WEBER WORKSHOPS BIRD: What It's All About
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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Aeropress with Fellow Prismo Attachment
Cuptimo
Wacaco Pipamoka
250mL Pyrex French Press
NextLevel Pulsar
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Could you try use fine sand and water to see if fine grounds get disturbed? Might not be the best thing for such an expensive brewer
quick thing. I used a plastic filter holder for good portion of my life so I understand that you said it got out brewed by all the other.
but what changed my life (which suprised me a lot) is when i got a ceramic filter holder.
it might not sound like a big change but it still makes some of my favorite coffee.
other than that I now have new list of coffee brewers I have to get.
thanks.
Hi Lance, really love your content and purchased BIRD and just got it delivered. But sadly, with the same price, they changed the production method to the brewing basket from fully beautifully billet CNC to MIM ( Metal injection molding) with a rough sand blasting finish. Although the functionality is still the same, but much cheaper looking compared to yours showed in the video. And all the market pics and videos on the official website still showing CNC ones. What a shame.
I’m in the same boat 😔 I was excited to see the same product as in the video but was disappointed when I opened mine up.
Thanks you just saved me $350, I honestly think lots of these modern add a lot of complexity in both brewing and cleaning but without actually changing much on what can be achieved on both much cheaper more simple brewers. It’s living on the grass is always greener, the market has been overflowed with all sort of brewers many of them not really delivering something new. I already wasted enough on all these promises and always just resort back to the old ones like v60 and Aeropress, if it ain’t broken don’t fix it as the saying goes.
I agree, and It's why I appreciate what Lance said: it's a showpiece, it's to have fun, it will brew good coffee but you can do that in other and simpler ways. So if this gives you the show you want and the joy you want, great. If you're just looking to brew great coffee with little hassle, it's not for you. And both of these approaches are totally valid. It may even be that one person may want both approaches depending on the day, and that's part of the joy of making coffee, whether it's this brewer or the many others out there. Have fun and find the stuff you like.
I that that second statement might actually be Weber Workshop’s mission statement.
Totally agree, I find with V60, Aero, French, and Chemex, I'm almost never bored and always have something new to experiment with related to beans, grind size, etc. All those combined isn't even half the cost of the Bird.
@@brianchu8147 Absolutely. Hell, I've got an Aeropress, a Clever Dripper, and a large assortment of various flat bed and conical brewers (V60, Kono, CAFEC Flower, Orea v3, Origami...) and I'm having plenty of fun. But I sure do appreciate all the ingenuity going in to fun brewers for people to enjoy. Sometimes we can overly try to min/max our caffeine production when we can instead just have fun making tasty bean water and respect the work designers and engineers put into the diverse hobby.
I didn't expect them to flip the Bird right onto the market like this.
Omg so good
Bro, what is good.... Conceptional error at 350 ?! 14:09 you even being skeptical, tbh i am skeptical about the coarser grinds. Why should i have to worry at this price range, that the damn thing works, or could be designed to work :') Why is there any kind of any questions at this price range. Love the materials, i hate plsatic, but still can not beat the Aeropress at this point, Not to mention if they come up with something that is not plastic.... I was in love with this brewer, but after your review.... Bro 350.... I live in europe with tax and shipping it will be the most expensive thing, that is kinda "not working" as it could be. I think i am so dissappointed in this thing. :( Bad design.... nice materials. I am sad. @@LanceHedrick Thank you for the honest review
Man... The B roll in this was next level! Thanks for the unbiased review as always!
Hugo is a magician
All this vacuum brew action makes me really want you to do a Hario Syphon video. I've never really seen it covered by the major coffee UA-cam channels but it would make for an interesting, dramatic video
2nd that - the best (albeit fidgety) way to brew coffee. Brewing with cloth filter is also a game changer it really makes a difference in the cup. Velvety, clean, but with the oils...I have a Hario 3-cup and a Yama 5-cup; both make excellent coffee. Only on the weekends tho; clever or aeropress for weekdays.
