DXO PhotoLab 8 for photo editing, VMware Fusion Pro w/Windows 11 Pro, NetNewsWire RSS feeds aggregator, have had LM Studio and MFLUX, but cannot seem to justify local LLM and text to img with the free options available online.
I just did it (thanks to you UA-cam guys😠🤣) I just could not wait for the Studio or Pro, you guys should get commissions from Apple😉 I just couldn't take it anymore, the crashes with my M1, painful scrolling through thousands of thumbnails and bogging down, Blender sucked. So after looking at the results of the Mini M4 pro, I upgraded mine to the 20 core GPU, and I went 64GB memory. Yeah Yeah, I could have easily done with 48 but here is the thing it was just an extra $180😁 to jump up to 64GB after my 10% discount. Memory has always been my nemesis and every single time I didn't go for higher memory I paid for it with frustration so $180 is not a worry even if it's overkill. This will be the biggest jump I ever made, M1 iMac to this? I can finally use Blender I'm going from a score of 261 to 2500!! The struggle is over! So yeah, it's a LOT, I think it's the best choice for now until the M5 Studio next fall.
I have M4 Pro Mac mini with 14c CPU, 20c GPU, 64gb RAM, 2TB SSD. I bought it for future proofing, I'm not planning to buy any Mac at least 5-6 years from now. I'm using it for motion graphics, and it works smooth.
Evening David, Just received my M4 Pro, and it's beautiful. I opted for the extra ram (64GB), over the SSD (Only got the 512GB) but it is so quiet, and cool to the touch whilst running, I am glad I took the plunge as I was umming and ahhing for a couple of days. I added the 10GB ethernet and the 16 core Neural Engine, as I cannot see myself buying another compute for a few years, so hopefully I am future-proofed. Setup was a bit of a nightmare, it didn't recognise my blue mouse, then couldn't find my old Mac-mini, couldn't restore from Time-Machine and finally, I could not get past the log-in screen (which other users had issues with too)! All sorted now, and I am happy with my purchase, as you appear to be too! Best, Bill
Hi William - I am so happy for you that you got the issues sorted. Luckily, my set-up was straightforward. I am still using it as my main Mac ahead of the M1 Max MacBook Pro. Interesting you mention storage...I amy be making a video about that early in the new year and some good workarounds. Enjoy your new Mac 💻
To be honest I’d be the first one to purchase Mac Mini if I could use an “old” iMac as a screen. Great video Dave! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎄
Hey, Karl, great to hear from you. Surely at some point, they must realise that they need to 'unlock' these old iMacs and let us use them as displays...
Thank you again for another informative dive into the M4 Mac mini Pro. I truly appreciate your take on Apple gear each week. My only disappointment was not finding your channel earlier.
WOW!! Going through the comments and coming across this has made my morning!! Thank you! So, if I had time to make a video next week, would you prefer a review of what Apple gear I've bought this year or a desk tour?
Received my M4 Pro 14c CPU/20c GPU, 1TB SSD, and 24GB of memory. Last week. Right now it’s sitting under the Christmas tree. Can’t wait to open it on Christmas Day. 😃
im considering the base model, to replace my MacBook Air m1.. as it´s hooked up to my studio display, and never with me... but, it´s sold out for the moment..
I can promise you the improvements you'll find from moving from M1 to M4 will surprise you. Apple silicon has come on so much. And you already have the Studio Display...as soon as it's in stock, do it! You won't be disappointed
I know I know...it's so easy to get it the wrong way around...but it's still a great Mac!! Thanks for watching fella and hope the OCD hasn't been too badly attacked ☺️
This will be my next purchase. I’m still smarting from my iPad-mini purchase($1092 WiFi-Cell max memory, apples case and sales tax) and my error missing the return window.
Hi David, thank you so much for this video! So much debate on the M4 and M4Pro in the Mini version; I think how much UM and/or Storage you need is purely based on your particular needs. That being said, I thought the same; “room to growth” is essential for me, so after a month of research and so many vids on UA-cam, I decided to go for the M4 Pro base model with a 10Gb Ethernet port. Looking for treating myself with a TB5 enclosure/storage or even a NAS next year. Subscribed! Cheers 💪🏼
Thank you for the sub, Walter and I hope my video helped with your decision-making. A NAS is something I am spending a lot of time looking at myself. I'm worried that editing from an external SSD would overheat it and slow me down. I am thinking a NAS may be the way forward...for us both possibly!
I have the iMac 2017 and bought the Mac mini Pro with 1Tb and 24Gb RAM, I already have a 10Tb NAS box and the Logitech keyboard and mouse, plus the keyboard and mouse from the iMac. I already have the Gigabyte 43” monitor. Quite happy. Big improvement on the Intel iMac.
