Changes Coming to the Integrity Toys W Club in 2022: What Does It Mean for Collectors? *DISCUSSION*

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  • @KoujiAlex
    @KoujiAlex 2 роки тому +18

    Personally, I love the fact that there won't be a Convention, but rather a Webinar for everyone. The past 2 Conventions were just a premium Webinar, so the Convention experience has not been the same since 2019. If they continue doing online events, then I think it is much better to include everyone. No need to pay for a ticket if we are not getting the same experience: call it dinning, in person activites, etc.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree! Looking forward on how they handle this special "event" this year. They definitely should not charge a premium for a webinar. I'm hoping for a situation similar to Dolly Days. And when it's safer and feasible, an in-person convention would be nice. -Sang

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToyChat 👍

  • @Bunny-ch2ul
    @Bunny-ch2ul 2 роки тому +5

    I'm *very* happy about this year's convention changes. My biggest issue with a digital convention is that it's so, so financially beneficial to attend and resell anything you can get your hands on at a huge markup. I feel like that's somewhat more reasonable with an in person convention, where you have a lot of expenses associated with attending. With the digital convention, it felt like the people who got "tickets" were basically handed free money. I also don't feel like limiting attendance really makes a lot of sense when there are no spatial constraints. I'd prefer an in person convention, but if they do more digital conventions going forward, they should *always* try to get a few dolls to everyone instead of all of the dolls to a few people.
    Honestly, I feel like a number of the changes to convention and to The W Club are subtly to combat scalpers. With the coupons, there was a huge financial incentive to get a million memberships, because selling one desirable lottery doll at a significant profit basically paid for all of the memberships. Without the coupons, it's much more expensive to buy ten memberships. A lot of collectors are pretty frustrated that with more limited dolls, a huge, huge proportion end up on eBay at wildly inflated prices, and that takes *all* of the fun out of lotteries. I'm not adverse to collectors having ten memberships because they want to get their hands on every doll. I'm absolutely disgusted by people who buy ten memberships so they can make money off of other collectors. Half the fun of collecting anything is the sense of community, and people scalping dolls have trashed that. IT knows that that sense of community keeps a lot of people collecting.
    *(I've said it before and I'll say it again- if you can't afford to collect without ripping off other collectors, stick to $40 Holiday Barbie dolls from Walmart.)*

    • @Bunny-ch2ul
      @Bunny-ch2ul 2 роки тому +2

      And realistically, the issue of scalpers affects everyone, even if they don't buy any dolls on the secondary market, and have fifteen memberships so they win every doll they want. The people at Integrity aren't stupid. They know what people pay for these dolls on the secondary market. They know they have a fair bit of wiggle room in terms of price. If we don't want to see higher prices at retail, people need to stop spending $450 on newly released $150 dolls. I personally won't pay more than $50 over retail on any doll that's not at least five years old. It's one thing to pay a premium for an older doll that's become a holy grail. It's another to do so for something that just came out a month ago. I have pretty deep pockets, but I *will not* subsidize someone else's collection.

  • @rubytuesday9881
    @rubytuesday9881 2 роки тому +15

    What continues to disappoint me is the Convention Dolls and various items. If you aren't able to attend the Convention, you don't get a chance to purchase any of the dolls. Sure, you can sometimes find them on EBAY, but you have to refinance your home first to afford them!! The dolls/sets can go from $450-$650 each! Huge price gauging and it's very disappointing for Club Members who really want the dolls.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, it always been a big debate about convention dolls and their exclusivity. With online conventions, there's even more discussion about how they should be more obtainable since you don't have to travel to receive these dolls. Luckily this year there won't be a traditional convention event so hopefully these dolls are more obtainable. They also need to work on releasing more dolls outside of special events. Despite claiming they were going to focus on that last year, a majority of the dolls ended up as convention dolls. I hope they do a better job addressing that in the future. -Sang

