Not 1.3 seconds. It was 1.03 seconds slower. Considering it is well below the hp of the megane, that is a marvelous result, just imagine what a tune will do to it.
@@clioopen Why would they? The R32 ceased production nearly 3 years prior to the RS265 being released. The MK7 Golf R is the closest year to that car. How does that go in your comparison?
Pointless test really when you know the Megane RS Cup is faster than the Golf R, Audi S3, BMW 135i and 1M , and 2 seconds per lap only slower than the M3 E92 at the Nurburgring.
Wait till they test it against the 300bhp Golf R coming soon and the brand new S3, perhaps, this will make you think more... Furtheremore, Golf is WAYYYYYY better all rounder the the megane...
RokitScientist1987 Well, not really, R is available for order in Europe and The Focus RS, or even the ST is preferred by more, so it was never going strong... Sorry to destroy your dreams...
MrFaniaros Power isn't everything. I hope the new Golf R has much better handling, especially through corners, as the Megane RS is superb for a FWD car...
KHGuitarFreak1988 The GTi has better handling, you can see for yourself how stable it is compared to your so great megane when exiting the corners, imagine how much better the 4wd Golf R will be... Even the Golf 6 R, according to the experts, has better handling than the megane...
All these gti's better vs RS' better argument. Despite both being "hot hatches" they are completely different cars. Disregard the 1.03 difference on THIS track, it doesn't represent how much better the RS is on a track against the GTI, especially for your average joe. I've owned both an I'm an average driver on track the RS is faster, more fun and easier to handle. The GTI is the best overall package. Its softer, better gadgets, better interior. Its a better daily. Having owned both (not the Mk7) there are plenty of positives for both. In traffic and highway driving? I definitely prefer the ease of the GTI. But as soon as you get to the twisty stuff, in and around town (at night) the RS is just so much fun to drive, you kinda ignore how bumping it is .
The Megane is the best FWD sport hot hatch ever. New golf, lighter and much modern, is 1 second slower. Even a 40 hp powerful Golf, couldn't erase the difference.
But you can take your granny with you, without feeling embarrassed about your bumpy car. After riding once in the Renault she will never knit anything for you ;)
If you knew your shit, you would know that the GTI has huge aftermarket support. If you want to turn your GTI into more of a track car you can do it. My MK6's swaybars are 275% stiffer overall (200 in back, 75 in front), it has bilsteins on all 4 corners, and a APR tune that bumps output to ~260 hp and ~270 ft. lbs (this mk7 is going to get an even more powerful tune, like ~280 hp), along with hawk pads. It's totally different then stock, it's seriously fast, understeer is greatly diminished.
I must say I'm impressed with the GTI! Only 1s behind vs "the great Megane RS", which has 35 HP more... That means, I think, with equal HP and DSG, the GTI would have the same time or even better than the Megane RS (on this track). Impressive job from VW, the new diff they use seems to pay off!
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First up, I am the owner of an RS265 so I have a declarled bias. That being said the golf would be a better daily driver to live with in city use, the Meg is pretty firm. In New Zealand where I live we have a lot of roads that the RS is just made for. Someone below said that next to an RS3 the Megane is just a toy. I actually drove an RS3 when deciding what to buy and preffered the Megane given it was half the prjce and handled better. Also cbeck out the Ring times, Meg is quite a bit quicker, RS3 to much understeer
The point is that the everyday hatch is not far off from the track focused hatch. If you live in an area with smooth perfect roads, sure get the Megane, but lets be honest, roads are crap, plus I need space for everyday things, so I would go GTI, 4 door to be precise. I wanna know how is the pedal placement for heel toe in the GTI?
Darren Loke I get your point, the Megane certainly isn't as well made as a golf, but on the other end, I don't thonk a golf is as well made as you think it is. VW's marjeting is far more efficient than their cars, and a hothatch by definition should be plenty fast and fun to drive. I think that the Megane is by far the best out there. Fifth gear evn threw a Porsche at its face and the Megane got up to a faster start off the line... and finished the lap behind the Porsche one second ish behind.... yet the Megane isn't a sports super car.
Give the car to an everyday driver and a UK B road and i bet the golf will come out as been the faster as its so much easy to make go fast on a day to day basis.
