I feel like the "key pass" stat doesn't do justice to Antony. I think he made arguably the best pass of the game that didn't lead to a shot cause Bruno's left foot is the equivalent of Antony's right, and he has the speed of Jonny Evans.
For me, Amorim is the first manager post Fergie where you can see and feel the same sort of hunger and bloody mindedness that Ferguson had when he arrived from Scotland. They are also both intelligent. Ferguson had already had success in Scotland, but United was the big stage to prove himself, and he knew it. I think Amorim feels the same. I also think he has no fear of the job. I think the fact he is Ineo's' guy means they will back him as much as they are financially able to so without breaking the rules. It wouldn't be good business not to. Personally I'm very hopeful for the future.
Eriksen doesn’t have the legs anymore. You could see how easily Spurs beat the press in the 1st half because Eriksen could jump to the next player. That said, as a free transfer, he was a great signing
Regarding the team rotation, this is part of Rubens idea. Don't think that is just an audition he gives to players. He needs to keep rotating because: 1. To keep physicality levels high, players need to rest from time to time, and have minutes during matches to be fit at any given time; 2. To keep players feeling part of something, morality, confidence etc... In Sporting we had one of the shortest squads in the league, but with the right players. That's what made that team to feel as a family where everyone has a sense of purpose. I'm cheering for Man Utd! Let's go!
I only think Bayendir was to blame for the 4th goal. He clearly thought it was swerving over and didn’t react in time (even if the VAR would’ve saved him in the prem). The first goal was a normal save of a swerving shot and ALL our players were flat footed.
I'd love best in class signings, but the reality is we've got budget constraints. I agree LCB is a spot we need strengthening. Especially with Shaws injury record and we're losing a few CBs for no fee as their contracts run out. Bastoni is around €70mil, I'd rather spread what ever budget we have out over a few positions. I'd go for Inacho at Sporting. Also an aggressive LCB. He's a similar, aggressive style of defender to Martinez. Price is around €45mil. What do you think of Inacho?
@@dustinmccrindle343 Inacio is the most likely signing especially with our connections to Sporting via Amorim and our own history with that club. There are a dearth of quality LCBs at the moment. Lukeba from Leipzig looks like he could be quality, but also would be quite pricey
@@dustinmccrindle343 definitely Inacio is a good option, he is very much capable of playing out from the back and looks like he has the engine in him to play in PL. He can be a good one for Man U
I'd sell Licha if we could upgrade on Bastoni. Otherwise, I think we need to focus on other areas, particularly wingbacks, striker, inside forwards. These are more important if you ask me
I'm surprised the ref allowed that corner goal. His hand was clearly held. Minus that goal, we would have drawn, and who knows after that? We definitely had the upper hand
Mainoo has now being targeted whenever he has the ball. Teams know that you have to get 2 or 3 players on him and bully him. He adapts to it during games and will be more physical the older he gets, but right now he maybe needs to be allowed to drop deeper to get the ball, or play quicker to avoid being pressed.
Anyone else remember when we had the Argentinian number 1 as our number 2 GK? My how times have changed ay! Looking forward to Rubin Amorim being able to cook.
Seriously ! How does he always get away with it ! He’s the “star player” and the “captain” but it’s ok if he continuously every single game gives the ball away ! Why why why does he always get away with it. And then he bitches at other players when they misplace or miss a chance when that’s all he does 🤬 sick of him! Sell him , thing is nobody wants him expect for smaller clubs. No top club would take Bruno he’s a liability
eriksen ranking unfair, at least a 6 imo, very instrumental with a couple line breaking passes that made a couple of our early openings in the 1st half. got on the end of stuff and should’ve converted.
LM is a weird one. The stature is a massive problem but I see him as someone that will be able to adjust with the right wingback. He's an intelligent player and it's so important to have someone slice up a team with one pass from the back and keeping the opposition on edge.
I think Amorim prioritized the Bournemouth game, and that was why he rested key players, he played enough of the first choice players to give us a chance but it never came off, they looked exactly as they are, second rate, the first half performance shows the huge lack of depth in the squad.
@@andrewoconnell8506 I would say he needed to rest him, he has had 2-3 howlers in goal recently, he needs to reflect and regroup, the pressure is immense, United have traditionally played second tier goal keepers in the Carabao before, do you remember Sergio Romero? It never came off because Bayindir just did not show he is a Manchester United player.
I will tell you why😅 1. The first one was a,really well hit shot and noone followed in. 2. Try catching a ball when someone even touches you rarm a little. He clearly wanted to catch it. Experts after the event in both instances.
As bad as Antony was, I simply do not understand why Amorim played him in the 10. 🤔 His recent cameos - which actually weren't as bad as we would usually expect - were in the wing-back role, so the logical decision would have been to give him a START in that same role, and see if there is anything there. 🤷♂️ Instead, Amorim kind of threw him to the wolves by playing him in the 10, because not only is Antony a winger who prefers some space on the ball, but also he usually hugs the touchline, so being positioned centrally was NEVER going to work for him. 😕
Not sure why everyone thinks this is Amorim not knowing his best 11. It’s clear to me that this is his way of creating that team spirit with everyone feeling that they are contributing. He keeps emphasising that football is a team game and this is clearly a huge part of his philosophy. Also the style of football he plays demands constant energy so players being rested and rotated is non negotiable.