I am brewing with Hario Syphon and just got my BIRD few days ago, I will say you are absolutely right, the mouthfeel is almost identical if you are not using the paper filter just the metal one. I might want to try using a syphon cloth filter with BIRD for fun.
I'm not a coffee person but I love watching coffee content. I love your sense od humour, when you sing, I love editing, I love music in these videos, I love these cinematic shots used in videos. Keep going, keep pushing, keep bending that topic with your knowledge. Love the channel, love ya!
Wow! Thank you so much! This comment brought a smile to my face
i wasn't a coffee person but the more I watched Hendrick, Hoffman, and Eckroth the more I got into it... now i have multiple brewers.... just fair warning
All I can say after watching the video is: Well, it is Weber and it is indeed Weber
I remember seeing this on Tanner Colson's Instagram and thinking "Webers gonna charge $300+ for this and get a new load of suckers for it aren't they"
Can't wait for the Aeropress video! It's turned into my daily brewer. Looking forward to seeing how I can make it better!
Any reason you prefer it over a pour over? I have an Aeropress and have used it in various ways to make some tasty coffee, but I still find that a pour over is so much simpler and produces great coffee that I can't find the Aeropress to be a daily brewer. But I'm very interested to hear about other views on that.
Hello aeropress-cult member.
I'm also looking forward to it.
@error.418 - I like that it's not stressful. It's hard to make a bad cup in the aeropress, so if I have an off morning because I have no coffee yet, it's still pleasant.
Pour over is so much easier to screw up when sleep deprived. I feel the aeropress is French press unstressful, but with a better / cleaner flavor.
@error.418 Largely due to the simplicity and the versatility. It's hard to really mess up a cup in the aeropress if you keep your grind size and ratios in order. So much so that my wife (who was never a coffee drinker) has started making coffee with it for herself most mornings. I still love pourover as well, but I can take the aeropress with me on the road and get a solid mug-full or near espresso strength if I want something a little more stout.
I know there was a lot of feedback on the editing style last few videos, I personally wasn't a fan, but wasn't about to criticise free content. the editing & overall pace of this video is really enjoyable , for me at least. Thanks for all the information you put out.
Thank you! So much! Great feedback
Thank you for making this video. I was not on board before, and I'm still not, but this helped me understand it a little better. It's still just immersion with agitation, put through a paper filter. That said, it's a beautiful piece that looks fun to use.
And just a side note on putting french press through a V60 - it drains much faster if you stir all the contents together in the french press, then immediately pour all the contents into the V60. This allows the larger particles to form some sort of filter bed, which prevents some of the clogging. It's what I like to do with cold brew too.
I enjoy my Espro French Press. Micro filter with no paper waste. Easy and quick brewing.
Some studies over the last decade have suggested that coffee oils (that pass through metal filters but not paper) are not good for us.
Beyond that, paper filtration allows more clarity. I'm not against French press coffee, but I do prefer a paper filter.
Plus paper is biodegradable and DOES grow on trees.
@@kruks "Plus paper is biodegradable and DOES grow on trees." While mostly true, the processing of wood pulp to make paper does create a lot of waste, especially when it comes to chemically treating the paper like bleaching. I don't know if you've ever smelled a paper mill, but there's a lot going on to produce paper. So it's not as perfect as it may seem. That's not to say stop using paper filters, I use tons and agree with your take for my personal enjoyment, but let's not fool ourselves.
@@kruksGreta in comments!
These are so underated in our community.
Such a cool design. I could definitely see myself picking one up just for the process involved. I've used a lot of the other machines you compared the bird with, but none seem nearly as fun. Great video!
i LOVE the Pipamoka. Your assessment was spot on and once you get used to it, it brews the most consistently sweet and delicious coffee. I have about 30-40 brewers and if you forced me to pick one, I’m probably picking up the pipamoka. Great video!!!
Are you following the official recipe or a different one? I own a Pipamoka but haven't used it much. It seemed like a lot of hassle for not much benefit, but I'd be happy too give it a second chance. Any preparation and cleaning tips?
Thanks!
