School books (distributed in the 1930 - 1946 timeframe). Five of the textbooklets addressed valve motions and all were structured exceeding well - as there should be for an instructional book. This video is the moving version of those books; structured almost identically. Really well done - with all of the corner cases covered!

    • @joebliss3609
      @joebliss3609 Рік тому

      C&O's 2-8-4's were some of the finest engines ever built, by both American & Lima Locomotive Works.
      Joe Bliss C&OHS #72

  • @paparoysworkshop
    @paparoysworkshop Рік тому +17

    And all of this was worked out and designed without the use of computers. The engineers back then had amazing talent and forethought.

    • @bofty
      @bofty Рік тому +2

      And a lot of trial and error

    • @flashcar60
      @flashcar60 Рік тому

      Back then they were self-taught as well.

    • @CipiRipi-in7df
      @CipiRipi-in7df Рік тому

      They used sliding rules, printed tables and diagrams and a lot of sweating in front of drawing boards.

  • @rogerletsom2127
    @rogerletsom2127 Рік тому

    I've been looking forward to this tutorial for some time now. Both this and the previous video have given me a better understanding of steam locomotives. Thank you so much!

  • @ForYouTube-rb1fo
    @ForYouTube-rb1fo Рік тому +21

    Excellent explanation. Looking forward to the Baker gear.
    I've been fascinated by these machines since watching them growing up. They seem to be alive, unlike the diesels or electrics. Really enjoying learning the details of how they work.

    • @victordubowski1276
      @victordubowski1276 Рік тому

      I'm waiting for the same thing baker valve gear, always looked the most interesting to me.

  • @dougk5456
    @dougk5456 Рік тому

    Now I can understand all of the linkages that I have seen on locomotives for years and why they are necessary. Great video!!

  • @michaelschnackenberg4769
    @michaelschnackenberg4769 Рік тому +4

    That was a verry impressive presentation. It provides so much clarification of the different elements of this system. When I first studied mechanical engineering as a student, it was a topic in a textbook, the teacher had a wooden model to help provide clarity. Again, brilliant presentation.

  • @mesenteria
    @mesenteria Рік тому

    It's a small thing in railroading, especially in the N. American environment, but the name of the inventor is pronounced 'VAHL-skaretz', sounding like 'scared' but with a 'ts' sound at the end. That aside, I really appreciate this comprehensive description of Walschaerts valve tear. It is most informative, and VERY well done.

  • @boutellejb
    @boutellejb Рік тому

    I've tried to find a good explanation of this for decades! Thank you for such a clear and detailed video of it.

  • @timothykeech7394
    @timothykeech7394 Рік тому +2

    An excellent description. I could imagine the invention, testing, development and refinement stages evolving as the design progressed and the improvement of performance as the whole thing came together. Taking us through the stages as you did was a brilliant idea and beautifully done. Congratulations.

  • @lawriealush-jaggs1473
    @lawriealush-jaggs1473 Рік тому

    This is Sooooo clever! Elegant. Excellent explanation, thank you. The model is lovely too. Congratulations to the person who put it together.

  • @LouKrieg
    @LouKrieg Рік тому +1

    Thanks Dan... a magnificent piece of work. I thought I understood the main ideas of Walschaerts valve gear, but clearly I had missed some key points. Great job! Amazing what those mechanical engineers did without calculators, CAD systems, 3D modeling, etc.

  • @lembriggs1075
    @lembriggs1075 Рік тому +5

    Thank you! Very nice video! Unbelievable graphics! So great that you used a C&O 2700 too!

  • @oldbassist60
    @oldbassist60 Рік тому

    WOW! The brilliance of the engineer(s) who designed this integral and differential device.

  • @insomniac2233
    @insomniac2233 Рік тому

    This was a brilliant example of the mechanics. You hear things,and(start) to pick up on the main idea over the years. But nothing was left out here. I knew what volumetric pressure was,but here’s the precise application of it for a steam locomotive. Thanks for posting this-many thanks!!!

  • @jimmynswgr
    @jimmynswgr Рік тому

    Thankyou for making this excellent video resource. Us Model Engineer folk have many resources available to us for valve gear, the late Don Ashton’s work being one of the best, but for people like me, mathematically heavy! The only explanation of how to find how long the Union link needs to be in relation to the combination lever vertical and piston mid stroke was very interesting. Something I have previously missed. Thankyou again.

