I'm a League lover first and foremost, by why do we think we can only support AFL or NRL? Baseball, NFL and the NBA all work, dont see arguments over people supporting other teams in different sports even in that divisive country. AFL had more states to contend with, whilst the NRL have a stranglehold on QLD and NSW so can pressure those states. I for one just can't wait til both AFL and NRL are back
Same! As an AFL diehard in Newcastle, I feel this divide as Newy is a rugby league heartland. I love watching knights games with my mates and they love watching Hawthorn and Sydney games. Why do we have to be divided? We are two entirely different sports, do we really have to constantly compare each other? I want to see not only AFL and NRL grow big, but the NBL, Ice Hockey and other sports grow big in Australia. The whole “Code War” is just media hype. Let us enjoy the sports we have in our country!
@@cognito8325 You're delusional. There's a lot of Black people in the MLB but most of them are Dominican. There's a few East Asians too. Nevertheless, literally nobody argues between those sports leagues. They just ignore it if they're not into it.
I agree with you but to play devil's advocate, they are both 'football' codes. The NFL, NBA and baseball are completely different sports, while AFL and NRL share quite a few similarities, and they both fall under the football umbrella. I personally watch both sports, but I can understand why it might be hard for some people to follow two different 'football' codes.
There is some speculation that some stadiums already rely heavily on recorded sounds. Often there is a massive roar immediately after a goal and you look around you and basically no one is saying anything, they aren't even clapping yet. So if it happens at the stadium anyway, then the tv channels can just plug into what the stadiums are doing.
@@TheGeneral92 Also (Soccer is football) &/or vice versa (Football is soccer) depends on both which Country &/or Continent of World which they refer it too of course. & you very right of what you said is that (Rugby is Union) of course. If people do just say only Rugby in General, THEN I Wouldn't know exactly in which Rugby Football Code that they referring to in any conversation wise at all which is very confusing and if they do say either one of League or Union &/or even perhaps Both of Them altogether THEN I would know of exactly of what they are talking about &/or referring to of course.
Having watch both NRL n AFL, it’s great to football back but not sure if it’s fair season of footy matches n teams training situations. When watching on TV I don’t take notice of crowd numbers but the game. Don’t forget there no country footy been play this year which rural n regional city’s are suffering financially.
AFL does not need to be back right now. They could survive without any action for a few months. The NRL could not survive. The AFL also have had more obstacles to overcome as a more national game. The AFL has done nothing wrong
The circumstances are irrelevant - the NRL has done more to get its competition back up and running, and as a result, its fans are happier than the AFL's.
@@TheJonkerr7 NRL players can walk down the main Street of Melbourne unknown. And the crowds aren't that great, Eels v Storm in the finals last year was not a sellout.
@@kurn2505 I'd recognise at least a couple of players from most teams, the clubs that have been going well and the clubs that I like I am more likely to know players of. AFL on the other hand, I'd probably know more players than NRL.
@@TheJonkerr7 Also you forgot to mention the other football code of soccer in which there's a very big following & support both here in Australia & New Zealand especially both of our Men's & Women's A-League Competitions and besides that last year in (2023 Twenty Twenty Three) is that both Countries of Australia & New Zealand who both shared & hosted the (2023 Twenty Twenty Three) FIFA Women's Football World Cup Soccer Tournament from the (20th) July to the (20th) August from &/or of last year of course.