I think you were harsh on this. I agree with the keeper, but I have no worries about Martinez and Lind didn't do much but, did nothing wrong either. Erik, I'd only play ACM. Other than that there were no stand out performances on our team other Ugarte and Amed again, imo. I consider Tottenham's attack one of the best out there and that's what cost us this time.
All our goals under the manager we from pressing now that’s great but not good enough we need to actully creat from open play imo .. yes cut backs but talking more though the middle
I was surprised with the selection in first place with players needing minutes i expected casa ,malacia,mcguire and zirkzee to of started .... Rasmus needs more movement stands still far too much doesnt make it had to be marked and droppinng back instead of attacking the goal
Rasmus is a worry. Lacks the fundamentals as a striker. Touch is poor, can't hold up or link play, and off the ball movement is a lot to be desired. Year on year improvement is minimal. At best, he is a backup. We deperately need a proper striker.
Stes waited all week to go back on the Antony attack. He didn't have a great game, but passed the eye test with ease. Several great moments with the press and link play. Chasing lost causes and putting in work. A 4.5 when Martinez is getting a 5 is criminal, Martinez was pathetic and directly involved in us conceding. One minute Ste is telling people you can't just rely on stats the next he's cherry picking them to insult a player he hates on a personal level. It's embarrassing. Be better you clown. Edit: He also then gives Garnacho a 6 FFS. Are you for real? The guy did nothing when he came on, ran the ball out of play from good positions. Refused to chase any lost causes. Utter dross. Ste used to be worth watching but he's now a part of the problem.
@@andrewoconnell8506 again he didn't have a great game. But he switched play well, kept possession well, decent pass accuracy and got back to cover when needed. Relentlessly ran making space and closing passing lanes. Garnacho was pathetic when he came on. Literally did nothing. I watched him walk as a ball ran out of play at least twice! I'm not saying Antony should get 8-9/10 but he sure as hell should have been above Garnacho and Martinez. Ste needs to grow up, letting his personal agenda cloud his judgement. Used to be one of the few on Paddock that would talk sense. Now he's up there with Jay and Adam with the amount of bias waffle he comes up with.
I agree that there is probably a bit of negative bias towards Antony, however, he was very poor to be fair. Can't fault his effort, but the lack of quality at times is shocking.
@@grocno796 saying he was very poor is too extreme tbh. He was ok. He's clearly shot of confidence and yet the kid refuses to give up. Sick of content creators and our fans backing clowns like Rashford and Garnacho then piling in on the lads that never stopped trying Maguire/Casemiro/Antony.
I think our crossing this game was very bad. Its good we are actually crossing the ball SOME instead of almost none but most of them came from dalot and bruno and they had okay pace but were to a space instead of to a player. Thats a byproduct of not getting heads up enough and seeing runs then over hitting those runs. I disagree with you saying rasmus should be there those crosses were premature and overcooked and he is not slow he is quite quick and couldn’t get to them. Also zirkzee goes to the cutback spot more than the front or back post so having 2 different profile of striker will take time and make it tougher on players who aren’t used to crossing as much as they should have been and for dalot on his off foot anyways. It will just take time for both the crossers and the strikers and even 10s to adapt when we did very little crossing under ten hag.
can't be that harsh on bayandir, people need to understand match fitness, along side many other factors contributes to a player's performance, he was bought as the second choice keeper to play less important matches like these, but through out the entire ten hag era he would play onana in matches bayandir naturally should start, no match fitness, no game time under his belt, muscle memory all these are factors, i agree he could've been better, but 3 out of 4 goals were also a result of individual defensive errors too, so i don't think it's fair at all to blame it all on bayandir.
That De Gea fella you're mugging off is actually having a better season than any of our keepers lol. De Gea has played 12 league games, conceded 8, kept 6 clean sheets and believe it or not but De Gea has even bagged himself an assist this season lol. I wish we had someone half as good as De Gea tbh.
I think this was one of worse Amorim's games as of now. I would have subbed off Lindelof for Amad early on. Put him in the 10/winger spot, Antony on the left wingback position, Mazra at RCB. Yoro at CCB. Or just put Maguire in there, not Evans. I think Amorim shouldve rested Mazra really and play Antony at the RWB, at least for some time. Its clearly not working for him at the 10/inside forward spot
Blaming the goalie for those goals is truly beyond moronic lmao the first shot was deflected on its way in and he did well to even get a hand on it and the goal from the corner he was fouled on. You need to get a serious grip dude
There's no way Bayindir is better than Heaton, I refuse to believe it. He hasnt played much obviously but he's massively screwed up each opportunity he's had.
Mazraoui didn't play that well for me, you can see everytime Antony touched the ball, he had 3 defenders on and Mazraoui was nowhere, he stayed to deep offering no help, I get it criticizing Antony is the norm, but he had 3-4 players on him every single time
Dalot was shocking. We're freeing him up constantly and he's wasting everything. We all want Yoro to do well but he was nowhere close to a 7. Not great on the ball and partially responsible for at least 1 goal. A good rule of thumb should be, if you concede 4 goals, no CBs are a 7 unless we should've conceded 10. The midfield balance is a dm who can pass and a dlp who can defend. We're constantly stuck with CMs who can only do half a job, whether its Ugarte or Eriksen. We lost. These scores are far too generous.