@ I recorded an 8k movie with the Canon R5, went for 18 mins at 150Gb and took 15 mins to copy to NAS box, This time I used a Windows machine with a 3080 and played it back which used the GPU. It was a record of local traffic and I can read the number plates of every car, neat. I only used the 50mm lens. Soon I’ll play with Davinci Resolve and see how I’ll go. I seldom make movies so be interesting.
@@DavidLewisTech there are trade-offs, the file size is large and the camera gets warm, but a firmware update reduced this. The M4 would be efficient in post processing the 8k file. The 4k is probably more practical, the experiment with the traffic impressed me that number plates could be read compared to dashcams which I think was 1080p. Funny, I paid $750 for a 250GB card for the R5 for movies but 250GB is regarded as an underwhealming option for the base model M4 mini.
I just ordered a blue M4 iMac today, with 24gb of memory and 512ssd. I figured I can get an external ssd later. I was close to getting a mac mini, but went with the iMac. Thanks for the video!
Interested to know how you got the Fusion doc to work with the Mac mini, the only cable I have seen for this doc is horizontal designed for the Macbook pro. As the tthe Mac mini ports are Vertical i wondered if you needed to buy another cable. Or can you just use two separate T4 cables?
Ah! A fellow Fusion Dock user! Great, aren't they? I'd be lost without it. Yup, you are quite right, there is no easy fix...I use 2 x T4 cables. It's a shame to use up two of the ports, but for now, it suits me fine. I may get a 2 into 1 cable adapter at some point, though.
Dang! I've said it before and I'll say it again. I need to stop watching your videos (not really!). Your enthusiasm is infectious and I find myself yet again thinking I should replace my perfectly good 16" M1 Pro MBP because the M4 Pro MBP will be such an improvement. For me, I really DO want/need a Mac with a built-in screen because, unlike you, I'm not carrying it from one location with a monitor to another but rather moving it around the house to and from locations that don't have a monitor (think couch, kitchen table, recliner). So a Mac mini just won't cut it. But it's increasingly looking like you will have convinced me to pick up a new MBP after the start of the New Year. The only real decision is 16" or 14". I like the much lighter weight of the 14 inch but am concerned that I will miss the size of the 16 inch screen when I have two apps open side by side. Any thoughts on that?
Go the full beans! Get the 16-inch. You'll miss that extra screen size, I reckon. As for the improvements from M1 - M4, I think you'll be stunned. Plus, as I mentioned, there is that imperceivable something that makes everything just seem snappier on the M4 silicon! Sorry to be spending your money (not really 🤓)
@@DavidLewisTechWell, you finally succeeded in helping me spend beaucoup bucks! I just ordered a 16 inch M4 Pro MBP with 48 GB unified memory and 1 TB storage. It should arrive at the nearest Apple Store by Jan 17, so definitely before Trump takes office, bringing his tariffs with him. Seriously, thanks for sharing your enthusiasm and your thoughts above.
I love reading comments like this - it makes what I create feel all the more real! Make sure to let me know when you get your hands on it - and yes, I am just a little bit jealous ☺️
very interesting video ! oh and it may have nothing to relate with this video but (as i do home music studio) what are your monitors ? (oh and on my side i chose a Matias Mac RGB Keyboard) Cheers from France !
Hello France! It's odd, I came across these monitors years ago when I was building my radio studio. They are nothing fancy, but I love their response. I got them from Studiospares who I think are now part of Gear4Music. I found them on Amazon though...ua-cam.com/video/O4ooXaYb28E/v-deo.htmlsi=CTY7VWkSOVG-dqb5 They are Siewin 248040
I just took a quick comparison, but if you want the same specs in a Macbook Pro 14 inch you have to pay £2,799 againt Mac Mini £2,199 with the same specs. So you save around £499 by not going portable.
@@DavidLewisTech Indeed. It’s smaller then the original Mac Mini that was the size of 5 CD covers stack upon each other. I was surprised how big the Mac Studio was when I checked that one out again.
I’ve got a specked-up M4 Mac mini Pro on order, but now that I hear the M4 Studio Max could be coming as early as March, I’m wondering if I should wait. And by the way, internal storage is best, I don’t want the computer looking like an octopus.
I couldn’t pull the trigger on the mini for that same reason and I can’t justify getting a Mac Studio M2 Max as it will lose its value dramatically next year. Only for the sake of thermals and cooling I think the Mac mini pro could be a problem in the long run.
They are oddly very close competitors. If funds allow, I will try to a Studio next year. But, I think even for my workflow, the Studio will be overkill. I guess it depends on what you do, but all I can tell you is this Mac mini has truly amazed me!
So far the thermals have been fine. I will consider closely what external SSD to go with as overheating can be an issue with them when editing from them...
@ worth waiting for Mac Studio m4? Or just save the money and get this and upgrade ssd to 1tb? Music production mainly for my band and a music video once or twice a year.
