Boar on the floor might be THE most terrifying and disturbing scene I've seen that didn't have one drop of blood or gore. The tension, Brian Cox's lion like acting was just AMAZING and so scary.
In those moments when Shiv hurts Tom, you can really see it in his eyes. Incredible acting. Just pay attention to MacFadyens eyes next time Tom and Shiv interact with each other, you can basically study his emotions throughout the scene.
Roman genuinely likes Piece because Logan likes it and he's all about being the strongest and most powerful person on the planet with little regard for how it plays out for people are large. Roman is family first. As long as his family, particularly his dad is happy then he doesn't really care. Roman is also super focused on getting over on Kendall because like I said, he doesn't get why Kendall gets to betray their dad and still come off like the number 1 son. On the outside looking in, Kendall got off easily with Logan and from Roman's perspective he's done everything right but he still has to play second fiddle to Kendall. Regarding Shiv and Tom, I think Shiv genuinely doesn't think Tom loves her for her so she acts accordingly. She thinks their relationship is transactional.
I like the quiet little breakfast scene where Greg thanks Tom for keeping his secret and Tom puts his hand on Greg's arm... such a sweet moment of calm after all the nightmarish scenes. Your Succession reactions are great, I always look forward to them!
Tom is weak on the outside, but strong on the inside. He's like an inverted version of all the siblings. Roman, Kendall and Shiv are strong on the outside, but weak on the inside.
I can only feel sorry for Tom until the moment I remember he's doing all this aspirationally. He's not stuck in some situation, he's where he put a lot of work and effort into climbing himself to. He could walk away from everything right this this second and go work as a clerk somewhere and be set for several normie lifetimes. He's a power addict.
I think something that exemplifies that is how he's been "standing up for himself" more now that he feels like he's getting robbed of his chance - also at their dinner at Roman's he told Shiv to shut up but said absolutely nothing to Roman, he only ever stands up to her and i think that says something (not counting Greg bc Greg can't do anything for him, so Tom standing up to him doesn't matter imo). I also personally don't see how Shiv *tricked* him given that there was no clause about cheating in the prenup and she straight up said if they end up seeing random people here and there they can work it out - as in it's not a deal breaker... i feel like that's a good indication that she was picturing them engaging in those behaviors but maybe that's just me idk
yessssss, great take. He could probably get a job in his field, elsewhere and make enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his life. It was this real shift in perception for me during the show, the first couple seasons I loved him and had this wealth of empathy and then it just .... faded out
There is really a moment in this series where you realize that these people are so terrible you just start giggling at the absurdity - I love this episode and it’s one that makes me laugh everytime, Logan is so evil man lol His children had no chance lmao Also I really enjoyed you guys’ reaction to Tom!
This is where the series kicks into ultra-high gear. The next few episodes are top tier and the last two of the season are some of the best ever. Season 2 is really the cream of the crop.
Just to be clear. This is isn't a comment, this is a pre-cursor to see if I might be willing to comment. I'm a time-pressed executive, so before we even get to the ethical considerations, can I eke out time in my calendar?
I mean yes, like you know, this is essentially Disney meets amazon meets threads you know its the next big thing like you got to be crazy to not see that you know what I mean?
And even if she was there, no doubt she'd be the one person who says F you dad and left the dinner, abandoning Tom to the embarrassing witch hunt. EDIT: SPOILERS that happens in a later season episode during the connor retreat, so evidence!
the loyalty tests are so real, all these billionaires have loyalty tests and constant mind games and shit like that. one of the conditions of warren buffets most recent divorce was that his ex was not allowed to give any suggestions or stories to the Succession writers, like this show is a documentary even more so than Veep was
This episode kinda destroyed me! My father was exactly like logan in that dinner scene. I had to bark like a dog or dance like clown for a little treat. If I refused it was not boar on the floor, it was a beating to bleeding.
