The Murder of Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg were murdered on a trip from British Columbia down to Seattle, Washington. It took authorities 31 years before they solved the case with the help of Genetic Genealogy.
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Im an ER nurse right outside Washington, DC. For years I worked alongside a man who set off my inner alarms, even though everyone else seemed to love him. One day he was arrested thanks to genealogy being used by investigators.
Turns out he was stealing ketamine from where we worked, going to the apartment building pools that hire seasonal lifeguards from Eastern Europe, drugging, binding, and violently raping them. He had been doing it for years in several counties before he was caught. While he didn't literally murder anyone, one of his victims testified that she died on that day. He also had a wife and kid at home and was on our ER running team. His name is Jesse Bjerke and he was sentenced to 65 years.
I'm all for genealogy being used to stop these people.
The "we have to wait at least 48 hours before filing a missing persons report," excuse is legit one of the most frustrating things to hear in a true crime story.
48 hours? You mean 24 - which isn't true, either.
It's all over the place. Sometimes it's 24, sometimes it's 48. In this case, it was 72. Either way it's obnoxious to hear in a murder case.
@@ElaAusDemTalthat used to be the standard response 30.40.50. Yrs ago, they’d tell you an adult had to be missing 48 hours before they could file a missing persons report!
It's actually still used sometimes, and then when the people who are desperately looking to find their missing loved one tells that to a journalist, the police objects and claims that that's simply not true. It's just ALL the people who try to report someone missing who have misunderstood... 🥴🤦
police when asked to do their jobs
Jiles is the main man ,so professional ,his content is 10/10
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Love his narration!
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The best!
I was talking about this season to my neighbor who then told me her mothers killer was recently found after 31 years. Her mother was brutally stabbed to death. She said they used letters to mark the wounds and had to repeat almost every letter in the alphabet. Turns out, it was her fathers bestfriend, the god-father of her children. He was at the funeral, family home, and had been offering his support the last 30 years, meanwhile he was the one to take her life.
Crazy sht
I think that's why it's common practice for police to look at any males in the female victim's life. Whenever a woman is murdered, chances are it's a man who knows her and is regularly in her life.
@nothanks9912 yep, they dropped the ball on this one. She was found in an abandoned house, and they assumed she was there buying drugs....early 90s stereotype. They didn't consider that she was Muslim and firmly opposed to any drinking or drug use. The guy killed another woman and confessed for a lighter sentence. It would still be a cold case if not for his confession 30 years later.
@@user-jd3vi2pg1gYou are heartless
Canadians crossing into the USA… Is like Americans crossing into Tijuana Mexico…
“WARNING! DANGER ⚠️ ENTER HERE AT YOUR OWN RISK!” Think twice! 👀
I remember this case from when it was originally on Unsolved Mysteries over 30 years ago. This is one of the ones that always stuck with me because they were only a couple years older than me. When i heard that this had been solved i was actually shocked because i figured it would remain a cold case forever. The Golden State Killer broke a dam with this genetic genealogy & honestly anyone who committed a murder years ago & got away with it should just go ahead & turn themselves in.
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@@user-jd3vi2pg1g what the fuck are you about? Way to just try & bring attention to yourself & because dumb asshole.
The golden state killer didn't do anything but murder. It was the detectives on the case who broke the dam for cold cases. Give credit to the right people.
@@christinesbetterknitting4533 Ummm what???? I'm trying to say this as tactfully as possible but what the hell are you talking about? The GSK started out as a serial burglar known as the Visalia Ransacker where he attempted to kidnap a teenage girl & wound up killing her father then later attempting to kill the police chief.
He then went on to become a serial rapist then a serial killer. He was WAY more than just a killer. Also, it was in FACT his case that broke the dam because before that genic genealogy had only been attempted once and it led to a false positive, this is the first case that actually solved a case so seriously what the hell are you talking about?
@@christinesbetterknitting4533 I think you missed the boat on this one :(
I was on a jury for a domestic abuse and kidnapping trial. The defense was really good in jury selection and asked if there were any victims of domestic or sexual assault in the jury box. Five of us raised our hands. The defense attorney asked me "Do you believe you can be impartial toward the defendant?" I replied that I could. "How can you be sure?" I replied "Because HE wasnt the one who hurt me and this case isnt about me." The silence was stunning.
Its possible to separate your experiences from the current moment and be unbiased. If you cant, youll never get out of bed in the morning.