Renault Sport car by far like always of course Because there we speak about real sport cars made for real roads with corners and corners and for tracks and not about GT cars made for straight lines as this false '"Golf GTi" but real Golf GT... The last real Golf GTi was the Golf 2 GTi and I had one of this in the 90's ! :-)
? 1 second is a large différence in a such short track... Return in your videogames noob sucker and don't try to speak about cars or race cars with me...
bob g Euuuuh? What?! From USA?!! An US guy who wants to speak with me about European "GTi cars" and especially a modern brand "Renault Sport" what he don't know?! Just that is a pure joke and so funny LOL
bob g Just so you know: If they did a 30 laps race the driver of the megane will already be celebrating for half a minute when the Golf'll finally come crawling around the last turn...
Far too much hype regarding the current Golf GTI in my opinion. I've driven one (admittedly, not on a track) and despite enjoying my time behind the wheel, I was left with the impression that other manufacturers market arguably better hot hatches for less. If I were looking for a hot hatch to replace my car I'd be down to either a Ford or Renault garage in a heartbeat.
The only point on which the Golf can be compared to the Megane is the price, which means the Golf, a car well below the Megane regarding the sporting aspects, is overly overpriced.
There is something caled MK2 Golf , which hold value very good (where I live it costs 500 euro for wrecks up to 3000 euro for good ones and it apprisiates) and it is very reliable . So many new Golf buyers hope that new GTI would forever . After all , not every nation is rich enough to replace their cars every 5 years .
As much as I love the RS's engineering, it looks dated and the interior is quite poor. GTI Performance Pack it is, then. Besides, the DSG version is quicker than the RS.
João Soares Exactly. The RS drives really well but you're not always on a track, are you? And if you are you probably have a track car. Renault's interiors are years behind VW's and they really need to address that issue on the upcoming Megane 4...
Well. Renault has a new gen of RS Megane coming out soon. It will be around 300bhp. So lets just wait and see :) The only reason golf is more desirable, is that it has a HUGE fanbase, who hate anything and everything not VW
Let me see, stability control off, lighter and 35hp more and still it was only 1.03 s faster... Try now against the Clubsport version or against a Seat Leon Cupra 280 or the new 290
+Kees Zoutzeling Looks like the golf fanboys are unhappy about being comfortably beaten by an old french car. 1 second is quite a lot of distance especially on a small track. You want to try it against a clubsport? ok then, lets try it against the even more powerful facelifted 275 Megane or Trophy-R instead.
+Kees Zoutzeling it's all swings and roundabouts, I had a golf gti, i now have a RS, both great cars, personally I just like the look of the Renault but then i couldn't afford a mk7 golf. Also they tested with a 265, there's still the 275 trophy and trophy R versions.
oh pease don't bother and waste time pittying them sir. They are so much better off with a car that feels alive, and that would be the Renault... if only VWs were as good as their marketing....
GTI is a great car , only problem is it looks BORING, BORING LIKE HELL, I like Ford Focus ST but I admit that ST sucks before GTI and Megane, but its more fun than both GTI and Megane, feels like a FWD Muscle car, the 2015 Golf R is supposed to beat even the Megane RS time with its AWD, and by 2015 Focus ST might come back as a facelift ST with ST4 variant getting Limited slip diff and by 2018 the legendary Focus RS will be back until then Megane is KING
VirusTornado dude you dont know wtf your talking about why compare a 210 FWD golf to 275 stripped out low weight race oriented car ? The R is 300 horse power and more tork honestly you dont know what you talking about
+Najib Rs You're wrong. The Golf is the best. The Mégane, however, is the nicest. The Golf is more practical, more economical, more luxurious, safer, more modern and holds its value better. The Mégane makes you yearn to have it after a single test drive. I'd have the Mégane.
Why are people so salty on here? I own a gti dsg but i also love the megane rs. It looks fun to drive. But the gti is also fun to drive and pretty quick for 220hp
stop it with the stability control volkswagen! at least give us the option of turning it off, because im sick of your clearly superior cars getting shit talked on these shows
Probably the Megane with the traction control would be faster than that... always want to show that without the TC cars are faster and is not, they love sliding the front and drifting, and that is not fast. If you don't believe what I say, there are some tests with ten year ago cars and pilots on the zig-zag showing that cars are faster with the TC on than off.