Ngl that's why i find it so odd when people treat this scene like it's hilarious or kind of ridicule the characters for not standing up for themselves or whatever, i'd be incredibly surprised if it turned out they ever dealt with someone actually similar to Logan
You guys are kind of forgetting how and when Tom proposed to Shiv. The marriage never should have happened because it came about because of manipulation. Siobhan just went along with it because she can control Tom, not out of any actual desire to be married to him.
It was very strange for me to talk to all of my female friends about this show and they had nothing but good things to say about Roman. And I think he’s the only one of the Roy kids on Logan’s level of inhumanity. Also, I don’t feel like he’s written as witty or smooth talking. He’s constantly fumbling his words, he thinks of the same insults that a 13 year old would, and he consistently undermines good business ideas. He’s not a very enjoyable character overall, but Kieran Culkin portrays him masterfully.
my presumption is we're just lowkey trauma bonding with these terrible fictional people not that Roman's this cool sexy funny guy. Like I'm a lesbian and he's my favourite of the three without a doubt. It's just wild to me the way Kendall can do awful things but it's ok because he feels a bit bad after (and I love him but Kendall blinders are r e a l) but Roman's the monster for having trauma manifest in ways that's more difficult to watch, these awful half truth barbs, and like visceral discomfort idk. It's just so often pitted as one brother against the other by the audience and it feels like, no that's the whole thing we're not supposed to be doing - that's the whole gig.
@@natasha7760 Ngl your last sentence is why i can't genuinely dislike the siblings even if i tried. Roman is my least favorite (or Connor is, depending) but he's still incredibly interesting and it's very clear his behavior is barely his own if that makes sense - and i definitely don't take pleasure in seeing him suffer like some seem to (just in this episode seeing him so terrified when his call was "exposed" was tough). But i feel about Shiv the way you feel about him lmao even just talking about the first couple of seasons i feel like she garners *very* odd takes. At the end of the day the enemy is Logan lmao there's no ifs or buts about it, he's legitimately terrible like at least i can find the kids some redeeming qualities and whatnot
@@natasha7760 I agree with most of what you're saying here but I think saying Kendall "feels a bit bad" is massively understating it. I don't believe in pitting the siblings against each other in that way anyways, bc all of them are dealing with trauma and how they deal with it manifests very differently. But it makes sense people will find some manifestations more relatable than others depending on their own personal history and sense of morality, etc.
@@sparkleclover Totally also 'by feels a bit bad' I don't mean the weight of grief of the waiter that overarches everything. I mean bad behaviour like in the Prague episode where he tries to spread rumours about the girls being sl*ts and junkies because they didn't accept his money offer, or his reaction to dog cage etc, and later stuff I can't say without being spoiler-y. 'Personal sense of morality' feels like a read but I'll be getting reaaaal quiet during my Roman defence on those political episodes for s u r e aha, but I think the personal history informing who you gravitate to is so so true. But yes, trauma be trauma-ing
@@soniaiboyako4023 yessssss, watching male reactors (specifically) react to Shiv is often painfully hit and miss. They'll watch the boys union bust at vaulter and take away healthcare and be like but Shiv cheated so she's evil?? and it's like okkkk - like she can be both often morally correct, a bad person and victim of misogyny. My girl is out here with nuance. I honestly think the only character I can't abide redemptive value in is Logan
Not from US and English isn't my first language, sowhat does the question mean? - What quantity of milk is in 1 gallon? - What is the price of 1 gallon of milk?