Bruno - frustrating to watch, constant Hollywood balls that failed Dalot - garbage, no energy Antony - utter horseshit. Got in front of his man on a couple of occasions but still lost the ball. Didn't do anything at all.
I don't agree with your Amorim score! I agree he's surely going to make a big impact in the future but to treat a quarter final in a cup tournament as one of his "experiments" I think was a mistake and poor by him. Ultimately that decision lost us the game - only 5 out of 10! If Amad and Onana had started the game United would have surely won against a poor Spurs site who scored almost every chance they got. I know Onana has also made mistakes recently but Bayindir was very poor and United didn't create much in the first half without Amad although I think Eriksen should have scored. Amad came on with United 3-0 down winning the game 3-1 with him on the pitch although also credit to Zirkzee who had his best performance in a United shirt. No need to lose in a cup competetion which should have also at least given United a semifinal against Liverpool. I would rather had rested Amad against Bournemouth because the league is already a lost cause in my opinion with no realistic chance of a top 4/5 spot anymore.
We won the league cup under ETH. He played a full strength team in every match and we ended the season barely crawling over the line with a whole bunch of injuries and poor performances that carried on into the next season. Amorim is absolutely right to treat the league cup as the least important competition we play in. We need a two legged semi final like a hole in the head. It’s good for giving minutes to younger players, squad players and players returning from injury. That is exactly how Fergie treated it. Do you know that United lost 3-0 at home to Bradford in the 93/4 league cup with players in all those categories - the season in which Fergie won his first double. And Amorim has nothing like the squad depth Fergie had. League and Europa are all that counts this season.
"No service" 3 perfect crosses and a through ball from Bruno that 8/10 strikers bury. 🤖 Bullied by Archie Gray and Dragusin (After Wout Faes and Kiwior). For 72m that should get you shipped to the Danish farmside) 💀
The bias from the paddock lads is mad Bayindir made a few good saves, was fouled for the last goal, wasn't to blame for Martinez hospital back heel pass and hasn't had any game time since he joined meaning he has no match fitness and game rhythm but he gets a 3 when we've seen Rashford get 6.5s this season after he's spent 90minutes wandering around the pitch sulking, unable to make passes, unable to beat defenders and just generally being a mard arse....gotta do better with the equality ste lad.
Martinez probably deserves just as bad as a rating as the goalie, two goals mostly were his fault. And while we win and lose as a team that needs to be said, it needs to be better from him.
The more I see Martinez in this system the more I just want him starting in the middle of the 3 as the QB/point guard type of role in build up. His ball playing is elite. His getting beat consistently in the channels and not having support on both sides is worrying.
The central defender has to be an aerial presence and Martinez is anything but that. Honestly, we just need a better CB than him who is actually big enough for the premier league.
7.5 / 10 for Amorim are you kidding!!!!!!!!!!! His substitutions almost saved his stupid starting 11 - WHY change the keeper - WHY play Antony ahead of Amad (or anyone) - it was win and you're through game - losing shouldn't be an option - Spurs are shite.
I know it’s hard not to be bias sometimes and howson is no exception, but his rating and opinion on this game for mazroui is wack. And I say that as someone that has been as hyped as Ste has been about him since he joined. But… he was fuking awful this game. He gave the ball away so many times! I only saw antony give it away more, and Ste should’ve made more of an effort to call this out! It’s not about getting on an individual players back, but you are doing Individual Player Ratings. Be Completely Honest, mate.
Ste the second goal the defence were as much to blame and his nervousness will come from not being played... And his defence in front were awful. You've a set liking of certain players and you always will have. Not neutral at all. Given the chance and more game time he would probably be just as good as that biscuit wrists that's in net week in week out.. You talk rubbish at times, sorry but you do.
Sky showed Antony pre game in the warm up, close up you could see he had about ten ear rings in, all dangling, where is his head at? He believes he is the main character in a film. Worth around 10 million max, needs to step down to a clown league
Yoro was promising? Watch their 2nd goal back. He gets completely caught up watching Son and doubles up on him when he is already being defended by Mazraoui and lets the runner go. They end up having a completely free pass across the box that Martinez doesn't deal with and they score from it. It wasn't the only time he did it, either. It was just the only time we got punished for it. He was woeful.
@@thebiglebrowski3695 He made some mistakes but he wasn’t woeful. Ball playing he was progressive and made some good tackles. Nothing to rave about but you’d hope with more minutes and experience he can develop into a top cb.
Sorry man but Yoro was really awesome I thought. I saw him muscle players out numerous times, run back and beat attackers to the ball, and his passing was just great. Don't see it, sorry!