What a cracking answer you gave and as I picture myself hypothetical being there and hearing you say those words a big smile come on my face because of your iown personal experience (sorry for that) there is nothing the defence cld say to your genuine perfect answer. Regards from the U.K
Exactly 👍🏼
I feel like that question among a group of strangers is an invasion of your privacy anyway
@@patedwards8844it’s not. Many jurors will make emotional decisions versus making judgements based on the evidence presented. Jury selection can’t weed out all of those people but it’s about reducing the probability of that occurring. How would you feel if you or a loved one were found guilty of something based on a ‘feeling’ instead of evidence?
@@whosaidthat9265 if you had a horrible experience in your life & have yet to share it with a shrink much less the public, would you be able to speak up? Some ppl are in the midst of working on their own ordeals & sharing this when they're not ready is traumatic for them. Question should be, "can you make a decision without prejudice?" and leave it at that.
So many cases are being solved now, thanks to GED Match, Othram Labs, and others like them. I've been obsessed with true crime since the early 80s. I used to think all these freaks were going to get away with what they've done and be able to hide in plain sight. But it seems the tables are turning and so many families are finally getting answers/justice.
Thanks for covering this case Jiles!!!! ❤
I've been loosely keeping track of this case because I'm a true crime junkie, AND I'm a longtime Seattle area resident. Even with Parabon, Othram and other labs, I didn't think they'd ever find the perpetrator of these crimes. I'm impressed and relieved they finally did!
The fact that they claimed he had sex with Tanya with her permission would have told me he was guilty. Considering she wanted her friend to go with her on the trip so things wouldn't have been awkward, tells me this girl wasn't someone to have casual sex. What about the fact he had the van, but Tanya and Jay were not with him? That's so big, red flag. It wouldn't have taken much more to convince me he was guilty.
The DNA alone gives it credibility!
I've been missing videos of cold cases that have been solved, there's something so complex and special about them. Thanks for doing this my guy!
So glad you're doing a cold cases solved because there are so many now with genealogy it's hard to keep track of them all.
It never ceases to amaze me how sick monsters get their jollies from killing people and then can live with themselves. Monsters.
I agree. Their murders were so senselessly violent (shoving cigarettes down someone's throat?!) and the rape... I don't understand how someone could do that and go about their life. But that's because *I have a conscience* and the rapist murderer obviously doesn't
The whole thing with the cops not wanting to search for the guy’s missing son, I’d say if they up and left than I’d report my van as stolen so they get on it right away
In most cities these days, a stolen vehicle doesn’t even merit a cop even bothering….
@@AnnieBoBannie421There was a car behind my garage with the keys in the ignition.I reported it to the Detroit police. It sat there for two years before they came and got it. The reason nobody touched it is because bodies all to often are found in the trunk.
@@RasheedGazzi-u5l wow!!! 2 years? That’s sad
Thank you so much for doing this very old case. I'd not seen it once before when the great news about the genetic genealogy came out. I was blown away by the first 5 or 6 cases that had been solved. Fell in love with CeCe Moore. That lady is an Angel from above. Great video!
This case is so heartbreaking. The randomness and cold heartedness are on another level with rhis one. Just so tragic and such a mindless horror. Great job thoroughly and respectfully covering a many faceted and complex case.
I love watching your views growing by the minute!
I'm obviously not the only who loves your work mate 🌏🇦🇺
Always good to see Canadian cases being covered on my favourite true crime channels. I feel sorry for the friend who didn't come along; survivor's guilt is real, as I've known for over two decades since losing my younger brother.
Hey Monsters!
And a Sinister episode too!
I knew the dad of Tanya. Broke my heart. I live on Vancouver Island as they both did as well. Btw, it’s pronounced, ‘sanich’. Saanich is an indigenous name. Great video ❤
@@user-jd3vi2pg1g 🤣 you need to stop watching UA-cam and get a life.
A new season. Thanks, Jiles!
What great storytelling! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks! 😊
Yey new season, good morning monster family and Jiles, thank you 💐
Just woke up, it's 3:26 am here. Was happy to see a new video 😊 now I'm wide awake
I've been away from your channel for awhile (or any crime channel really) but this season will bring me back, there's redemption to these stories that bring a somewhat positive light.
A murder in my town was recently solved due to a familial DNA match from one of those DIY DNA tests as well. Pretty neat.
What murder? Don’t tease me like that.
What murder!??? You have to tell us…… we have to know!!!!
@@thisisMONSTERS Renee Sweeney from Sudbury, Ontario.
@@user-jd3vi2pg1g way to be a petty lil bitch
Great way to start the day. Good morning from South Africa
Gm from USA! ❤
That was AWESOME! I was only 17 when this happened. It's amazing to know that so many cases from when I was young now have the chance of being solved.