@@kvm6 It was a question asked by Logan to Roman, to show how disconnected with reality people around him are. The guy wants to "order" a multi billion dollar company via phone, and does not know the basic goods prices. Why should he? His whole life it was just there for him. Personal shoppers, personal chefs etc., and the milk was always in the fridge, so who cares how much does it cost. He was born rich. Logan wasn't, and he understands that a successful man, even though has multiple people for various tasks should at least be somewhat grounded in reality. But in the end, he rised the kids that way, so... Basic goods are also elements of the "inflation basket", a group of goods an "average" person buys, and (simplyfying) changes of prices of these goods, their proportional share of that basket mean a consumer inflation. There is also a line about how many people live in Indonesia in the Thanksgiving episode in season 1 I believe, and he also does not care, which is also a mistake. It is like the 4th most populous country in the world, fast growing, still poor, but these global companies know that they have to be present on such markets, because they are relatively easy to conquer, easier than the mature ones, and once you are there, you stay there and in 10, 20 years it will be a far wealkthier country, and you will have a market there. That is basic stuff, and yeah, such people do have serious reasearch and market data, but basic info needs to be known at hand, so you know it is like more than twice as populous as Mexico. And Waystar is present in Asia as we know. Anyway I also come from a country where imperial units are not used, and had to check what the volume of a gallon is - 3,785 liters :), and the price, in my country, after conversion is like 3 USD I believe. (in the USA it is 4,32USD, at least Google says so)
I can't really tell from your discussion if you understood or not, but just in case you didn't I'll leave this here: Greg is the one who talked, along with probably other members of the inner circle. The guy who died was just a scapegoat that they laid the blame on in order to divert attention away from themselves. Since he's dead he can't defend himself and technically nobody gets hurt.
I will say since people often forget about it, while Shiv is obviously the more abusive partner in the relationship, Tom also cheated on Shiv at his bachelor party. Tom was excited the whole episode about getting to have weird sex with strangers at the underground club, but there's a moment where Greg points out his hypocrisy and says that if he's allowed to fuck around, that means Shiv can too, and Tom was instantly like "no, of course not, the woman doesn't get to cheat on the man, what a silly notion lmao" like, it wouldn't even cross his mind to feel guilty about cheating, only hurt that Shiv cheated on him.
I dont like to criticise...bt whwn u talk in between reactions...u miss some dialogs nd scene....while talking u also need to pay attention girls...specially the right one in the video
BOAR ON THE FLOOR
Full hearted oinks!!!
oink you piggies
Connor talking about the elites being scared while having a glass of the most expensive wine in the whole city in his hand is just too fucking great.
Boar on the floor might be THE most terrifying and disturbing scene I've seen that didn't have one drop of blood or gore. The tension, Brian Cox's lion like acting was just AMAZING and so scary.
I couldn’t breathe the first time I watched it! I felt like I was in the room getting yelled at. Brian Cox. What a force
Matthew McFadyen's acting chops just blow me away.
"Anything to report?"
"Do you want to know."
McFadyen's eyes.
Damn
In those moments when Shiv hurts Tom, you can really see it in his eyes. Incredible acting. Just pay attention to MacFadyens eyes next time Tom and Shiv interact with each other, you can basically study his emotions throughout the scene.
"shiv is thinking shes getting her cake and eating it too"
you summed up 4 seasons of shiv roy
Roman genuinely likes Piece because Logan likes it and he's all about being the strongest and most powerful person on the planet with little regard for how it plays out for people are large. Roman is family first. As long as his family, particularly his dad is happy then he doesn't really care. Roman is also super focused on getting over on Kendall because like I said, he doesn't get why Kendall gets to betray their dad and still come off like the number 1 son. On the outside looking in, Kendall got off easily with Logan and from Roman's perspective he's done everything right but he still has to play second fiddle to Kendall. Regarding Shiv and Tom, I think Shiv genuinely doesn't think Tom loves her for her so she acts accordingly. She thinks their relationship is transactional.
Roman Idolizes and respects his dad the most of the siblings
That's a good point about Shiv and Tom, I didn't think about it this way
I think Shiv treats Tom similar to how Logan treats the children. Kick them over and over and see how many times they'll come crawling back.