I was frustrated by the instability of my PC specially after it went to sleep. This tiny Mac Mini caught my eye due to its size and it takes barely any space on my desk. There is no fan noise other than when I’m exporting a video, using apps is super smooth and fast, and I can now walk away from my desk and never have to worry about having to do a restart. The base model M4 Pro feels faster than my top spec PC except for video its on par but at more than half the price and it barely takes any space. For gaming Windows is still superior. Check your current RAM usage because 24GB is definitely enough for my work.
READ THIS COMMENT!! All true real-world advice. He's right, these Mac minis out perform themselves for the price point! Thanks for watching and commenting. 👌🏻
Thanks, David - great video. My hesitation to go with the mm m4 pro is the growing use of AI in apps like Lightroom and especially Topaz AI. The GPU gets heavily used and as time goes on, I worry the m4 pro will get more easily maxed out. My 2017 iMac struggles with Topaz Gigapixel so I am leaning toward the config you got - or waiting for the m4 Studio which will have more gpu. Do you have any concerns in this regard? BTW - I was shocked when downloading Gigapixel used 18 gig of space on my hard drive!
Hi Mark - 18GB! Geez, what is in that file, I wonder! All I can tell you is that this Mac mini has never struggled, beachballed or broken sweat. I could easily still be using the MacBook Pro you saw, but there is no net gain. Whilst the Studio will be a bit more powerful, it would take a helluva workflow to need it. I hope that helps a bit, Mark.
Thank you - I wanted to bring you as near as I could to my Mac. I think the red dials you mentioned were when I did the benchmarks. Watch the video that I have put up a card for at the end of this video...it's all there for you 👊🏻
I’ve been pondering “cross- grading” from my M1Max Studio (base, 2Tb). I don’t see it as any real power upgrade, and I know the dual video encoders in the max still beat out the ones in the M4Pro, but I’m still temped for the portability, the newer graphics for 3d and a wee bit of gaming, and unashamedly the sheer cuteness. For ref I do short vids (2-10 mins) in Final Cut and quite a bit of AfterEffects. All the usual Adobe stuff too, but I know it can chew thro that. What do you think?
Hi Bruce - another viewer has already switched from a Studio to a mini, which says it all! These minis are insane. Yup, they are as cute as hell but also brilliant to use. I was expecting more of an issue with only having a single video encoder, but in that stress test video I linked to, it shows that there were only about 60 seconds on a 12-minute 4K video. On shorter videos, honestly, you won't notice it. The portability is a huge win for me - I adore the mini, and it will eat through your workflow no problems.
May i know what made you shift from Adobe Premiere to Final Cut? Would FC have an equivalent of After Effects capabilities? Or do you need another 3rd party app for that?
hi - there was nothing really broken with Premiere Pro, but FCP seemed better optimised for Mac and also I have the option now to edit on the iPad as well. I find the colour is better on the final export from FCP too. I enjoyed my time with Premiere though and it taught me a lot. I hardly ever use After Effects...
Why installing Edge and Chrome browser? What many people don't know: Chrome is superfluous because the Edge browser uses the Chrome engine and is btw a smaller data octopus of your personal data❣️ Greetings from 🇨🇭🙏 JoJo
Hi JoJo - and welcome to the channel (hoping I've earned a sub 🙏🏻). For some reason, I found that RiversideFM works better (for me, at least) when I use Edge. I only use Chrome for uploading my YT videos. Other than that, I'm Safari all day long!
Definitely will be buying the Mac mini m4 pro. However, for those who require the extra IO a cheaper and in my opinion a better alternative for a thunderbolt hub would be the Acasis tb4 docking station. It retails at $269 USD, and you can get it on sale for a little cheaper. It has 21 ports which is more than the ivanky and quite literally the same output. PS. Would love to see a review of that amazing dock David haha.
Hi Dan - great to hear from you. The hubs play an important part in our desk setups, don't they! 21 ports! Damn, that's a lot! I was lucky that Ivanky sent me this one at the start of the year. I may well feature it in a video early next year. It's so well-built!
Hi David, i'm a prosummer that does photography and videography as a side gig. My videos would be 1-5min long for social media shot in 4k. Do you think i should get the m4 chip or the m4pro chip? When editing photos usually a 100 would be the max at a time, only a few tiems a year wear i would do more.
Hi there - I don't think you'd need the Pro chip. If you watch the video I put a card up for at the end of this video, you'll see me using a standard M4 Mac mini. These things fly and for your needs will be more than adequate. I hope that helps. d 👍🏻
Cool man - thanks for the sub 👍🏻 I put the specs up on screen near the start of the video, but they are: M4 Pro (14/20 config) 48GB memory 1TB storage 10GB Ethernet and it smokes! 👊🏻
Just wondering if you have ever considered the EMF radiation environment in which you operate, particularly if use are using WiFi 6e. I am a subscriber btw, just waiting for the inevitable invite to Patreon, which I guess is understandable.