  • @richardparkersmith4810
    @richardparkersmith4810 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this. I was brought up with steam as we had a steam traction engine and 2ft guage railway at home (UK). I had a pretty free hand in operating them as I grew older but always with some oversight. My uncle told me about the function of the reverse lever and how to 'notch it back' as speed grew because less steam was needed at higher revs. I got it in terms of how and when but never understood the mechanism of valve timings etc. Now thanks to you, 55 years later I do!

  • @leisureshoot
    @leisureshoot Рік тому

    thank you for doing this. It's the best I've ever seen. Better than anything in a book for understanding the process.

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 Рік тому +3

    Just watched the part 1 and part 2 videos, and I loved them! I learned a lot. I can't wait to see part 3 and hope it doesn't take two years!
    Another video that would be interesting to add to the understanding of steam engine performance would be "indicator diagrams" showing how pressure in the cylinder is affected by differing valve cutoff positions. I am an engineer of internal combustion engines and it is different to think about steam engines, where the cylinder pressure is about equal to boiler pressure, unless the valve event is set to cut off steam admission at different points in the stroke.

  • @ronniescott5179
    @ronniescott5179 9 місяців тому

    Very good video with excellent graphics covering all aspects of this valve motion.

  • @erikziak1249
    @erikziak1249 Рік тому

    Possibly the best video explaining this. Good work, even though I was bored at times because I am familiar with mechanics and designed something simpler about 25 years ago during my mechanical engineer study. EDIT: We call this valve gear Heusinger. It is practically identical, designed independently by a certain Mr. Heusinger.

  • @dgm5186
    @dgm5186 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant video. Thank you for putting this together.

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 Рік тому +1

    Excellant explanation. Doing into the tiny details of how the angles and circular motion are considered. Certainly an ingenious device. And your graphics are great at helping me to understand.

  • @PowerTrain611
    @PowerTrain611 Рік тому +1

    Wow. There's enough information here to make your head spin as much as the wheels! Might take me a few re-watches of this to grasp everything to the fullest extent, but at least it's all here!

  • @neelkanthsapre3254
    @neelkanthsapre3254 Рік тому

    Bravo! The best explanation of valve and control mechanism. I learnt a lot today. Thanks.

  • @dumbluck6180
    @dumbluck6180 Рік тому

    Great explanation and animation. I didn't know anything about locomotive valve timing. Next trip to the rail museum, I'll be taking a closer look. Thanks!

  • @pppgeral
    @pppgeral Рік тому

    Wonderful explanation. It could explain the force of the steam when it enters the piston and how a small piston like that of locomotives can support so much weight.

  • @MrQuirinus1
    @MrQuirinus1 5 місяців тому

    Thank you so much! Eventualy I began to understand the details!

  • @kenglaza8330
    @kenglaza8330 Рік тому

    Perfect. Couldn't be shown better. I enjoyed it.

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation. Finally beginning to understand how this works. Thank you.

  • @eehabkhalil5175
    @eehabkhalil5175 Рік тому

    Because I live in a country that abolished steam locomotives before me born and we as a society do not support such history, it is really my first to see such detailed explanation for the connecting rods between the cylinders and wheels. I would urge and if necessary try to help but I am not any export that you as a community need to make such detailed and yet simple lectures for every aspect of steam locomotives design and maintenance in whatever aspect you think about. Probably at some point we might form a group to design steam locomotives much better and efficient.

  • @RAFAELALV-f6t
    @RAFAELALV-f6t 2 місяці тому

    I'm looking forward to the next video in the series

  • @pmsteamrailroading
    @pmsteamrailroading Рік тому +1

    I loved this, I hope to see the next part soon.
    I would love to see this done for poppet valves like the type used on the L1 Hudsons, and a full work up on Stevenson valves.

  • @vojtasTS29
    @vojtasTS29 10 місяців тому

    This is a brilliant video. Even if you "know" how the valve gear operates, this addresses the sort of things you don't think about but were crucial when Walschaerts, or Heusinger (which is how we know it here) invented the beautifully simple and effective motion. - Just want to say, there was a lot of locomotives with outside Stephenson's and especially Allan's valve gear in Austria - Hungary. I'm from Czechia and when you said it, I was like, no, this is normal and does fit quite well? :D

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 Рік тому

    Very nicely done! Just stumbled across this 8 days after you released it. Earned ya a subscription! Now I know what to look for when I set up my Pacific!