Congratulations to all who helped put this monster behind bars if you have any relations or family members that you have serious concerns about please get a Genetic Genealogy test done and give permission for the results to be used in any criminal investigation.
I have one in my family who I would describe as a seriously perverted individual and I will be getting a Genetic Genealogy test done.
Really Interesting approach with the next season, lookin forward to it!
Thanks for keeping my late night grind alive !
NO LAWS anywhere in the US or canada say you HAVE to wait ANY amount of time, if they ask you to wait ask for a supervisor or boss absolutely go above thier head!
Good Morning .. There's no escaping DNA and Forensic Sciences. Really enjoyed this one ..
Hey QT! I always await your hard work and smooth narrative. This is a great story!RIP, Tanya and Jay
Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos xx
Also, just a historical note: While Cece Moore has been involved in many high profile FIGG cases, the first case in the U.S. to be closed with FIGG was the Canal Killer case in Phoenix, and the genetic genealogist was Colleen Fitzpatrick. She is one of the co-founders of the DNADoe Project, a nonprofit organization that uses genetic genealogy to find the identities of John and Jane Does.
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Good morning, TIM & S Family!
I don't think there is any privacy being violated with this genealogical DNA being used to solve crimes. If you don't commit murder or rape or kidnapping, etc., it really doesn't matter if your DNA is out there. Don't be a criminal and you have nothing to worry about.
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I totally agree
By that logic the NSA surveillance leaks are okay and good for us too, lmao. Theyre equally dangerous concepts
Exactly!
I love these shows where a criminal thought they got away with it until they get a knock on their door!
I think so too. But I think this only stands as long as North America has solid police, government and labs that don't try to plant evidence. Knowing how often those in power abuse gives me shivers down my spine. I worry that in the future this kind of DNA evidence might be abused, and then suddenly investigators wont be able to use it anymore...
Wow! I’ve done that exact drive myself! It’s absolutely gorgeous, especially if you do the reverse and from Bremerton, go up, around and down the coast of the Olympic Peninsula to Oregon. Thanks for another great story. Looking forward to this season. I get so angry anytime someone between 15-19 goes missing and the first thing the cops say is: They probably ran off. Very few kids actually run off especially if the family verifies there was no fight or problem.
@@user-jd3vi2pg1g don’t be an ass! I put that so others would know what a gorgeous drive it is! Didn’t your mother tell you if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all?
ThisIsMonsters, thank you so much for this "Solved" Season.
Have a hard time with unsolved cases. Take care.
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It’s 1:07 am where I am! Yay! A new episode. Thank you!
3:17 a.m. here 👋😃
It's 2:38 here in Alabama US and I felt the same way when I saw a new one up .I watch a lot of true crime and lots of different host and his r very well done with much respect shown to the victims and info that seems to be left out from others .I also love Stephanie Harlowe for the same reason .Hello from here 🖐️
It's 9:45 a.m. here in Germany
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Good morning, Jiles and good morning to everyone else who loves watching "This Is Monsters", no matter what time of day it is where you are watching from right now! 😘
9:46am here in Ireland now 🇮🇪🤗
💃🏿💃🏿Great way to start my morning.
Hello fellow Monsters!!!
Once you get out of the main metro areas of Washington the wild terrain is truly immense
New season who dis
Yes, a lot of people are now looking over their shoulders and living in fear. They are just waiting for a knock at the door by the police...
Which when you look at the statistics on violent crime is strange but explainable. There's actually far less violent and especially deadly, serious sexual assault crimes being committed now than during the 70s through to the 90s which were the worst years ever on record, especially for serial killers. Partly due to the fact that most are caught far quicker than they were due to DNA and far better contact between forces, far better techniques in collecting evidence, cameras everywhere with software which can match faces, car makes etc from video footage, the resources the police etc have access to like huge databases of fingerprints, DNA and similar cases from the entire country and computers to make the match, and a better understanding of the type of person who would be responsible etc but also the fear of being caught can keep a few who might have crossed the line in earlier years. However the fact society as a whole is more worried about it and parents are more protective of their kids or at least far less likely to let them go out and play and basically go anywhere or at least go places where they aren't being watched is due to the Internet, 24hr news, social media, etc which have all brought such things to our minds far more and made us far more aware of the dangers even if it's a slightly unrealistic fear by comparison to the reality of life and the dangers as they are.
@@itarry4 the dropping of the violent crime rate is "strangely" coinciding with the removal of Lead in gasoline... Lead in even small amounts at the developmental stages causes neurological development issues that causes violent and aggressive attitudes... so it wasn't Rock n Roll nor Rap music ,or D&D or Video Games.. it was Lead Poisoning. Hence the dropping of the rates After it was banned.
