About 10 years ago I was working with a guy who kept getting bouts of gout. He'd have to take time off and I'd be picking up the load. One time after he had been off for 2 weeks he was back in the office and he was legit apologizing to me and thanked me for backing him up. We began chatting and he was saying that he wished he knew what was causing it as he was doing exactly what the doctor was telling him to do and he had cut out all the stuff that caused gout. So I asked hi if he had cut out fructose and he looked at me like I was crazy. I showed him a video I had watched a few months earlier about what fructose does in the body and it's link to uric acid production. He watched it on lunch and came back to me asking a whole bunch of questions. I told him that there was no harm in at least trying and seeing what happened but if he was happy to always be in pain then don't do anything and just live like that. So I basically told him no fruit and NO food with high fructose corn syrup and that he will HAVE to read labels. He did it and I was on vacation the following week so it was about 2 weeks from when he started to when I saw him next. The first thing he did was give me a hug and tell me that for the first time in years he had spent 2 full days in ZERO pain. None. He told me it had been hard but he felt so much better that it was worth it to him. Of course his wife and doctor were going on and on about how unhealthy it was to not eat fruit but he told them that he'd rather die young pain free than live a long life in agony. He kept it up for years until he unfortunately died of cancer. but his gout was cured at least.
@@Lion-om2lu Yep...just look at how swollen those cows are and they are literally made of meat. If it matters he had oral cancer from using chewing tobacco so meat had NOTHING to do with it. But nice try.
While shopping the other day I overheard a granny talking to the child who wanted to eat strawberries, but the granny told her she needs to sugar them first or they won't taste like strawberries... We are killing ourselves...
Sadly, our elders are not always right. That said I think we should still respect and listen to our elders as they are more often right than wrong. Depends on the subject and the elder I think.
There are pesticides inside the fruits and cannot be washed out. The fruit dealers add it to the water for the fruit tree. And if the maximum of amount of pesticide A is reached, they will add B. Furthermore I heard from a colleague that many of them overdose, and go above the officially allowed amounts. For example by spraying in the evening.
There is a book, Drop Acid, by a doctor David Perlmutter about uric acid and gout. Humans lost the gene to make urokinase about 2 million years ago. Urokinase is the enzyme that breaks down uric acid in most other animals. So we easily increase our uric acid. Uric acid is used in the liver to metabolize fructose and now ethanol. He explains there is a theory that losing this gene allowed humans to better over-eat fruit before the winter for extra calories and provided an advantage versus humans with the gene. It kinda makes sense, but it's just a theory.
You can try and theorise all these things , but the best way is too test it out for yourself , for atleast a few month. Adding fruit to my carnivore diet was a life safer. Strict Carnivore for roughly 10 years ( no organs just fat and meat/marrow). Gave me lots of hormonal issues , ovarian cyst , PCOS , the worst symptom was hairloss, since that was the only visible symptom . but I added fruit and peanuts / yogurt and everything balanced out again hormonally, ..my ovarian cycst disappeared and I feel like I can live again. Carnivore are great for short stints , but come to a 1.5 year mark and you will start feeling BAAAD! Don't push it , quite at that stage and reevaluate !
last time i recognize that when i was carnivore and i sit almost entire day i wasn't stiff. now when i'm eating sugar after hours sitting i'm stiff and even fell small pain in my legs when i stand up from chair. someone notice the same?
Same. In fact, the tissue in my knee tore for no reason except that, as the doctor informed me, my joint tissue was all broken down and my joints were "bone on bone". That was 6 years ago. In 2022, I had excruciating joint pain in my rear end (sacroilliac) that was so bad that even the thought of moving would set off muscle spasms that were more painful than childbirth. I went keto April 2024. Joint pain GONE. Except a tiny bit in my hand if I am sitting a long time and holding my phone. Or in my feet when I stand up in the morning after eating fruit at bedtime.
Literally the entire point of carnivore/keto is to be in ketosis (which gives the constant energy, weight loss and almost all other benefits), but when you eat sugary fruit you are thrown out of ketosis and you turn back into a cаrb junkie that just eats more meat than most other people, but who still runs on glucose nonetheless.
But long term ketosis leads to hypothyroidism and other hormonal un balance due to stress hormones involved. Same happened to Saladino, he also over trains on top of all this. You can be animal based, eat lots of meat(not fully cooked), fat, and some hydrating fruits. Salt, and fully cooked meat turns you into sugar addict, not raw meat and fruits. It takes time, but you will see.
@@desmomotodesmomoto2033 you’re right. People are so trapped and brain washed by the idea that fruits are bad for you. What tool bags. Our body has something called “insulin” and “blood glucose level”. Doesn’t it make sense it has been designed to help the body utilise glucose molecules for many functions in the body? People only eating meat will ultra crave carbs and they will become sugar junkies because they’ll relapse majorly.
if you're on keto diet, as long you eat animal saturated fat you'll be fine. 50-60 % fat of your calories is enough (it has to be raw of or not too cooked) because your brain will thrive on glucose produced from fats through neoglucogenesis
That is false. The entire point of carnivore/keto is for the body to oxidize the appropriate source of fuel, which are fatty acids from animal sources. It is indicated to eat one meal a day and in that one sitting eat enough animal protein to get a bump in insulin that signals to the kidneys to hold on to electrolytes, that's what these Saladidon'tknows usually don't do hence why they get cramps / have to supplement with electrolytes / go back to eating carbs.
The word 'Doctor'' is derived from the Latin word “docere,” which means “to teach.”. You are teaching us about health. You are a literal Doctor.. Dr. Max.
Carbohydrates (insulin) not only block satiety (leptin), but also fat metabolism, so that 100% of the fat is stored while you are in glucose metabolism. 😉
@ I am not a native English speaker, but I get your point. The thing is that satiety also is not leptin. Satiety is a feeling and leptin is a hormone. That are 2 different terms which have a tight conjunction, but they are not the same.
Thanks Max for providing so much information in this video. I like how you get to the point and don’t fill your time with a bunch of “noise” as is evident with so many carnivore influencers and educators. I really appreciate you getting your points across in such a succinct and clear manner.
not always true. I've tasted crabapples before that were sweet and actually had a decent size to them. It varies year to year and also of course you have to find them when they're ripe...