Your right Stee! Yoro’s way to defend and standing still when Spurs does a simple overlap is really really good defending. It’s a rookie mistake by a rookie. Stee maybe should try to watch with eyes who doesn’t always see the good in United. Just to be serious and not stupid at sometimes. But he makes the United fans happy when the results is so so poor 😅
We might need back sancho in this new system wit this coach. I think he'd b ideal for that left sided #10 role wit this fluid style of play. He's a creative player that can play out wide or in between the lines. Him and amad sound amazing if this coach can get him back. Rashy and garna aren't technical enough to play in tight spaces like sancho and amad, and that's y I think he'd finally get it right in a united shirt and this system
The club is paying the price for allowing ten hag freedom. 500 million spent on dutch and ajax players but didnt buy the good ones, picked amrabat over gravenberch, took antony over kudus, bought the worst keeper in the world for 45 million that was free transfer when ten hag joined but he waited 12 months to waste the club money. De ligt, lisandro play like steve cook and charlie daniels of bournemouth. The only good one has been hojlund which was overpriced and mazraoui and even he was rinsed by old and washed up son just now. Imagine that “over the hill” son would still be our best attacking player. Zirkzee looks like a league 1 striker, looking as slow and cumbersome as lyndon dykes and those lower league strikers
"Eriksen has had a great season"??By what standards?He's been ok on a few occasions when coming into the team,but come on.What are we doing here.Just think you over stretch on the positive a touch,enjoy your content though.
@@jamesmcgrath1342I’m not Rashford fc just feel he’s a scapegoat while the likes on Mount,shaw,Lindelof,Antony etc get away with being shit and also don’t tell me to support another team when I know for a fact I’ve been to more games than u lad…
6.5 for Bruno and a 5 for Martinez is hilarious. Both of those guys weren’t higher than a 3. Absolute dogshit performance and Assmus?? Oh mannn, he’s the worst one that started. Gave us nothing. No hold up, no movement, no IQ, NOTHING! He’s worst than zirkzee
I feel like the "key pass" stat doesn't do justice to Antony. I think he made arguably the best pass of the game that didn't lead to a shot cause Bruno's left foot is the equivalent of Antony's right, and he has the speed of Jonny Evans.
This game just proves the value of de ligt. Leader, good aerially and is physical enough
I watched Ugarte playing for his national team and was very impressed. He hasn't disappointed! Just a blue collar worker.
more than just a worker though, also silky smooth on the ball when he needs to be. very difficult for the opponent to press
I love watching mazroui man, he's one of the few players that i feel confident when he has the ball.
For me, Amorim is the first manager post Fergie where you can see and feel the same sort of hunger and bloody mindedness that Ferguson had when he arrived from Scotland. They are also both intelligent. Ferguson had already had success in Scotland, but United was the big stage to prove himself, and he knew it. I think Amorim feels the same. I also think he has no fear of the job. I think the fact he is Ineo's' guy means they will back him as much as they are financially able to so without breaking the rules. It wouldn't be good business not to. Personally I'm very hopeful for the future.
Leny yoro is very impressive player
there were 5 united defenders beside solanke for the first goal, solanke reacted while the 5 defenders didn't.
exactly, but everyone wants to blame every goal on bayandir.
@@ahk.1540 what goalkeeper saves a shot and lets it rebound back into his own box???? cant blame the defense but yourself in that moment
Eriksen doesn’t have the legs anymore. You could see how easily Spurs beat the press in the 1st half because Eriksen could jump to the next player. That said, as a free transfer, he was a great signing
Regarding the team rotation, this is part of Rubens idea. Don't think that is just an audition he gives to players. He needs to keep rotating because:
1. To keep physicality levels high, players need to rest from time to time, and have minutes during matches to be fit at any given time;
2. To keep players feeling part of something, morality, confidence etc...
In Sporting we had one of the shortest squads in the league, but with the right players. That's what made that team to feel as a family where everyone has a sense of purpose.
I'm cheering for Man Utd! Let's go!
Thought the first half was pretty excellent apart from the mistakes and the final third. Pressing and pressure on Spurs was great. Very Promising.
I only think Bayendir was to blame for the 4th goal. He clearly thought it was swerving over and didn’t react in time (even if the VAR would’ve saved him in the prem). The first goal was a normal save of a swerving shot and ALL our players were flat footed.
United should sign Bastoni. One of the best cb in the world and would fit this system perfectly. Give Martinez some competition
Will inter sell? I wonder how much he would cost...
I'd love best in class signings, but the reality is we've got budget constraints.
I agree LCB is a spot we need strengthening. Especially with Shaws injury record and we're losing a few CBs for no fee as their contracts run out.
Bastoni is around €70mil, I'd rather spread what ever budget we have out over a few positions.
I'd go for Inacho at Sporting. Also an aggressive LCB. He's a similar, aggressive style of defender to Martinez. Price is around €45mil.
What do you think of Inacho?
@@dustinmccrindle343 Inacio is the most likely signing especially with our connections to Sporting via Amorim and our own history with that club.
There are a dearth of quality LCBs at the moment.
Lukeba from Leipzig looks like he could be quality, but also would be quite pricey
@@dustinmccrindle343 definitely Inacio is a good option, he is very much capable of playing out from the back and looks like he has the engine in him to play in PL. He can be a good one for Man U
I'd sell Licha if we could upgrade on Bastoni. Otherwise, I think we need to focus on other areas, particularly wingbacks, striker, inside forwards. These are more important if you ask me
If Tom Heaton had played United would have won.
