People are bashing Curley but IMO the mother is the real POS. Abandoning Arthur but taking the girls, pretending he never existed and basically demanding that Peggy disown him too. At least Curly showed remorse for giving up Arthur. On a different note, I think this was the only time I ever saw Stack actually smile
They are both shitty parents that's not an opinion that's facts there's no excuses for abandoning your child excuses excuses excuses you bring a child into this world you fucking raise that child end of story don't be a dead beat piece of trash take excellent care of your children
Whatever happened to her sister? Did I miss something? I don't remember hearing them mentioning anything about her after Peggy sent into foster care. Wonder why Peggy never tried to reunite with her?
Our government has a multitude of sins it is in no hurry to admit to. The infuriating thing is the politicians who committed such terrible crimes will likely die long before their sins are exposed, assuming they will ever be exposed. Many will likely be celebrated before the truth about them comes out, just look at Woodrow Wilson, for the longest time he was considered one our finest presidents, it took decades before the truth about him came out I love my country…….. I’m ashamed of my government
I can’t understand a mother leaving one child behind and taking the girls. Curly wanted his son. He was encouraged to do “the right thing” for him and regretted it until his death. So sad. Tragic that it remains unsolved.
I immediately recognized that behavior and the stupid, stubborn years-long lying as typical abusive mom antics. They often choose only one child to torment, often the youngest, and tell dumb lies to their children well into adulthood. Her behavior sadly makes perfect sense to me.
Becky and Judi's story was great they seemed so happy together in their reunion, that's real love and friendship baby yes sir!! , those two had me smiling 😊👍
how could your own mother just leave you and keep your sisters, so heartbreaking, then your father leaves you as well. I know the father was doing it for the right reasons but as boy he wouldn't understand.
Several viewers reported seeing DeCloud's wife in San Angelo, Texas. The cult had apparently settled in a farmhouse in the area. When state and local agents arrived at the home, DeCloud kicked out the screen of the upper bedroom and tried to flee. However, he was quickly arrested after a brief struggle. He was extradited to Liberty, Missouri, to stand trial on for criminal counts, including forcible rape and sodomy. Since the arrest, several other members of the cult have come forward, corroborating Julie's statements and alleging further abuse. In September of 1994, Nelson DeCloud was convicted on all four criminal counts. The presiding judge at the trial followed the jury's recommendation, and subsequently sentenced DeCloud to 220 years in prison. DeCloud refused to appeal his case. He later died from natural causes on April 4, 2014 in his prison cell.
The story of Arthur and Curly is so interesting yet painful to me. As a family researcher I want to dive right in and research it but Im sure the family already has. I am sure their have been updates and if anyone knows of any please post on it and thanks.
The story of Arthur and Curly is a story of a douche-bag who abandoned his only son to an uncertain fate in the hands of strangers so that he could paint his face and travel with his friends unburdened by a the oblibligations of a father. The story of a cunt.
Ron Froehlich sounds like someone had a rocky relationship with their father. Abused, neglected, given up for adoption? You were probably molested and abused by your dad and whenever you come across stories like Curly’s, you automatically have a hatred toward fathers that had to give up their kid since it strikes a nerve and brings up traumas from your past. You come across as someone that didn’t have a positive or healthy relationship with your father.
Poor innocent sweet little Arthur rejected by both his parents, they didn’t deserve him. I hope the people that adopted him showered him with love as his own parents just discarded him. The fact they couldn’t find him was perhaps their karma to never find out whatever happened to him. A despicable act by both parents. To be discarded by both parents would have really done some psychological damage, poor poor little child.
At 8:30, it states that was from an unnamed source that claimed that the U.S. Government sealed their records on the crash for seventy years. There may not even be any records being kept sealed until 20 something.
So sad their dad had 2 give up their brother. He loved all his kids n his son 2 give up their brother 4 a better life. I hope they find Arthur their brother. Hope they find their brother n all get reunited.