  • @tradtrain
    @tradtrain Рік тому

    Very interesting video,thank you for taking the time to explain how it works.

  • @arubaguy2733
    @arubaguy2733 Рік тому

    I had an antique toy steam engine as a kid 60years ago on which both the piston/cylinder and the valve assembly pivoted and always pointed directly at their rotating connection points on the flywheel. Thus, there was not the angular "error" in either the push rod or the connecting rod strokes. Midpoints of the strokes acted concurrently with the piston and valve midpoints.
    (Actually, the pivoting motion of the piston/cylinder was mechanically linked to the valve actuator in such a way as to provide the necessary 90 degree lead of the valve action over the piston action.) It was brilliantly simple. Sadly, the toy vanished in one of several moves since.

  • @mikeme6439
    @mikeme6439 10 місяців тому

    "MOIN" as we say here in north germany... or as jock spoken south scandinavia. on the one side so interesting to me, how small our hobby world seams to be, that someone like you have entered my chanal. thank you for that. on the other side a lot of respect to your video of explaining professionally steam locomotion technology, says the german vehicle engineer and welding engineer.
    TO OUR HOBBY, all the best and more please....

  • @chrislaarman7532
    @chrislaarman7532 Рік тому

    Me too: excellent explanation! Thank you. :-)
    Slight suggestion: when you say something that amounts to "Here we see...", then I must scan my big screen with the speed of an old cathode ray to find where "here" is. The explanation might benefit from some lead-in "cursor movement" to the place of action.

  • @danaschoen432
    @danaschoen432 Рік тому

    I've seen deep dives on technical subjects, but this is Marianas Trench deep. fascinating!

  • @ernestomiguelbagur408
    @ernestomiguelbagur408 Рік тому

    Amazing. No longer than a month ago I was looking for exactly this kind of video. Did you read my mind?

  • @MissPiggyM976
    @MissPiggyM976 Рік тому

    Best video ever on this topic !

  • @Railman1225
    @Railman1225 Рік тому +1

    This was awesome! A beautiful explanation of Walschaerts valve gear, well demonstrated at that! The only thing I'd say about your presentation is the fact that I don't think C&O Kanawhas had Walschaerts, but instead Baker, as all Lima-built and most 2-8-4s in general did. Still, this presentation does a great job making the Walschaerts look right at home on this iron horse!

    • @mgoodman312
      @mgoodman312 Рік тому

      When the video first started, I noticed the same thing. Then @ 1:10 he addressed that elephant! You hit the nail on the head with your comment that the Walschaerts looks at home - a credit to whoever did the graphics for this. Take it easy, @Railman!

  • @ArtBarn591
    @ArtBarn591 Рік тому

    Excellent stuff! thanks for such a well done explanation.

  • @DaveJ5
    @DaveJ5 Рік тому

    Great video. It would be great if you could also do a video of Southern Valve Gear.

  • @dylanhackbarth6390
    @dylanhackbarth6390 11 місяців тому

    cant wait to see the baker video, haven't found a good basic explanation of it anywhere

  • @Mr.Rogers143
    @Mr.Rogers143 11 місяців тому

    These videos have been very helpful.
    I'd love to see more information on the frame, suspension, pilot and trailing trucks of these more modern steam locomotives (which I know isn't the most interesting or exciting topic 😄). I'm really want to understand more about what the cradle does, and how the rear weight of the cab and firebox is distributed to the trailing truck (it has something to do with "heart rockers" I believe). I recently bought a copy of the 1925 Locomotive Cyclopedia, which has tons of knowledge, but it's still hard making sense from the technical drawings.
    I'm debating on purchasing UP 844 1.5" scale model drawings to study and understand more about every nut and bolt of these machines. The 7.25" gauge model is so large, the designer even included prototypical frames and suspension. Studying live steam locomotive drawings has been helpful as their designs tend to be simpler.

  • @bibliotek42
    @bibliotek42 Рік тому

    I need to watch this when less tired! But excellent graphics!! I'd love to know how you did them. They're fabulous!

