I once attended a small car show in Colton California where an old guy showed up with his daily driver Ford Model T. The folding top was in shreds. It was crusted in dust. But it was driven to the show and driven home again. I was very impressed with that car. One could suspect that the owner was trying for that effect, but if you saw him you wouldn't think that.
Thanks for sharing that story, I love that! Wonder if that car had been in his family for a long time? When I took my Porsche 356 to The Quail I left it in "as found" condition after it had been stored for 23 years...I don't think people really knew what to make of it since it was the only dirty car there.
I love both kinds, I don't think I could pick one category over another, but just depends on the specific car & in this case, I do think they picked the best in show!
If a preserved car is in that kind of condition, is a significant then it deserves to be best in show, absolutely. We seem to have lost the idea that this is about cars, not a flexing of wealth in the restoration process.
Imagine buying Jimmy Hendix or Stevie Ray Vaughn's guitar and then stripping it and refinishing it. The value would be destroyed. It's about time the car world woke up to preservation.
Comes down to how you feel about cars. One side votes for perfect in every way, as new, no grass on the tires or driving. Call it art. The other side votes for driving and using the car for it's intended purpose. Call it art.
TBH I like both. I even like cars that have been modded but remain faithful to what they are. My '72 TR6 for instance has the original motor not a Ford V8 as many people will do, but the original straight 6 with hot cam, Weber carbs, headers, etc... now if you put a Chevy 350 in a Jaguar, you've destroyed it IMHO
The late Alan Clarke MP and well known aristocrat & car collector, long held the view that cars should have patina & I have long agreed with him on this. The practical aspect of having a pristine car cannot be underestimated - if it’s raining you likely won’t drive a perfect resto car irrespective of the cars value & the constant worry about chipping the paintwork etc largely all disappears with an unrestored car. I saw this car at Goodwood & it was very definitely patinated!
I come from the motorcycle side, but the thought is the same. An original, unrestored machine wears time and its experience on its patinaed skin. I lose all interest when restoration becomes some sort of financial flex and a gotcha game. No vintage motorcycle was ever an adventure in chrome and enamel. I want to see the car or motorcycle as it is, and be able to experience all the roads it has been down, and the entirety of its 'lifetime'.
Unfortunately, history is lost in nearly every restoration - there really are things made with hardware that is totally unique to the manufacturer and argue all you want but that is not how the restoration comes out - there is a ton of close. That said, most things are relegated to “used” and not capable of a pebble beach field. That said again, I have seen some stunning unrestored cars be restored to get onto the field at pebble beach. Anyway, a mix of whatever is always a good thing.
I once attended a small car show in Colton California where an old guy showed up with his daily driver Ford Model T. The folding top was in shreds. It was crusted in dust. But it was driven to the show and driven home again. I was very impressed with that car. One could suspect that the owner was trying for that effect, but if you saw him you wouldn't think that.
Thanks for sharing that story, I love that! Wonder if that car had been in his family for a long time? When I took my Porsche 356 to The Quail I left it in "as found" condition after it had been stored for 23 years...I don't think people really knew what to make of it since it was the only dirty car there.
cars are only original once. I love that a survivor won. they are far more rare than over restored trailer queens
I love both kinds, I don't think I could pick one category over another, but just depends on the specific car & in this case, I do think they picked the best in show!
If a preserved car is in that kind of condition, is a significant then it deserves to be best in show, absolutely. We seem to have lost the idea that this is about cars, not a flexing of wealth in the restoration process.
A sign of the future
Let's hope so! I think it was a turning point for sure.
Simple Both. To the owner and winner CHEERS!
Imagine buying Jimmy Hendix or Stevie Ray Vaughn's guitar and then stripping it and refinishing it. The value would be destroyed. It's about time the car world woke up to preservation.
@@yogimarkmac that's a great analogy! 🙏
Comes down to how you feel about cars. One side votes for perfect in every way, as new, no grass on the tires or driving. Call it art. The other side votes for driving and using the car for it's intended purpose. Call it art.
TBH I like both. I even like cars that have been modded but remain faithful to what they are. My '72 TR6 for instance has the original motor not a Ford V8 as many people will do, but the original straight 6 with hot cam, Weber carbs, headers, etc... now if you put a Chevy 350 in a Jaguar, you've destroyed it IMHO
Definitely strong merits to both!
Notebook AI to have a discussion. LOL. I am a huge fan of this car and original and unrestored cars like it though!
Ha you figured it out!!!! winner winner!
The late Alan Clarke MP and well known aristocrat & car collector, long held the view that cars should have patina & I have long agreed with him on this. The practical aspect of having a pristine car cannot be underestimated - if it’s raining you likely won’t drive a perfect resto car irrespective of the cars value & the constant worry about chipping the paintwork etc largely all disappears with an unrestored car. I saw this car at Goodwood & it was very definitely patinated!
I come from the motorcycle side, but the thought is the same. An original, unrestored machine wears time and its experience on its patinaed skin. I lose all interest when restoration becomes some sort of financial flex and a gotcha game. No vintage motorcycle was ever an adventure in chrome and enamel. I want to see the car or motorcycle as it is, and be able to experience all the roads it has been down, and the entirety of its 'lifetime'.
All the wear tells a story! Nobody wants their story erased from history.
wabi sabi
Yes indeed - the beauty of imperfection. That is a great phrase for this.
Unfortunately, history is lost in nearly every restoration - there really are things made with hardware that is totally unique to the manufacturer and argue all you want but that is not how the restoration comes out - there is a ton of close. That said, most things are relegated to “used” and not capable of a pebble beach field. That said again, I have seen some stunning unrestored cars be restored to get onto the field at pebble beach. Anyway, a mix of whatever is always a good thing.
Thanks for sharing this insight!