Dying in prison was too good for DeCloud. It’s not right. Using God to usurp authority over others is disgusting. It cheapens the value of a real relationship with God
Yeah but the people were stupid enough to let him do it. I don't see how you can be that lost to let him rape and molest your child especially the fathers of the daughter's who just say back watched
The decloude story was crazy. Used to love this show when it was on tv. That new lifetime piece of shit is horrible. It was the people like Robert England and Robert Stack that made our childhood so scary, these kids dont know fear lol
Wow the crash happened when I was only 6 yrs old. So sad they lost their only son. May he rest easy n everyone that lost their lives may they all rest easy.🙏
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THESE FOLKS EXPECTED FROM THE MILITARY GOING INTO IT. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW NAIVE EVERYONE WAS, FROM THE SOLDIERS TO THE FAMILIES, BUT IT KEEPS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER. WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK? DO THEY SERIOUSLY THINK THE MILITARY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT PEOPLE THEY USE AS EXPENDABLE INCOME
As far as the curly story goes i see ppl are real quick to judge his situation. You have no idea what his circumstances were. You don't know if back in that time that was the only kind of work he could find. At least he did what he thought would be best for his son not like the pos mother who just completely disowned him that's the person you all should judge
Arthur's story is so sad and ill never understand curlys decesion he could of made a better effort to connect that child with his own family and siblings that's just my opinion but I'm not aware of curlys understanding / reasoning or mindset at the time but either way it was and has been hard for the family and that's the hurting and heartbreaking part about it even for me.😞
Yeah mannnnnn I don’t get it TBH. Homie gave up his son.... to be a CLOWN? He’s a real/true clown for that. I’ll be a garbage man / janitor in a small town to ensure I keep my kids. Fuck “a career” if I can’t see my Kids
@@A_Muzik It was a different time, the mother ignoring the boys existence was asshole behaviour but her taking the girls and not the boy was probably because of the old assumption that boys need a father more. I'm not sure the mother knew about the son being given away or the clown career since even Curley didn't know where they were. Both are at fault but the mother at least provided a stable home for the girls while the father left the boy instead of getting another job.
According to public records Julie never married Tim Santi. It looks like she married two other men. Now she is going by her maiden name. Hopefully she was not swallowed up by the cult again. Her last address is 611 Prospect, Kansas City, Missouri. That address looks like a commercial property, which seems suspicious.
I'll neva understand y a mother would only take 2 outta her 3 kids n only just her girls. No matter what the reason she should have taken her brother w her sisters the mom I mean.
On Guam thier was A Stealth crash before take off Anderson Air force Base moisture was also to blame but it could be satellite spies in control that possibly made the Stealth crash but anything is possible
24:00 He was a little boy, given to priests in a Catholic church. I think we know what happened. If the church didn't reach out or answer her back, when they knew she was looking even after this show, we have a good idea what likely happened.
You ever think at that time that was the only job he could get? You never know what the circumstances were. But at least he loved him enough to make sure he had a better life not likethe pos mother who completely disowned him
@@jenniferbettis1838 i was not there but one kid isn't so expensive and there was a strong manufacturing sector in the economy here at that time. Curly loved the circus more than his son and that makes me puke
I will never understand how people let these terrible things happen to them and their children in cults. These cults all repeat the same basic things. Like before they joined the cult werent they aware of other cults and know how these things end up? Why would a man let some guy who claims to be chosen by god/god/a prophet/the second coming of jesus sleep with their wife or daughter and a myriad of other awful things? I just can't wrap my head around it. Are they that lacking in critical thinking skills?
thank you !!!the more exposure we have of these Cultic ppl and manipulation of power the better off we are
yeah
that scumbag is no better than david koresh or jim jones or any other cult “leader”
I wish they would bring this show back I literally grew up w this show Robert stack will n always will b the best host may be rest easy.
They have on Netflix. I don't have it, have not been able to watch any episodes yet, though.
@@VintageRose75
Fwiw, imo, there are only a couple of new Netflix episodes worth seeing. 😊
@@mortalclown3812but ain’t nothing like these old episodes with the great Mr Stack RIP 😩
I have always loved these shows* Robert Stack's voice is soothing*
That's awesome to see a last snippet of the show re unite the people they were searching for. Great Episode!
People are bashing Curley but IMO the mother is the real POS. Abandoning Arthur but taking the girls, pretending he never existed and basically demanding that Peggy disown him too. At least Curly showed remorse for giving up Arthur.
On a different note, I think this was the only time I ever saw Stack actually smile
Auron12786 I agree I wonder if he was ever found tho.
Agreed what a piece of shit, hopefully they found each other
Agreed.
and could a single father living the life of a circus clown have raised that child by himself? Doubtful.
They are both shitty parents that's not an opinion that's facts
there's no excuses for abandoning your child excuses excuses excuses you bring a child into this world you fucking raise that child end of story don't be a dead beat piece of trash take excellent care of your children
I love this show thank you for sharing 👍
Peggy is such a sweetheart. I just want to give her a hug!
Meredith Anderson me too! She seemed very selfish and narcissistic mother.
Whatever happened to her sister? Did I miss something? I don't remember hearing them mentioning anything about her after Peggy sent into foster care. Wonder why Peggy never tried to reunite with her?