Clairvoyant?
Politics wouldn't have allowed Heaton to play ahead of Bayindir.
5/10 for Martinez is GENEROUS Ste! He’s been so bad defensively for us this season and was almost directly at fault for 2/4 goals
You sussed him now yeah lol
I'm surprised the ref allowed that corner goal. His hand was clearly held. Minus that goal, we would have drawn, and who knows after that? We definitely had the upper hand
I'm not surprised at anything with refs anymore....
Mainoo has now being targeted whenever he has the ball. Teams know that you have to get 2 or 3 players on him and bully him. He adapts to it during games and will be more physical the older he gets, but right now he maybe needs to be allowed to drop deeper to get the ball, or play quicker to avoid being pressed.
Anyone else remember when we had the Argentinian number 1 as our number 2 GK? My how times have changed ay! Looking forward to Rubin Amorim being able to cook.
We had the best 2 keeper in the league and treated him badly
Bruno lost procession 16 times! How bad is that Steve? I’m lost for words!
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That's not actually that bad for Bruno. He loses it 20+ times a game usually.
It's not even bad at all
Seriously ! How does he always get away with it ! He’s the “star player” and the “captain” but it’s ok if he continuously every single game gives the ball away ! Why why why does he always get away with it. And then he bitches at other players when they misplace or miss a chance when that’s all he does 🤬 sick of him! Sell him , thing is nobody wants him expect for smaller clubs. No top club would take Bruno he’s a liability
Would have loved to see Juan Mata as a 10 in this system.
Prime mata sure utd mata would not be able to press fast enough
@qasimmajid1772 fairs
Good things came out of this game
We can't keep playing the wing backs every game. It's the most physically demanding position. We defo need cover in Jan.
3 is generous for the keeper. Never want to see him in a United shirt again
Nous had a stink bomb yesterday, numerous times gave the ball away in key areas and looked super leggy. 6.5/10 is ultra generous
eriksen ranking unfair, at least a 6 imo, very instrumental with a couple line breaking passes that made a couple of our early openings in the 1st half. got on the end of stuff and should’ve converted.
His passing was fine but their midfield was all over until the subs came on then the game changed.
All over us*
LM is a weird one. The stature is a massive problem but I see him as someone that will be able to adjust with the right wingback. He's an intelligent player and it's so important to have someone slice up a team with one pass from the back and keeping the opposition on edge.
I think Amorim prioritized the Bournemouth game, and that was why he rested key players, he played enough of the first choice players to give us a chance but it never came off, they looked exactly as they are, second rate, the first half performance shows the huge lack of depth in the squad.
Why rest Onana, he's a goalie. Makes no sense when you do not have a strong backup
@@andrewoconnell8506 I would say he needed to rest him, he has had 2-3 howlers in goal recently, he needs to reflect and regroup, the pressure is immense, United have traditionally played second tier goal keepers in the Carabao before, do you remember Sergio Romero? It never came off because Bayindir just did not show he is a Manchester United player.
@@ozzysinger6755 he's had 2 howlers but I wouldn't have dropped him. Been playing v well this season bar those errors
There was never anything about this GK that should have recommended him to any club more less to United
Left hand side of the team is so weak, need a lcb lwb and left 10.
And a lcb.
@@johnpaulnoone3071 And a lcb.
I will tell you why😅 1. The first one was a,really well hit shot and noone followed in. 2. Try catching a ball when someone even touches you rarm a little. He clearly wanted to catch it. Experts after the event in both instances.
I didn’t even know the backup keepers name until last night. Now I wish I didn’t.
Eriksen best player in first half
Ericksen and Casemiro are a class midfield....Ten Hag won the FA Cup with that midfield combination. For some reason they are being pensioned off now.
Loved some of the positive passes from yoro though to maino
Good Video Ste 👍
Quarter Final Cup Game! I was expecting a stronger starting line up and then sub once we had a lead 5.5/10 for Amorim
As bad as Antony was, I simply do not understand why Amorim played him in the 10. 🤔
His recent cameos - which actually weren't as bad as we would usually expect - were in the wing-back role, so the logical decision would have been to give him a START in that same role, and see if there is anything there. 🤷♂️
Instead, Amorim kind of threw him to the wolves by playing him in the 10, because not only is Antony a winger who prefers some space on the ball, but also he usually hugs the touchline, so being positioned centrally was NEVER going to work for him. 😕
Not sure why everyone thinks this is Amorim not knowing his best 11. It’s clear to me that this is his way of creating that team spirit with everyone feeling that they are contributing. He keeps emphasising that football is a team game and this is clearly a huge part of his philosophy. Also the style of football he plays demands constant energy so players being rested and rotated is non negotiable.
I think you were harsh on this. I agree with the keeper, but I have no worries about Martinez and Lind didn't do much but, did nothing wrong either.
Erik, I'd only play ACM.
Other than that there were no stand out performances on our team other Ugarte and Amed again, imo. I consider Tottenham's attack one of the best out there and that's what cost us this time.
