GLIMPSE OF HEAVEN? || GERMAN watches Vinland Saga 1x18 - BLIND REACT-ANALYSIS
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This episode really got me thinking. When I heard the priest say that what Ragnar felt for Canute was not love but discrimination, my first thought was “wait...what the hell are you talking about?” I paused the episode here to think a bit, and came to realize what the priest meant by this.
We generally have a very specific idea in mind when we hear the word discrimination. To hear this word used to describe what clearly was an instance of love would naturally invoke a response of confusion or even a degree of offense should one conflate a loving relationship of their own unto that of Canute and Ragnar’s.
The concept of "agape" or unconditional, altruistic love is what the priest is getting at with the occasional scenes throughout the past few episodes where the priest attempts to explain what love is to him. It is perhaps the ultimate form of love; an ideal, but one that is incredibly difficult-or in the priest’s eyes, impossible-for humans to truly embody. The priest gestures to the dead man lying in the snow and says he embodies love. The priest seems to suggests that universal compassion and lack of discrimination may only be achievable in death. That corpse will not discriminate, hate, or commit sin. It will simply exist, and do so indiscriminately.
I think it makes a lot of sense that this is the viewpoint that a priest, especially one in this setting, would have. It seems to me as though Christians believe that man is disposed to sin and knowing this, should strive to act in as pure a manner as much as possible, given our nature to the contrary. And that, only in death can we be free of this sinful disposition. The priest says that death perfects a man, and this does not feel like an out-of-place belief for a Christian to have, especially given Jesus’ sacrifice for the sins of man.
I don’t quite agree with the priest on this view. While understandable, I personally think this is somewhat of a defeatist view that puts too much focus on the afterlife and not on the now, for this existence is the only one we can be certain of. It might distract us from what we can take into our own hands in our shared, observed reality.
Conversely, characters like Thors, Canute, and (another which might be a spoiler) still held or hold on to the dream of finding a way to balance their personal passions and relationships with a broader compassion for all. Protecting something fragile in a harsh world is portrayed as the ultimate challenge, but also what makes one a true warrior. For this reason, I found the scene switching between the priest talking about what (agape) “love” is, and Thorkell asking Thorfinn what his father meant by “a true warrior” to be pretty clever.
When the priest was giving his monologue of what love means (to him), you mentioned that liked what the author was trying to say, but don’t quite agree. I don’t really think this the author was portraying what the priest was saying as his own perspective.
One aspect that I respect about Yukimura’s (mangaka of Vinland Saga) writing style is that different characters will have their own philosophies, ethics, and worldviews that feel genuine given what we know about their own lived experiences. The perspectives presented by characters never seem to feel like the common pretentious injection of a certain message that author wants us to “take away” from their story. Rather, I get the feeling that Yukimura wants to explore certain philosophical topics and encourage the reader/viewer give them some thought for themselves to take away a nuanced perspective for themselves. There hasn’t been too much of this yet, but there is a bit more later on in the story.
Yeah man I wasn't expecting to be hit in the feels the first time I watched this episode but DAMN 😢 the music and the VA for Canute killed that scene.
The first cut was so good! xD
It's interesting because I remember thinking the priest's soliloquy about love was not something I could understand the first time I watched - but every time I watch it again it gets more and more profound to me.
That moment at the end of the episode where Canute throws his cloak aside is the FIRST time you ever see that he has a sword. We see his sword at precisely the moment that he finally knows what it's for. It's incredible.
Ragnarは命の価値に順位をつけました
自然はすべての生物に平等に厳しく、時には豊穣を与えてくれるので愛と呼べますが
そのような愛は人間である限り手に入らないってことですね
5:37 my favorite Japanese word is Tatakae! The phonetics of it are just the BEST!
Yeah, Ute! is also great :D
The priest basically says that true love means that you have no expectations from someone else and you still love everyone the same. No matter if they hate you, if they stole from you or if they are your siblings, parents, boss etc. True love doesn’t discriminate and makes no difference between people.
And Canute rightfully realizes that this is impossible. People will always judge and favour some people over others. So when god is saying that you should love everyone Canute realizes that this can’t ever work out. He is disappointed that he believed all his life in godand his word despite reaching gods „goal“ is impossible. Therefore he decides to create something resembling peace (through politics and therefore also violence) which may come closest to what god wants them to be (because people who live in peace are closer to loving everyone then people who are afraid, right?)
I think what the priest is saying is, while mother is caring for her children, she's not caring for other people's children. God's love has no descrimination, and everyone is loved equally. But human don't understand that unless you are the rarest monority who achieved enlightenment. A simple reference is when you go to a resturant and see a family sitting together talking, eatting and having fun, bear in mind they are not loving and other people but each other. If you are an observer who sits alone on another table and sees them talking and smiling what would you think? You would feel kind of sad right? That's descrimination. But of course, this is how modern society works. Perhaps in their time or tribal time it's easier for people to get together and befriend everyone. Nowdays, if you are married and have a family and you show no care to them and go care about strangers you probably won't be married for too long. Human are just humans and Canute realizes this is what human is and he stops living in a daydreaming state and be like I'm gonna act now because prayers don't work in this brutal place.
In a show full of liars and schemers, Thorkell is the only man who is 100% entirely honest with himself and everyone else. I think thats why its so easy to like him, despite him doing some not super nice stuff.
I'm not sure he would go out his way to kill Thorfinn, but i mean, if Thorfinn got hit by an axe blade his brown bread.
The idea with love is that it should be universal. What we typically define as love is selective. We love our children, our significant others, our friends. But we love some of them more then others. And we care less for strangers. True love is universal. Its much the same the "No-one has any enemies." If everyone loved everyone and everything, then there would be true peace.
Its absolutely a utopian ideal though, and therefore hopelessly unpragmatic.
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I think preference is a better way to put it than discrimination
Agreed, discrimination has a weirdly dark inference. :D
@@storieswithstylethats only because of the times we are in though, cause the truly most basic definition of discrimination is treating some people different than others. The word does understandably cause some people to have a knee-jerk reaction because of the times we live in and what we think of when we think of discrimination.
The priest in this show is very strange to me. He has a weird mix of Christian and Buddhist beliefs. It seems odd that someone could become a priest and not understand the idea of Christ's sacrifice. It's like he has never heard John 3:16. Maybe the priest was written this way to make the ideas more accessible to a Japanese audience? Im not sure. Its just strange to me. 🤷♂️
I think he might not have read it all, seems like a he is looking for answers and drinks because he did not find any. :D
Well this is all 1000 years ago so it's likely that he just because a priest very easily
i tend to think the idea here is that beliefs like that generally do not survive extended contact with the real world outside the clergy. the beliefs Willibald has now, while complicated and in some ways deeply unhinged, are the product of a mind that, when exposed to more nuanced and honest ideas, as well as a whole lot of trauma, horror, and human violence, didn't dismiss them out of hand. his philosophy isn't necessarily a good thing, but it's largely his own and not just quotes from a book that roughly 40 other men wrote a thousand years before he was born
How does he not understand it?
Beliefs were very sporadic in the old days, most regions had their local religions blend with Christianity. And everyone has their own personal feelings as well
more plis :p