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +3

      When you buy things from The W Club Forum, neither of us are paying fees and you can PayPal via friends and family without paying an extra percent there. Personally I would comprise my principles just to get “Sizzling in Paris in Paris Poppy Parker” think she’s one of the most beautiful Dolls ever, and I wish they’d make something like her because she sells on eBay for like over $1000 that’s like a mortgage payment dude

  • @dollsandfashions2433
    @dollsandfashions2433 2 роки тому +3

    These dolls are gorgeous. I love all their jewelry, bags and shoes!!! Just beautiful!!! 😍😍😍

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Yes! they come with a lot of accessories! We love that! -Sang

  • @vanoscartabaloc
    @vanoscartabaloc 2 роки тому +7

    Im not signing up this year. Too expensive for me. The worldwide shipping adds to that cost. And the dolls are getting simplier and simplier. Im going to either wait for Vaughn to be back in China so that he can check quality or go up and start buying fashion BJDs.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Totally understandable. It's been a rough two years. It's been very expensive to keep up with their releases. Hopefully things will get better but we don't know. -Sang

    • @natalietran4868
      @natalietran4868 2 роки тому

      Yessss, spend your money on Bjd instead 😉😊

  • @Drewski217
    @Drewski217 2 роки тому +6

    I was all for both Agnes and Eden but tax returns are *still* late so I can only get one and I'm leaning towards Eden if only to complete with Lilith
    But yeah, I've definitely noticed the prices creeping up - like the dolls for the Vanessa/Lukas year were only $125 - and this last year was VERY lean on actual dolls produced so really I think it's covid growth and covid complications clogging things a bit since we're still waiting on things that were supposed to be ready. I'm happy to rejoin but still slightly apprehensive of what this coming club year will bring us

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. I'm probably going to always join the club. But this is the first year were I really had to sit down and think about ordering the upgrade dolls. It also dawn on me that we still are waiting on all of the club exclusives from last year. So I have those dolls to pay for. This increase in price at this time is extra hard on the wallet. I'll really have to consider my purchases more carefully. -Sang

  • @bradsherwood194
    @bradsherwood194 2 роки тому +4

    Actually, I don't mind the changes at all. Since I don't purchase multiple memberships and I am selective about the dolls I do purchase, I don't feel that the loss of the coupon is that big a deal. I would not be surprised that the "discount" offered will not be that much. $5 at the most per doll. I love the idea of having the dolls made to order. I don't care about the resell value of the dolls so it does not matter to me how "exclusive the doll is. I only buy what I like, and made to order reduce the stress of buying a doll. I have enough stress already. To me, this is a hobby to help me relax and enjoy life. Lastly, I think it is a good idea not to have a in-person convention this year. Things can still change in terms of Covid so waiting it out this year is wise and a easy choice. Oh, and the upgrade doll this year is truly lackluster. Especially Poppy. But I rarely like any of the upgrade dolls.

    • @Bunny-ch2ul
      @Bunny-ch2ul 2 роки тому +1

      I'm the same way. I don't really care about the exclusivity. Yes, it's fun to have a doll that's one of 300 or whatever, but given the choice between having a bunch of low edition dolls and just being able to buy what I want, I'd rather just be able to buy what I want. The people who want to triple their investment on dolls are ruining the collecting community for everyone. If you don't love a doll, leave it for someone who does. Period.

  • @CHEMP0P
    @CHEMP0P 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Going to join but skipping the upgrade dolls even though I was tempted to get my first Poppy. Hopefully another member doll will interest me enough for it to be worthwhile.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      There Will be a perfect doll for you. Keep the faith JG! They have so many different style references, decades, hairstyles and Skin tones…… As long as they keep Quality up. I keep seeing people talking about quality issues but I have not had any quality issues whatsoever. 🕊

  • @ChrisAndAurora2011
    @ChrisAndAurora2011 2 роки тому +5

    I'm curious what Upgrade Poppy's box will look like. Usually Alain gives us a sneak peak and she's not part of the Palm Springs Collection.
    I wasn't initially mad about the coupon but all the dolls already start at $160 - EVEN the upgrades!