I would be very curious to know what tire each car was running As this could easily make all the difference... If the Renault Has Michelin pilot sports then there's your answer... Still for a car as everyday drivable as it is .. Pretty damn good
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MrFaniaros Stupid once again. Nothing else to say. Why? Well, let me give you a hint. Last year, DEKRA, which is a German car association that deals with reliability of the cars, proclaimed the Megane III the most reliable car in the segment. And ADAC, other German car association also gave Megane III maximum ratings for reliability. Lets not even go into the fact that people who work on the Megane RS and other RS models build the best Formula 1 engines and drivetrains in the world, and basically dominate in F1 for the last 8 years, so building car engines, and sports cars in general is a joke to them. Unlike VW, which, you sure would know, as an expert you obviously are (lol), just pulled in 1,6 million cars for DSG failure, and lets not even go into the fact that all VW turbocharged TSI engines have horrible reliability issues. Facts.
No, the Megane RS is for people like me, only ten years ago. Now, I'll be having a GTI myself. It's called getting old, a.k.a slightly more sensible and in need for some comfort...
simsbrigada It boggles my mind, too. One of the reasons I went for a Kia Pro_Cee'd GT Tech over a VW Golf GTI was because, spec for spec, the Golf was over £30,000 (pushing ~£8,000 more than the Kia) and from what I could gather from test drives and reviews, the Golf is barely any different dynamically (except maybe a tad more bite to the brakes at the upper pedal travel, but that's it). João Soares Consider that "quality" for a moment. I love a good, high quality car the same as anyone else, but these days the Germans aren't the big names in quality any more, especially when it comes to Mechanicals. VAG for several years have been consistently unreliable. VW have gear box troubles, Audi have Electrical faults, Mercedes are just straight-up poor (the A-Class is the single most disappointing "premium" car I've ever driven) and BMW are slipping fast. Plus, consider another thing for a moment. A Vauxhall Astra GTC VXR with 280bhp is available for £27,000 - the same starting price as the Golf GTI and just as easy to live with when in Touring mode. That is another car I have had the pleasure of driving and its leagues above the Golf in terms of power, handling and styling. The interior is on-par, with just as many High quality plastics as the Astra. The Golf is just overpriced. No questions about it. A few years ago a new Golf GTI used to cost around £20,000 - now its pushing £27,000. Its insanity that people think its a good selling price when it doesn't even come with leather Recaro seats as standard.
Megane RS Nurburgring Time is fake because the car was not in the original condition,. megan rs original condition, could never so much a better time to drive to the other competitors. Megan RS was also used in other tires
Despite the fact that the GTI has 35 less horsepower, and is heavier, it is so impressive how the queen of the hot haches is only slower by 1.03 seconds... plus it had the traction control on. I am not saying that the Megane RS is bad, but when it comes to compete against the GTI, any hot haches under 300 horsepower are unable to beat the GTI. (Apart from the Cupra 280/290 which is basically an angrier GTI using the same MQB platform, improved Inline 4 2 liter turbocharged engine, and the same DSG transmission, but I would still choose the GTI for the name value and the prestige, as well as a better interior) These are just my personal opinions. I just love the GTI that much.
The funny thing is....we dont buy these cars for racing. yes its faster but tell me whos going to spoon down any of these on a daily bases.? that renault is ugly aswell.
Poca diferencia teniendo en cuenta los caballos de diferencia y la clase y calidad del Golf mk7 es infinitamente mejor. No hay color. Gti sí o sí. Fin del debate
This is a silly comparison. The Gti did not have a DSG box which is it's biggest weapon. It most likely lost 1.5 seconds in gear changes alone. Come one auto express, don't handy cap one car to make another look faster
Or when the RS pulls up to a Golf GTI at the red light. That's what these cars are basically about...yuppies showing off. If they were smart they'd save their money for a few more years and buy a Merc (CL)A AMG, Audi RS3, BMW 1M, ... compared to those, an RS looks like a matchbox car.
what i would do (and usually do end up doing) is take the money to buy a new GTI and buy an old one and do crazy things with it. Shit for 35k i could get a mk4 GTI and give it 700hp and go crazy with the chassis, suspension, brakes. could make a beast.
jrgti80 At those speeds, 1 second is a lot. Iron883Man I don't own a Megane, nor am I a fan of it - but I feel it prudent to remind you that the Megane RS is faster than an M3 round the 'ring. Not the best metric, sure, but it gives you pause for Thought.