I hadn't ever considered I was at high risk! I've just looked it up - eek! Thanks for the sub - and as yet no Patreon PayWalls from me! The sub suits me fine!! 😄
In 35 years of mac use in a professional design studio... I have never once touched a SD card. Photographers would supply images via zips, or MO. or CDs. DSL and cable became standard mid 90s, FTP. Using Fetch. then Transmit.
@@DavidLewisTech Like anything else, its prob subjective. I started my design studio in 1989, we had 2 IIci's and 2 SE30s. Used QuarkXPress. newsletters, brochures, coupons, posters, whatever. My studio was asked to start a magazine (still printing 28 years later) and have been primarily doing magazine work ever since then.... including today. Over 500,000 pages? in several interests. Studio was largest about 20 years ago, 1998-2008. 2008 bubble broke us. 80% of my clients were in the home industry. I had 3 designers + 1 marketing person. I art directed and worked with dozens of photographers, illustrators, writers, etc (and no SD cards =). Our current largest client is a Luxury Real estate magazine. 9 cities across the USA, 54 mags a year. 30-40 GBs of images each issue. Not a SD car in sight. The number of macs Ive purchased and sold/free cycled since those IIcis is staggering. Not ot mention HDDs, zip diskz, jaz, MO, Orb, printers, switches, mice, etc, etc, etc (at least to me as a single purchaser). Not one PC ever. =) Close to retirement now... but still working those 50 books... thinking one last upgrade. Current 2020 27" iMacs to mini M4Pros with some screen... prob not the studio display... some other 5K screen that Im sure I will hate.
Memory bandwidth is gigaBYTES (GB/s) per second, not gigabits (Gb) per second. And the ethernet is 10 gigabits/sec, not gigabytes. There are 8 bits in a byte. I don't know why they switch between the 2 units, but they do, and it seems to trip up tech UA-camrs all over the world.
Do you think the 24GB of ram and 512 of SSD is good enough for recording music in logic pro and editing videos on DR and Final Cut? ill be using external SSDs. Just wasnt a higher option of ram on Best Buys web site :( Thats the part im most worried about.
As you are using external SSD the 512Gb is fine. From my tests on the Mac mini (non-pro - watch the video I've put a card up for at the end) 24Gb will work, but if you can manage to go for 48GB - so much the better
One thing I have to say...... Dongle, the definition, was originally based on software protection "DONGLES", like Emagic's protectection device, As was syncrosoft, Bias..... Hell , even a cartridge that you plugged into an atari to run Cubase V1,,,, Stop saying Docks / Expansions are dongles..... It really gets under my skin ! Why... Because , a breakout box IS NOT A DONGLE (disclaimer... Watching this on a 5.1 Frankenstein..OSX11 , because it the last OS before Apple dropped SYS wide FW core audio support....)
@@DavidLewisTech I simply stated the truth. They rip you off for something that is not worth the money. Good stuff? Yeah...still not worth the money. Objectively. Fan boy.
Have you finally bought your M4 Mac mini Pro yet? If you have, what's on it?
DXO PhotoLab 8 for photo editing, VMware Fusion Pro w/Windows 11 Pro, NetNewsWire RSS feeds aggregator, have had LM Studio and MFLUX, but cannot seem to justify local LLM and text to img with the free options available online.
I just did it (thanks to you UA-cam guys😠🤣) I just could not wait for the Studio or Pro, you guys should get commissions from Apple😉 I just couldn't take it anymore, the crashes with my M1, painful scrolling through thousands of thumbnails and bogging down, Blender sucked. So after looking at the results of the Mini M4 pro, I upgraded mine to the 20 core GPU, and I went 64GB memory. Yeah Yeah, I could have easily done with 48 but here is the thing it was just an extra $180😁 to jump up to 64GB after my 10% discount. Memory has always been my nemesis and every single time I didn't go for higher memory I paid for it with frustration so $180 is not a worry even if it's overkill. This will be the biggest jump I ever made, M1 iMac to this? I can finally use Blender I'm going from a score of 261 to 2500!! The struggle is over! So yeah, it's a LOT, I think it's the best choice for now until the M5 Studio next fall.
I have M4 Pro Mac mini with 14c CPU, 20c GPU, 64gb RAM, 2TB SSD.
I bought it for future proofing, I'm not planning to buy any Mac at least 5-6 years from now. I'm using it for motion graphics, and it works smooth.
Nice specs!! I very much approve!! 👍🏼
Agree 100% - I have just upgraded from a M1 Studio to a M4 Pro Mac Mini, and it works a treat. I use for data analytics.
WOW!! From a Studio to a mini! Now doesn't that say it all!!
Evening David,
Just received my M4 Pro, and it's beautiful.
I opted for the extra ram (64GB), over the SSD (Only got the 512GB) but it is so quiet, and cool to the touch whilst running,
I am glad I took the plunge as I was umming and ahhing for a couple of days. I added the 10GB ethernet and the 16 core Neural Engine, as I cannot see myself buying another compute for a few years, so hopefully I am future-proofed.