Finaly someone who dont be hating on Martinez
All our goals under the manager we from pressing now that’s great but not good enough we need to actully creat from open play imo .. yes cut backs but talking more though the middle
I think I am going to like Yoro, bro. I just love his composure on the ball and off it
Might be time to test Martinez Ugarte in midfield. Probably only after we get a new CB in though.
I was surprised with the selection in first place with players needing minutes i expected casa ,malacia,mcguire and zirkzee to of started .... Rasmus needs more movement stands still far too much doesnt make it had to be marked and droppinng back instead of attacking the goal
2 goals due to bayandir and the other 2 Martinez, the difference amad and mainoo make to this team is crazy.
Seeing Yoro play make me believe why Madrid are the Greatest team in the world..coz bro was way too comfortable💫💯
Rasmus is a worry. Lacks the fundamentals as a striker. Touch is poor, can't hold up or link play, and off the ball movement is a lot to be desired. Year on year improvement is minimal. At best, he is a backup. We deperately need a proper striker.
Stes waited all week to go back on the Antony attack. He didn't have a great game, but passed the eye test with ease. Several great moments with the press and link play. Chasing lost causes and putting in work. A 4.5 when Martinez is getting a 5 is criminal, Martinez was pathetic and directly involved in us conceding.
One minute Ste is telling people you can't just rely on stats the next he's cherry picking them to insult a player he hates on a personal level. It's embarrassing. Be better you clown.
Edit: He also then gives Garnacho a 6 FFS. Are you for real? The guy did nothing when he came on, ran the ball out of play from good positions. Refused to chase any lost causes. Utter dross. Ste used to be worth watching but he's now a part of the problem.
Garnacho and Antony did nothing. Garnachos decline is a bit worrying
@@andrewoconnell8506 again he didn't have a great game. But he switched play well, kept possession well, decent pass accuracy and got back to cover when needed. Relentlessly ran making space and closing passing lanes.
Garnacho was pathetic when he came on. Literally did nothing. I watched him walk as a ball ran out of play at least twice!
I'm not saying Antony should get 8-9/10 but he sure as hell should have been above Garnacho and Martinez.
Ste needs to grow up, letting his personal agenda cloud his judgement. Used to be one of the few on Paddock that would talk sense. Now he's up there with Jay and Adam with the amount of bias waffle he comes up with.
I agree that there is probably a bit of negative bias towards Antony, however, he was very poor to be fair. Can't fault his effort, but the lack of quality at times is shocking.
Relentlessly ran 😂😂 fid you watch the same game? Antony was absolutely shite apart from two little bounce touches
@@grocno796 saying he was very poor is too extreme tbh. He was ok. He's clearly shot of confidence and yet the kid refuses to give up. Sick of content creators and our fans backing clowns like Rashford and Garnacho then piling in on the lads that never stopped trying Maguire/Casemiro/Antony.
Disagree with the Mainoo rating but the rest were accurate
I think our crossing this game was very bad. Its good we are actually crossing the ball SOME instead of almost none but most of them came from dalot and bruno and they had okay pace but were to a space instead of to a player. Thats a byproduct of not getting heads up enough and seeing runs then over hitting those runs. I disagree with you saying rasmus should be there those crosses were premature and overcooked and he is not slow he is quite quick and couldn’t get to them. Also zirkzee goes to the cutback spot more than the front or back post so having 2 different profile of striker will take time and make it tougher on players who aren’t used to crossing as much as they should have been and for dalot on his off foot anyways. It will just take time for both the crossers and the strikers and even 10s to adapt when we did very little crossing under ten hag.
can't be that harsh on bayandir, people need to understand match fitness, along side many other factors contributes to a player's performance, he was bought as the second choice keeper to play less important matches like these, but through out the entire ten hag era he would play onana in matches bayandir naturally should start, no match fitness, no game time under his belt, muscle memory all these are factors, i agree he could've been better, but 3 out of 4 goals were also a result of individual defensive errors too, so i don't think it's fair at all to blame it all on bayandir.
Keeper reminded me of De Gea *shudder*
That De Gea fella you're mugging off is actually having a better season than any of our keepers lol.
De Gea has played 12 league games, conceded 8, kept 6 clean sheets and believe it or not but De Gea has even bagged himself an assist this season lol. I wish we had someone half as good as De Gea tbh.
I was just reading an interesting story and I know you going to love it, Good ol Gabby has been on talk sport stating amad is mediocre 😂😂😂
He really needs a well-check from the authorities.
I think this was one of worse Amorim's games as of now. I would have subbed off Lindelof for Amad early on. Put him in the 10/winger spot, Antony on the left wingback position, Mazra at RCB. Yoro at CCB. Or just put Maguire in there, not Evans. I think Amorim shouldve rested Mazra really and play Antony at the RWB, at least for some time. Its clearly not working for him at the 10/inside forward spot
Blaming the goalie for those goals is truly beyond moronic lmao the first shot was deflected on its way in and he did well to even get a hand on it and the goal from the corner he was fouled on. You need to get a serious grip dude
I want to see Kobs in the left side 10
There's no way Bayindir is better than Heaton, I refuse to believe it. He hasnt played much obviously but he's massively screwed up each opportunity he's had.