@@jeffslim9518 You mean, like a heroin addict being unable to do "just a little" heroin, or an alcoholic having to abstain from alcohol completely, is merely "an issue of self control"? Issue is that sugar, and carbohydrates in general, cause chemically-based addiction akin to hard drugs. Once you had gotten addicted (and 90% of people in the western world are addicted), you need to abstain COMPLETELY.
@ I am not comparing apples to heroin. I am comparing addiction to addiction. If you cannot understand that, then you need help. Perhaps from a primary school English language teacher.
I love how you conclude your arguments on why you should avoid fruit in favor of strict carnivore by saying that you need to find this balance of electrolytes and fat to do the diet right. When if you just had carbohydrates from fruit your body would be able to hold onto those electrolytes properly.
The Randle Cycle The Randle Cycle The Randle Cycle !!!! Compulsory understanding for everyone so you can fire your doctors, dieticians, and specialists, and take control of your health! Always good to see young Max promote truthful health advice .
Paul Saladino is wrong. You do not need to eat fruits to live healthy and thrive. I used to listen to him until I watched him on a video saying that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. I don’t know how people who defend Saladino can justify him saying that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance insulin resistance, unless they have been listening to vegans instead of real science.
@ That was on another video. I watched him saying exactly that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. There are a few videos of him saying it differentl ways. I stopped listening to him after he said that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. Anyway, too many fruits can cause insulin resistance. They are full of carbohydrates and one of them is fructose which many scientists say is the worse form of carbohydrates.
10:06 . The fructosamine test is used to estimate blood sugar levels over the previous few weeks, mainly by measuring glycated protein, primarily albumin. This test provides an average of blood glucose levels over the past 2 to 3 months, with more recent glucose levels having the most significant impact on the result.
After six months of pure carnivore, I added a single banana per day. This prevents the fluctuations in my heart. Not every body is the same. The advantage of the carnivore lifestyle is that you can easily try things out. That single banana gives me more balance.
It depends on how metabolically out of whack a person is to start with. Took me over a year to be fully fat adapted, but I was previously very sick and transitioned slowly via going Keto before Carnivore
Let's say he was missing something that he obtained from fruit, perhaps electrolytes (since fruit has no vitamins that meat would lack). That would imply that whatever meat he was consuming was deficient in those nutrients and that he could have simply eaten something else instead to fix it. Fish have lots of magnesium and potassium, as an example. Why would you go to fruit, which we all know contains something that is not good for your body to consume in large quantities (fructose), instead of address the problem another way? What Paul does for himself is his own concern, but when giving advice to others, particularly carb addicts, telling them that they can eat fruit is not wise. Not everyone is as physically active as he is, or has the same discipline. It's very easy to slide back into sugar addiction when you are presented with a "natural" and "healthy" version of it.
Fruit was/is a bandaid fix. Paul was not eating enough protein within a small enough eating window to bump insulin enough to maintain proper electrolyte balance. His kidneys were leaky. So he turned to fruit to spike his insulin. And now he is on 300-400 grams of fructose and glucose a day. There is no way this would have been ancestrally sustainable. Paul also ate too beef liver and may have suffered from copper overload and carbs would have relieved symptons of the associated hypervitaminosis. You may have noticed how Paul gradually reduced his liver consumption to a small bite a day. He still needs to shill for organs though because he wants to sell you organ supplements.
Saladino has many "reasons" for why carnivore/keto is bad, but he never considers that he probably wasn't consuming enough fat. I had that problem. When I increased my fat intake (and had to decrease protein a bit to accommodate), things got better. I'm still taking sodium supplements 3.5 years in though. I tried the fruit thing and just wasn't feeling as good after a few months, so eliminated it back out.
Note that, in the study mentioned, it's "low carbohydrate, " not "no carbohydrate." And the former could certainly include a small amount of fruit. Fanaticism is also something to watch for. There may be people who benefit from a zero plant lifestyle, but I'm not one of them, as far as I can tell. I've tried strict carnivore, and not so strict, and notice no difference in the way I feel or my body fat composition. I'm probably not the only one.
Insulin blocks leptin. Wow. Thanks Max. I have been eating about 10 grams of dark chocolate after dinner. The feeling of fullness goes away right after and I figured it was because I actually didn't eat enough. Now I know what the problem is, so thanks again.
I will keep eating fruit, but i will have a open mind and listen to the entire video. For me, no fruit = shit sleep, feel weak, tired. even with good protein:fat ratio, fat adapt, electrolytes/sodium you name it. :) Do what works for you!
in the late summer i found one of those crab apple trees (natural wild apple). they are smaller & less sweet. so i ate a few. first one tasted nice then after the 3rd one my mouth started having a light tingling sensation & they just got too bitter so i spit it out. after that i didnt crave any fruit for days. so when we eat modern day artificially selected sugar loaded fruit like bananas & watermelons of course we will enjoy them due to the dopamine. but these are not natural food, they’re man made. best to have an occasional sugary cheat meal and eat majority meat diet.
I try to respond to as many comments as possible. I usually respond to comments about 2-3 days after the video has gone out. The only time I don’t respond to comments is when I don’t have time. Some of the videos take me 40+ hours to make.
@max.german Appreciate that, Max! If that's true, I take it back. I went back to your last vid and didn't see any responses from you. There was another some time ago, the same. But if you generally do, otherwise, I stand corrected. Thanks!
Since the new year full carnivore except for today. Great reminder to stay carnivore. I’ve noticed it in Chinese food today didn’t taste as good as I thought it would..
@@mmcatezlynnopel9368 You don't get enough , hence you will notice hair/ nail thinning . You won't be able to withstand cold and yeah , just a nightmare . I suggest adding oranges or something high in vitamin C just to supplement.
Dude you nailed this subject, you explained this very well! 👍 Thing with fruit is you couldn't survive on fruit in the wild, imagine chasing an animal for its meat on fruit fuel, the stuff is like alcohol it burns up quick, you would burn out before you even threw your spear!
I have to eat some carbs, I tried 100% carnivore but was losing weight, for the 90% population that turn into fatties, losing weight is great but for those of us that have been thin all our lives losing is not that great. It only takes less than 75 gm of added carbs and my weight does good.