As a Bronco's supporter I was so upset the fact I watched them lose again. Asa Carlton supporter I was happy I didn't have to watch the Baggers lose again true story lol
The real differences between both Football Codes of Rugby League Football & Australian Rules Football which are' (1 ONE) Rugby League Football is originated from England as an English Football Code from the North of England played mainly in both Lancashire & Yorkshire Counties and besides according to Wikipedia is that the Rugby league Football Code is being played in over (70 Seventy) Countries Globally Worldwide Internationally. But however, Papua New Guinea is the only country to have Rugby League as its National Sport (4 Four) countries - Australia, England, France, and New Zealand - have teams that play at a professional level. (45 Forty-Five) National Teams are ranked by the (RLIF Rugby League International Federation) and a further (32 Thirty-Two) are officially recognized and unranked. The strongest rugby league nations are Australia, England, New Zealand, Samoa and Tonga. Very Unfortunately & Very Sadly that there are only just (2 Two) Rugby League Football Confederations which are (1 ONE) ERL European Rugby League, (2 Two) APRL Asia-Pacific Rugby League. We do have both of the (NRL National Rugby League) in Australia & the Super League in both France & England especially the Rugby League Football Challenge Cup Finals as in other words Betfred Challenge Cup Finals being played at Wembley Stadium in London which is equivalent the same in the Soccer FA Cup Finals also being played at the very same venue of Wembley Stadium in London of course. The Rugby League Football Code is the (3rd Third) World Cup Football Code behind both Soccer & Rugby Union Football Codes as far as the World Cups are concerned and Rugby League Football Code can also speak in either Some &/or Most Languages in Volumes and beside that the Rugby League Football Code is a Team Sport with a Participation Football &/or Sporting Code for all Men, Women & both Boys and Girls from all different age groups & various backgrounds and even also including the (LGBTIQA+) meaning Sexual Orientation/s People &/or Players as well too & also different levels of playing Starting from the Beginners to all the way to the top level/s of the Experienced. Rugby League Football Code is also being played in all Schools, Colleges, Universities, Clubs, Social Community Teams &/or Clubs, & even been played in the Military Armed Services in either Some &/or Most of the Armies, Navies & the Air Forces around the World. Rugby League Football Code is (NOT) any of as such, Olympic Sport at all, Commonwealth Games Sport at all but I hope that eventually that there will be a change to have &/or include the Rugby League Football Code to be added &/or included in both of the Olympic Games & the Commonwealth Games to join up along with both Soccer & Rugby Union Football in both of these Very Big International Sporting Events of course. During the (2021Twenty Twenty-One) Rugby League World Cup, (IRL International Rugby League) chairman Troy Grant announced that he was pushing for a Rugby League Football (9 Nines) Tournament to be introduced to the (2032 Twenty Thirty-Two) Summer Olympics in Brisbane as well as a Wheelchair Tournament to be introduced to the Paralympics of course. (2 TWO) Australian Rules Code is our very true National Football Code of Australia being played all over Country Rugby The Australian Rules Football Code again can also speak in either Some &/or Most Languages in Volumes and beside that the Australian Rules Football Code again is also a Team Sport with a Participation Football &/or Sporting Code for all Men, Women & both Boys and Girls from all different age groups & various backgrounds and even also including the (LGBTIQA+) meaning Sexual Orientation/s People &/or Players as well too & also different levels of playing Starting from the Beginners to all the way to the top level/s of the Experienced. Australian Rules Football is also being played in all Schools, Colleges, Universities, Clubs, Social Community Teams &/or Clubs, & even been played in the Military Armed Services in all of the Army, Navy & the Air Force in Australia. & according to Wikipedia in the title heading of (Geography of Australian rules football) says that Australian rules football is played in more than (60 Sixty) Countries Globally Internationally Worldwide. By (2017 Twenty Seventeen) more than (26 Twenty-Six) Nations (excluding Australia) had contested the Australian Football International Cup, the highest level of Worldwide Competition. But however, there are (5 Five) AFL Confederations which are, (1 One) AFL Europe, (2 Two) AFL Asia, (3 Three) Africa, (4 Four) North America, (5 Five) AFL South Pacific. & besides that, there's an Australian Rules Football organization in Melbourne, Victoria called the (AFI Australian Football International) and according to their Website Page is that they do have (7 Seven) Confederations which are, (1 One) AFI Europe, (2 Two) AFI Asia, (3 Three) AFI Africa, (4 Four) AFI Pacific, (5 Five) AFI USA, (6 Six) AFI Latin America, (7 Seven) Olympics. The information on their (Australian Football International) says (Olympic Footy) FOOTY 9s Nines AT THE OLYMPICS AFI’s long-term objective is to secure the inclusion of Footy 9s Nines at &/or in the (2040 Twenty Forty) Olympic Games. We know this is not going to happen overnight, and a lot of hard work must be done to achieve this goal. Other sports, however, have shown that it can be done. We are keen to follow in the footsteps of Rugby 7s Sevens, which is now an Olympic sport after making its debut at the (2016 Twenty Sixteen) Olympic Games in Rio in Brazil. Footy 9s is similar to Rugby 7s Sevens, in that an immediate connection is made to the sport, with added reference to the number of players on the field. The sports market is changing. Sport climbing, skateboarding, surfing and even breakdancing have also been included in the Olympic Games in recent times. Further, the (2032 Twenty Thirty-Two) Olympic Games in Brisbane are a tremendous opportunity to see Footy 9s Nines included as a demonstration sport & also including our Rugby League Football 9s Nines, as well too of course. Just simply because even that our Australian Rules Football Code is being played in more than (60 Sixty) Countries Globally Worldwide Internationally as such it DOESN'T Mean it's a World Cup Football Code at all & also DOESN'T Mean even to make it an Olympic Games Sport at all & finally DOESN'T Mean &/or make it a Commonwealth Games Sport at all either of course.