30 bhp down & only 1.3 seconds slower I think that's pretty good. I do like the 265 but I do a lot of miles & I think I'll be more suited to the gti, I do like the look of the new gti someone has one at work hasn't got the performance pack that was a 6 months wait for a car with that the normal gti was a month wait so he had that
take megane if you have no skills in driving the car will carry you may you think you know how to drive but we all know you dont or els you wouldent buy that ugly thing in the first place.
Not 1.3 seconds.
It was 1.03 seconds slower.
Considering it is well below the hp of the megane, that is a marvelous result, just imagine what a tune will do to it.
It's funny how VW fans do not accept that same comment when putting R32 next to R.S.265...
@@clioopen Why would they? The R32 ceased production nearly 3 years prior to the RS265 being released. The MK7 Golf R is the closest year to that car. How does that go in your comparison?
Pointless test really when you know the Megane RS Cup is faster than the Golf R, Audi S3, BMW 135i and 1M , and 2 seconds per lap only slower than the M3 E92 at the Nurburgring.
Wait till they test it against the 300bhp Golf R coming soon and the brand new S3, perhaps, this will make you think more... Furtheremore, Golf is WAYYYYYY better all rounder the the megane...
MrFaniaros yeah well that new R didn't even come out yet and Megane is out how many years now?? Still going strong.
RokitScientist1987 Well, not really, R is available for order in Europe and The Focus RS, or even the ST is preferred by more, so it was never going strong... Sorry to destroy your dreams...
MrFaniaros Power isn't everything. I hope the new Golf R has much better handling, especially through corners, as the Megane RS is superb for a FWD car...
KHGuitarFreak1988 The GTi has better handling, you can see for yourself how stable it is compared to your so great megane when exiting the corners, imagine how much better the 4wd Golf R will be... Even the Golf 6 R, according to the experts, has better handling than the megane...
All these gti's better vs RS' better argument. Despite both being "hot hatches" they are completely different cars. Disregard the 1.03 difference on THIS track, it doesn't represent how much better the RS is on a track against the GTI, especially for your average joe. I've owned both an I'm an average driver on track the RS is faster, more fun and easier to handle. The GTI is the best overall package. Its softer, better gadgets, better interior. Its a better daily.
Having owned both (not the Mk7) there are plenty of positives for both. In traffic and highway driving? I definitely prefer the ease of the GTI. But as soon as you get to the twisty stuff, in and around town (at night) the RS is just so much fun to drive, you kinda ignore how bumping it is .
Oh so, you haven't owned the MK7... Well have hardly owned both then...
@@Jaredscott89 Oh look a butthurt VAG
didn't think it was going to be that close to the Megane..
1.3 seconds slower? you mean 1.03 seconds
If you want to speak about sport, think Renault (world champion in F1), i never heard talking about VW...
***** Ogier ? Polo ? let me see...sorry I only know Sebastien Loeb and Citroën..
Who was talking about F 1?
Renault Megane looks badass
The Megane is the best FWD sport hot hatch ever. New golf, lighter and much modern, is 1 second slower. Even a 40 hp powerful Golf, couldn't erase the difference.
This comment aged poorly, given the MK7 held the record...
Hahahah what about now 😂 4rs i dont see golf around
Renault is the best!
If they sold French cars in the States I'd by the Renault.
Golf is such a DULL car. Only to be driven whilst wearing beige cords and that sweater your granny knitted you.
But you can take your granny with you, without feeling embarrassed about your bumpy car. After riding once in the Renault she will never knit anything for you ;)
It's funny how you know so well what dullness looks like...
João Soares Not really...it's everywhere you look. The sheeple make sure of that.
If you knew your shit, you would know that the GTI has huge aftermarket support. If you want to turn your GTI into more of a track car you can do it. My MK6's swaybars are 275% stiffer overall (200 in back, 75 in front), it has bilsteins on all 4 corners, and a APR tune that bumps output to ~260 hp and ~270 ft. lbs (this mk7 is going to get an even more powerful tune, like ~280 hp), along with hawk pads. It's totally different then stock, it's seriously fast, understeer is greatly diminished.
***** I have nothing against the megane, I don't even have the option of buying it here in the states which bugs me a fair amount.