Neuroscientist is spelt wrong. (Nuero.... In Ecuador avocados are watery, thinskinned and curved like a question ❓ mark and citrusy fruits are very very tart
I was wondering and searching on this very question for the past few months as I've been experimenting around with my optimal diet. Most veggies are intolerable to me because of gut dysbiosis and liver toxicity. And I have adrenal exhaustion, and so I got into the habit of having fruit at bedtime for the past few months.
To be fair, he eats a TON of sugar and a good amount is in the form of fruit juice and honey. He also drinks milk everyday which has growth hormones naturally.
I dont know man, when looking at the human anatomy we are clearly designed to eat fruit - from our eyes to our intestines to the shape of our teeth and mouth. I'm not saying you should exclusively eat any food group, I just think you're doing fruit a disservice. Especially when taking into consideration that a lot of the research that's done on fructose is done on high fructose corn syrup and not actual fruit with fiber and water. To me it makes sense to go on fasts, eat clean fruit (no chemicals or pestisides) and naturally raised chicken and beef. I dont know where this weird aversion to fruit comes from, on average I'd say fruit are by far the food group that makes most amount of sense to eat. You're quoting some research papers but disregarding all the other research papers that show the benefits of eating fruit. I'd say it's good to cycle between being fat adapted and eating primarily natural protein and fat sources to being primarily glucose based which the body runs on naturally. All scientists and doctors know that naturally our brains and bodies work with glucose and before humans started cooking food our main source of glucose came from fruit. So instead of picking and choosing research papers that suit your ideology, why not look at the broader research papers, how do people eat and live in the "blue zones" of the world, look at our own anatomy and come to a more general view on health and wellness. Just my two cents, Of course do whatever works for you
Our brains require a minimal amount of glucose that our body produces naturally on its own. Fruits don't contain any essential vitamins or minerals that cannot be obtained through other sources like dairy or meat. The aversion to fruit comes from the dangers of fructose, which we know is not good for the human body.
Super video ich denke mal du sprichst deutsch ich mache seit einer Woche ca carnivore habe es schon vor 1jahr 2woxhen gemacht da hatte ich das selbe Problem unzwar habe ich Riesen Schlaf probleme bei carnivore ich esse eigentlich genug Fett und nehme elektrolyte weißt du woran es liegen könnte?
@@imageword5576 haven't he been surfing for years before switching to high-sugar diet? maybe it's the combination, i don't think a fruit diet can age him as fast as it looks, and maybe something else is going on too.. lots of fruitarians eats more fruits than him, and altho' they do look older it didn't happen as fast as Paul... the difference between Paul and fruitarians is the honey tho', so maybe honey is aging more than fruits?
I had to find out he was wrong the hard way. After 4 weeks adding fruit and honey I would get shaky when I would go four or five hours without it. I also gained seven pounds. I also started getting joint and muscle pains again which was the reason I went Carnivore in the first place. I had to just stop and go back to meat, eggs,and butter only. Funny I started carnivore six years ago because of Paul, he was meat only then?
I'm one of the people that eat a lot of full fat Greek yogurt (with live cultures) on the carnivore diet. And I eat a lot of it every day like at least half a kilo (1200 pounds). Works well for me, but I come from the lowlands in Europe where people have 60%-80% chance to have the lactuse tolerant gene. So keep that in mind, many people are lactose intolerant and don't thrive on it at all. So you have to test for yourself, if you introduce Greek yogurt then see how the body reacts to it.
@TheOne-pv4rz I seem to be ok with it already eating it half a kg a day also haha thanks for the answer just curious why I haven't seen many ppl on carnivore also doing it but your answer makes sense
Dairy is perfectly fine on carnivore. I eat full fat yogurt (Greek and otherwise). Dairy consumption should be controlled though. It's very easy to stall or even put on weight using it, depending on how much you ingest. I use dairy more as a nice treat around dinner time, like a dessert, and usually not every day. As long as you are doing fine with it, keep doing what you're doing. :)
It isnt a problem. I am full carnivore amd dairy products as milk, greek yoghurt full fat and some cheese. Tribe ppl eat meat, and take milk and blood and they know how to ferment it to cheese. If you dont have problems wirh dairy eat the yoghurt it is very healthy for your guts and the high fat is also good for the cholesterol. Butter i use a kilo per person per week. I eat pork, beef, deer and also some chicken, drink organic raw milk, but once in a while a organic apple doesnt give me problems. In europe the law for organic are very strict.
Hey Max, your video quality is improving so much as of recent, good to see fellow kiwis doing some good mahi. Carnivore was instrumental for me so I don’t doubt how much it helps others. It’s the first diet/way of eating that gave me hope after getting diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis in 2023 so I owe a lot to this community for giving me my agency back. The fact is carnivore simply wasn’t cutting it for me anymore pain wise and I was beginning to develop digestive issues I’ve never previously had. I tried many variations you mentioned, lion diet, no eggs, no dairy etc. I think it’s important for people to keep an open mind and to use your intuition to guide you. I’m not commenting here to rip on carnivores by any means, but there can be many benefits to carbohydrates looking from a bioenergetic perspective in terms of energy production and hormonal standpoint. All I ask is for people to experiment without dogmatism. Keep it up bro.
Fruit never brought me pleasure, it was something I ate when meat was not available. Why would anyone WANT to eat them? I will never ever buy fruit from a store.
If I have to take my chances with any fruit or veg at all I would definitely do so with vegetables not fruit, as per a well formulated keto diet. I find the plant wanting you to eat it's fruit argument very unpersuasive. I would not want the higher sugar bomb, the glycation, acid reflux, bloating, onset of diabetes, rotting teeth or rotting fruit in the fridge for that matter! Chugging down pressed concentrated fruit juices is absurd. Mr Saladino can get away with it for now while he is metabolically healthy, still surfing for hours and all the rest of his exercise regime. Most people on carnivore are trying to get well!
Can you please start linking sources for your information and especially the studies you mention in your videos. I really want to trust you but myself and many others don't want to make life altering changes just cause some guy on the internet said so.
Paul has lost the Plot. It's a shame too since, he's the reason, I've been carnivore for 5 years now. And btw since he's gone fruitarian he has aged tremendously look @ a picture a few years ago compared to now....