AFL makes more money and is the most popular sport to watch on tv when it comes to Australian sport. If nrl was the country’s best sport why leave SA and WA out?
What's wrong with liking and watching both sports? The problem with afl supporters is you all hate every other sport, but when that sport has big games like state of origin, you all watch and act like you are all experts on the sport you know nothing about and hate. Hypocrites. Well sorry, not afl fans, melbourne people who are afl fans. I mean you melbourne people cry because Geelong want to play home games in Geelong. Sooks
Mate, Victorians are always gunna know than you blockheads from new south wales and queensland. You copied state of origin from AFL to begin with! We don't hate Rugby league it's just so boring to watch mate.
@kevin Nathan Is that you Jeff Kennett? When was last time you saw a game you insular Mexican? Game has been sped up for add sufferers like yourself: and I have seen plenty of “ boring” AFL games, especially when they miss from in front, try sitting through gridiron, but it’s what you grew up with, innit...
Mate AFL fans are not on their Pat Malone in dissing the other codes!!! Ray Masters is a point in case! There are always those who love one/hate the other but there also plenty like me who really enjoy all the codes - aussie rules, league and union.
@@Kevv-d8f is that why you Victorians cry that Geelong want to play home games in geelong and not melbourne? Because you will always know more than blackheads from other states? You vics literally are the worst australians especially melbourne people. Most up yourselves people I've ever come across. You people just like your state, shitty city and crappy cold weather are a joke. You have 1 competitive grand final every 5 years and 3/4 of the games are boring blowouts. Not to mention the obvious favortism given to certain melbourne clubs and the massive vic bias.
@@jameshoneysettJDHCreations Mate I go for Geelong what's the issue here? The AFL is not biased to Victorian clubs mate you've got to be kidding me. Victorians aren't convicts mate so they can handle to think themselves that's why you reckon they're up themselves. You've got no idea mate. The NRL grand final measures with an ordinary AFL game in excitement. Settle down blockhead
@@pabloneizion2592 the only times you see kick-catch-kick-catch goal is when one team is thrashing the other so at the end they are just passing the ball around the ground, it rarely ever happens though.
I'm a League lover first and foremost, by why do we think we can only support AFL or NRL? Baseball, NFL and the NBA all work, dont see arguments over people supporting other teams in different sports even in that divisive country. AFL had more states to contend with, whilst the NRL have a stranglehold on QLD and NSW so can pressure those states. I for one just can't wait til both AFL and NRL are back
They do tho. NBA and NFL are widely regarded as sports of colour and MLB and NHL the opposite.
Compare the population of USA and AU lol
Same! As an AFL diehard in Newcastle, I feel this divide as Newy is a rugby league heartland. I love watching knights games with my mates and they love watching Hawthorn and Sydney games. Why do we have to be divided? We are two entirely different sports, do we really have to constantly compare each other? I want to see not only AFL and NRL grow big, but the NBL, Ice Hockey and other sports grow big in Australia. The whole “Code War” is just media hype. Let us enjoy the sports we have in our country!
@@cognito8325 You're delusional. There's a lot of Black people in the MLB but most of them are Dominican. There's a few East Asians too. Nevertheless, literally nobody argues between those sports leagues. They just ignore it if they're not into it.
I agree with you but to play devil's advocate, they are both 'football' codes. The NFL, NBA and baseball are completely different sports, while AFL and NRL share quite a few similarities, and they both fall under the football umbrella. I personally watch both sports, but I can understand why it might be hard for some people to follow two different 'football' codes.
