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VAAI SAVADAAL - Розваги
Violence in Karnan was made only after people didn't get what they wanted. They didn't tell Violence as primary thing...vera valiye illa nu thaa pannirpanga.
Yeah...
True
Pariyerum perumal la kutham solla oru point kooda illa but karnan and maamannan la la kora sollurathuku oru sila points iruku
Athu yen na...kenjura mari edutha pudikkum ungaluku..ana athey ethirthu poradura mari na pudikaathu....
@@Ranjith-vt9ftivanuga adhu than ethir paakuranuga.. subtle caste kannis... Ivan solra padi patha vetrimaran edukurathum thappu thana avan vada chennai la kaatatha violence ah rowdyism pannuuvom nu dialogue vachavan 😂 asuran la iladha violence ah karnan la irudhuchu ? Vetrimaran matum than apdi padam edukanum mathavan edutha kenjanum nu ethir pakuran ithuve jaathi mindset thaan
@@Ranjith-vt9ftadicha adi vangittu badhiluku pesuna adhu nalla padam. Adichavana thirupi adicha adhu thappu
@@Ranjith-vt9ft ottrumai ya irunga, ellaraiyum Manushana paarunga nu tha pariyerum perumal la ellathukum portray aachu, but karnan la apdi illa Inga kathi eduthu sanda poda venam nu sollala. Both karnan and maamanan la one side mattume tha pesirupaanga lower caste naale nallavanga maariyum, high caste naale kettavainga maariyum. 1960-80s aa Vida oru 50% neriya maariruku, apdi irukurappo entha padamum kathi eduthu sanda podu nu portray aachuna athu prechanala tha mudiyum. Na karnan and maamanan la Thirupi adichathu thappu nu solla. One side mattume biased aa pesama irukalam nu tha solluren. Arasiyal kaandi innaiku jaathi ya use pannuranga apdi irukurappo vettu kuthu nu scene vacha atha oru political issue vaa maathiruvaanga ithu naala namaku pariyerum perumal, madras maari oru nalla padam varamale poirum
@@chocoboyraam7460 maamannan la ellraium nallavanalaam kaata matane ... Vadivelu oda own caste le kaasa vaangitu avanuku against ah election nikkura mari scene irukume ne padatha oluga paakalaiya ???
7:20 I disagree, adicha thiruppi adipanga nu avangaluku therira varaikum. It won't stop.
Humans oda mentality ye vulnerable ah irukavanga kitta veeratha katrathu thana
I really appreciate your best understanding and explanation of your views about interval block scene and devar magan controversy bro. Amazed by your maturity and your script of conveying to the public.
It's a very good touch by giving black and white color to this video same as mamanan movie while showing the pain of mamanan. You are showing your pain about the movie.🕊
Adikkiravanukku vanmurai thappunu theriyalana thiruppi adikkiravanukku mattum yean theriyanum.....
Sema!
Sema point bro
Irundhalum maamannan ku SaNa music potrundha nalla irukkum. Yendha intense scene vandhalum SaNa oda background score dha nyabagathukku varudhu
Mari Selvaraj effect 😂 full black and white
Indha Thambi sariyaathaane pesudhu 👌👌
Good explanation bro
Very late video bro😅😅😅
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Big fan of u r works ❤
Superb Analysis & yet another quality content from u bro..The way ur handling sensitive topic makes u distinguished from others keep rocking
Maari selvaraj sir movie's சாரசி மனிதர்களின் உரிமையை கேட்கின்றன... 🔥💜📖தற்பெருமை பேசவில்லை. 🎬.