Cuptimo shines at lower ratios and then diluting the cup afterwards to achieve a desired tds. I’d strongly suggest brewing at around 1:13.5-1:14. You might be incredibly surprised by how amazing those cups can be. I’ve been loving it 😍
I've done those ratios for sure. I've had it for like 8 months or longer
@@LanceHedrick no surprise there lol thanks for the input!
Cool reverse French press. Nothing beats the simplicity of the French press, no filter needed and all it needs is a good rinse.
its a goddamn aeropress. and i dont think people who buy weber care about price honestly
@pieppy6058 kinda a bastard child of the French press and aeropress. Your right, it's definitely mainly made so you can show it off.
Nice video Lance! A few months ago, like you, I tried sandwiching a Pulsar filter under the mesh filter in my French Press. I put a little hole in the middle for the plunger shaft so I could actually “install” it in the filter sandwich. It made a decent cup and definitely aided in cleanliness, I just don’t know if it was worth the extra effort and cleanup. The Bird definitely seems like a nice piece of gear, and there is no denying Weber build quality, it just seems like all these new brewers aren’t drastically better enough to make them worth investing in. I’ve been fortunate enough to try some of the newer brewers to the market, but I keep finding myself coming back to a V60 style or Orea/ flat bottom brewer, or Pulsar if I want an immersion brew. As usual it’s always nice to hear your perspective on the leading edge coffee stuff!!
This is very cool and we all know the people who really enjoy French press will buy it. The functionality and engineering will help sell it to the coffee brewer collector as I don’t remember there being anything as fancy for a French press option. Kudos to Weber this brewer is neat and I wouldn’t mind asking for one for Christmas from my Wife.
Lance can you create a brewer that is a rubik's cube and somehow brews the coffee inside it as you get closer to solving it and releases it once you do?
Omg. Yes.
The Arubica brewer
That'd be awesome, I'm just imagining Max Park breaking the world record for fastest solve and cup of coffee brewed at the same time.
Hopefully not spilling hot coffee over your hands.
@@christophergreen2106 amazing
I use a french press and it works fine, but the thing I really enjoy about brewing is the process. The process with the Bird looks so satisfying, thats the real reason I want one!
Lots of people thank you for your honesty in reviews and that’s true for sure but I think it’s also important to realize your awareness when it comes to reviewing things. You’re always putting things in context. No, of course this isn’t going to revolutionize your cup in a way that makes the coffee worth this price alone, but you still put it up against some other immersion methods to let us know how it stacks up and where it shines. And you remind us that this is a luxury product with heirloom production quality and a lot of R&D to back it up. It’s hard for us watching from home to understand how something like this feels to use, and that’s really a key aspect of this. Honestly if I had the cash I would love to own one just to be able to have that tactile experience.
Thanks for your video Lance. I’ve actually been using the Pipamoka for several years now, and really love using it. You can also buy a special lid for it that makes it leak proof. Kinda nice to easily brew right into my cup and throw it in my bag in the morning.
The Pipamoka is my work brewer of choice. Grind in the morning, hot water from the coffee dispenser at work. Good to go.
Add in that you can get two extra baskets for $20, and you can have 3 tasty cups a day very easily.
If you are concerned about the coffee at the bottom, why not drop the coffee into the brewer after you've put some water in? I imagine I would put about 1/3 to 1/2 the water in, drop the coffee in, add the remaining water... starting agitation, then use the top to give the whole thing a swirl and then let it sit/settle.
I have not watched the entire video at this point, but I am sure that there is no way it presents a good value. However, Weber is the king of making excessively machined and thoughtful products that everyoke will drool over despite bad value. The drooling inlcudes me; it's a gorgeous product.
It works really well and makes good coffee easy. Not going to raise the ceiling on taste potential but makes good coffee and is an absolute joy to use.
@@LanceHedrickgreat TL;DR
@@LanceHedrickToo much liturgy is required in its use. I bet you get bored of using it after a while. But I can understand that using it is enjoyable at the beginning.