There is some speculation that some stadiums already rely heavily on recorded sounds. Often there is a massive roar immediately after a goal and you look around you and basically no one is saying anything, they aren't even clapping yet. So if it happens at the stadium anyway, then the tv channels can just plug into what the stadiums are doing.
Spot on Kane. Loving the rugby, just happy to have live sport back on. My team Wests Tigers did the business too. Makes it even better.
*rugby league. (Rugby is union)
@@TheGeneral92 shut up
GO TIGERS
go the mf tigers
@@TheGeneral92 Also (Soccer is football) &/or vice versa (Football is soccer) depends on both which Country &/or Continent of World which they refer it too of course. & you very right of what you said is that (Rugby is Union) of course.
If people do just say only Rugby in General, THEN I Wouldn't know exactly in which Rugby Football Code that they referring to in any conversation wise at all which is very confusing and if they do say either one of League or Union &/or even perhaps Both of Them altogether THEN I would know of exactly of what they are talking about &/or referring to of course.
Having watch both NRL n AFL, it’s great to football back but not sure if it’s fair season of footy matches n teams training situations. When watching on TV I don’t take notice of crowd numbers but the game. Don’t forget there no country footy been play this year which rural n regional city’s are suffering financially.
AFL does not need to be back right now. They could survive without any action for a few months. The NRL could not survive. The AFL also have had more obstacles to overcome as a more national game. The AFL has done nothing wrong
Eli_021
I agree, better to be safe then sorry ay
The circumstances are irrelevant - the NRL has done more to get its competition back up and running, and as a result, its fans are happier than the AFL's.
Milo Chanel
For a short time, but AFL fans always come out on top, because we are AFL fans - enough said.
Milo Chanel What an illogical comment. The NRL has done more to get their competition back because they need to, exactly what I said.
@@milochanel9491 lol who even watches the rugby?
NRL creating an interest in the Melbourne? Not sure about this.
There's interest here already. I like all of them, union, league, aussie rules...born and bred aussie rules player and supporter but enjoy the others.
@@TheJonkerr7 NRL players can walk down the main Street of Melbourne unknown. And the crowds aren't that great, Eels v Storm in the finals last year was not a sellout.
@@kurn2505 I'd recognise at least a couple of players from most teams, the clubs that have been going well and the clubs that I like I am more likely to know players of.
AFL on the other hand, I'd probably know more players than NRL.
@@TheJonkerr7 Also you forgot to mention the other football code of soccer in which there's a very big following & support both here in Australia & New Zealand especially both of our Men's & Women's A-League Competitions and besides that last year in (2023 Twenty Twenty Three) is that both Countries of Australia & New Zealand who both shared & hosted the (2023 Twenty Twenty Three) FIFA Women's Football World Cup Soccer Tournament from the (20th) July to the (20th) August from &/or of last year of course.
@@GaryLorenz-t7c A-league is in on a different schedule to the other football codes though.
his not having a crack about the AFL, its about Carros comments and his i told you so from last month
NRL 1, AFL 0
Take it over the last 15 years and it is AFL about 20, NRL 1.
Kane nailed it again
As a Bronco's supporter I was so upset the fact I watched them lose again.
Asa Carlton supporter I was happy I didn't have to watch the Baggers lose again true story lol
Go get em Kano!
Kane is the biggest flog in afl media
“Fish and chip paper”; great call by Llordo 😂
I'm no Rugby League fan, but I have to respect their leadership & innovation!!
NRL much better game than AFL. no boby plays or knows the game outside Australia. Cornes is right, AFL is to bias to there game.
Shut up
Can’t we just enjoy both? They’re both amazing sports in their respective ways. The whole divide isn’t necessary
And the crowds suggest otherwise doesn’t it? As a sporting product
Aussie rules is arguably the best sport in the world.
@@latenightlogic Its very subjective lol, how can you make such an absolute statment like that?
There he goes again, Mt Negativity.
Haha,it’s second fiddle no longer.
TJ is a pain in the arse, get someone else to host.
I agree. He sucks as host.