I like the quiet little breakfast scene where Greg thanks Tom for keeping his secret and Tom puts his hand on Greg's arm... such a sweet moment of calm after all the nightmarish scenes. Your Succession reactions are great, I always look forward to them!
Tom is weak on the outside, but strong on the inside.
He's like an inverted version of all the siblings. Roman, Kendall and Shiv are strong on the outside, but weak on the inside.
Yeah I agree. His ability to take punishment is unparalleled except for maybe greg
It’s why he eventually runs shit, and why he pulls Greg (somebody who absolutely nobody really takes seriously) to be his #2.
"Frank does have friends in dry places" is such a genius line that I completely missed while watching it myself
idgi
@@margaritakmp Its a word play on the saying "friends in high places"
"How I look is off the record, ok?" I love Greg.
I can only feel sorry for Tom until the moment I remember he's doing all this aspirationally. He's not stuck in some situation, he's where he put a lot of work and effort into climbing himself to. He could walk away from everything right this this second and go work as a clerk somewhere and be set for several normie lifetimes. He's a power addict.
Exactly. The siblings were born into this, but Tom is actively choosing to be here and has no desire to let go.
I think something that exemplifies that is how he's been "standing up for himself" more now that he feels like he's getting robbed of his chance - also at their dinner at Roman's he told Shiv to shut up but said absolutely nothing to Roman, he only ever stands up to her and i think that says something (not counting Greg bc Greg can't do anything for him, so Tom standing up to him doesn't matter imo). I also personally don't see how Shiv *tricked* him given that there was no clause about cheating in the prenup and she straight up said if they end up seeing random people here and there they can work it out - as in it's not a deal breaker... i feel like that's a good indication that she was picturing them engaging in those behaviors but maybe that's just me idk
yessssss, great take. He could probably get a job in his field, elsewhere and make enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his life. It was this real shift in perception for me during the show, the first couple seasons I loved him and had this wealth of empathy and then it just .... faded out
There is really a moment in this series where you realize that these people are so terrible you just start giggling at the absurdity - I love this episode and it’s one that makes me laugh everytime, Logan is so evil man lol His children had no chance lmao
Also I really enjoyed you guys’ reaction to Tom!
This is where the series kicks into ultra-high gear. The next few episodes are top tier and the last two of the season are some of the best ever. Season 2 is really the cream of the crop.
It's so funny to me that Roman. of all people, calls Kendall a suck up
Whenever one of the kids craps on another kid for wanting parental validation, it's hilariously hypocritical
At this point in the show, he isn't a suck up, he's barely even a person.
For the entire season, Kendall behaves like a lobotomized 12 year old kid, so I think Roman is actually pretty spot on.
@@the_crypter yeah but Roman is just as suck up as Kendall
10:43 "Not many campaign posters use mugshots."
2024 IRL: Hold my beer ...
Just to be clear. This is isn't a comment, this is a pre-cursor to see if I might be willing to comment. I'm a time-pressed executive, so before we even get to the ethical considerations, can I eke out time in my calendar?
I mean yes, like you know, this is essentially Disney meets amazon meets threads you know its the next big thing like you got to be crazy to not see that you know what I mean?
Connor Roy was interested in politics at a very young age. :)
Never forget that while Tom was embarasing himself in front of everyone he works with and his wife's entire family, Shiv was fucking around.
And even if she was there, no doubt she'd be the one person who says F you dad and left the dinner, abandoning Tom to the embarrassing witch hunt.
EDIT: SPOILERS that happens in a later season episode during the connor retreat, so evidence!
Counter evidence, season 2 finale.
I like Gerry, sooo much. And love your reaction. Thank you!
This is the episode the writers announced they were the best on TV.
fact
I fucking love milk and I'm not afraid to say it
It's so hilarious how noone in the room tried to defy Logan and made him see sense, not even Geri.
the loyalty tests are so real, all these billionaires have loyalty tests and constant mind games and shit like that. one of the conditions of warren buffets most recent divorce was that his ex was not allowed to give any suggestions or stories to the Succession writers, like this show is a documentary even more so than Veep was
This episode kinda destroyed me! My father was exactly like logan in that dinner scene. I had to bark like a dog or dance like clown for a little treat. If I refused it was not boar on the floor, it was a beating to bleeding.