Last time I was this early, Antony was still spinning around in a circle
He should try ballet as a career, cos he cannot play football
Don't think Amorim will let Bayindir be the FA Cup keeper - especially as we are facing Arsenal
Knowing how stubborn he is, he probably will 🤷🏻
@@andrewoconnell8506 Have some examples of how Amorim has been stubborn? Seems an odd assertion to make, with what we've seen so far.
Mazraoui didn't play that well for me, you can see everytime Antony touched the ball, he had 3 defenders on and Mazraoui was nowhere, he stayed to deep offering no help, I get it criticizing Antony is the norm, but he had 3-4 players on him every single time
Dalot was shocking.
We're freeing him up constantly and he's wasting everything.
We all want Yoro to do well but he was nowhere close to a 7. Not great on the ball and partially responsible for at least 1 goal.
A good rule of thumb should be, if you concede 4 goals, no CBs are a 7 unless we should've conceded 10.
The midfield balance is a dm who can pass and a dlp who can defend. We're constantly stuck with CMs who can only do half a job, whether its Ugarte or Eriksen.
We lost. These scores are far too generous.
Bruno - frustrating to watch, constant Hollywood balls that failed
Dalot - garbage, no energy
Antony - utter horseshit. Got in front of his man on a couple of occasions but still lost the ball. Didn't do anything at all.
Great leny yoro afcorce 7 or 8
I don't agree with your Amorim score! I agree he's surely going to make a big impact in the future but to treat a quarter final in a cup tournament as one of his "experiments" I think was a mistake and poor by him. Ultimately that decision lost us the game - only 5 out of 10! If Amad and Onana had started the game United would have surely won against a poor Spurs site who scored almost every chance they got. I know Onana has also made mistakes recently but Bayindir was very poor and United didn't create much in the first half without Amad although I think Eriksen should have scored. Amad came on with United 3-0 down winning the game 3-1 with him on the pitch although also credit to Zirkzee who had his best performance in a United shirt. No need to lose in a cup competetion which should have also at least given United a semifinal against Liverpool. I would rather had rested Amad against Bournemouth because the league is already a lost cause in my opinion with no realistic chance of a top 4/5 spot anymore.
We won the league cup under ETH. He played a full strength team in every match and we ended the season barely crawling over the line with a whole bunch of injuries and poor performances that carried on into the next season. Amorim is absolutely right to treat the league cup as the least important competition we play in. We need a two legged semi final like a hole in the head. It’s good for giving minutes to younger players, squad players and players returning from injury. That is exactly how Fergie treated it.
Do you know that United lost 3-0 at home to Bradford in the 93/4 league cup with players in all those categories - the season in which Fergie won his first double. And Amorim has nothing like the squad depth Fergie had.
League and Europa are all that counts this season.
good channel
Anthony should never start a game again
He did a ok job last night. Still want him gone though
"No service" 3 perfect crosses and a through ball from Bruno that 8/10 strikers bury. 🤖
Bullied by Archie Gray and Dragusin (After Wout Faes and Kiwior). For 72m that should get you shipped to the Danish farmside) 💀
Facts saying rasmus gets no service is the new staple
@@ricqolambert6346 It's been the staple for an entire year by people who don't actually watch the game. Never been a service issue.
Ok. You want a trophy?
The exact same people who are defending Antony right now are the ones who defended Donny van de Beek.
He's not that good. Get over it.
I dont know how you have even rated the keeper a 3... thats the baseline for a bad performance
Could see from the first kick off that bayendir wasnt the man for the job. First pass back to him and he shit himself and booted it out
The negative comments on here are hilarious. Apparently all the players are crap.haha. we deserved to win that game. We had spurs onntoast. Wise up.
The bias from the paddock lads is mad Bayindir made a few good saves, was fouled for the last goal, wasn't to blame for Martinez hospital back heel pass and hasn't had any game time since he joined meaning he has no match fitness and game rhythm but he gets a 3 when we've seen Rashford get 6.5s this season after he's spent 90minutes wandering around the pitch sulking, unable to make passes, unable to beat defenders and just generally being a mard arse....gotta do better with the equality ste lad.
Why did ten Hag buy bayindir????
Martinez probably deserves just as bad as a rating as the goalie, two goals mostly were his fault. And while we win and lose as a team that needs to be said, it needs to be better from him.
Ste , why dont You do a Howson vs ? This ManShitty / Pep downfall is not being talked about enough by the media! C'mon! Do it Ste 😂
The more I see Martinez in this system the more I just want him starting in the middle of the 3 as the QB/point guard type of role in build up.
His ball playing is elite. His getting beat consistently in the channels and not having support on both sides is worrying.
The central defender has to be an aerial presence and Martinez is anything but that. Honestly, we just need a better CB than him who is actually big enough for the premier league.
How does Martinez get a better rating than bayindir? He was at fault for 2 goals
He did other things, with the ball. Bayindir did nothing helpful.
Rashford 10/10
The goalie is gone. You won't see him again.
7.5 / 10 for Amorim are you kidding!!!!!!!!!!! His substitutions almost saved his stupid starting 11 - WHY change the keeper - WHY play Antony ahead of Amad (or anyone) - it was win and you're through game - losing shouldn't be an option - Spurs are shite.