Whatever happened in '85, still exists today... / : RIP, sirs.
oh it been here forever
Our government has a multitude of sins it is in no hurry to admit to. The infuriating thing is the politicians who committed such terrible crimes will likely die long before their sins are exposed, assuming they will ever be exposed. Many will likely be celebrated before the truth about them comes out, just look at Woodrow Wilson, for the longest time he was considered one our finest presidents, it took decades before the truth about him came out
I love my country…….. I’m ashamed of my government
I can’t understand a mother leaving one child behind and taking the girls. Curly wanted his son. He was encouraged to do “the right thing” for him and regretted it until his death. So sad. Tragic that it remains unsolved.
That broke my heart when the mom left her son behind some sad mother's out there.
I wonder if her new husband had told her to leave Arthur behind.
I immediately recognized that behavior and the stupid, stubborn years-long lying as typical abusive mom antics.
They often choose only one child to torment, often the youngest, and tell dumb lies to their children well into adulthood.
Her behavior sadly makes perfect sense to me.
Her new hubby liked little girls. 😡
Seeing that little boy being left behind is beyond heartbreaking, so sad
Becky and Judi's story was great they seemed so happy together in their reunion, that's real love and friendship baby yes sir!! , those two had me smiling 😊👍
My favorite story.
how could your own mother just leave you and keep your sisters, so heartbreaking, then your father leaves you as well. I know the father was doing it for the right reasons but as boy he wouldn't understand.
It seems she was a cold blooded hoe.
Becky and Judi...my heart! What an awesome story. Bless these amazing women and David. Those reunions were amazing.
Several viewers reported seeing DeCloud's wife in San Angelo, Texas. The cult had apparently settled in a farmhouse in the area. When state and local agents arrived at the home, DeCloud kicked out the screen of the upper bedroom and tried to flee. However, he was quickly arrested after a brief struggle.
He was extradited to Liberty, Missouri, to stand trial on for criminal counts, including forcible rape and sodomy. Since the arrest, several other members of the cult have come forward, corroborating Julie's statements and alleging further abuse. In September of 1994, Nelson DeCloud was convicted on all four criminal counts. The presiding judge at the trial followed the jury's recommendation, and subsequently sentenced DeCloud to 220 years in prison. DeCloud refused to appeal his case. He later died from natural causes on April 4, 2014 in his prison cell.
too bad that the inmates didn’t get a chance to enact a little ‘prison justice’ on his sorry ass first !!!!
Thank you, for 'the rest of the story'.
The story of Arthur and Curly is so interesting yet painful to me. As a family researcher I want to dive right in and research it but Im sure the family already has. I am sure their have been updates and if anyone knows of any please post on it and thanks.
The story of Arthur and Curly is a story of a douche-bag who abandoned his only son to an uncertain fate in the hands of strangers so that he could paint his face and travel with his friends unburdened by a the oblibligations of a father. The story of a cunt.
Ron Froehlich sounds like someone had a rocky relationship with their father. Abused, neglected, given up for adoption?
You were probably molested and abused by your dad and whenever you come across stories like Curly’s, you automatically have a hatred toward fathers that had to give up their kid since it strikes a nerve and brings up traumas from your past.
You come across as someone that didn’t have a positive or healthy relationship with your father.
The reunion was a good one especially since they were talking to their ex boyfriend from middle school lol then went out to dinner with their husbands
So happy she was able 2 reunite w her father n his side her family
During covid had this series and forensic files on loop for like 2 years straight.
i wanna know if they ever found Arthur :(
Poor innocent sweet little Arthur rejected by both his parents, they didn’t deserve him. I hope the people that adopted him showered him with love as his own parents just discarded him. The fact they couldn’t find him was perhaps their karma to never find out whatever happened to him. A despicable act by both parents. To be discarded by both parents would have really done some psychological damage, poor poor little child.
This is a good episode even though sad n happy
Yes our government always tries to convince otherwise
Covering up some shit
So sad how people just gave their kids away instead of taking care of them.
I wish they would bring the show back
That's a damn shame to make that little girl sit out in that field for 8-hours where was her mother when this was going on in the DeCloud family.
I remember this program , very good.
As a maritimer, I'm impressed with how well Robert stack properly pronounces Newfoundland.
The first story, the records are sealed for 70 years, we are half way there. That crash happened in 1985, it's almost 2020.
Damn!... I'm too old to hear that government liexplaination
Ok so those damn Roswell alien files from New Mexico are definitely able to unsealed now!