Ngl that's why i find it so odd when people treat this scene like it's hilarious or kind of ridicule the characters for not standing up for themselves or whatever, i'd be incredibly surprised if it turned out they ever dealt with someone actually similar to Logan
The funny thing about you 2 watching the series.... this is not even CLOSE to how toxic this family gets in the next seasons. Strap in.
Whew!! Watching this back with them makes you realize boar on the floor was light work!!!
god your reactions to this show are so good, you're the first people i've seen who *get it* lol
Ngl i would kill it at boar on the floor. I'd be so good I'd get a full ride to college just from boar on the floor
Lol
You guys are kind of forgetting how and when Tom proposed to Shiv. The marriage never should have happened because it came about because of manipulation. Siobhan just went along with it because she can control Tom, not out of any actual desire to be married to him.
Yay, you started watching the inside the episode again.
10:46…gee, did that age. 😂
I love your reactions. Edited scenes are done well and the work is appreciated.
One of the best episodes of the series, IMO.
It was very strange for me to talk to all of my female friends about this show and they had nothing but good things to say about Roman. And I think he’s the only one of the Roy kids on Logan’s level of inhumanity. Also, I don’t feel like he’s written as witty or smooth talking. He’s constantly fumbling his words, he thinks of the same insults that a 13 year old would, and he consistently undermines good business ideas. He’s not a very enjoyable character overall, but Kieran Culkin portrays him masterfully.
my presumption is we're just lowkey trauma bonding with these terrible fictional people not that Roman's this cool sexy funny guy. Like I'm a lesbian and he's my favourite of the three without a doubt. It's just wild to me the way Kendall can do awful things but it's ok because he feels a bit bad after (and I love him but Kendall blinders are r e a l) but Roman's the monster for having trauma manifest in ways that's more difficult to watch, these awful half truth barbs, and like visceral discomfort idk. It's just so often pitted as one brother against the other by the audience and it feels like, no that's the whole thing we're not supposed to be doing - that's the whole gig.
@@natasha7760 Ngl your last sentence is why i can't genuinely dislike the siblings even if i tried. Roman is my least favorite (or Connor is, depending) but he's still incredibly interesting and it's very clear his behavior is barely his own if that makes sense - and i definitely don't take pleasure in seeing him suffer like some seem to (just in this episode seeing him so terrified when his call was "exposed" was tough). But i feel about Shiv the way you feel about him lmao even just talking about the first couple of seasons i feel like she garners *very* odd takes. At the end of the day the enemy is Logan lmao there's no ifs or buts about it, he's legitimately terrible like at least i can find the kids some redeeming qualities and whatnot
@@natasha7760 I agree with most of what you're saying here but I think saying Kendall "feels a bit bad" is massively understating it. I don't believe in pitting the siblings against each other in that way anyways, bc all of them are dealing with trauma and how they deal with it manifests very differently. But it makes sense people will find some manifestations more relatable than others depending on their own personal history and sense of morality, etc.
@@sparkleclover Totally also 'by feels a bit bad' I don't mean the weight of grief of the waiter that overarches everything. I mean bad behaviour like in the Prague episode where he tries to spread rumours about the girls being sl*ts and junkies because they didn't accept his money offer, or his reaction to dog cage etc, and later stuff I can't say without being spoiler-y. 'Personal sense of morality' feels like a read but I'll be getting reaaaal quiet during my Roman defence on those political episodes for s u r e aha, but I think the personal history informing who you gravitate to is so so true. But yes, trauma be trauma-ing
@@soniaiboyako4023 yessssss, watching male reactors (specifically) react to Shiv is often painfully hit and miss. They'll watch the boys union bust at vaulter and take away healthcare and be like but Shiv cheated so she's evil?? and it's like okkkk - like she can be both often morally correct, a bad person and victim of misogyny. My girl is out here with nuance. I honestly think the only character I can't abide redemptive value in is Logan
How much is a gallon of milk?