Setup was a bit of a nightmare, it didn't recognise my blue mouse, then couldn't find my old Mac-mini, couldn't restore from Time-Machine and finally, I could not get past the log-in screen (which other users had issues with too)!
All sorted now, and I am happy with my purchase, as you appear to be too!
Best,
Bill
Hi William - I am so happy for you that you got the issues sorted. Luckily, my set-up was straightforward. I am still using it as my main Mac ahead of the M1 Max MacBook Pro. Interesting you mention storage...I amy be making a video about that early in the new year and some good workarounds.
Enjoy your new Mac 💻
To be honest I’d be the first one to purchase Mac Mini if I could use an “old” iMac as a screen. Great video Dave! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎄
Hey, Karl, great to hear from you. Surely at some point, they must realise that they need to 'unlock' these old iMacs and let us use them as displays...
Thank you again for another informative dive into the M4 Mac mini Pro. I truly appreciate your take on Apple gear each week. My only disappointment was not finding your channel earlier.
WOW!! Going through the comments and coming across this has made my morning!! Thank you!
So, if I had time to make a video next week, would you prefer a review of what Apple gear I've bought this year or a desk tour?
@@DavidLewisTech I think a desk tour would be great!
Ok - I may well do my first-ever desk tour and see how it goes down!
THE BEST MAC MINI PRO 48GB YET ! THANK YOU DAVID !
It's a pleasure Emil 👊🏻
Received my M4 Pro 14c CPU/20c GPU, 1TB SSD, and 24GB of memory. Last week. Right now it’s sitting under the Christmas tree. Can’t wait to open it on Christmas Day. 😃
Don't wait bro, you're spending its warranty.
😂
@@ZoneProduction448 warranty is time limitet, when you unbox it, check the warranty from System settings > About. Then you’ll understand what it mens.
Very nice! That will be a great Christmas Day for you - I promise 👍🏼
Congrats! How is it going with the mac mini? Is the ram enough for your usage?
im considering the base model, to replace my MacBook Air m1.. as it´s hooked up to my studio display, and never with me... but, it´s sold out for the moment..
I can promise you the improvements you'll find from moving from M1 to M4 will surprise you. Apple silicon has come on so much. And you already have the Studio Display...as soon as it's in stock, do it! You won't be disappointed
@@DavidLewisTech I know, i have the m4 iPad pro love that device.
yup - I'm replying to you from it right now!
*M4 Pro Mac mini
Also I love your enthusiasm about the Mac mini.
Yep, my OCD was going off every time I heard "M4 Mac Mini Pro" 😄 But still a great video 👍🏼
Thanks - I can never get it the right way round!! DOH! Thanks for putting up with me though 🤣. I appreciate man!
I know I know...it's so easy to get it the wrong way around...but it's still a great Mac!! Thanks for watching fella and hope the OCD hasn't been too badly attacked ☺️
bought a MacBook Pro M4 Max und waiting for the Mac Studio Max or Ultra. Just switched from Windows and I don't regret!
The Mac Studio is one of the few Macs I've never owned...but that may change next year!
This will be my next purchase. I’m still smarting from my iPad-mini purchase($1092 WiFi-Cell max memory, apples case and sales tax) and my error missing the return window.
that sucks, but when you get your hands on this Mac mini, you'll love it!
Hi David, thank you so much for this video!
So much debate on the M4 and M4Pro in the Mini version; I think how much UM and/or Storage you need is purely based on your particular needs.
That being said, I thought the same; “room to growth” is essential for me, so after a month of research and so many vids on UA-cam, I decided to go for the M4 Pro base model with a 10Gb Ethernet port. Looking for treating myself with a TB5 enclosure/storage or even a NAS next year.
Subscribed! Cheers 💪🏼
Thank you for the sub, Walter and I hope my video helped with your decision-making. A NAS is something I am spending a lot of time looking at myself. I'm worried that editing from an external SSD would overheat it and slow me down. I am thinking a NAS may be the way forward...for us both possibly!
I have the iMac 2017 and bought the Mac mini Pro with 1Tb and 24Gb RAM, I already have a 10Tb NAS box and the Logitech keyboard and mouse, plus the keyboard and mouse from the iMac. I already have the Gigabyte 43” monitor. Quite happy. Big improvement on the Intel iMac.
Geez - I bet coming from an Intel iMac to this must be quite the eye-opener! Welcome to Apple silicon
ps - love the sound of your NAS!
@ I recorded an 8k movie with the Canon R5, went for 18 mins at 150Gb and took 15 mins to copy to NAS box, This time I used a Windows machine with a 3080 and played it back which used the GPU. It was a record of local traffic and I can read the number plates of every car, neat. I only used the 50mm lens.