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Poppy boxes are always so nicely designed. Looking forward to seeing Ultra Violet's box. But she isn't scheduled to be ready until the fall so it's a ways off.
      And yeah, if upgrade dolls are increased by $20, that doesn't look good for the rest of the dolls in the future. -Sang

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +2

      Didn’t you love the Palm Springs box from Pink Lemonade Poppy Parker! It’s a perfect representation of mid century colorways

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +2

      @@ToyChat Higher prices are here to stay unfortunately. I’m just glad 🙂 that I joined the W club because aftemarket prices are completely nuts To a little doll collector like me

  • @arianafox365
    @arianafox365 2 роки тому +1

    I joined the W Club this year!! My first time!!! I put a down payment on the Agnes.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому

      Yay! Agnes is gorgeous! Agnes has always been a favorite of mine (and many other collectors!) -Sang

  • @GUSADOLFO251
    @GUSADOLFO251 2 роки тому +5

    I blame you both for falling into their money pit. LOL. Last year was a lot of fun, but I didn't win lotteries or got to attend the convention. The dolls are stunning though, and I find the quality to be very high.Their marketplace "forum" is a very good resource to buy the dolls one was denied by IT and their reps. All I hope is that the dolls remain collectible, with smaller edition sizes. Great video you guys!

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching! We have a lot of love for IT so we want to see them thrive. I think IT dolls will remain collectible and sought after. Their fanbase is growing so they need to find a good balance in producing enough to satisfy their growing fanbase but just enough to drive interest. There's also a limit to what prices they can charge before people are priced out. We look forward to seeing what they do this year! -Sang

    • @ramonablue5598
      @ramonablue5598 2 роки тому

      Sang I doubt they will price out for folks. I would like to think that but folks gobbles these dolls UP!!!

  • @5um0fMe
    @5um0fMe 2 роки тому +5

    I got all 3 dolls, a first for me! I’m not in love with Poppy’s hair style, but I love her outfit! I’m gonna see about cutting her hair to the shorter layer length and if I botch it then I’ll find someone who can reroot her for me.

    • @cbcollects0686
      @cbcollects0686 2 роки тому +2

      That's how I am feeling 100%!

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +3

      Me too! I feel the same way about Poppy’s hairstyle and of course her outfit is en fleek

  • @5um0fMe
    @5um0fMe 2 роки тому +5

    I’m so excited for this year. I’ve been a consistent member since 2018 and it always pays to be a member. I’m bummed about them nixing the $25 coupon. I don’t think this so called special pricing sounds like it makes up for the loss of the coupon value. I think they should have dropped membership price to $40 just to avoid coming off as money-grubbing. But I’m not upset enough to walk away. They know many of us are at the mercy of whatever the club decides to do.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      Truth! I totally agree and yet - By the time the upgrade Dolls came out, I had Doll Fever Which is when it’s been too long between live doll shows, and you’re not used to waiting months and months for new dolls. I’m telling you that Carol Roth is a straight up Marketing genius.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +3

      Um is there a 12-Step Program for #toomanydollstoolittle$ 😂

  • @deniseriley790
    @deniseriley790 2 роки тому +3

    Well, this will be an interesting year to say the least. I hope the price drops some since you don't know what will be coming in for dolls. Love the review

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching/listening? Looking forward to see these "special club" pricing they are talking about. And if it is worth it! -Sang

  • @c.w.2000
    @c.w.2000 2 роки тому +3

    I will be signing up again this year (will be my 2nd year) without any upgrade dolls. I like all three dolls, and at first I thought I would get Poppy. However, upon further reflection, I think her hair and clothing are not versatile enough for me. I can only afford a few Integrity dolls a year, so I have to ask myself each time if there is likely to be a better (to me) one coming along this year.
    I don't really care about the loss of the coupon because it is insignificant compared to the cost of the dolls. The whole membership is about the same price I pay for shipping one doll to Canada, and any single doll is likely to cost in excess of $50 more on eBay vs Club prices.
    What concerns me more is how far behind Integrity seems to be with their production. I don't know what the wait times were like before, but more than 4 months seems unreasonable. I also buy hobby boardgames, some of which are on Kickstarter, but Integrity is not Kickstarter. Yes, they only take a deposit, but you are also tying up your doll budget.
    I doubt anything is going to get better with the wait times or the quality control issues this year. There are many global uncertainties at present, and none of them point towards cheaper, better products in any area, let alone dolls. So, I might end up just mainly watching from the sidelines this year. However, the membership has some entertainment value to me, even if I don't buy anything.