  • @sgtfoxhound
    @sgtfoxhound Місяць тому

    Great explanation of the valve gear is there one for Stevenson value gear

  • @simonjelley
    @simonjelley 7 місяців тому

    Fantastic video. Can’t wait for the Baker video. Also hoping a Stephenson’s valve gear video isn’t out of the question?

  • @videoviewer2008
    @videoviewer2008 Рік тому

    Excellent lecture. Wow.

  • @TERRYBIGGENDEN
    @TERRYBIGGENDEN Рік тому

    Wow-this is an abso;utely brilliant presentation. I will be watching he others with relish as well! :-)

  • @BobN54
    @BobN54 Рік тому

    "it would be impossible to have two separate eccentrics on an outside valve gear". It was done at least once, with a single experimental example of an LMS Stanier Black 5 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Stanier_Class_5_4-6-0_4767). It was preserved and can still be seen.

  • @piotrjanik93
    @piotrjanik93 10 місяців тому

    I watched both episodes a lot earlier, but never commented on them untill now. These are superb videos when it comes to explaining locomotive valve gear and valves! I am very invested in this subject as of late and can't wait for more installments! Can we expect more valve gears like of the dual eccentric type (Allan & Gooch) or should we look forward to similar valve gears to Walschaerts-Heusinger and Baker? Will poppet/cam valve gears also be discussed? i.e. Caprotti, Franklin, etc.

  • @lolroflpmsl
    @lolroflpmsl Рік тому

    The one loco I can think of that runs "backwards" is the SP Cab Forward - they adjusted the linkages to account for this.

  • @willi-fg2dh
    @willi-fg2dh Рік тому

    Walschaerts Valve gear, a mechanical analog computer.
    good 'splainin, too.
    steam locomotives are some of the most impressive machines ever built . . . everything hasapurpose . . . everything moves!

  • @terrydouglas4022
    @terrydouglas4022 11 місяців тому

    Good explanation!

  • @davidjacobs-uw3sj
    @davidjacobs-uw3sj Рік тому

    One more syllable please: Kanawha, years ago I worked in the Capitol of West Virginia in Kanawha County. Had the pleasure of watching these engines pull the fall foliage train.

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 Рік тому

    Going to have to watch that again. . . after I look up some terms, like “Trunnion”

  • @dermax1254
    @dermax1254 Рік тому

    Are there some plans with measurements or exact proportions available? I'd like to try such a gear in CAD.

  • @railfanmaximstill7279
    @railfanmaximstill7279 Рік тому +1

    Can you try and explain UP #5511's Valve Gear it's very much so different than the one shown here

  • @drby0788
    @drby0788 Рік тому +1

    Damn dude you definitely have a voice for radio lol

  • @LeonardMiyata
    @LeonardMiyata 10 місяців тому

    Some more advance related subjects that would be nice to cover.
    For compound locomotives (e.g. mallets) is there anything to prevent the condition where the high pressure cylinder is in exhaust stage, while the low pressure cylinder has its intake blocked, or is some kind of buffer/surge chamber used to handle this ???
    In the case of of locomotives with 3 steam cylinders, how is the center cylinder power and control linkages connected to the locomotive drive chain ???
    Some locomotives had provisions for a 'booster', a low speed steam motor that can be located on the locomotive trailing wheels, or on one of the tender wheels to provide an addition 'boost' to start a heavy train moving from a full stop. I have not seen anything on UA-cam on how these 'boosters' operate. Can something be produced to cover this ???

  • @patricksommerville463
    @patricksommerville463 3 місяці тому

    At 27:22, this set up is used in garratts we're the rear engine is travelling backwards

  • @75Bird455
    @75Bird455 Рік тому +1

    This was an outstanding video! A question though - why setup for indirect gear at all? What possible benefits are there?

    • @stanfischer6175
      @stanfischer6175 Рік тому

      Makes me wonder too, ALCO setup locomotives this way. Found this really cheesey movie titled Boxcar Bertha, was filmed on the Reader RR in Arkansas. They were running their ex millitary 2-8-0 and the I quickly noted its indirect motion.

  • @dansrailways1
    @dansrailways1 3 місяці тому

    Very useful thanks!