It depends what you value
Weber is also famous for their atrocious customer service as thanks for all that money
Finally people are starting to use paper filters with french press. I always just use one of those 8-12 cup melitta flat bottom paper filters that you find at the grocery store. Makes a large amount of really great full body coffee consistently for cheap.
Out of interest, is a paper filter French press just not very similar to an aero press? Yes there is a metal filter it also needs to pass through, but it will pass through that after the paper filter so it shouldn’t make much/any difference.
@@RyanNicholls-w4wIt’s lower pressure. The Aeropress is sealed at the edge. With the paper filtered French Press, the water can pass through the filter as you press it
This was the biggest revelation of the video, for me, and something a lot more people can try if only because they’re likely to have one already
Great vid! I was just wondering how many different types of brewers were out there. Also playing with the idea of inventing something new. Going to pick up a Wacaco Pipamoka - first glimpse of it. Looks great for travel. Much appreciated.
I have it and it’s simply brilliant! For those who appreciate engineering, design, and well made objects, it’s absolutely worth it.
love the music. production on your videos has gotten so good
I'm going to buy all of these, just to sell them at a profit. I'm going to flip so many birds.
Winning comment
It's a french lift 😂
That's really funny. Hate when I miss low hanging fruit ha!
Well, that's a twist x)
@@Saucisse_Praxis love it 😂
I'm going to make a prediction before I watch the video that this thing makes pretty good coffee, possibly even very good coffee, but definitely not miles ahead of anything else.
Noice! While i know i couldnt afford it from first seeing it, i still was stoked to see your take on it.
Thank you! It's a fun tool but I don't think it warrants fomo
your videos are my bedtime stories… not only as i watch them naughtily before sleeping, but also all while dreaming of a far away land where i get to try all of these wonderful looking (tasting) things :) … thank you and good night!
A Carpenter would charge thousands for an exquisite dining table when you can get a table for a couple of hundred at a box store.
I'm glad there is a space for low-volume, high craft items in the coffee space. Even if it's not for me, it's fantastic for the guys(and gals) at Weber and good for them!
Even when people get upset at the prices (I do too), we need to remember that Weber isn't making products for everyone. They're trying to maximize beauty and functionality and that happens by using high quality materials and spending weeks and weeks on careful engineering and product design. I haven't used any of their gear personally, but based on reviews I've seen I'm willing to bet that any of their products would last for multiple decades at least.
@@loganmontgomery1955
Yea I agree. If I wanted to I could afford much of their gear (it would be a big purchase still, I'm not super wealthy) but I've pretty much always had a value-oriented mindset my whole life, so I rarely dip into the highly diminished returns of these markets. But almost every product category has them, and they often have an outsized impact on how the rest of the industry reacts to their ideas and innovation.
Well said. Both of you.
It costs as much as a basic espresso machine and twice as much as a flair lever action machine. There are so many better ways to enjoy making coffee.
Wow what a summary! You went above and beyond in your testing! Probably sold a lot of French presses too from people deciding to give that another look
I own a Timemore French Press which has a nice black casing and is good for travelling. Cost £20 and really can’t argue with it I would recommend it to anyone! Although I wouldn’t pay £300 for this Weber can fully appreciate their quality, tolerances and innovation for making high end coffee equipment. This is beautiful.
Very cool FP I had not seen before. A word of caution about travel with a glass carafe french press. Despite careful packing in a suitcase the carafe broke as airplane luggage. I since got a stainless steel carafe FP and no issues.
Thanks for the video, Lance! Was waiting to see your take on this Brewer.
I got intrigued by your French press technique. Made me super curious to try it at home. Which filter paper did you use?
Ditto.
Can't wait for the AeroPress video! 🤩
When this was announced I was considering buying one, even without knowing the price. I thought: it’s good to look at, it’ll probably be a great product, it can’t be THAT expensive. Treat yourself!
Yeah, it’s THAT expensive. $360 yikes! 😱 that’s about twice what I was hoping it’d cost.
Super helpful video Lance, especially how much time you took to compare w other options.
The Bird seems like a manual version of a Clover Brewer, but available for purchase, and $10k less expensive. Build quality looks to be excellent.