Maamannan - Jaadhi Veruppu Arasiyal
Naan innaikku date vara oru nalla social discrimination pathi theliva pesuna padam na adhu pariyerum perumal and Madras nu dhaan solluvan, idha oru artist ah oru creator point of view la soldran because oru cinema eppaiyum oru vaazhviyal aiyum oru edharthathaiyum serthu namakku oru pudhu ariva tharum nu namburan adha naan sonna andha rendu padam um senjidhu aana kaala, kabali, karnan, natchathiram nagargiradhu, even sarpatta parambara movie la sila portions oru caste ah propoganda pandra maari irukku... Enakku ivanga rendu peru padam edho oru Arasiyal nokkama theriyudhae thavira oru valarchi ah theriyala... Idhae Pa.Ranjith oru stage la sollirupparu edhukku thamizh thamizh nu soldringa thamizhan thamizh nu pesura ellarumae pirivinai vaadhigal nu sonnaru innaikku avaru avarado identity ah solli piriya dhana pakkararu? Oru social discrimination ah pathi kovatha vera endha medium la vena kattalam en cinema va choose pannanga rendu perum? Because idhanoda thakkam evalo thooram pogum nu theriyum easy ah ellaraiyum trigger panna mudiyum adha dhaan indha rendu perum ippo pandranga... I want the old Pa.Ranjith and Maari Selvaraj...
Aprm nan mela munna vara neicha en caste aalu thaan enna pathi rumors solluavanga.. No caste sonna no problom
@@saisurya4978 தலித் என்ற வார்த்தைக்கான அர்த்தமே அடிமை பட்டது போதும் எதிர்த்து நில் என்பது தான் பொருள் அது ஒன்னும் கெட்ட வார்த்த இல்லை. இதில் அடிமை பட்டு கிடக்கும் எல்லா சாதியும் அடங்கும் தமிழ்நாடு மட்டும் இல்ல இந்தியா முழுக்க இது பொருந்தும். இந்த தலித் என்ற வார்த்தைக்கு ஒரு சித்தாந்தம் உண்டு அம்பேத்கர் மாதிரி சமூக நீதிக்கு போராடிய தலைவர்கள் உண்டு ஆனால் தன்னை தமிழன் சொல்லிட்டு தமிழ் தேசியம் என்ற பெயரில் ஒலித்து கொள்ளும் இவர்கள் குடி பெருமை என்ற பெயரில் சாதியை தூக்கி பிடிப்பது தான் வேலை, எந்த சித்தாந்தமும் இல்லை இவர்கள் தலைவர்கள் என்று முன்னிறுத்தும் பல பேர் சமூக நீதிக்கு சிறிதும் சம்பந்தமில்லாதவர்கள் அதனால் தான் பா.ரஞ்சித் இவர்களை ஏற்பதில்லை.
@@saisurya4978Cristal clear bruh aana Athey samaiyam Muthaiya,Mohan G,Ks ravi kumar,Rv udhaya kumar mari aalungelam avanga caste embrace pandra reason???ivanga ellarum saathi padangal dhan edukranga oru pakkam atha glorify panniyum innoru pakam athunaala thanaku vantha problems ah soldranga....Intha renduhuku diff iruku bruh.
@@cu-lt Enna solla varinga bro puriyala enakku
Karnan film portrayed podiyankulam riots were a real village was massacred in a similar way yes he said violence is the only option because they were not even ready to listen their problems I think mari selvaraj depicted it in proper way
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அடிக்கும்போது, திருப்பி அடிக்காமல் தான் இத்தனை வருடங்கள் இருந்தார்கள் என்ன மாறியது?. திருப்பி அடித்தால் தான் சுயமரியாதை கிடைக்கும் என்றால் அடிக்கலாம். தவறில்லை.
Unga vidoes Nala irruku bro..I find ur views sensible. Also unga cinema taste are similar to mine so unga videos easy uh ennaku connect aaguthu
I love how,he makes the whole video in black n white like maamanan
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Ennaku matu video black and white la theriyutha?
Ellarukum apdi tha theriyum
last few seconds literally I am dead ra elei 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Apo apo video podu nae ella video um pathutan addict aaita nae un video ku ❤
9:22 last scene 🤣😂 🔥
4:54 😂😂😂 vada chennai la rowdysim pannuvom nu aaruva thookuna puratchi aana maari selavaraj panna thappu aam dei... Vetrimaran matum pesanum nu neneikura pathiya ithu thaan jaathi mindset 😂 Half boil makkan
If you have answer for this reply da
Thumbnail semaiya iruku bro unga videos la ❤
Respect for the creator for making the vdo in b/w
5 : 50....mela irukuravanga keela irukura people la adikumpodhu, unga kannuku adhu voilence ha theriyama oru jaadhi veri , jaadhi prob ha theriyudhu...adhey keela iruka adi vangina oruthen avana thirupi adicha adhu voilence ha promote panura maari nu solura bro sooper.....👍👍avanga la sera pana mudiyadhu...ana nanga thirumbi adicha voilence create aagudhu.....adhuku avanga adikamaely irukanum bro...ena porutha vara karnan oru seriyana padam.