The same thing about listening to an Australian trying to speak is that all the technical terms become irrelevant when leptin becomes Liptin and sadly I was spending most of my time trying to work out what you actually meant with the words that were coming out of your mouth rather than taking note of your facts. I’m always amazed that a whole continent can be raised with the inability to note the difference between the letter I and the letter E and silly things like the active intercourse becomes a letter six. I accept that the Scottish race have a similar problem but that does not make your shocking dictation any onerous. as I’m dictating this on Apple at 4 o’clock in the morning I really can’t be bothered to check the accuracy of the translation although I did see some rather even by Australian standards equally shocking translation which I created. Can’t be bothered to listen to the rest of your notes fortunately I am aware that fruit on the carnivore isn’t good roughly 6 words.
hm, english is not my native language, but i have no problem understanding him.. some british accents are very hard for me to understand tho', but not Max..
he made a video about coffee, he didn't say it's "ok", or maybe a little bit ;) because he ended the video with excuses about why he drinks it anyway even tho' it's not ok
i dont think low carb carnivore diet does any harm. i cant even feel the difference if i eat no carbs or just a little carbs. fresh raw meat contains glycogen anyway
Homo sapiens evolved in an environment containing few, generally seasonal, carbohydrates. These days most people consume extreme amounts of carbohydrates daily. Today's standard diet is "extreme".
small question about your diet: You dont drink milk or coffee, so do you drink water from filtered tab or from bottles? Because you also once said that tea created issues too. I am currently asking myself what I should drink, mostly because I have endless craving of water and milk.
I just added fruit after 6 months carnivore, because i was still getting toe, leg and stomach cramps, inspired by Paul Saladino. Been carnivore + fruit 2 weeks. Still getting cramps all the time.
About 10 years ago I was working with a guy who kept getting bouts of gout. He'd have to take time off and I'd be picking up the load. One time after he had been off for 2 weeks he was back in the office and he was legit apologizing to me and thanked me for backing him up. We began chatting and he was saying that he wished he knew what was causing it as he was doing exactly what the doctor was telling him to do and he had cut out all the stuff that caused gout. So I asked hi if he had cut out fructose and he looked at me like I was crazy. I showed him a video I had watched a few months earlier about what fructose does in the body and it's link to uric acid production. He watched it on lunch and came back to me asking a whole bunch of questions. I told him that there was no harm in at least trying and seeing what happened but if he was happy to always be in pain then don't do anything and just live like that. So I basically told him no fruit and NO food with high fructose corn syrup and that he will HAVE to read labels. He did it and I was on vacation the following week so it was about 2 weeks from when he started to when I saw him next. The first thing he did was give me a hug and tell me that for the first time in years he had spent 2 full days in ZERO pain. None. He told me it had been hard but he felt so much better that it was worth it to him. Of course his wife and doctor were going on and on about how unhealthy it was to not eat fruit but he told them that he'd rather die young pain free than live a long life in agony. He kept it up for years until he unfortunately died of cancer. but his gout was cured at least.
Wish you had left out the bit on the bottom line of your comment. Kinda spoiled a great story
@@Lion-om2lu Yep...just look at how swollen those cows are and they are literally made of meat. If it matters he had oral cancer from using chewing tobacco so meat had NOTHING to do with it. But nice try.
While shopping the other day I overheard a granny talking to the child who wanted to eat strawberries, but the granny told her she needs to sugar them first or they won't taste like strawberries...
We are killing ourselves...
Still better than a snickers bar
For one, granny is wrong. Washing and bathing the strawberries in salted water makes them more strawberry-ery
Sadly, our elders are not always right. That said I think we should still respect and listen to our elders as they are more often right than wrong. Depends on the subject and the elder I think.
Granny is a sugar addict
Max’s argument on Glycation alone is enough to overwhelmingly win this argument.
I'm not brilliantly keen on the acid reflux, bloating, rotting teeth and onset of diabetes either! I'm with Bart Kay on this.
There are pesticides inside the fruits and cannot be washed out. The fruit dealers add it to the water for the fruit tree. And if the maximum of amount of pesticide A is reached, they will add B. Furthermore I heard from a colleague that many of them overdose, and go above the officially allowed amounts. For example by spraying in the evening.
Thanks, Max! I really appreciate your channel - always useful, well-researched, logical, and to the point.
Thank you Lisa
Berries here in UK only grow naturally in autumn, which maybe suggests we only used to eat them to fatten ourselves up for winter.
Something we never did. The body naturally fattens for Winter, due to less sunlight/melatonin.
Lol nobody gets fat on berries (!!!)
@@adamandsteve13 Your mom does.
There is a book, Drop Acid, by a doctor David Perlmutter about uric acid and gout. Humans lost the gene to make urokinase about 2 million years ago. Urokinase is the enzyme that breaks down uric acid in most other animals. So we easily increase our uric acid. Uric acid is used in the liver to metabolize fructose and now ethanol. He explains there is a theory that losing this gene allowed humans to better over-eat fruit before the winter for extra calories and provided an advantage versus humans with the gene. It kinda makes sense, but it's just a theory.
@@adamandsteve13u live in a different World Where learning is not part it? Berries have fructose, hense yes u Can get fat on berries
You can try and theorise all these things , but the best way is too test it out for yourself , for atleast a few month. Adding fruit to my carnivore diet was a life safer. Strict Carnivore for roughly 10 years ( no organs just fat and meat/marrow). Gave me lots of hormonal issues , ovarian cyst , PCOS , the worst symptom was hairloss, since that was the only visible symptom . but I added fruit and peanuts / yogurt and everything balanced out again hormonally, ..my ovarian cycst disappeared and I feel like I can live again. Carnivore are great for short stints , but come to a 1.5 year mark and you will start feeling BAAAD! Don't push it , quite at that stage and reevaluate !
I just eat meat of all types and eggs and never have any issues
You are amazing! You make more sense to me than some Drs I know. Thank you Max.
last time i recognize that when i was carnivore and i sit almost entire day i wasn't stiff. now when i'm eating sugar after hours sitting i'm stiff and even fell small pain in my legs when i stand up from chair. someone notice the same?