RS 265 on a different class, debate over!
Rs stands for really stable, gti stands for got to improve.
Renault RS world fastest front wheel drive, with 8:07.97 Nürburgring reckord and VW scrap
the new Leon cupra holds that record, sub 8 mins
VW is so more quality like Chinese copy of Rolex.
Of course. Of course. Then Renault is quality like 15 year old Rolex copy of an copy ;-)
It's not 1.3 faster around the lap as mentioned in the end of the video but actually 1.03 . Still prefer the golf!
I must say I'm impressed with the GTI! Only 1s behind vs "the great Megane RS", which has 35 HP more... That means, I think, with equal HP and DSG, the GTI would have the same time or even better than the Megane RS (on this track). Impressive job from VW, the new diff they use seems to pay off!
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First up, I am the owner of an RS265 so I have a declarled bias. That being said the golf would be a better daily driver to live with in city use, the Meg is pretty firm. In New Zealand where I live we have a lot of roads that the RS is just made for. Someone below said that next to an RS3 the Megane is just a toy. I actually drove an RS3 when deciding what to buy and preffered the Megane given it was half the prjce and handled better. Also cbeck out the Ring times, Meg is quite a bit quicker, RS3 to much understeer
The point is that the everyday hatch is not far off from the track focused hatch. If you live in an area with smooth perfect roads, sure get the Megane, but lets be honest, roads are crap, plus I need space for everyday things, so I would go GTI, 4 door to be precise. I wanna know how is the pedal placement for heel toe in the GTI?
That Megane is so badass.... that would rip off most of dearer cars on the Nürburgring... RENAULT FOR THE WIN, PERIOD
Good luck reminding yourself it's a cheap car every time u sit inside lol.
Darren Loke I get your point, the Megane certainly isn't as well made as a golf, but on the other end, I don't thonk a golf is as well made as you think it is. VW's marjeting is far more efficient than their cars, and a hothatch by definition should be plenty fast and fun to drive. I think that the Megane is by far the best out there. Fifth gear evn threw a Porsche at its face and the Megane got up to a faster start off the line... and finished the lap behind the Porsche one second ish behind.... yet the Megane isn't a sports super car.
Darren Loke Looks and feels much better than a Focus RS interior though!
0.03 = point zero three
0.3 = point three
Same goes for 0.06
Why is it always the basics?
why you didnt choose VW Scirocco instead of Golf
Because the Scirocco is 3-4 years old. Its a completely different generation, and it would have gotten its arse kicked with way more than 1.2 seconds.
golfs are good cars but hearing all the hype and then driving one i just always seem a little let down with them :/
They are average at best. Honda, Renault, Hyundai, Ford are far far better, especially the newer ones.
Give the car to an everyday driver and a UK B road and i bet the golf will come out as been the faster as its so much easy to make go fast on a day to day basis.
Can anyone tell me why the headlights apper to flicker on and off with videos like this ??
Is it to do with the FPS of the video ?
Renault Sport car by far like always of course
Because there we speak about real sport cars made for real roads with corners and corners and for tracks and not about GT cars made for straight lines as this false '"Golf GTi" but real Golf GT... The last real Golf GTi was the Golf 2 GTi and I had one of this in the 90's ! :-)
listen dumbass, the Renault is one second faster. One second. Not 20. They are essentially evenly matched.
? 1 second is a large différence in a such short track... Return in your videogames noob sucker and don't try to speak about cars or race cars with me...
bob g
Euuuuh? What?! From USA?!! An US guy who wants to speak with me about European "GTi cars" and especially a modern brand "Renault Sport" what he don't know?! Just that is a pure joke and so funny LOL
bob g Just so you know: If they did a 30 laps race the driver of the megane will already be celebrating for half a minute when the Golf'll finally come crawling around the last turn...
?? are you drunk? LOL
I would love to have that Renault in the US....
Can someone please explain to me how the Megane RS Cup is almost as fast as the E92 M3 around the Nurburgring!?
Because it has a brilliant chassis and an M3 is a lot heavier to go around the corners.
What happened to Owen millenhall? Good reviewer
now try the same thing against the Golf R
+Gav G Will beat that aswell id imagine, the Golf R doesnt handle as well as the GTI, a point they proved when they put the R against the leon cupra
+john jackson the r handles better than the gti as the golf r is also 4wd not sure where you got that info from
+Gav G ..i'm also not sure where on earth did he get this info bro...
there is the megane trophy r which is faster than the sport cup. so renault faster either way.