Yow nee violence pathi pesura la avanga nelamaila irunthu partha than avanga Vali puriyum nee easy ah solliduva but oru bus nikka kuda stop illa evlo kastam theriyuma appo thiruppi adikkama kenjikittey iruppangala🤫🤫
Sitting on elephant is to showcase that even there caste people can capture the gigantic animal or afford it. Even today in north India few Dalits are not allowed to sit on horse for wedding ceremony. To portray that it was showing in the first place.
I'm waiting for this na
Violence is not answer to everything nu sonubga parunga arputham bro 🔥
vanmatha maraimugama kakna vaai savadaal
அய்யா அடக்குமுறைக்கான அடிகளை பெரும் நாங்கள் என்னாதான்யா பண்ணனும் சொன்னா பண்ணுவோம்..🤔திருப்பி அடிக்கவும் கூடாது, அடி வாங்கிட்டே இருக்கனுமாங்கயா ? கொஞ்சம் தெளிவாக சொல்லுங்கயா? இந்த ஏழப்பட்ட சனத்துக்கு..
எங்க ஊர்ல ஒதுக்கபட்ட தெருவுல வசிக்கும் எங்கள அடிக்கிற இல்ல திட்டுற மத்ததெருவாளுங்கள பாத்து ஏன் அடிக்கிறிங்கனு கேட்டா ஏதுத்து கேள்வி கேக்குரியாடானு 4 அடி சேத்து விழும்
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Village la innum caste irruku.. Atha statue vaikira alunga neraya peru irrukanga.. Caste vachuthan arasiyal pannuranga..but city la rich people vs poor people
Super bro
Mic mathitinga pola👌 clarity 🔥
Unmai bro❤Enakum pariyerum perumal movie ideology um rommmpa pudikum😌ana karnan ideology ye enaku suthama pudikala athum second half bro✨itha sonna yarum namapala
oruthan unga kalutha mela kaala vachi mithichu kolla paakuran , ana ungalala avana thaduka mudiyum ungal own abilityala . Appo enna pannuvinga ??! Amaithiye mukkiyam , om shanti nu avan konna kollatumnu irupingala , illa avan yaru enna kollurathukunu kaala vaari thallivittu , ungala kapathipingala??!
Ithuthan mari selvaraj , pa. Ranjith and vetrimaranla pesura arasiyal . Pariyerum perumal and madras mathiri padathulalalm antha prechanaigla sumugama mudika oru medium irunthuchu. Madras la makkal oda awareness , pariyerum perumal thanimanithanoda own gritt and effort nu . Ithe karnan and maamananlalam entha mediumum illaye ??! Orukaranga bayanthu policetayum collectortayum pona avanga adikanunga , makkalta oru thalntha jaathi aal arasiyal vathiya nina makkale jathi arasiyal panrangana , ungaloda response enna va irukum ??!
nama citylayum townlayum okkantu , intellectual a pesuvom ingala onnum illanu easya intha mathiri sollalam . Ana innum village regionsla intha kudumaila nadakuthu . Innum kuda water tankla malam podrathu , minister kovilku vara payana discriminate panrathu , anava kola panna oruthana support panni oru samugame support panrathu nra avalamla nadakathan seiyuthu !!
@@johnsona544 ellam theriyum nanum city side la illa Thoothukudi la oru village tha enakum enga entha mathiri adakku murai nadakuthunu theriyum ana ella visiyathukum vanmurai oru solution illa. Mariselvaraj pa. Ranjith vetrimaaran la atha pesuranga but matha ellam ok karnan la Mariselvaraj stand matum tha different athu tha enaku pudikala nu sollra. Asuran la same tha but athu vera reason illama pannuvaru sivasamy apadiyum kadaisila paiyan kita advice athu tha vetrimaaran political stand. Oru visiyam nammala crt ana destination ku tha kutitu pokuthu but thappana route la yo nu enaku thonuthu. Athu tha na solla vanthathu. Ella periya problems layum fight pannanum nu mudivu panni athu crt a ponathey illa. Lose la tha vanthiruku. Athu tha na solla vanthathu.