Same. In fact, the tissue in my knee tore for no reason except that, as the doctor informed me, my joint tissue was all broken down and my joints were "bone on bone". That was 6 years ago. In 2022, I had excruciating joint pain in my rear end (sacroilliac) that was so bad that even the thought of moving would set off muscle spasms that were more painful than childbirth. I went keto April 2024. Joint pain GONE. Except a tiny bit in my hand if I am sitting a long time and holding my phone. Or in my feet when I stand up in the morning after eating fruit at bedtime.
When I went off carnivore once for nostalgia reasons, I immediately noticed stiffness and pain throughout my body. Never again.
great video, very informative!!
Thank you
Literally the entire point of carnivore/keto is to be in ketosis (which gives the constant energy, weight loss and almost all other benefits), but when you eat sugary fruit you are thrown out of ketosis and you turn back into a cаrb junkie that just eats more meat than most other people, but who still runs on glucose nonetheless.
But long term ketosis leads to hypothyroidism and other hormonal un balance due to stress hormones involved. Same happened to Saladino, he also over trains on top of all this. You can be animal based, eat lots of meat(not fully cooked), fat, and some hydrating fruits. Salt, and fully cooked meat turns you into sugar addict, not raw meat and fruits. It takes time, but you will see.
@@desmomotodesmomoto2033 you’re right. People are so trapped and brain washed by the idea that fruits are bad for you. What tool bags.
Our body has something called “insulin” and “blood glucose level”. Doesn’t it make sense it has been designed to help the body utilise glucose molecules for many functions in the body?
People only eating meat will ultra crave carbs and they will become sugar junkies because they’ll relapse majorly.
if you're on keto diet, as long you eat animal saturated fat you'll be fine. 50-60 % fat of your calories is enough (it has to be raw of or not too cooked) because your brain will thrive on glucose produced from fats through neoglucogenesis
@@desmomotodesmomoto2033 where did you get all that mis information?
That is false. The entire point of carnivore/keto is for the body to oxidize the appropriate source of fuel, which are fatty acids from animal sources. It is indicated to eat one meal a day and in that one sitting eat enough animal protein to get a bump in insulin that signals to the kidneys to hold on to electrolytes, that's what these Saladidon'tknows usually don't do hence why they get cramps / have to supplement with electrolytes / go back to eating carbs.
heavy cream and yolk if you want a dessert. Add no sugar electrolytes for fruity taste too
That's a good idea... raw yolk and double cream whisked up... imma try that
sounds depressing just have some berries instead
Sounds Narly. Hey Thanx for that idea. Haha, you should do a cookbook
@@katobytes I don't crave berries. I'm not a carb addict
@@RedemptionDenied you are an addict if youre putting in "zero sugar" salts in your cream just to have something sweet
He rebranded to “animal based” - as his followers on instagram screamed at me when I questioned him dumping mountains of honey on an apple 😂
Apples are already insanely sweet. Hard to imagine why you'd need to add honey to them...
Max, what is your take on Dr. o’Mara’s positive view on consuming small amounts of fermented plant foods like sauerkraut
I personally do not miss things which were harming me. 🥩 🥚 🧈 🥓 is good enough for me.
Fantastic video!!!!! Thank you 🙏🏻
Your videos on the argument are really well done!
Good job man!
Thanks Alessandro
The word 'Doctor'' is derived from the Latin word “docere,” which means “to teach.”. You are teaching us about health. You are a literal Doctor.. Dr. Max.
Carbohydrates (insulin) not only block satiety (leptin), but also fat metabolism, so that 100% of the fat is stored while you are in glucose metabolism. 😉
"Carbohydrates (i.e. insulin)"
You need to reword that. You are saying that insulin is carbohydrates.
When you are not eatiing human food you are also fucking up your hormones which can make you hungry, depressed and all kind of things.
@ I am not a native English speaker, but I get your point. The thing is that satiety also is not leptin. Satiety is a feeling and leptin is a hormone. That are 2 different terms which have a tight conjunction, but they are not the same.
This makes zero sense and its also not true
@ Then please be so friendly and correct me. Thanks.
Thank you, Max - great presentation!
Thanks Max for providing so much information in this video. I like how you get to the point and don’t fill your time with a bunch of “noise” as is evident with so many carnivore influencers and educators. I really appreciate you getting your points across in such a succinct and clear manner.
Find a crab-apple tree growing wild in some UK marginal land. They are hard and not sweet
not always true. I've tasted crabapples before that were sweet and actually had a decent size to them. It varies year to year and also of course you have to find them when they're ripe...
Whenever I start eating fruit, I end up on bread, cookies and chocolate.
Sounds like an issue with self control, not an issue with fruit
@@jeffslim9518 You mean, like a heroin addict being unable to do "just a little" heroin, or an alcoholic having to abstain from alcohol completely, is merely "an issue of self control"?
Issue is that sugar, and carbohydrates in general, cause chemically-based addiction akin to hard drugs. Once you had gotten addicted (and 90% of people in the western world are addicted), you need to abstain COMPLETELY.
@@aldariontelcontar lol imagine comparing apples to heroin. Get help
@ I am not comparing apples to heroin. I am comparing addiction to addiction.
If you cannot understand that, then you need help. Perhaps from a primary school English language teacher.
I’m the same way. Fruit triggers me to want more sweets. It also increases my appetite.
I love how you conclude your arguments on why you should avoid fruit in favor of strict carnivore by saying that you need to find this balance of electrolytes and fat to do the diet right. When if you just had carbohydrates from fruit your body would be able to hold onto those electrolytes properly.
The Randle Cycle
The Randle Cycle
The Randle Cycle !!!!
Compulsory understanding for everyone so you can fire your doctors, dieticians, and specialists, and take control of your health!
Always good to see young Max promote truthful health advice .
And now think of all these raw high carb vegans, those who only eat fruits all day basically.
Max, you make all this sound so simple, it is. Happy Australia Day. 🇦🇺 🇳🇿
This information is solid!
Paul Saladino is wrong. You do not need to eat fruits to live healthy and thrive. I used to listen to him until I watched him on a video saying that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. I don’t know how people who defend Saladino can justify him saying that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance insulin resistance, unless they have been listening to vegans instead of real science.