German soccer doing crowd noise even better
The real differences between both Football Codes of Rugby League Football & Australian Rules Football which are'
(1 ONE) Rugby League Football is originated from England as an English Football Code from the North of England played mainly in both Lancashire & Yorkshire Counties and besides according to Wikipedia is that the Rugby league Football Code is being played in over (70 Seventy) Countries Globally Worldwide Internationally. But however, Papua New Guinea is the only country to have Rugby League as its National Sport (4 Four) countries - Australia, England, France, and New Zealand - have teams that play at a professional level. (45 Forty-Five) National Teams are ranked by the (RLIF Rugby League International Federation) and a further (32 Thirty-Two) are officially recognized and unranked. The strongest rugby league nations are Australia, England, New Zealand, Samoa and Tonga. Very Unfortunately & Very Sadly that there are only just (2 Two) Rugby League Football Confederations which are (1 ONE) ERL European Rugby League, (2 Two) APRL Asia-Pacific Rugby League. We do have both of the (NRL National Rugby League) in Australia & the Super League in both France & England especially the Rugby League Football Challenge Cup Finals as in other words Betfred Challenge Cup Finals being played at Wembley Stadium in London which is equivalent the same in the Soccer FA Cup Finals also being played at the very same venue of Wembley Stadium in London of course.
The Rugby League Football Code is the (3rd Third) World Cup Football Code behind both Soccer & Rugby Union Football Codes as far as the World Cups are concerned and Rugby League Football Code can also speak in either Some &/or Most Languages in Volumes and beside that the Rugby League Football Code is a Team Sport with a Participation Football &/or Sporting Code for all Men, Women & both Boys and Girls from all different age groups & various backgrounds and even also including the (LGBTIQA+) meaning Sexual Orientation/s People &/or Players as well too & also different levels of playing Starting from the Beginners to all the way to the top level/s of the Experienced.
Rugby League Football Code is also being played in all Schools, Colleges, Universities, Clubs, Social Community Teams &/or Clubs, & even been played in the Military Armed Services in either Some &/or Most of the Armies, Navies & the Air Forces around the World.
Rugby League Football Code is (NOT) any of as such, Olympic Sport at all, Commonwealth Games Sport at all but I hope that eventually that there will be a change to have &/or include the Rugby League Football Code to be added &/or included in both of the Olympic Games & the Commonwealth Games to join up along with both Soccer & Rugby Union Football in both of these Very Big International Sporting Events of course.
During the (2021Twenty Twenty-One) Rugby League World Cup, (IRL International Rugby League) chairman Troy Grant announced that he was pushing for a Rugby League Football (9 Nines) Tournament to be introduced to the (2032 Twenty Thirty-Two) Summer Olympics in Brisbane as well as a Wheelchair Tournament to be introduced to the Paralympics of course.
(2 TWO) Australian Rules Code is our very true National Football Code of Australia being played all over Country Rugby The Australian Rules Football Code again can also speak in either Some &/or Most Languages in Volumes and beside that the Australian Rules Football Code again is also a Team Sport with a Participation Football &/or Sporting Code for all Men, Women & both Boys and Girls from all different age groups & various backgrounds and even also including the (LGBTIQA+) meaning Sexual Orientation/s People &/or Players as well too & also different levels of playing Starting from the Beginners to all the way to the top level/s of the Experienced.
Australian Rules Football is also being played in all Schools, Colleges, Universities, Clubs, Social Community Teams &/or Clubs, & even been played in the Military Armed Services in all of the Army, Navy & the Air Force in Australia.
& according to Wikipedia in the title heading of (Geography of Australian rules football) says that Australian rules football is played in more than (60 Sixty) Countries Globally Internationally Worldwide. By (2017 Twenty Seventeen) more than (26 Twenty-Six) Nations (excluding Australia) had contested the Australian Football International Cup, the highest level of Worldwide Competition. But however, there are (5 Five) AFL Confederations which are, (1 One) AFL Europe, (2 Two) AFL Asia, (3 Three) Africa, (4 Four) North America, (5 Five) AFL South Pacific. & besides that, there's an Australian Rules Football organization in Melbourne, Victoria called the (AFI Australian Football International) and according to their Website Page is that they do have (7 Seven) Confederations which are, (1 One) AFI Europe, (2 Two) AFI Asia, (3 Three) AFI Africa, (4 Four) AFI Pacific, (5 Five) AFI USA, (6 Six) AFI Latin America, (7 Seven) Olympics. The information on their (Australian Football International) says
(Olympic Footy) FOOTY 9s Nines AT THE OLYMPICS
AFI’s long-term objective is to secure the inclusion of Footy 9s Nines at &/or in the (2040 Twenty Forty) Olympic Games.