@@andyperumale7986 neenga mari selvaraj violence moolama karnanla deal pannathu thappunu solringala ??! Violence entha vithathulayum correct kedayathu . Ana antha padathula anga vera option e kedayathu nrathu than prechanye !! Neenga thoothukudi thane ??! Naanum thoothukudi townla irukuravan than . Inga nadantha kodiyankulam and maanjolai issuevayum base panni nadanthatha vachi vantha padamthan than karnan . Solla ponuna real incidentla itha vida koduramla nadanthuruku . Visarichu parunga !!
Ennoda previous commentla second para la , karnan padathula irukura situation a sollirupen . Antha mathiri edathula neenga sensible a mudiveduakanumnu solringala ??! Antha mathiri situation la enna panna mudiyumnu neengale sollunga !!!
Marupadiyum samarasam or lawfula deal pannanumnu sollathinga . Antha padathula antha oorkaranga , pakathu ooru periya aalu irunthu collector varaiku romba varshama alanjavanga than !! Athukaduthu nadanthathu than intha issue .
Good analysis
6.00 indha time la ninga kena thanama pesuna madhiri iruku bcoz adhuku munnadi scene la police station la oor makkala adichirupanga adhoda vilaivu dhan collector mattum dhan oorukulla varanum apdinu sonnanga. Adhe madhiri pariyerum Perumal maamannan madhiri climax la thirupi adicha en Andha madhiri solla kudadhunu solringa apdinu trla. Elite pulthish madhiri pesadhinga bro oruthana oru dhadava adika pazhaga vita Avan thirumba thirumba adhe dhan pannuvan adhuku oru dhadava thirupi adicha next time Avan yosipan idhathan maamannan movie la sollirupanga movie oda continuation oda review sollunga
True....
Atleast he did...❤🎉
Wow... black and white 🖤🤍
Nice thoughts in this video
Delay Naalum Detailed aah Irruku🪷 Congratulations!!! 🤝
Ending 😂😂😂
First like bro
Avalo vetti ya bro 😂illa Sunday rest aaa 😅
Thalaiva good night movie pathi oru video podunga😊
Ungloda cinema knowledge um , Society discrimination understanding knowledge um
Vera level bro
Im impress ❤❤❤❤
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Your opinion about KH233
Good analysis bro 👍
Another difference between Karnan is that in Maamannan there will be good & bad people on both sides.
That jallikattu example was spot on 🤌
Money can be accumulated and financial status can be changed. Caste cannot be changed. Once you understand this, everything becomes clearer.
5:20 One very good example of this is Oppenheimer. That conversation between Oppenheimer and Einstein in the climax is one of many places where Nolan portrays the idea of dropping the nuclear bomb a bad idea. In real life, Oppenheimer only regretted the fact that the bomb was not used against Germany. But in the movie, Oppenheimer clearly regretted the entire idea of creating the atomic bomb. Yes, showing the reality in movies is important but what's more important is the message the directors send through the movie as cinema is a major tool of conveying important problems and messages to people
தேவர் மகன் இசக்கி அப்படத்தில் ஒரு தேவர்( பிறமலைக்கள்ளன்) ஆகவே காட்டப்பட்டிருப்பார். ஆதாரம் அப்படத்தின் கோயில் பூட்டை உடைக்கும் போது அவர் பாடும் பாடல்.
3 movie is an hardhitting ur points is valid
Brother enakku onnu purila oru samuthayatha adichi kaya paduthuranga.. Atha kekka evanum vara maatinga.. Aana adi vaangura van nama yen thevai illama adivangurom nu yosichi.. Avan thiruppi adicha vanmuraiya thoondranganu soldringa... Appo avanga adichi kitte irupanga, avanga vaangitte irukanuma... Muthal adi vizha villai entral thiruppi adikka thevai illai...