Sugar reverses insulin resistance. Just do some basic research.
he said fruits don't cause insulin resistance, not carbs
@ That was on another video. I watched him saying exactly that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. There are a few videos of him saying it differentl ways. I stopped listening to him after he said that too many carbohydrates don’t cause insulin resistance. Anyway, too many fruits can cause insulin resistance. They are full of carbohydrates and one of them is fructose which many scientists say is the worse form of carbohydrates.
❤your videos never cease to amaze me!
Thanks Suzanne❤️
10:06 . The fructosamine test is used to estimate blood sugar levels over the previous few weeks, mainly by measuring glycated protein, primarily albumin. This test provides an average of blood glucose levels over the past 2 to 3 months, with more recent glucose levels having the most significant impact on the result.
Wow your videos are getting better and better, you can see the amount of effort you are putting into them, well done
After six months of pure carnivore, I added a single banana per day. This prevents the fluctuations in my heart. Not every body is the same. The advantage of the carnivore lifestyle is that you can easily try things out. That single banana gives me more balance.
Because of potassium most likely,not carbs
Definitely potassium
Could be, but I also just take a daily amount of electrolytes.
Maybe you could try adding more eggs and salt? Eggs are good multivitamins
@@RedemptionDenied I eat six eggs a day with salt. Perhaps the potassium in the banana is better absorbed by my body.
Having some berries a couple of times a week will most likely be benign
how long does it take to become fat adapted?
4-16weeks
It depends on how metabolically out of whack a person is to start with. Took me over a year to be fully fat adapted, but I was previously very sick and transitioned slowly via going Keto before Carnivore
Fat adaptation isn't real. The moment you re-introduce carbs you go back to burning them.
@ why would you re-introduce carbs???
@@annettestephens5337 Exactly, there is no need
Good stuff Max. Thank you
Paul ate no fruit = had health problems
Started eating fruit = health problems resolved
How is he wrong?
Let's say he was missing something that he obtained from fruit, perhaps electrolytes (since fruit has no vitamins that meat would lack). That would imply that whatever meat he was consuming was deficient in those nutrients and that he could have simply eaten something else instead to fix it. Fish have lots of magnesium and potassium, as an example. Why would you go to fruit, which we all know contains something that is not good for your body to consume in large quantities (fructose), instead of address the problem another way?
What Paul does for himself is his own concern, but when giving advice to others, particularly carb addicts, telling them that they can eat fruit is not wise. Not everyone is as physically active as he is, or has the same discipline. It's very easy to slide back into sugar addiction when you are presented with a "natural" and "healthy" version of it.
Fruit was/is a bandaid fix. Paul was not eating enough protein within a small enough eating window to bump insulin enough to maintain proper electrolyte balance. His kidneys were leaky. So he turned to fruit to spike his insulin. And now he is on 300-400 grams of fructose and glucose a day. There is no way this would have been ancestrally sustainable. Paul also ate too beef liver and may have suffered from copper overload and carbs would have relieved symptons of the associated hypervitaminosis. You may have noticed how Paul gradually reduced his liver consumption to a small bite a day. He still needs to shill for organs though because he wants to sell you organ supplements.
Saladino has many "reasons" for why carnivore/keto is bad, but he never considers that he probably wasn't consuming enough fat. I had that problem. When I increased my fat intake (and had to decrease protein a bit to accommodate), things got better. I'm still taking sodium supplements 3.5 years in though. I tried the fruit thing and just wasn't feeling as good after a few months, so eliminated it back out.
His reasons are probably all green. Nothing to sell if you eliminate plants
Sodium... supplements? I put some high-mineral salt in my water and/or on my food. Is that what you mean?
Note that, in the study mentioned, it's "low carbohydrate, " not "no carbohydrate." And the former could certainly include a small amount of fruit. Fanaticism is also something to watch for. There may be people who benefit from a zero plant lifestyle, but I'm not one of them, as far as I can tell. I've tried strict carnivore, and not so strict, and notice no difference in the way I feel or my body fat composition. I'm probably not the only one.
Insulin blocks leptin. Wow. Thanks Max.
I have been eating about 10 grams of dark chocolate after dinner. The feeling of fullness goes away right after and I figured it was because I actually didn't eat enough. Now I know what the problem is, so thanks again.
can you make a video on thyroid and carnivore having hypothyroid?
I will keep eating fruit, but i will have a open mind and listen to the entire video.
For me, no fruit = shit sleep, feel weak, tired. even with good protein:fat ratio, fat adapt, electrolytes/sodium you name it. :)
Do what works for you!
If you drink caffeine, then it's stealing amino acids and electrolytes.
Eat fruit.
@@davo9774Stop coping.
same! thats also been my experience. I feel great on pure carnivore, until about 1-2 weeks in, when the insomnia sets in
@ yup.
I can't mentally and physically work at the same intensity without carbohydrates.
Very informative, well summarized!! Great video!!!😊😊😊
in the late summer i found one of those crab apple trees (natural wild apple). they are smaller & less sweet. so i ate a few. first one tasted nice then after the 3rd one my mouth started having a light tingling sensation & they just got too bitter so i spit it out. after that i didnt crave any fruit for days. so when we eat modern day artificially selected sugar loaded fruit like bananas & watermelons of course we will enjoy them due to the dopamine. but these are not natural food, they’re man made. best to have an occasional sugary cheat meal and eat majority meat diet.
You’d benefit from engaging in the comments. You just drop a video and leave, without answering any questions or responding to critical comments.
I try to respond to as many comments as possible. I usually respond to comments about 2-3 days after the video has gone out. The only time I don’t respond to comments is when I don’t have time. Some of the videos take me 40+ hours to make.
@max.german Appreciate that, Max! If that's true, I take it back. I went back to your last vid and didn't see any responses from you. There was another some time ago, the same. But if you generally do, otherwise, I stand corrected. Thanks!
Great explanation Max.
In my understanding it's the fructose which makes the blood lipids sticky and harmful for the blood vessels
Since the new year full carnivore except for today. Great reminder to stay carnivore. I’ve noticed it in Chinese food today didn’t taste as good as I thought it would..
I get the spike with raw milk. Its a rare treat for me though.
How do you get vitamin C on a carnivore diet?