+Dhameer Govind it is quicker round the track but thats not the megane in this video my friend.
Far too much hype regarding the current Golf GTI in my opinion. I've driven one (admittedly, not on a track) and despite enjoying my time behind the wheel, I was left with the impression that other manufacturers market arguably better hot hatches for less. If I were looking for a hot hatch to replace my car I'd be down to either a Ford or Renault garage in a heartbeat.
I hope those wheels on GTI will be available here in US
The only point on which the Golf can be compared to the Megane is the price, which means the Golf, a car well below the Megane regarding the sporting aspects, is overly overpriced.
There is something caled MK2 Golf , which hold value very good (where I live it costs 500 euro for wrecks up to 3000 euro for good ones and it apprisiates) and it is very reliable . So many new Golf buyers hope that new GTI would forever . After all , not every nation is rich enough to replace their cars every 5 years .
Mladen Milić Budimo realni, puca njima za zemlje treceg sveta...i ta prica sa golfom dvojkom -_-
@4:40 gti is 1.03 slower not 1.3 seconds as what you say :)
As much as I love the RS's engineering, it looks dated and the interior is quite poor. GTI Performance Pack it is, then. Besides, the DSG version is quicker than the RS.
João Soares Exactly. The RS drives really well but you're not always on a track, are you? And if you are you probably have a track car. Renault's interiors are years behind VW's and they really need to address that issue on the upcoming Megane 4...
Well. Renault has a new gen of RS Megane coming out soon. It will be around 300bhp. So lets just wait and see :)
The only reason golf is more desirable, is that it has a HUGE fanbase, who hate anything and everything not VW
Let me see, stability control off, lighter and 35hp more and still it was only 1.03 s faster... Try now against the Clubsport version or against a Seat Leon Cupra 280 or the new 290
+Kees Zoutzeling Looks like the golf fanboys are unhappy about being comfortably beaten by an old french car. 1 second is quite a lot of distance especially on a small track. You want to try it against a clubsport? ok then, lets try it against the even more powerful facelifted 275 Megane or Trophy-R instead.
+Kees Zoutzeling it's all swings and roundabouts, I had a golf gti, i now have a RS, both great cars, personally I just like the look of the Renault but then i couldn't afford a mk7 golf. Also they tested with a 265, there's still the 275 trophy and trophy R versions.
It's just not an impartial Test. The Trophy R or 275 won't be no match for the Clubsport or Cupra 290, just wait for future faceoffs ;)
Because all my journeys involve more left hand turns I put thicker tyres on the near side.
1.03 secs difference is irrelevant on the road
I think gti is the best car for our normal life and fun driving! Love dsg
Till it breaks down.........
Power pack?
With so much better interior, liveability, and comfort, the Golf GTi is only slower by such a slight fraction? Gosh, i pity those Megane owners.
oh pease don't bother and waste time pittying them sir. They are so much better off with a car that feels alive, and that would be the Renault... if only VWs were as good as their marketing....
The GTi you drove is the standard, no performance pack.
The pp has red GTI badges
GTI is a great car , only problem is it looks BORING, BORING LIKE HELL, I like Ford Focus ST but I admit that ST sucks before GTI and Megane, but its more fun than both GTI and Megane, feels like a FWD Muscle car, the 2015 Golf R is supposed to beat even the Megane RS time with its AWD, and by 2015 Focus ST might come back as a facelift ST with ST4 variant getting Limited slip diff and by 2018 the legendary Focus RS will be back until then Megane is KING
Rs is the best
Najib Rs ye right put it next a GOlf 7 R20 we will see about that :)
nassim479 different cars buddy. Golf R is a different car. Doesn't compete with the RS.
VirusTornado dude you dont know wtf your talking about why compare a 210 FWD golf to 275 stripped out low weight race oriented car ? The R is 300 horse power and more tork honestly you dont know what you talking about
nassim479 They're in the same price range. The R is AWD, has more power, and costs A LOT more.
+Najib Rs You're wrong. The Golf is the best. The Mégane, however, is the nicest. The Golf is more practical, more economical, more luxurious, safer, more modern and holds its value better. The Mégane makes you yearn to have it after a single test drive.