Soon I’ll play with Davinci Resolve and see how I’ll go. I seldom make movies so be interesting.
8K - oof!! I also fancy the R5 too...it's on my wish list!
@@DavidLewisTech there are trade-offs, the file size is large and the camera gets warm, but a firmware update reduced this. The M4 would be efficient in post processing the 8k file. The 4k is probably more practical, the experiment with the traffic impressed me that number plates could be read compared to dashcams which I think was 1080p.
Funny, I paid $750 for a 250GB card for the R5 for movies but 250GB is regarded as an underwhealming option for the base model M4 mini.
Great video, super interesting!
Thanks Dominic 👊🏼
I just ordered a blue M4 iMac today, with 24gb of memory and 512ssd. I figured I can get an external ssd later. I was close to getting a mac mini, but went with the iMac. Thanks for the video!
Hi dave - it's as if you've read my mind! I'm thinking of picking one of those up over the holidays to review as we all love iMacs!! 👍🏻
@ It comes tomorrow, can’t wait!
Tomorrow is already a good day then 👍🏼
Interested to know how you got the Fusion doc to work with the Mac mini, the only cable I have seen for this doc is horizontal designed for the Macbook pro. As the tthe Mac mini ports are Vertical i wondered if you needed to buy another cable. Or can you just use two separate T4 cables?
Ah! A fellow Fusion Dock user! Great, aren't they? I'd be lost without it. Yup, you are quite right, there is no easy fix...I use 2 x T4 cables. It's a shame to use up two of the ports, but for now, it suits me fine. I may get a 2 into 1 cable adapter at some point, though.
Dang! I've said it before and I'll say it again. I need to stop watching your videos (not really!). Your enthusiasm is infectious and I find myself yet again thinking I should replace my perfectly good 16" M1 Pro MBP because the M4 Pro MBP will be such an improvement. For me, I really DO want/need a Mac with a built-in screen because, unlike you, I'm not carrying it from one location with a monitor to another but rather moving it around the house to and from locations that don't have a monitor (think couch, kitchen table, recliner). So a Mac mini just won't cut it. But it's increasingly looking like you will have convinced me to pick up a new MBP after the start of the New Year.
The only real decision is 16" or 14". I like the much lighter weight of the 14 inch but am concerned that I will miss the size of the 16 inch screen when I have two apps open side by side. Any thoughts on that?
Go the full beans! Get the 16-inch. You'll miss that extra screen size, I reckon.
As for the improvements from M1 - M4, I think you'll be stunned. Plus, as I mentioned, there is that imperceivable something that makes everything just seem snappier on the M4 silicon!
Sorry to be spending your money (not really 🤓)
@ I like the way you think! 😎
and I love helping you spend your money! 💰😁
@@DavidLewisTechWell, you finally succeeded in helping me spend beaucoup bucks! I just ordered a 16 inch M4 Pro MBP with 48 GB unified memory and 1 TB storage. It should arrive at the nearest Apple Store by Jan 17, so definitely before Trump takes office, bringing his tariffs with him. Seriously, thanks for sharing your enthusiasm and your thoughts above.
I love reading comments like this - it makes what I create feel all the more real! Make sure to let me know when you get your hands on it - and yes, I am just a little bit jealous ☺️
very interesting video ! oh and it may have nothing to relate with this video but (as i do home music studio) what are your monitors ? (oh and on my side i chose a Matias Mac RGB Keyboard) Cheers from France !
Hello France!
It's odd, I came across these monitors years ago when I was building my radio studio. They are nothing fancy, but I love their response.
I got them from Studiospares who I think are now part of Gear4Music. I found them on Amazon though...ua-cam.com/video/O4ooXaYb28E/v-deo.htmlsi=CTY7VWkSOVG-dqb5
They are Siewin 248040
I just took a quick comparison, but if you want the same specs in a Macbook Pro 14 inch you have to pay £2,799 againt Mac Mini £2,199 with the same specs. So you save around £499 by not going portable.
...and trust me, the thing is, the Mac mini is VERY portable too! 👍🏼
@@DavidLewisTech Indeed. It’s smaller then the original Mac Mini that was the size of 5 CD covers stack upon each other. I was surprised how big the Mac Studio was when I checked that one out again.
I compared them in-store and the Studio is SO much bigger and heavier!
I’ve got a specked-up M4 Mac mini Pro on order, but now that I hear the M4 Studio Max could be coming as early as March, I’m wondering if I should wait. And by the way, internal storage is best, I don’t want the computer looking like an octopus.
I couldn’t pull the trigger on the mini for that same reason and I can’t justify getting a Mac Studio M2 Max as it will lose its value dramatically next year.
Only for the sake of thermals and cooling I think the Mac mini pro could be a problem in the long run.
They are oddly very close competitors. If funds allow, I will try to a Studio next year. But, I think even for my workflow, the Studio will be overkill. I guess it depends on what you do, but all I can tell you is this Mac mini has truly amazed me!
