As soon as you add a scope to a rifle, it adds volume to the rifle and the safe shrinks. I started with a 5-gun safe and soon had to add another safe, and a small safe for keys and accessories, and a lockable cabinet for ammunition. I then started collecting and had to build a dedicated walk-in strongroom with another larger safe as well. I have one safe that is key operated and three that are electronic with key override. As they are in the walk-in strongroom, they are overkill according to legal requirements, but I know my collection is protected by multiple levels of difficulty. As a security officer, I know there is no such thing as a completely secure storage or building, but having multiple levels of security makes it harder to gain entry and for most thieves, just not worth the effort, so they go elsewhere.
Great video! The Fort Knox safes 🤯, but dealers are very limited depending on where you live. I started out medium sized (24 gun) . Yes, it was used for everything - ammo, jewelry, documents, and everything would have to be shifted/moved if something was in the back or bottom🫤😡. Lighting is an understatement. No matter the lighting in the room, it's still dark inside. I have since installed rechargeable motion detector lighting. But now the wife can see what's in there😂.
The only thing I can say to people who are starting out in this sport is that when it comes to safes, what the safes manufacturers mean by 3 or 5 or whatever it does not include scopes. When I bought my first 3 rifle safes I realised that I couldn't store 3 rifle with 3 scopes on it, so just be prepared and plan in advance.
One thing that I didn't Know is that for those that have handguns and need a H class safe. If you need a second safe for that expanding collection that second safe also needs to be a H class even if you only intend to keep A and B class firearms in it. apparently, this came in about 3 years ago.
My understanding is that H class safes have been required from when safes became compulsory. I use an "ordinary" safe for my handguns as it exceeds the requirements.
@@Anthony-w2b I am in NSW. I don't know what other state laws are. That is part of the problem we face; nothing consistent. I have a good idea, abolish all gun control laws as no criminal obeys them anyway, and the rest of us have no inclination to misuse our firearms.
Another really informative video. It always amazes me how gun owners are prepared to store thousands of dollars worth of firearms in crap Chinese made safes. $3000 buys an amazing safe and in my opinion is the starting point for securing a firearm.
Someone buys a safe thinking it's a safe when it's actually a glorified locker that anyone with a drill and an auto-nibbler can peel open in two minutes because it's made of sheet steel. In reality an actual safe is made of plate steel and you can't even fit a credit card into the door gap.
As soon as you add a scope to a rifle, it adds volume to the rifle and the safe shrinks. I started with a 5-gun safe and soon had to add another safe, and a small safe for keys and accessories, and a lockable cabinet for ammunition. I then started collecting and had to build a dedicated walk-in strongroom with another larger safe as well.
I have one safe that is key operated and three that are electronic with key override. As they are in the walk-in strongroom, they are overkill according to legal requirements, but I know my collection is protected by multiple levels of difficulty. As a security officer, I know there is no such thing as a completely secure storage or building, but having multiple levels of security makes it harder to gain entry and for most thieves, just not worth the effort, so they go elsewhere.
Sounds like you've got a very secure setup!
Great video buddy.
Great information 👍
Glad you think so!
Great video! The Fort Knox safes 🤯, but dealers are very limited depending on where you live. I started out medium sized (24 gun) . Yes, it was used for everything - ammo, jewelry, documents, and everything would have to be shifted/moved if something was in the back or bottom🫤😡. Lighting is an understatement. No matter the lighting in the room, it's still dark inside. I have since installed rechargeable motion detector lighting. But now the wife can see what's in there😂.
😂😂😂 you need to get rid of that light so she does not see
The only thing I can say to people who are starting out in this sport is that when it comes to safes, what the safes manufacturers mean by 3 or 5 or whatever it does not include scopes. When I bought my first 3 rifle safes I realised that I couldn't store 3 rifle with 3 scopes on it, so just be prepared and plan in advance.
Exactly right
I have a 15 gun so if I buy one now I have to sell one not that it's full just in case it takes some time to list and then sell
That's the problem they are very difficult to sell
@@BenchrestMarksman explaining to my wife that I have to give up a child is hard but I never won I can only prolong the inevitable
I should just build a gun vault lol.
That would be my ultimate dream to have a vault
One thing that I didn't Know is that for those that have handguns and need a H class safe. If you need a second safe for that expanding collection that second safe also needs to be a H class even if you only intend to keep A and B class firearms in it. apparently, this came in about 3 years ago.
My understanding is that H class safes have been required from when safes became compulsory. I use an "ordinary" safe for my handguns as it exceeds the requirements.
May depend on which state you're in. I should have said I'm in SA
@@Anthony-w2b I am in NSW. I don't know what other state laws are. That is part of the problem we face; nothing consistent. I have a good idea, abolish all gun control laws as no criminal obeys them anyway, and the rest of us have no inclination to misuse our firearms.
@@davidhandyman7571 yep👍
Another really informative video. It always amazes me how gun owners are prepared to store thousands of dollars worth of firearms in crap Chinese made safes. $3000 buys an amazing safe and in my opinion is the starting point for securing a firearm.
Someone buys a safe thinking it's a safe when it's actually a glorified locker that anyone with a drill and an auto-nibbler can peel open in two minutes because it's made of sheet steel. In reality an actual safe is made of plate steel and you can't even fit a credit card into the door gap.