  • @Mego677
    @Mego677 2 роки тому

    First year joining WCLUB! I have been a collector for some time but I was never a member.

  • @debrachittenden9107
    @debrachittenden9107 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I've been watching your past videos. Anyway, I mean it, thank you so much for this video. I love the recap of the changes.

  • @douglaswild3852
    @douglaswild3852 2 роки тому +2

    I joined again and purchased two memberships as I have for years. I will miss the coupons, but it’s not a deal breaker for me. I am hoping however for more direct from Integrity dolls and less lotteries and direct from dealer dolls. With the growth and popularity of the brand I have the WORST luck trying to buy from dealers!! I try on different days the MINUTE a doll is available and it STILL will miss out! And lotteries are also disappointing a lot of the time too. I did not order any of the membership dolls this year, but I still usually end up finding other exclusive deals and dolls, and that ALWAYS justifies joining the club in the end. It will be interesting to see what kind of “ special pricing” they offer us to justify not having the coupons. Time will tell! 😉 Thanks for your input and thoughts.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      Try Treasure Dolls Austin Austin Texas. She was amazing

    • @douglaswild3852
      @douglaswild3852 2 роки тому

      @@tinaburdo7739 Thanks so much for the suggestion!! 👍🏼

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      @@douglaswild3852 All the best! Oh also one more thing, the W club forum definitely has people listing things that they want taken over Meaning all you pay is the club membership price. Also eBay is gouging us an extra 20% and if you buy and sell on the W Club Forum, It’s better for everyone, buyer and seller meaning No fees. Also it seems to me like people want you to use friends and family for PayPal. Far as I’m concerned anyone who’s interested in these dolls is my friend. Lol

  • @madisworld282
    @madisworld282 2 роки тому +4

    I signed up weeks ago and am in the forum now. They said I'd get emails and other announcements after that but I haven't been getting any emails

    • @KoujiAlex
      @KoujiAlex 2 роки тому +2

      The WClub has not officially started yet. You should get a Welcome email after the deadline passes, with offers beggining to pop about a month or 2 after its start.

  • @phoebedemontefalcon1423
    @phoebedemontefalcon1423 8 місяців тому

    For wclub 2024, I hope to see More Nuface and FR dolls!! I feel like we are not getting enough number of those!!!!!

  • @tamokowang3536
    @tamokowang3536 2 роки тому +2

    i want old rounder sculpt they used until few years ago. new poppys are like completly different dolls than old poppys

  • @stefanieizumizaki2191
    @stefanieizumizaki2191 2 роки тому +1

    Almost didn't get any upgrade dolls, but ultimately ordered Poppy. We will see how this club year unfolds.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah. I didn't sign up until the last minute. Got all three cuz we are reviewing them later but their prices and value are hard to justify right now. We'll see if the rest of the year is any better. -Sang

  • @jenneyblade864
    @jenneyblade864 2 роки тому +4

    Last year, I didn't get the poppy upgrade. This year I got her.I was watching my money then and the poppy didn't appeal to me then. I like all 3 upgrade dolls this year. This year I will have to be super selective because the prices are higher then I expected.