Meat does have vitamin c and it is enough when you don't eat carbs which will decrease Vit C absorption
@@mmcatezlynnopel9368 You don't get enough , hence you will notice hair/ nail thinning . You won't be able to withstand cold and yeah , just a nightmare . I suggest adding oranges or something high in vitamin C just to supplement.
Dude you nailed this subject, you explained this very well! 👍
Thing with fruit is you couldn't survive on fruit in the wild, imagine chasing an animal for its meat on
fruit fuel, the stuff is like alcohol it burns up quick, you would burn out before you even threw your spear!
I have to eat some carbs, I tried 100% carnivore but was losing weight, for the 90% population that turn into fatties, losing weight is great but for those of us that have been thin all our lives losing is not that great. It only takes less than 75 gm of added carbs and my weight does good.
The thing is glucose and vitamin C compete and so if you do eat carbs then fruit is best
People can't understand why I no longer eat fruit - ignorance in society is staggering.
Too true, having eaten no fruit or veg for 17 months, to the naysayers I ask, do I look sick? 😆
@@AnneMB955 People are so sick with their man made diets that their brains no longer process what their eyes see.
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Neuroscientist is spelt wrong. (Nuero....
In Ecuador avocados are watery, thinskinned and curved like a question ❓ mark and citrusy fruits are very very tart
Has coconut water the same spike as juice and fruit? What about avcado( which is a fruit, too)?
I was wondering and searching on this very question for the past few months as I've been experimenting around with my optimal diet. Most veggies are intolerable to me because of gut dysbiosis and liver toxicity. And I have adrenal exhaustion, and so I got into the habit of having fruit at bedtime for the past few months.
-Paul Saladino added fruits to his diet
-He aged a lot
-Don't eat fruits
True, but he eats primarily fruits and some meat 😂.
@francescomarchesoni4807 fruits have zero correlation to ageing numnut.
He looks as if he aged because he works out strenuously.
Go watch Goatis
he also surfs all day so that probably ages him too
BS
To be fair, he eats a TON of sugar and a good amount is in the form of fruit juice and honey. He also drinks milk everyday which has growth hormones naturally.
Thanks Max!
Thanks bro
I think Paul eats fruits only because he loves them not because they are healthy🤣
like okay but i find it more easy to have energy that way than waiting for the ketogenesis, when you lift weight a banana is good
I dont know man, when looking at the human anatomy we are clearly designed to eat fruit - from our eyes to our intestines to the shape of our teeth and mouth. I'm not saying you should exclusively eat any food group, I just think you're doing fruit a disservice. Especially when taking into consideration that a lot of the research that's done on fructose is done on high fructose corn syrup and not actual fruit with fiber and water. To me it makes sense to go on fasts, eat clean fruit (no chemicals or pestisides) and naturally raised chicken and beef. I dont know where this weird aversion to fruit comes from, on average I'd say fruit are by far the food group that makes most amount of sense to eat. You're quoting some research papers but disregarding all the other research papers that show the benefits of eating fruit. I'd say it's good to cycle between being fat adapted and eating primarily natural protein and fat sources to being primarily glucose based which the body runs on naturally. All scientists and doctors know that naturally our brains and bodies work with glucose and before humans started cooking food our main source of glucose came from fruit. So instead of picking and choosing research papers that suit your ideology, why not look at the broader research papers, how do people eat and live in the "blue zones" of the world, look at our own anatomy and come to a more general view on health and wellness. Just my two cents, Of course do whatever works for you
Fruits you eat are not real fruit, but hybrids based on sugar sweetness, just eat foods that existed 20,000 yrs ago.
Interesting narrative you're pushing 🤔
Id like to see you eat real apples that make ur tongue tingly at the second apple😂
Our brains require a minimal amount of glucose that our body produces naturally on its own. Fruits don't contain any essential vitamins or minerals that cannot be obtained through other sources like dairy or meat. The aversion to fruit comes from the dangers of fructose, which we know is not good for the human body.
I’m with you on adding fat!!!
Super video ich denke mal du sprichst deutsch ich mache seit einer Woche ca carnivore habe es schon vor 1jahr 2woxhen gemacht da hatte ich das selbe Problem unzwar habe ich Riesen Schlaf probleme bei carnivore ich esse eigentlich genug Fett und nehme elektrolyte weißt du woran es liegen könnte?
1:05 This is what Paul Saladino is experiencing on a daily basis 😊
(and ageing him fast)
it's more likely the hours of sun and salt water that are drying his skin out.
@@imageword5576 haven't he been surfing for years before switching to high-sugar diet? maybe it's the combination, i don't think a fruit diet can age him as fast as it looks, and maybe something else is going on too.. lots of fruitarians eats more fruits than him, and altho' they do look older it didn't happen as fast as Paul... the difference between Paul and fruitarians is the honey tho', so maybe honey is aging more than fruits?
Its weird tho, once I add banana/apple to my yogurt/whey mix after workout I just get ravenous as fk
Paul is an addict to sugar 😂. Funny Guy
Yep he is! Goeke is absolutely guest you need to have on
Fruit doesn't even sound like a carnivore.
No carnivore cooks their meat so max isnt a carnivore anyway
Dr. Judy Cho made a video about his bloods. Until he make a video about that then. I wont consider adding fruits
So you can measure your mitichlorians? Disease markers don't mean anything for health even when they are not fraudulent like LDL
I had to find out he was wrong the hard way. After 4 weeks adding fruit and honey I would get shaky when I would go four or five hours without it. I also gained seven pounds. I also started getting joint and muscle pains again which was the reason I went Carnivore in the first place. I had to just stop and go back to meat, eggs,and butter only. Funny I started carnivore six years ago because of Paul, he was meat only then?
Thank you young man. Great video. Carnivore is the proper human diet. William
Cheers William. I appreciate the support mate.
Hey max question is Greek yogurt ok on carnivore being dairy I've always wondered never seen many carnivores eat it?
I'm one of the people that eat a lot of full fat Greek yogurt (with live cultures) on the carnivore diet. And I eat a lot of it every day like at least half a kilo (1200 pounds). Works well for me, but I come from the lowlands in Europe where people have 60%-80% chance to have the lactuse tolerant gene. So keep that in mind, many people are lactose intolerant and don't thrive on it at all. So you have to test for yourself, if you introduce Greek yogurt then see how the body reacts to it.