So far the thermals have been fine. I will consider closely what external SSD to go with as overheating can be an issue with them when editing from them...
@ worth waiting for Mac Studio m4? Or just save the money and get this and upgrade ssd to 1tb? Music production mainly for my band and a music video once or twice a year.
@@DavidLewisTech Do you happen to use Topaz Labs Video or Photo AI software? I’d like to know how the mini handles either of those.
I was frustrated by the instability of my PC specially after it went to sleep. This tiny Mac Mini caught my eye due to its size and it takes barely any space on my desk. There is no fan noise other than when I’m exporting a video, using apps is super smooth and fast, and I can now walk away from my desk and never have to worry about having to do a restart. The base model M4 Pro feels faster than my top spec PC except for video its on par but at more than half the price and it barely takes any space. For gaming Windows is still superior. Check your current RAM usage because 24GB is definitely enough for my work.
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All true real-world advice. He's right, these Mac minis out perform themselves for the price point!
Thanks for watching and commenting. 👌🏻
Thanks, David - great video. My hesitation to go with the mm m4 pro is the growing use of AI in apps like Lightroom and especially Topaz AI. The GPU gets heavily used and as time goes on, I worry the m4 pro will get more easily maxed out. My 2017 iMac struggles with Topaz Gigapixel so I am leaning toward the config you got - or waiting for the m4 Studio which will have more gpu. Do you have any concerns in this regard? BTW - I was shocked when downloading Gigapixel used 18 gig of space on my hard drive!
Hi Mark - 18GB! Geez, what is in that file, I wonder! All I can tell you is that this Mac mini has never struggled, beachballed or broken sweat. I could easily still be using the MacBook Pro you saw, but there is no net gain. Whilst the Studio will be a bit more powerful, it would take a helluva workflow to need it.
I hope that helps a bit, Mark.
Thanks. This is a great review.
A pleasure my friend 👊🏻
A relevant, practical, and real world review. Well done. Maybe I missed it here or in another video, but what is that red peripheral with the dials?
Thank you - I wanted to bring you as near as I could to my Mac.
I think the red dials you mentioned were when I did the benchmarks. Watch the video that I have put up a card for at the end of this video...it's all there for you 👊🏻
7:36 Between the iPhone and the AirPods Max. What is that?
That is a Scarlett 2i2 Audio Interface. I run my studio monitors through it
It looks pretty cool sitting there. Something about the analog dials and switches.
Looks cool & sounds cool 😎
I’ve been pondering “cross- grading” from my M1Max Studio (base, 2Tb). I don’t see it as any real power upgrade, and I know the dual video encoders in the max still beat out the ones in the M4Pro, but I’m still temped for the portability, the newer graphics for 3d and a wee bit of gaming, and unashamedly the sheer cuteness. For ref I do short vids (2-10 mins) in Final Cut and quite a bit of AfterEffects. All the usual Adobe stuff too, but I know it can chew thro that. What do you think?
Hi Bruce - another viewer has already switched from a Studio to a mini, which says it all! These minis are insane.
Yup, they are as cute as hell but also brilliant to use. I was expecting more of an issue with only having a single video encoder, but in that stress test video I linked to, it shows that there were only about 60 seconds on a 12-minute 4K video. On shorter videos, honestly, you won't notice it.
The portability is a huge win for me - I adore the mini, and it will eat through your workflow no problems.
@@DavidLewisTechBrilliant - perfect reply Thankyou 😃
May i know what made you shift from Adobe Premiere to Final Cut? Would FC have an equivalent of After Effects capabilities? Or do you need another 3rd party app for that?
hi - there was nothing really broken with Premiere Pro, but FCP seemed better optimised for Mac and also I have the option now to edit on the iPad as well. I find the colour is better on the final export from FCP too. I enjoyed my time with Premiere though and it taught me a lot. I hardly ever use After Effects...
Why installing Edge and Chrome browser?
What many people don't know:
Chrome is superfluous because the Edge browser uses the Chrome engine and is btw a smaller data octopus of your personal data❣️
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Hi JoJo - and welcome to the channel (hoping I've earned a sub 🙏🏻).
For some reason, I found that RiversideFM works better (for me, at least) when I use Edge. I only use Chrome for uploading my YT videos. Other than that, I'm Safari all day long!
Definitely will be buying the Mac mini m4 pro. However, for those who require the extra IO a cheaper and in my opinion a better alternative for a thunderbolt hub would be the Acasis tb4 docking station. It retails at $269 USD, and you can get it on sale for a little cheaper. It has 21 ports which is more than the ivanky and quite literally the same output. PS. Would love to see a review of that amazing dock David haha.
Hi Dan - great to hear from you.
The hubs play an important part in our desk setups, don't they! 21 ports! Damn, that's a lot! I was lucky that Ivanky sent me this one at the start of the year. I may well feature it in a video early next year. It's so well-built!