We know this is not going to happen overnight, and a lot of hard work must be done to achieve this goal. Other sports, however, have shown that it can be done.
We are keen to follow in the footsteps of Rugby 7s Sevens, which is now an Olympic sport after making its debut at the (2016 Twenty Sixteen) Olympic Games in Rio in Brazil.
Footy 9s is similar to Rugby 7s Sevens, in that an immediate connection is made to the sport, with added reference to the number of players on the field.
The sports market is changing. Sport climbing, skateboarding, surfing and even breakdancing have also been included in the Olympic Games in recent times.
Further, the (2032 Twenty Thirty-Two) Olympic Games in Brisbane are a tremendous opportunity to see Footy 9s Nines included as a demonstration sport & also including our Rugby League Football 9s Nines, as well too of course.
Just simply because even that our Australian Rules Football Code is being played in more than (60 Sixty) Countries Globally Worldwide Internationally as such it DOESN'T Mean it's a World Cup Football Code at all & also DOESN'T Mean even to make it an Olympic Games Sport at all & finally DOESN'T Mean &/or make it a Commonwealth Games Sport at all either of course.
I can understand why Eddie Mcguire wanted drown Caro.
Disgusting...
cornes contract will not be renewed
AFL makes more money and is the most popular sport to watch on tv when it comes to Australian sport. If nrl was the country’s best sport why leave SA and WA out?
because Rugby League is predominantly NSW and QLD sport. SA and WA is AFL states.
@@browerpule8859 And they still loose to a state that doesn’t care for Rugby every year lmaoo
@@themasonexperience6844 lose*
In AFL they are a lil bit more fitter.
In NRL they are way more tougher.
NRL WINS
What's wrong with liking and watching both sports? The problem with afl supporters is you all hate every other sport, but when that sport has big games like state of origin, you all watch and act like you are all experts on the sport you know nothing about and hate. Hypocrites. Well sorry, not afl fans, melbourne people who are afl fans. I mean you melbourne people cry because Geelong want to play home games in Geelong. Sooks
Mate, Victorians are always gunna know than you blockheads from new south wales and queensland. You copied state of origin from AFL to begin with! We don't hate Rugby league it's just so boring to watch mate.
@kevin Nathan Is that you Jeff Kennett? When was last time you saw a game you insular Mexican? Game has been sped up for add sufferers like yourself: and I have seen plenty of “ boring” AFL games, especially when they miss from in front, try sitting through gridiron, but it’s what you grew up with, innit...
Mate AFL fans are not on their Pat Malone in dissing the other codes!!! Ray Masters is a point in case!
There are always those who love one/hate the other but there also plenty like me who really enjoy all the codes - aussie rules, league and union.
@@Kevv-d8f is that why you Victorians cry that Geelong want to play home games in geelong and not melbourne? Because you will always know more than blackheads from other states? You vics literally are the worst australians especially melbourne people. Most up yourselves people I've ever come across. You people just like your state, shitty city and crappy cold weather are a joke. You have 1 competitive grand final every 5 years and 3/4 of the games are boring blowouts. Not to mention the obvious favortism given to certain melbourne clubs and the massive vic bias.
@@jameshoneysettJDHCreations Mate I go for Geelong what's the issue here? The AFL is not biased to Victorian clubs mate you've got to be kidding me. Victorians aren't convicts mate so they can handle to think themselves that's why you reckon they're up themselves. You've got no idea mate. The NRL grand final measures with an ordinary AFL game in excitement. Settle down blockhead
Is there a more punchable head in AFL than Kane Cornes?
Well, there is no larger head than Kane Cornes
It's all about money and the NRL is going to be making it. Cornes is right AFL is behind the times. In these times NRL is much better to watch.
NRL's way tougher, there's more things going on. The AFL is just kick-catch-kick-catch-kick-goal for 80 minutes
@@pabloneizion2592 kick catch kick Catch goal doesn’t even happen often, maybe watch some games first
@@pabloneizion2592 the only times you see kick-catch-kick-catch goal is when one team is thrashing the other so at the end they are just passing the ball around the ground, it rarely ever happens though.
I love afl but I’m starting to see how useless this game is!
It doesn’t generate any money at all it just takes.
lol..ok
Cornes, the dill as always, gets it wrong again. This aged very poorly.