Wrong of ste to do Antony dirty and glaze garnacho so much 6 for garna he was way worse than Antony toxic creator tbh probably my last watch of him
You won't be missed, and to see Garnacho was "way worse than Antony" in that match is just sheer stupidity.
I know it’s hard not to be bias sometimes and howson is no exception, but his rating and opinion on this game for mazroui is wack. And I say that as someone that has been as hyped as Ste has been about him since he joined.
But… he was fuking awful this game. He gave the ball away so many times! I only saw antony give it away more, and Ste should’ve made more of an effort to call this out!
It’s not about getting on an individual players back, but you are doing Individual Player Ratings. Be Completely Honest, mate.
Bayindir’s transfer to United has gotta be studied 😂
Haha he only one game olaying
I don't see eriksen rating.
He gave him a 5/10. I'd have gone a little higher
@@scottsinner7530 thx i didn't see it. Yeah i thought he was better than bruno
Love spurs fans talking shit online…
Our worst era post Fergie would be their most successful 😂
Ste the second goal the defence were as much to blame and his nervousness will come from not being played... And his defence in front were awful. You've a set liking of certain players and you always will have. Not neutral at all. Given the chance and more game time he would probably be just as good as that biscuit wrists that's in net week in week out.. You talk rubbish at times, sorry but you do.
Sky showed Antony pre game in the warm up, close up you could see he had about ten ear rings in, all dangling, where is his head at? He believes he is the main character in a film.
Worth around 10 million max, needs to step down to a clown league
Yeah he's a little short lifter
Yoro was promising? Watch their 2nd goal back. He gets completely caught up watching Son and doubles up on him when he is already being defended by Mazraoui and lets the runner go. They end up having a completely free pass across the box that Martinez doesn't deal with and they score from it. It wasn't the only time he did it, either. It was just the only time we got punished for it. He was woeful.
Does that make him not promising?
@@thebiglebrowski3695 He made some mistakes but he wasn’t woeful. Ball playing he was progressive and made some good tackles. Nothing to rave about but you’d hope with more minutes and experience he can develop into a top cb.
Sorry man but Yoro was really awesome I thought. I saw him muscle players out numerous times, run back and beat attackers to the ball, and his passing was just great. Don't see it, sorry!
@@unlikelycontender2229 Watch the second goal back
@harjeetbhakar7992 I mean he is young, so hopefully he develops, but right now, that performance was a 5/10
Is that a filter or lighting? Because it looks very unnatural Stephen.
I think you're handsome
sell bayindir awful signing in the first place
Your right Stee! Yoro’s way to defend and standing still when Spurs does a simple overlap is really really good defending. It’s a rookie mistake by a rookie. Stee maybe should try to watch with eyes who doesn’t always see the good in United. Just to be serious and not stupid at sometimes. But he makes the United fans happy when the results is so so poor 😅
We might need back sancho in this new system wit this coach. I think he'd b ideal for that left sided #10 role wit this fluid style of play. He's a creative player that can play out wide or in between the lines. Him and amad sound amazing if this coach can get him back. Rashy and garna aren't technical enough to play in tight spaces like sancho and amad, and that's y I think he'd finally get it right in a united shirt and this system
Will u stop havin arguments with invisble trolls on twitter. Thought u were a man, but u bite like an arsenal fan. Ty 2.0
Stephen
Please update your photo thumbnail... you're slim now... Delete yourself and put a new one in.😊
Wrong, rashford had much worse performances several times this season then the keeper
That’s a bit unnecessary
Such a feed of lies😂😂😂
Said one of the worst performances not the worst
The club is paying the price for allowing ten hag freedom. 500 million spent on dutch and ajax players but didnt buy the good ones, picked amrabat over gravenberch, took antony over kudus, bought the worst keeper in the world for 45 million that was free transfer when ten hag joined but he waited 12 months to waste the club money. De ligt, lisandro play like steve cook and charlie daniels of bournemouth. The only good one has been hojlund which was overpriced and mazraoui and even he was rinsed by old and washed up son just now. Imagine that “over the hill” son would still be our best attacking player. Zirkzee looks like a league 1 striker, looking as slow and cumbersome as lyndon dykes and those lower league strikers
Started good. But then you just ran with hate towards te end
"Eriksen has had a great season"??By what standards?He's been ok on a few occasions when coming into the team,but come on.What are we doing here.Just think you over stretch on the positive a touch,enjoy your content though.
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Rashford will be the fault for Martinez and Bayindir being shit last night by this fanbase…
Go and support rashord fc then mate we dont need "fans" like this.
@@jamesmcgrath1342I’m not Rashford fc just feel he’s a scapegoat while the likes on Mount,shaw,Lindelof,Antony etc get away with being shit and also don’t tell me to support another team when I know for a fact I’ve been to more games than u lad…
6.5 for Bruno and a 5 for Martinez is hilarious. Both of those guys weren’t higher than a 3. Absolute dogshit performance and Assmus?? Oh mannn, he’s the worst one that started. Gave us nothing. No hold up, no movement, no IQ, NOTHING! He’s worst than zirkzee