Romba naal kalichu video eduthu pottalum thalaivan tharama video upload pandra and I think your point of view is clear
Bus Car comparison nice
Rest in peace OG Anchor 🛐💔
7:20 Intha exact line ah than RGV Rathasarithiram nu oru movie la solli iruparu. If possible make video about it bro
Last la vara audio enna matter 😂😂
Maaveeran review bro
Can someone explain the climax photo i didn't understood
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Point paa😮
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Bro y black and white but video as usual good vedio
Bro please konjam weekly once aachum video podunga bro 🙂
Enna bro video enakku mattum thaan black and white la varudha and background music enakku mattum dhaan kekalaiya illa unmailaiye background music illaiyaa
Yow Yevalo Naalya Un Video ku Wait Pandradhu 🙄🙄🙄
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Vunga content super bro 👍but romba iluthu iluthu pesadhinga pls
Good vedio
bro unga pov le oru nalla movieye edukura directors en sila neratule cringe panrage nu oru video podungle
Breaking bad discussion video podunga bro
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Ellam ok bro but adikkuravanga kitta adi vanganum nu solringa illa thadithu thiruppi adikkanuma oru vela adi vanganum na Avan epo epti adikkuratha nippatuvan .adikuravana thaduthu thiruppi adicha thana bro namma adi vangama irukka mudiyum illa athu thappuna adikkuravana thadukka ningale oru nalla vazhiya sollitu ponga bro kora solla therinja ungalukku vazhi solla theriyuma nu pakkalam....
Eppadi en manusual aapdiya soldra bro eppadi bro unakom enakom 100 percent sync bro
Yeen raasa yen manasulaa irunthathaa apdiyaaa solita bro ❤
Bro Maaveeran review podunga bro
Thala unga voice ku set aagiyachu ippo aala mathiruvingalo 🙄
Q&A video போடுவிங்களா bro
Bro i think your points are good. Karnan la violence eh than ore solution nu kaatunathu oru misleading than. But apdilam oru oore kasta pattu iruku oru bus kooda nipattama poi irukanga apdingratha oru grand audience ku convey pana movie la kadasiya hero va hero nu katrathukaga oru mass fight or violence scene vachathan oru mass viewers eh ulla iluka mudiyum nu yosichu pani irukalam nenakiren bro. But still violence than ore solution nu convey pananum nu eluthi iruka mataru nenakiren.
Karnan never advocates Violence as the only answer to Everything, 1. When karnan returns to the village he asks the villan to leave the villagers and he will surrender but after Kandbhiran statement karnan left with no choice to beheading him and when he comes back he doesn't celebrate instead he cries on the aftermath of events that he caused 2. Difference between P.permual and karnan is Atleast pariyerum has got opportunity to go to college but in karnan case he had seen her own sister die because of lack of bus to take her to hospital 3. karnan film is based on real life events , so it doesn't promote anything new
And if you say Karnan promote violence then in tamil cinema history no movie promoted violence as Kamal hassan Vikram and LCU does
Ellam seri ethukku black and white la video potrukka
Yow maaveeran review enga ya
Apo adicha adi vaangitu vandhuruviya broo 😂💥
May God Bless You Always Anna ❤
bro sec 2.42 which Movie name scene tell?
Point paa😮😮
Murpokku pesuravanga kuda oru sila vishayathu toxic than. There is no one 100% perfect. Mariselvaraj kitta erukurathu oru impropriety complex otherwise he is fine, we need like a those movies.
nama citylayum townlayum okkantu , intellectual a pesuvom ingala onnum illanu easya intha mathiri sollalam . Ana innum village regionsla intha kudumaila nadakuthu . Innum kuda water tankla malam podrathu , minister kovilku vara payana discriminate panrathu , anava kola panna oruthana support panni oru samugame support panrathu nra avalamla nadakathan seiyuthu !!
Mari selvaraj and ranjithla oppression a anubavichavanga !! Avanga patta kayatha solrathukum , athukana theerva amithiya convey panra murai ennanu solrathukum avangaluku urumai irukku .
@@johnsona544 brother niga solrathulam correct than first video fulla parunga and ennoda last two text(Message) aa padinga na solrathu purium.
@@sivaraman7189 avarum issue va understanda pannama than dude olararu . Karnanla and maamananla violence kaila eduthathukaga , mariselvaraj a violence edukanumnu thoondraru nringa . Appo ithuku badhil sollunga rendu perum .