I'd have the Mégane.
did anyone notice the headlamp lights on the GTI keeps blinking?
That's because of the camera used to film it, not the car. In real life, you will not experience it.
I would get the GTI if it was 1.3 minutes slower :-) not only 1.3 seconds !!
1.03
same here
kosar mustafa the point is it is slower
Correction.. the A45 is the best all rounder. Not the GTI
Why are people so salty on here?
I own a gti dsg but i also love the megane rs. It looks fun to drive. But the gti is also fun to drive and pretty quick for 220hp
stop it with the stability control volkswagen! at least give us the option of turning it off, because im sick of your clearly superior cars getting shit talked on these shows
but you must making the rs vs r20 not gti
if the VW Golf was a bit lighter or much much lighter it had certainly won
yes 1.03
GTI for me
not that it matters awful lot but the difference is 1.03 seconds not 1.30 seconds.
Probably the Megane with the traction control would be faster than that... always want to show that without the TC cars are faster and is not, they love sliding the front and drifting, and that is not fast. If you don't believe what I say, there are some tests with ten year ago cars and pilots on the zig-zag showing that cars are faster with the TC on than off.
GTI is for pensioners :)
Megane is for peasants:)
You is eblan
Good driving as usual gay VAG cars cant turn off ESP though
I would be very curious to know what tire each car was running
As this could easily make all the difference... If the Renault
Has Michelin pilot sports then there's your answer...
Still for a car as everyday drivable as it is .. Pretty damn good
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Renault is The Best
If you make a 24h race between these two guess which one wins then.
The Golf obviously, megane will be broken down loooong before the finish line :P
MrFaniaros
Stupid once again. Nothing else to say. Why? Well, let me give you a hint. Last year, DEKRA, which is a German car association that deals with reliability of the cars, proclaimed the Megane III the most reliable car in the segment. And ADAC, other German car association also gave Megane III maximum ratings for reliability.
Lets not even go into the fact that people who work on the Megane RS and other RS models build the best Formula 1 engines and drivetrains in the world, and basically dominate in F1 for the last 8 years, so building car engines, and sports cars in general is a joke to them. Unlike VW, which, you sure would know, as an expert you obviously are (lol), just pulled in 1,6 million cars for DSG failure, and lets not even go into the fact that all VW turbocharged TSI engines have horrible reliability issues. Facts.
@@MrFaniaros that is why so many clio and megane are competing at the nürburgring 24h race?
The Megane looks like a cheap plastic car compared to the Golf
It is and this is why we love it. Simple cheeper but so engaging and quick
700°th like! Megane RS rocks
Go home Volkswagen , you re drunk !!
I thought it was going to have a defeatable stability control this time round... :-\
I'll take one of each!
Megane RS= Real drivers. Golf GTI= ponces
No, the Megane RS is for people like me, only ten years ago. Now, I'll be having a GTI myself. It's called getting old, a.k.a slightly more sensible and in need for some comfort...
i want to see Golf 7 R vs "mégane" :D :D
The Megane will certainly be not as fast as the Golf 7R
1 second slower, uglier and 2 000 pounds more... how the duck is the golf most desirable hot hatch?
The DSG version is faster than the RS, it looks a lot more modern and you're paying for quality (just compare the interiors).
simsbrigada It boggles my mind, too. One of the reasons I went for a Kia Pro_Cee'd GT Tech over a VW Golf GTI was because, spec for spec, the Golf was over £30,000 (pushing ~£8,000 more than the Kia) and from what I could gather from test drives and reviews, the Golf is barely any different dynamically (except maybe a tad more bite to the brakes at the upper pedal travel, but that's it).
João Soares Consider that "quality" for a moment. I love a good, high quality car the same as anyone else, but these days the Germans aren't the big names in quality any more, especially when it comes to Mechanicals. VAG for several years have been consistently unreliable. VW have gear box troubles, Audi have Electrical faults, Mercedes are just straight-up poor (the A-Class is the single most disappointing "premium" car I've ever driven) and BMW are slipping fast.
Plus, consider another thing for a moment. A Vauxhall Astra GTC VXR with 280bhp is available for £27,000 - the same starting price as the Golf GTI and just as easy to live with when in Touring mode. That is another car I have had the pleasure of driving and its leagues above the Golf in terms of power, handling and styling. The interior is on-par, with just as many High quality plastics as the Astra.