@@kobked-x yhea I'd imagine things exactly like that have had a huge effect on crime rates. Lead from petrol, better water pipes, etc. However the "experts" do say it's very possible we'll get another spike in serial killers, violent crime, etc due to the economic and other social factors being very similar to ones just before the 70s, 80s spike and the effect such factors have on the home lives of kids growing up in households with such stressors etc. I guess that's something we'll have to wait to find out but if it does happen I guess it'd suggest lead pollution and other air pollution isn't as responsible as it could be from looking at the statistics, data, etc. Although a it might also mean is there's a new, different pollution out there which has, effected brain growth in similar ways to lead. I mean it makes sense. It's known a serious head injury can drastically change a person from someone who wouldn't ever even raise their hand to anyone in to someone who is willing to kill or at least now gets so angry he loses control and batters someone to death.
It's brilliant we're, society is trying to understand the reasons and understand but honestly it feels like there's so many different factors, reasons or even what from the outside looks like non which creates killers that I think it'll always be a science that helps us catch them after the fact rather than being able to make a decent guess and get such people help.
“Washington state is just too perfect a place…”
Me: 😌
“…for someone to go missing and never be found again.”
Me: 😬😒
I see I’m not the only one up 😬😬😬
Monsters & Sinister uploaded both in the same min. Which one do I watch first? Oh' Jiles thank you
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Ugh they both seemed like such sweet people especially Jay. He selected such auch a scenic route for them. I don't get why killers don't go for other murderers or child molesters etc. but I'm glad old cases are being solved. Obv there will be cases which might be never solved but solving a case offers a little bit of "relief" for their loved ones at least. I couldn’t live with the uncertainty.
He did seem so sweet
RIP Jaye and Tanya. Glad they got him eventually. Thank you Jiles @This is Monsters✳️
Thankyou jiles love your work from fellow Aussie monster hi to fellow Aussie monsters respect from Australia
Hi Amanda, hope you’re doing great!! 💖🤗🌼
@kathrynbillinghurst188 hi Kathryn hope you are well nice weather here
Love your channel
I needed this 5more hours at overnight and I'm outta stuff to listen to
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Why would anybody believe it was consensual sex.. That's crazy..
yeah, another series!!!
🎉 CONGRATULATIONS on SEASON 14! 🎉
GREAT EPISODE!!! I am excited to see what else you come up with this season!
I can't help but think about all the people who may have been saved if the police listened to their families. They know their loved ones and which behaviors are odd.
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Sinister after this❣️
Insomnia sucks sinister and monsters oh what luck 🤞🏿👄💯
Another brilliant video essay. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again -
due, I’m sure, to your brilliant research, I always learn something about a familiar case, that I have never heard before. Always. Thank you.
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Dennis Nielsen’s grandfathers death is also cited as playing a pivotal role in his messed up development. .... anyway
This is such a sad sad story. It doesn’t matter how many times I hear it, this one always really gets to me.
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Wow, this case has many layers to it, and it was new to me which is always a bonus, but today Jiles you have well outdone yourself, generously! I watched your latest edition of the 'Sinister' series titled, 'The Investor', which I came away from wanting to congratulate you for a brilliant job done and it being a story I was hearing for the first time! What stopped me from posting my comment there was spotting a new episode of 'This is Monsters' had been uploaded in the meantime, just five minutes prior. Maybe it's just me, but I get a kick out of being one of the first few people to view new content so I hit the link! You are to be highly congratulated for the superb content you put out on both channels and the level of consistency indicates how hard you work at it, which is all to the benefit of your followers and viewers. Thank you, well done YOU, and you've found a loyal follower in ME, Jiles! #1 in my book!
Well said….
Thanks as always Jiles.
Thanks for this Jiles i needed some sleep 😂😂
It’s three AM but I got this notification and immediately got back up, love these videos!! ❤
Same here. 3:06 AM and always ready for an episode 😂
She wore a man tuxedo to her prom 😮
Good morning monsters ❤
Oh wow! I have been following this case for a while now. I had no idea it had been solved👍 Thank you so much! Consistently, you do such a good job on your documentaries❤ I'm so glad this guy has to spend some time in jail. Although it might be commendable that he made something good out of himself apparently...some what... it doesn't mean that he gets a pass and should not face justice for killing two people. ❤RIP TANYA AND JAY❤
The murder of my mom has been cold for 40 years this coming February 24th 😢
Oh, that's my birthday. I'll think of your mom on my birthday now.
Send me an email to: thisismonsters@gmail.com and maybe we can make a Someone Sinister episode about it.