@TheOne-pv4rz I seem to be ok with it already eating it half a kg a day also haha thanks for the answer just curious why I haven't seen many ppl on carnivore also doing it but your answer makes sense
Dairy is perfectly fine on carnivore. I eat full fat yogurt (Greek and otherwise). Dairy consumption should be controlled though. It's very easy to stall or even put on weight using it, depending on how much you ingest. I use dairy more as a nice treat around dinner time, like a dessert, and usually not every day. As long as you are doing fine with it, keep doing what you're doing. :)
It isnt a problem. I am full carnivore amd dairy products as milk, greek yoghurt full fat and some cheese.
Tribe ppl eat meat, and take milk and blood and they know how to ferment it to cheese.
If you dont have problems wirh dairy eat the yoghurt it is very healthy for your guts and the high fat is also good for the cholesterol. Butter i use a kilo per person per week. I eat pork, beef, deer and also some chicken, drink organic raw milk, but once in a while a organic apple doesnt give me problems.
In europe the law for organic are very strict.
Hey Max, your video quality is improving so much as of recent, good to see fellow kiwis doing some good mahi.
Carnivore was instrumental for me so I don’t doubt how much it helps others. It’s the first diet/way of eating that gave me hope after getting diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis in 2023 so I owe a lot to this community for giving me my agency back.
The fact is carnivore simply wasn’t cutting it for me anymore pain wise and I was beginning to develop digestive issues I’ve never previously had. I tried many variations you mentioned, lion diet, no eggs, no dairy etc.
I think it’s important for people to keep an open mind and to use your intuition to guide you.
I’m not commenting here to rip on carnivores by any means, but there can be many benefits to carbohydrates looking from a bioenergetic perspective in terms of energy production and hormonal standpoint. All I ask is for people to experiment without dogmatism.
Keep it up bro.
Fruit never brought me pleasure, it was something I ate when meat was not available. Why would anyone WANT to eat them? I will never ever buy fruit from a store.
If I have to take my chances with any fruit or veg at all I would definitely do so with vegetables not fruit, as per a well formulated keto diet. I find the plant wanting you to eat it's fruit argument very unpersuasive. I would not want the higher sugar bomb, the glycation, acid reflux, bloating, onset of diabetes, rotting teeth or rotting fruit in the fridge for that matter! Chugging down pressed concentrated fruit juices is absurd. Mr Saladino can get away with it for now while he is metabolically healthy, still surfing for hours and all the rest of his exercise regime. Most people on carnivore are trying to get well!
debate saladino then, you won't. he would clock you on this issue.
Saladino is absolutely addicted to honey and fruit. He probably had to quit carnivore because he was taking liver pills.
Idiotic
Can you please start linking sources for your information and especially the studies you mention in your videos. I really want to trust you but myself and many others don't want to make life altering changes just cause some guy on the internet said so.
Paul has lost the Plot. It's a shame too since, he's the reason, I've been carnivore for 5 years now. And btw since he's gone fruitarian he has aged tremendously look @ a picture a few years ago compared to now....
The same thing about listening to an Australian trying to speak is that all the technical terms become irrelevant when leptin becomes Liptin and sadly I was spending most of my time trying to work out what you actually meant with the words that were coming out of your mouth rather than taking note of your facts. I’m always amazed that a whole continent can be raised with the inability to note the difference between the letter I and the letter E and silly things like the active intercourse becomes a letter six. I accept that the Scottish race have a similar problem but that does not make your shocking dictation any onerous. as I’m dictating this on Apple at 4 o’clock in the morning I really can’t be bothered to check the accuracy of the translation although I did see some rather even by Australian standards equally shocking translation which I created. Can’t be bothered to listen to the rest of your notes fortunately I am aware that fruit on the carnivore isn’t good roughly 6 words.
Errr ... Terry, not Australian! Look up Kiwi accent. Australians take the piss out of them for the same reason.
hm, english is not my native language, but i have no problem understanding him.. some british accents are very hard for me to understand tho', but not Max..
Please say that coffee is ok. I can't live without it. Carnivore for two years. Just meat, beef, lamb and eggs. Sometimes bacon.
he made a video about coffee, he didn't say it's "ok", or maybe a little bit ;) because he ended the video with excuses about why he drinks it anyway even tho' it's not ok
i dont think low carb carnivore diet does any harm. i cant even feel the difference if i eat no carbs or just a little carbs. fresh raw meat contains glycogen anyway
Your videos are top tier. Best explanations ever 👏
Thank you
Why you pronounce better like bitter, best like beast… etcetc
Haha I’m from New Zealand. So it’s my accent.
@ ahah 😜 anyway I really like your channel!
what about people eating fried green tomatoes - unripe, didn't die?
Thank you 🙏
Carnivores and vegans are the same to me. They are both pretty damn extreme.
Homo sapiens evolved in an environment containing few, generally seasonal, carbohydrates. These days most people consume extreme amounts of carbohydrates daily. Today's standard diet is "extreme".
@andrewwood3597 it is
small question about your diet: You dont drink milk or coffee, so do you drink water from filtered tab or from bottles? Because you also once said that tea created issues too. I am currently asking myself what I should drink, mostly because I have endless craving of water and milk.
Thanks for the videos! Cheers from Uruguay 🥩💪🏻
yo tambien soy de uruguay jaja
@@mforkvtvamo esos carnívoros uruguayos momá! Jaja
You don't make friends with Paulie Salad. o/
Why not just eat locally and seasonal food?
There's no way in hell that Saladino burns off all the fruit he eats in one day! It's gotta go somewhere else.
I just added fruit after 6 months carnivore, because i was still getting toe, leg and stomach cramps, inspired by Paul Saladino. Been carnivore + fruit 2 weeks. Still getting cramps all the time.
Drink snakejuice, sounds like you have an electrolyte issue. I had the same until I added that one thing.
Maybe you just need more electrolytes.
fruit is devil
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Agreed. I never understood the fruit and honey thing. Just makes no intuitive sense to me 🤔
Wild passionfruit is a good example here in NZ; much more sour than it is sweet. The cultivated purple ones taste much nicer.