  • @johnbullaro6788
    @johnbullaro6788 Рік тому

    you are one very smart man to no all this

  • @garyakirsch
    @garyakirsch Рік тому

    With every correction link I can hardly wait to see which new correction link requires another correction link. Sincerely, Rube Goldberg.

  • @jeffcampsall5435
    @jeffcampsall5435 10 місяців тому

    Very well done 👍 did you do the animation too?

  • @Bigbuddyandblue
    @Bigbuddyandblue Рік тому

    My brother-in-law is an eccentric crank!

  • @eehabkhalil5175
    @eehabkhalil5175 Рік тому

    thank you

  • @markbarber7839
    @markbarber7839 Рік тому

    Very interesting thanks!

  • @hansmuster6004
    @hansmuster6004 Рік тому

    Superb! Thanks a lot.

  • @mitchcornacchia968
    @mitchcornacchia968 Рік тому

    PURE GENIUS!!!!!!!!!

  • @toddmarshall7573
    @toddmarshall7573 Рік тому

    What's the history of these? How long did they operate with sub-optimal designs before somebody got it right?

  • @fredjacobs
    @fredjacobs Рік тому

    totally awesome!

  • @Pentium100MHz
    @Pentium100MHz Рік тому

    Great video!
    I have one question though - is there any advantage in using indirect motion? If it was used in some locomotives, then their designers must have chosen to do so for some real reason and not just wanting to be different.Were those locomotives expected to run backward more or something else?

    • @CipiRipi-in7df
      @CipiRipi-in7df Рік тому

      Think on switching locomotives, operating in ports, depots and railway triage. They move a lot back and forth, at low speeds (so a breaking linkage won't lead to major damage), but they move backward at least as much as forward (if not more). For them, indirect motion may be a viable option.

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 10 місяців тому

    Ummmm....I Love this video
    Thank you, that is all

  • @johnbullaro6788
    @johnbullaro6788 Рік тому

    how do you no all this stuff on valve gear

  • @frederickwise5238
    @frederickwise5238 Рік тому

    Ahhh but, you didnt mention what is REALLY going to happen SINCE the hanger on THE OPPOSITE SIDE isnt likely to break also. Major opposite motions!! I think something similar is what happened to the NYC loco years ago - and the side rod looked like a pretzel. There is a UTube but danged if I can find it again or I'd post the link.

  • @PenninkJacob
    @PenninkJacob Рік тому

    AWESOME!👍

  • @MarkScully-l4n
    @MarkScully-l4n Рік тому

    how efficient could a steam engine be made with electronic valve control?

  • @kpdvw
    @kpdvw Рік тому

    what if any are the differences between Walschaerts and Heusinger ?

    • @felixtheswiss
      @felixtheswiss Рік тому

      No difference, just another name in German speaking countries for the same thing.

  • @awildjared1396
    @awildjared1396 Рік тому

    Will gresley conjugated valve gear be covered?

    • @commissarcarl1700
      @commissarcarl1700 Рік тому

      If I was a betting man, probably not. The Chesapeake and Ohio never used that to my knowledge, and this is their historical society.
      I would expect baker, and Franklin type A and type B poppet valves to be covered.

  • @johnbullaro6788
    @johnbullaro6788 Рік тому

    are u the same guy that does other train videos with the fence dehind him and sume train stuff on the fenc

  • @adeeponionbrah
    @adeeponionbrah Рік тому

    Now you can address side rod accommodation of independent driver axle motion over a lump in the track when roller bearings are used. I maintain roller bearing drivers clearance’s cannot accommodate independent axle motion vertically. Eh?

    • @mgoodman312
      @mgoodman312 Рік тому

      I asked this question in a different forum; someone did the math for a given wheel spacing (rod length) and driving wheel elevation difference -I think I specced 5' wheel spacing and 1" rise. The person concluded that the additional length could be accommodated with an almost imperceptible length change that could be supplied by the slop in the system - even roller bearings. I.e., not much clearance on the crankpin / bearing surfaces (pin / race / roller / race / rod or pin / floating bushing / busing / rod) *could* be enough. I had to trust his math, but the logic seemed reasonable.

  • @mwand89
    @mwand89 Рік тому

    I hope this has to do with raising funds for building new 21st century steam locomotives.

  • @jamesjette4343
    @jamesjette4343 Рік тому

    A++