@@DavidLewisTechAwesome David keep up the great work mate. God bless you
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Hi David, i'm a prosummer that does photography and videography as a side gig. My videos would be 1-5min long for social media shot in 4k. Do you think i should get the m4 chip or the m4pro chip? When editing photos usually a 100 would be the max at a time, only a few tiems a year wear i would do more.
Hi there - I don't think you'd need the Pro chip. If you watch the video I put a card up for at the end of this video, you'll see me using a standard M4 Mac mini.
These things fly and for your needs will be more than adequate.
I hope that helps.
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God bless ya m8 but I’ll wait for the studio anyway!
...if AdSense and sponsors are kind to me, I'd love to get my hands on one of those too! 🙏🏻
Thank you sir
Always a pleasure!🙏🏻
I just came across this video and I’m just wondering what specs do you have with the Mac mini?Btw just subscribed..Thanks
Cool man - thanks for the sub 👍🏻
I put the specs up on screen near the start of the video, but they are:
M4 Pro (14/20 config)
48GB memory
1TB storage
10GB Ethernet
and it smokes! 👊🏻
@ Thanks , i’ll be ordering one either today or tomorrow.
Let me know what you end up going with spec-wise!
Just wondering if you have ever considered the EMF radiation environment in which you operate, particularly if use are using WiFi 6e. I am a subscriber btw, just waiting for the inevitable invite to Patreon, which I guess is understandable.
I hadn't ever considered I was at high risk! I've just looked it up - eek!
Thanks for the sub - and as yet no Patreon PayWalls from me! The sub suits me fine!! 😄
In 35 years of mac use in a professional design studio... I have never once touched a SD card. Photographers would supply images via zips, or MO. or CDs. DSL and cable became standard mid 90s, FTP. Using Fetch. then Transmit.
I love comments like this! It just helps me learn about other professional work environments which the nerd in me loves!! Thanks, James 👍🏻
@@DavidLewisTech Like anything else, its prob subjective. I started my design studio in 1989, we had 2 IIci's and 2 SE30s. Used QuarkXPress. newsletters, brochures, coupons, posters, whatever. My studio was asked to start a magazine (still printing 28 years later) and have been primarily doing magazine work ever since then.... including today. Over 500,000 pages? in several interests. Studio was largest about 20 years ago, 1998-2008. 2008 bubble broke us. 80% of my clients were in the home industry. I had 3 designers + 1 marketing person. I art directed and worked with dozens of photographers, illustrators, writers, etc (and no SD cards =). Our current largest client is a Luxury Real estate magazine. 9 cities across the USA, 54 mags a year. 30-40 GBs of images each issue. Not a SD car in sight. The number of macs Ive purchased and sold/free cycled since those IIcis is staggering. Not ot mention HDDs, zip diskz, jaz, MO, Orb, printers, switches, mice, etc, etc, etc (at least to me as a single purchaser). Not one PC ever. =) Close to retirement now... but still working those 50 books... thinking one last upgrade. Current 2020 27" iMacs to mini M4Pros with some screen... prob not the studio display... some other 5K screen that Im sure I will hate.
Memory bandwidth is gigaBYTES (GB/s) per second, not gigabits (Gb) per second. And the ethernet is 10 gigabits/sec, not gigabytes. There are 8 bits in a byte. I don't know why they switch between the 2 units, but they do, and it seems to trip up tech UA-camrs all over the world.
Do you think the 24GB of ram and 512 of SSD is good enough for recording music in logic pro and editing videos on DR and Final Cut? ill be using external SSDs. Just wasnt a higher option of ram on Best Buys web site :( Thats the part im most worried about.
As you are using external SSD the 512Gb is fine.
From my tests on the Mac mini (non-pro - watch the video I've put a card up for at the end) 24Gb will work, but if you can manage to go for 48GB - so much the better
One thing I have to say...... Dongle, the definition, was originally based on software protection "DONGLES", like Emagic's protectection device, As was syncrosoft, Bias..... Hell , even a cartridge that you plugged into an atari to run Cubase V1,,,,
Stop saying Docks / Expansions are dongles..... It really gets under my skin !
Why... Because , a breakout box IS NOT A DONGLE
(disclaimer... Watching this on a 5.1 Frankenstein..OSX11 , because it the last OS before Apple dropped SYS wide FW core audio support....)
Its M4 Pro Mac Mini, not the other way around ;)
Liked and sub'd. G'day from Tasmania. $0.02
Good man Matthew! Thank you and G'day from a rainy London!
Don't waste your precious money being ripped off by Apple
whatever....
@@DavidLewisTech I simply stated the truth. They rip you off for something that is not worth the money. Good stuff? Yeah...still not worth the money. Objectively. Fan boy.
This thing is useless don’t buy it. Get Roku instead
I do love a well-structured argument!