So sorry to hear that, sending prayers x
@@thisisMONSTERS what a good guy! Ty from your listening public.
I saw this last month how they figured it out and caught the prick.
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺🤗
Do you remember which channel or the title?
Thank you JILES... Got a lot of people counting on you to keep bringing these awesome videos to us.
So sad. Even when parents know their children the law never changes when it comes to timelines. REST IN PEACE SWEET ANGELS 🕊️🕊️
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OMG! The stake out picture cracks me up! Cops eating doughnuts lol...thanks for the giggles during such a horrific story.😂( the very dry humor is what keeps me coming back to this channel)
Not that it matters, what was his motive? Did he confess? These poor kids suffering is heartbreaking! The families! 😔💔😢
He has not confessed. "The level of violence in this is something that I can't even comprehend, I've gone all my life as a very passive person, never raising my hand towards anyone. I rarely even get angry."-Talbott
But his whole family said he was a very violent child, teenager and adult.
He assaulted his sister, this was not an isolated incident…
It was purely sexual gratification..he was a sexual predator.
I need you to do my VM greeting message!
"Tool in their toolbox", or "weapon in their arsenal" You metaphor mixer, you! :) lol
Sorry. I’m not the sharpest bulb in the tree.
@@thisisMONSTERSyou're the most entertaining one, though! We appreciate you, truly.
I’m a 40 yr old still trying to figure things out
I'm 73 and I really believe we never do...😁😁😁 that's life.....that's what people say🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
@@user-jd3vi2pg1g you cared enough to comment lol 😂
You are by no means alone!!
I think "Stalkers" would make a great season.
Yessss deffo
Yessss🎉
Im still mesmerized how the technology has progressed thru the years, astonishing❤😊
Thank you once again. Love your channels. Always well researched and presented.
Genetic genealogy is the newest tool in identifying victims and perpetrators of crime. Thanks to the scientists and to the people using the sites. This is such a game changer
Thank you Jiles! You tell the stories like no one else..
Imagine being a lawer that has to defend rapists.
Not that there aren't MONSTERS everywhere, but it seems that the Pacific Northwest has so many, too many, of them!
Rest in Forever Peace Paradise, Jay and Tanya. I'm sorry that their loved ones had to miss the two, and wait so very long for answers and justice.
Lot of wilderness and a lot of new faces over there in the 60s to 80s. Very easy to get away with back then
All these cases you have updated have been unsolved mysteries throughout my lifetime. Thank you for the updates. Good to hear the truth. Any updates on Native American women disappearing???
Once again, you told the story very well. Sad story, but I enjoy the details you provide, and I love your channel.
How did the police know that they weren't the victims of a crime unless they went and looked? Too lazy to get off their asses.
Good afternoon
Morning
Yes, it was morning here in the UK 😅
Jiles is an excellent presenter of difficult cases. Well done again.Rob
This is....exciting.
This was good! I thoroughly enjoyed this! Looking forward to this season!
My heart goes out to the families of these two young people and to them for what myst have been ,pure terror ,Im so very very sorry for what happen to them .Its a scary thought isnt it ,that U can not live in a place and travel there maybe one time every and meet a monster like this horrible evil man ,Im so very very sorry for them and Im so glad this creep was finally brought to justice .Dont U wonder if he had other victims that they never even thought werr victims r that have never bern found ,Ive rarely heard of a case whete a killer does something this horroble only once unless they were caught at r around the time of the crine .
Jiles is the only person online I watch that I HOPE has long videos. You’re a legend, sir.
I've heard this story before but your deep dive into Jay and Tonia's story and then how they found the POS that did it is simply fascinating. It shows that when technology is used for good, it's amazing what can happen. Thank you for all you do, Giles.
So are members of a jury meant to have no live negative life experiences?
💘 I love your VOICE & CHANNEL ! Thank ~ YOU! 💘
❤from Gun barrel city Texas
First Heard About this Case on Unsolved Mysteries..
Great Research and Presentation Has Per Usual..
Unfortunately ' Monsters ' Will Always Be, Thank Heavens Tools 2 Catch Them Get Better And Better .
All da Best Folks..
Kuvunja moyo Pumzika Kwa Amani..
This case triggers one of my worst fears, of someone being grabbed by someone bad during a trip. I always think of this when I say goodbye to anyone.
I'm so excited for this season! Long time fan of the channel. Keep up the good work.
Some of the best true crime content around.
Many thanks 🙏🇬🇧❤️
One can never be unsatisfied with any of Jiles videos. I already knew about this case from others sources but this one didn't leave me feeling too dreadful. Felt more lighter, more informative than for schock value. It gives the victims more respect. Thank you