At 8:30, it states that was from an unnamed source that claimed that the U.S. Government sealed their records on the crash for seventy years. There may not even be any records being kept sealed until 20 something.
Did the government release all of the records from the JFK assassination?
I blame isis
It’s nice to see justice served and a happy ending.
Was gonna watch it but NOPE!! It’s late af and I’m here by myself 👀
It's way too creepy to watch when you're alone at night.. I hear you!
Lmao. When I was younger, there were only 2 shows that scared me. Unsolved Mysteries....and Are You Afraid Of the Dark 😱. lol
Flip And Barter it was dark af and I wasn’t watching it but I’m bout to try it now it’s 3 in the evening 💯😘🤣
So sad their dad had 2 give up their brother. He loved all his kids n his son 2 give up their brother 4 a better life. I hope they find Arthur their brother. Hope they find their brother n all get reunited.
hahahahah the reunion of the 2 friends and David is the sweetest thing ever !!!
awesome program cases line up is good
He should of left the circus and kept the boy with him
Donna Marshall *should have, FFS
Robert Gardea “For Fuck’s sake!”
I seen every show of this before growing up
You gotta be a pretty crummy person to withhold your sons existence from your daughter
I used to love this show
Dying in prison was too good for DeCloud. It’s not right. Using God to usurp authority over others is disgusting. It cheapens the value of a real relationship with God
Yeah but the people were stupid enough to let him do it. I don't see how you can be that lost to let him rape and molest your child especially the fathers of the daughter's who just say back watched
Lady T people are weak and easily controlled.
@@watermelon520b yes they are unfortunately
Who says when he died he inherited the kingdom? There is a hell u know? Eternal damnation
Robert Gardea oh there is oh ye of little faith. I wouldn’t test that theory if u were u
Wow the repair man Tim really saved her! Even though it was a ‘love’ thing, he cared for her
The song give me the chills
The decloude story was crazy. Used to love this show when it was on tv. That new lifetime piece of shit is horrible. It was the people like Robert England and Robert Stack that made our childhood so scary, these kids dont know fear lol
I would think leaving ur son w a Catholic priest would be worse than living at the circus...maybe that's just me
Angel Gonzalez absolutely.
I thought the same exact thing. It's a circus not the projects
Lmfaoooo #organizedreligion
The media works hard to make it look that way. There are many more good solid priests than there are bad.
Yes really
I like how sometimes I the real person plays themselves in the reenactment and sometimes it’s an actor.
The dad from donnie darko is in the decloud story
Wow the crash happened when I was only 6 yrs old. So sad they lost their only son. May he rest easy n everyone that lost their lives may they all rest easy.🙏
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THESE FOLKS EXPECTED FROM THE MILITARY GOING INTO IT. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW NAIVE EVERYONE WAS, FROM THE SOLDIERS TO THE FAMILIES, BUT IT KEEPS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER. WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK? DO THEY SERIOUSLY THINK THE MILITARY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT PEOPLE THEY USE AS EXPENDABLE INCOME
this is my life. sitting here alone on Christmas watching UM. sad huh?
Better than being dead or in prison
Well I am with ya a few days later alone lol
It's not sad, what would you rather do?
ur not alone
So sad that her brother Arthur left behind. She found photo of Arthur, her beloved brother.
They microphone 🎙 good af because everybody on here sounds creepy af!!🤷🏿♂️👀
RIP all those solders 😢.
I’m trying to understand why a man would give up his son for circus 🤡 life🤦🏾♀️
right? get a job dude.
I said to say but that was funny stuff when they went to Tim brother Ted house I lost it man
LOL 7:42 , of course they would make the actors sound "canadian"
So you go on the first date and she jumps in your truck and yells Drive!!! Drive!!!
The Gander incident is a smaller scale 911
My Pops same year was a replacement for one of those soilders in f Campbell.1985
Lithium batteries in a weapon. Possibly chemical.
As far as the curly story goes i see ppl are real quick to judge his situation. You have no idea what his circumstances were. You don't know if back in that time that was the only kind of work he could find. At least he did what he thought would be best for his son not like the pos mother who just completely disowned him that's the person you all should judge
They are both shitty parents.
You can judge both.
What a horrible mother. 😩
In the aircraft crash ..if the government was hiding stuff ...why did they provide fragments of the downed aircraft to the doctor ? ....