Not from US and English isn't my first language, sowhat does the question mean?
- What quantity of milk is in 1 gallon?
- What is the price of 1 gallon of milk?
@@kvm6obviously price
@@albinaalbina6971 thanks!
@@kvm6 It was a question asked by Logan to Roman, to show how disconnected with reality people around him are. The guy wants to "order" a multi billion dollar company via phone, and does not know the basic goods prices. Why should he? His whole life it was just there for him. Personal shoppers, personal chefs etc., and the milk was always in the fridge, so who cares how much does it cost. He was born rich. Logan wasn't, and he understands that a successful man, even though has multiple people for various tasks should at least be somewhat grounded in reality. But in the end, he rised the kids that way, so... Basic goods are also elements of the "inflation basket", a group of goods an "average" person buys, and (simplyfying) changes of prices of these goods, their proportional share of that basket mean a consumer inflation.
There is also a line about how many people live in Indonesia in the Thanksgiving episode in season 1 I believe, and he also does not care, which is also a mistake. It is like the 4th most populous country in the world, fast growing, still poor, but these global companies know that they have to be present on such markets, because they are relatively easy to conquer, easier than the mature ones, and once you are there, you stay there and in 10, 20 years it will be a far wealkthier country, and you will have a market there. That is basic stuff, and yeah, such people do have serious reasearch and market data, but basic info needs to be known at hand, so you know it is like more than twice as populous as Mexico. And Waystar is present in Asia as we know.
Anyway I also come from a country where imperial units are not used, and had to check what the volume of a gallon is - 3,785 liters :), and the price, in my country, after conversion is like 3 USD I believe. (in the USA it is 4,32USD, at least Google says so)
ooh
boar on the floor
Great reaction to this Episode.
Oink for your sausages piggies always gets me 😂😂
I can't really tell from your discussion if you understood or not, but just in case you didn't I'll leave this here: Greg is the one who talked, along with probably other members of the inner circle. The guy who died was just a scapegoat that they laid the blame on in order to divert attention away from themselves. Since he's dead he can't defend himself and technically nobody gets hurt.
Greg didn't talk as much as Mo did.
Ken might have, because he's a Trojan horse.
BOARRRR ON THE FLORRRRR
“Not many campaign posters use mugshots”…. 😬 uhhhhh
Best episode yet
Roman the best character of the show
My favorite episode.
Yall dressed like it's winter in mid July 🍦😂
There's an AC in the room
@@Diegesis i figured. Love the fits
I will say since people often forget about it, while Shiv is obviously the more abusive partner in the relationship, Tom also cheated on Shiv at his bachelor party. Tom was excited the whole episode about getting to have weird sex with strangers at the underground club, but there's a moment where Greg points out his hypocrisy and says that if he's allowed to fuck around, that means Shiv can too, and Tom was instantly like "no, of course not, the woman doesn't get to cheat on the man, what a silly notion lmao" like, it wouldn't even cross his mind to feel guilty about cheating, only hurt that Shiv cheated on him.
I love these reactions.
Boar on the fucking floor!
sooo muchhh moreeee
KINO
🥛
I dont like to criticise...bt whwn u talk in between reactions...u miss some dialogs nd scene....while talking u also need to pay attention girls...specially the right one in the video
Shiv is a heartless demon. Tom will get the last laugh
I tought Tom made that up? No?
LUV ME SUM MAPLE
Smashing pair on her
Cannot believe reaction channels are still a thing
Right?!
@@Diegesis die channel
@@acmartialarts2227you have got to find something else to do