    • @ToyChat
      @ToyChat  2 роки тому +2

      We are probably gotta be more selective this year too. Overall IT did not produce a lot of dolls last year so the offerings this year might be even less. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. But the rise of the prices is hard to swallow. -Sang

    • @jenneyblade864
      @jenneyblade864 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToyChat you are so right, I just looked at my doll budget and im going to have to be very selective this year. Im kinda glad I didn't get to attend the convention. Doll addiction is real. 😄 im just going to watch yalls videos and live thru you two. I will act like I got them too. 😁

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +2

      @@jenneyblade864 For a minute I thought I wrote this post lol lol

  • @real_gigio
    @real_gigio 2 роки тому +1

    Personally I love the idea of an online event open to everyone... We'll see how It will turn out this year. I think it is unfair compare a Virtual Convention (with the limitations in productions due to the actual situation) to "in person" past Conventions.. But changing the name and the dynamics of the virtual event can set it by itself and we will have a different approach to it. The price increase definitely hurts my pocket and the way I collect.. But I can say it is happening in all the other doll lines (as the shipping options) so I am really feeling it. About registration.. The dolls were cute... But with a lot of preorders that are coming, and the price increase.. had to consider a lot of thing before deciding on preorder any.. and for now, I only liked Agnes.. but not the dress...So I ended with no upgrade dolls.. (at least for now)..

  • @borgia1507
    @borgia1507 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video. I just joined the W Club a couple of weeks ago although I have been collecting Integrity dolls from the early 2000s. I will say I was quite suprised by the upgrade dolls. My first reaction was 'no' and I was very disappointed. However, I kept thinking about them and they grew on me so I ended up getting all three dolls because I because I never had a Poppy doll before, and also because this is a chance to purchase these dolls for a "reasonable" price (reasonable compared to exorbitant ebay prices).

  • @arianafox365
    @arianafox365 2 роки тому +1

    3:35 which doll is this? She’s gorgeous.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      Legendary Status Agnes Von Weiss from 2021 Convention. A small amount were also released in a silver variation which is GORGEOUS.

  • @vanessaivonne3863
    @vanessaivonne3863 2 роки тому +2

    where do you get easier those amazing dolls?

    • @c.w.2000
      @c.w.2000 2 роки тому +1

      Toy Chat has other videos explaining more about the W Club from previous years. That’s where I learned a lot last year before I joined. Quite simply, the easiest and overall least expensive way is to join the W Club, which you can only do until this Wednesday, then closed again until next year. When the dolls go on eBay, they generally sell for more than the W Club offerings, although that has changed a bit lately as production numbers have gone up above 1500 for some dolls. Integrity does offer some basic dolls throughout the year to the general public, so you can check the website. These dolls are produced in limited numbers. You’ll have to put more effort into learning about the process and pay more than to buy a mass-market doll like Barbie.

  • @buttercupdabaddieutonium9257
    @buttercupdabaddieutonium9257 2 роки тому +1

    I just signed up and paid for my registration yesterday. The website said I had till five but I was able to sign up at 7. 🤷🏾‍♀️ so what happens if I was able to sign up after the fact?

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +2

      OK that happened to me once, and there was no issue whatsoever. However the next time I tried to buy some thing three hours late I was too late. So in the future don’t wait but I think you’re all good

    • @buttercupdabaddieutonium9257
      @buttercupdabaddieutonium9257 2 роки тому +1

      @@tinaburdo7739 thanks I just got my welcome letter a couple days ago

  • @Ennaidme
    @Ennaidme 2 роки тому +1

    I bought my first integrity doll authorised dealer here Europe for 200 euro with shipping. Unfortunately her whiter dress the collar went turn yellow and the stone in the clothes is already falling off. I was disappointed and try to reach them I just purchased last feb11 I was messaging even their account in Instagram no replies.

    • @tinaburdo7739
      @tinaburdo7739 2 роки тому +1

      Have You emailed the liaisons. They will help you.

  • @hoa7254
    @hoa7254 2 роки тому

    M outta IT for exact these reasons.
    Also, I'm so tired with the paint applications and the face sculpts. Realistic expression and atonomy seems to be beyond IT's skills and, furthermore, their own promises of not too recent communications.

  • @quitaulla1569
    @quitaulla1569 2 роки тому

  • @nancycoleccion5061
    @nancycoleccion5061 2 роки тому +1

    Ooo que bonitas