Arthur's story is so sad and ill never understand curlys decesion he could of made a better effort to connect that child with his own family and siblings that's just my opinion but I'm not aware of curlys understanding / reasoning or mindset at the time but either way it was and has been hard for the family and that's the hurting and heartbreaking part about it even for me.😞
Yeah mannnnnn I don’t get it TBH. Homie gave up his son.... to be a CLOWN? He’s a real/true clown for that. I’ll be a garbage man / janitor in a small town to ensure I keep my kids. Fuck “a career” if I can’t see my
Kids
I wondered why he wouldn't give his son to a relative instead of a random priest
You’re not going to question the mother? She flat out abandoned him and pretended he never existed.
@@A_Muzik It was a different time, the mother ignoring the boys existence was asshole behaviour but her taking the girls and not the boy was probably because of the old assumption that boys need a father more. I'm not sure the mother knew about the son being given away or the clown career since even Curley didn't know where they were.
Both are at fault but the mother at least provided a stable home for the girls while the father left the boy instead of getting another job.
According to public records Julie never married Tim Santi. It looks like she married two other men. Now she is going by her maiden name. Hopefully she was not swallowed up by the cult again. Her last address is 611 Prospect, Kansas City, Missouri. That address looks like a commercial property, which seems suspicious.
This poor girl who was raised in a crazy compound cult where was her parents or mom any relative
How dare someone believe in a power higher than that of the government!
Everyone is eager to blame ionizing radiation when chemical exposure is the likely culprit.
Did Unsolved Mysteries ever do an episode on the unsolved mystery of where Waldo is at?
I'll neva understand y a mother would only take 2 outta her 3 kids n only just her girls. No matter what the reason she should have taken her brother w her sisters the mom I mean.
Or you know the dad could have left the circus? And raised his son. Seems like an easy choice.
How about just leave the circus?????
Governments reason is always you didn't see anything, as your looking at it 😡🔥 Decloud died in prison in 2014
Ok, when they speak Russian and are learning US english, the word memories sounds like mammories when they say it.
God doesn't require you to go to a religious compound lol
You left out the US Coast Guard!
Prayer U.
35:13 Thank god she left
On Guam thier was A Stealth crash before take off Anderson Air force Base moisture was also to blame but it could be satellite spies in control that possibly made the Stealth crash but anything is possible
Dr Phillips, toxology, carbon monoxide, detonation.
The government would never do anything crooked 😂
24:00 He was a little boy, given to priests in a Catholic church. I think we know what happened. If the church didn't reach out or answer her back, when they knew she was looking even after this show, we have a good idea what likely happened.
Cache.. it's a weird word
Was this story updated?????
This old man has a GOD he must meet and he will ATONE.
wow😦 they really cut all that lady's hair off just for a re-enactment
If this ever gets solved with aruthor that be great
The people who incite a military cover up are more often then not people who have never served
Curly was a POS, I would drop the circus & got a normal job before giving my boy away.
No shit. Makes me want to puke
You ever think at that time that was the only job he could get? You never know what the circumstances were. But at least he loved him enough to make sure he had a better life not likethe pos mother who completely disowned him
@@jenniferbettis1838 that was not the only employment Curly could find
@@ronfroehlich4697 oh ok so you were there forgive me smh
@@jenniferbettis1838 i was not there but one kid isn't so expensive and there was a strong manufacturing sector in the economy here at that time. Curly loved the circus more than his son and that makes me puke
How could you leave your son and split! WOW
i hate clowns!
I don’t believe those were the authentic aircraft pieces that were sent to the parents. Probably just junk.
21:40
Sad part
Government being sneaky…..
Could it be possible a laser from satellite shot plane down?
10:44 into show and I'm switching shows
A canadian version A?
I will never understand how people let these terrible things happen to them and their children in cults. These cults all repeat the same basic things. Like before they joined the cult werent they aware of other cults and know how these things end up? Why would a man let some guy who claims to be chosen by god/god/a prophet/the second coming of jesus sleep with their wife or daughter and a myriad of other awful things? I just can't wrap my head around it. Are they that lacking in critical thinking skills?
Juile Copper ( sorry if spelled her name) she is incredibly women. And god bless Tim.
Oh boy 😠😡😡😡😠 ladies be careful who you have around upur daughters
YES 🔥 you never know
Sub in español please
Un-frickin'-believable how selfish Curly was. He should have given up his career, found other work and been there for Arthur.
Elite soldiers Arrow Air
Tragedy struck explosion 💥 sabotage or military equipment
Nelson the clown
29:00 Cults did this then and do this now. Particularly Christian cults sonetimes big or small.
38:00 Law enforcement not finding them or immediately stopping them is because they are run by cults.
Don t be fool by fake prophet's they are con artist
Joel Osteen is the biggest one of them all !!!!