Orukaranga bayanthu collectorta pona appo madhikala, police ta pona avanga adikanunga , makkalta oru thalntha jaathi aal arasiyal vathiya nina makkalum jathi arasiyal panrangavanoda oppress panrangana , unga response ennava irukum ??! Videola onnu sonnare , antha issuela avaru involve ayiruntha sumugama na valiya thedi poiruparunu . Intha violence kaila eduka karaname , patience a irunthu legal and lawfula theervu kedaikalanrathala than .
@@johnsona544 sari brother violence la erangi enna pannuvinga.
@@sivaraman7189 anniku violence appo edukalana , onnume illama avanga poirupanga , ivlo vai pesra neenga avangaloda issue nadanthathe theriyama suthitu irunthirupinga 🚶♂️🚶♂️ .
Enna bro pesra nee ??! Avanga etho edutha edupula vanmuraila eranguna mathiri pesriye bro 🤦♀️🤦♀️ . Anniku avangalala atha thavirthu enna pannirka mudiyum ??!
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Police car la than bro varuvanga beerangi la ila 🤦♂️ car la varavangaluku mulla than vetti poda mudiyum...
When time goes by more and more i feel like Paari Saalan is speaking the truth
Please check into a pshychatrist bro it's easy to cure as it's in beginning stage
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Bro he is only 50% correct eppaiyume mozhi perumaiyum, kudi perumaiyum pesite iruntha.it's also one type of discrimination, naalaiku mozhi ku nu thaniya sanda varum. Ippo kooda oru prechana pochu hair vachu chocolate pannuranga nu, atha avaru thappa tha sonnaru, reality vera. Intha maari avaru senja neriya thappu iruku
Bro oru videokum innoru videokum ivlo naal ha bro gap 😢 video shoot pandravan kuda ivlo late aaka mattan bruh 🙂 takkunu video podu ya yow
Video kadaisila esaki ye paathu kamal unaku akka illa anni nu sonnadha cote pannuna super.but i want to tell u something andha kaalathula yendha oru oor thalaivarum than kaal serupa yeduthu podrathuku sondha saadhi kaarana vechuka maatanga adha modhala therinchuko. Thota velaiku same caste aala velaiku vechupaanga, veedu kootradhuku kooda vechupaanga.aana serupa yeduthu podradhuku yevanu avan sondha jaadhi kaarana vekka maatan. Un appa thaatha ta ketu paaru.Oru scene la esaki kamal ku serupa yeduthu podradha kamal la mass sa kaati glorify pannunaanga. adhu yepdi oru manushan innoru manushan ku serupu yeduthu podradha glorify panna mudiyum..?? And at the same time devar magan la perusaa yedhum illa nu soneengala , adhuku naan onnu kekanum. Devar magan padathula yendha oru scene laiyume esaki periya devar pakathulaiyo illa chinna devar pakkathulaiyo sari samamaa utkaarula adhu yen ?? Kamal koodaiyum esaki pakathula sari samamaa utkaarulaiye adhu yen.? Jaadhi venaanu sorla chinna devar pakathula kooda esaki utkaara maari scene illaiye. Yellaa scene laiyume kaiya katti thunda kakkathula vechukitu ninnutu irundhaane andha esaki , adhu yen??? Oru vela andha esaki periya devar sivaji pakathula avar utkaandhuruka chair maariye inno onnuthula utkaandha yenna aagum.? Andha scene yepdi irukku.? Adhuku periya devar yepdi react pannirupaaru.??? apdi oru scene nadandhaa adhu dhaan MAAMANNAN. I hope u can get it.
Correct dha...pariyerum perumal...pariyan apadi irukanaa...adhu avanoda character..avanuku irukura world pathuna purithal iruthu varakudiya thoughts.. But karnan la irukura character neega solra maari tharkiriyaveh irukalaam..adhula onnum thappu Ila..antha world la karnanuku irukura knowledge avalodha...he is sort temper. Avan pesuradha Vida violance ah theerva nenaikurava..but I understand collector scence...I also appect that maari writing la karnan climax konjam bad ah dha irundhuthu
Bro is a vice City player