The Golf is just overpriced. No questions about it. A few years ago a new Golf GTI used to cost around £20,000 - now its pushing £27,000. Its insanity that people think its a good selling price when it doesn't even come with leather Recaro seats as standard.
I love this reviewer...
if you wear slacks and are looking forward to retiring it is the golf no contest.
and looks, and fun, and car feel, and better seats, and is more manly, yeah those things plus the lap time thing he said because its faster
Megane RS Nurburgring Time is fake because the car was not in the original condition,. megan rs original condition, could never so much a better time to drive to the other competitors.
Megan RS was also used in other tires
lol old megane vs new gti with performance pack and still gets walked
GTI always!
Despite the fact that the GTI has 35 less horsepower, and is heavier, it is so impressive how the queen of the hot haches is only slower by 1.03 seconds... plus it had the traction control on. I am not saying that the Megane RS is bad, but when it comes to compete against the GTI, any hot haches under 300 horsepower are unable to beat the GTI. (Apart from the Cupra 280/290 which is basically an angrier GTI using the same MQB platform, improved Inline 4 2 liter turbocharged engine, and the same DSG transmission, but I would still choose the GTI for the name value and the prestige, as well as a better interior) These are just my personal opinions. I just love the GTI that much.
+Benjamin Jung
Worth mentioning the bog standard GTI has been dynoed over 260bhp by superchips in the the UK
Renault megane machine😈💪
the golf is less powerful and you could not turn off the stability control so there
is your 1 second. Great job VW!
OMG, it is dry in England
RS are the best....:)
gti is a better car.
The funny thing is....we dont buy these cars for racing. yes its faster but tell me whos going to spoon down any of these on a daily bases.? that renault is ugly aswell.
Your mom's ugly
gti is old hat.now them meganes are fresh
And the winner is.....Seat Leon SC Cupra you DUMMIES!!!!!!!!
Poca diferencia teniendo en cuenta los caballos de diferencia y la clase y calidad del Golf mk7 es infinitamente mejor. No hay color. Gti sí o sí. Fin del debate
my friend has a golf R and i have the rs with chiptuning. I am faster and i have more fun. The golf is better build.
GOLF IS SO BORING CAR
because you can't afford it? fuck off kid
you will offend the V.A.G Kids
This is a silly comparison. The Gti did not have a DSG box which is it's biggest weapon. It most likely lost 1.5 seconds in gear changes alone. Come one auto express, don't handy cap one car to make another look faster
It 's really good !
Golf is boring and R.S. is emotion!
not even a challenge
1 FVCKING SECOND??? WTF??? Seriously it makes NO difference. If that was 8 seconds then maybe.
Or when the RS pulls up to a Golf GTI at the red light. That's what these cars are basically about...yuppies showing off. If they were smart they'd save their money for a few more years and buy a Merc (CL)A AMG, Audi RS3, BMW 1M, ... compared to those, an RS looks like a matchbox car.
what i would do (and usually do end up doing) is take the money to buy a new GTI and buy an old one and do crazy things with it. Shit for 35k i could get a mk4 GTI and give it 700hp and go crazy with the chassis, suspension, brakes. could make a beast.
jrgti80 At those speeds, 1 second is a lot.
Iron883Man I don't own a Megane, nor am I a fan of it - but I feel it prudent to remind you that the Megane RS is faster than an M3 round the 'ring. Not the best metric, sure, but it gives you pause for Thought.
benanderson89 I know, just read the comments prior. The green hell favours light cars with a good chassis. ;)
True dsg is fast
A45 AMG shits on everything
30 bhp down & only 1.3 seconds slower I think that's pretty good. I do like the 265 but I do a lot of miles & I think I'll be more suited to the gti, I do like the look of the new gti someone has one at work hasn't got the performance pack that was a 6 months wait for a car with that the normal gti was a month wait so he had that
But it's still french
Renault megane 👍🏆
35HP more in Golf and Golf wins.
take megane if you have no skills in driving the car will carry you may you think you know how to drive but we all know you dont or els you wouldent buy that ugly thing in the first place.
you can't turn off the stability in the golf and it looks way less twitchy. Golf much better for the less experienced