Looks like something i could spend ages playing with going up and down and have a great time without using it as a brewer. Looks so satisfying.
When they make the larger version are they going to call it Big Bird 🐦?
Weber: “what if the french press had a fidget spinner?”
re clever; I've been using your recipe from the switch or something from a few years back;
grounds in
wdt
50% of water through gabi b (or anything that can sort of drip water like espresso basket)
after water is in - use wdt needles to poke grounds from all of the sides which will result in coffee grounds surfacing (wdt the surface a bit to make it nice)
wait 4 minutes (sometimes i forget and it goes to 10-15 lol)
drain
I don't touch bed in this stage as it pretty firmly set
- option a : remove clever from the cup and add remaining 50% through gabi, wait 4 minutes and drain - immersion
- option b: keep clever on the cup add remaining 50% through gabi - percolation
high ey, every, single, time
with that said I'll get this weber thing for guest entertaining
Thumbs up because I love you, Lance, but I struggled all the way through trying to work out the problem the Weber designers were trying to solve... If the best thing going for this new product is that it's a joy to use, then I would ask why are people not finding enough joy in any of the other brewers? Do people really need to pay that much for joy? I guess they must... Look at how much rich people are spending on all their status-clutching things... When I brew coffee, I savour each sensorial moment from the opening of the bean container to the grinding right through to the final pour - whichever method I'm using, including espresso... and that's all before the drinking! Even if I need to be quick, I enjoy the process and try not to be rushed. I get the idea of Weber Bird joy, but there is so much joy to be had in any process that works well enough to solve the problem before us - in this case, how to extract a flavoursome and satisfying liquid from the roasted seed of the coffee fruit. This design concept is bordering on the ironic... It won't be long before someone makes a spoof of overengineering the simplicity of coffee extraction, if they haven't already. I'll stick with the wise maxim of 'beans before machines'... 🙏
Looks so tedious to clean. Forget the price tag, if it were the same price as something like the Hario Switch I'd still choose the Switch.
Thanks for the video, was looking forward to this. Posting for some engagement, otherwise I think a french press for $20 and the rest $340 on good coffee is money more wisely spend.
No argument from me!
Could you pour the water first when grinding fine, to get more agitation? Similar to a Clever brew, when sometimes you fill with water and then add the grounds last.
Just too fiddly. Put cup on scale, dose with ground coffee, and add water just off boil. Wait to cool or stir gently. Drink when temperature is right. Try to avoid drinking wet grounds at the bottom. Add a little water, slosh, and pour onto your lawn or garden. Keep your mornings simple. ;)
It's hard to do when there's a broomstick up your behind.
I love the clever because I can just throw the filter in my bin and it is ready to brew again. That cleaning part of coffeemaking should be part of the review
I saw clean up is similar to pulsar or French press. Don't feel the need to be overly redundant tbh
Great review. I may have to pick one up it looks very fun to use.
I am enjoying this shorter format, a little treat. Thanks
Tremendously helpful as always Lance, thank you! I'm not offended by the price insofar as it's a beautiful design, and, like all things Weber, beautifully machined. It's ok to own a few things that are more expensive than the task they perform because you enjoy the way they look and feel in your home. I imagine I'll stick with my Pulsar, but I certainly understand the appeal.
Always Always a good watch thank you and that Fancy French Press ??? wellllll what will they think of next
A decent middle-ground is the Espro P-series: fine mesh filters (plural), with the option of paper filters as well.
I appreciate what WW does though. Does a coffee brewing apparatus need this much attention to detail, build quality, and engineering? No. But I am sure glad someone is doing it and there are people with expendable income who can support it!
I agree! This is actually a great take. Thank you
PLEASSSSEEE do a video on siphon brewer! I've had some of my sweetest and best cups out of it!
Is that a flat max in the background!? Is there a review coming soon perhaps 🤞
awesome video shots, editing and the content too.. holy smokes great vid
As an old geezer I worked with years ago said about any over complicated version of a simple process "A lot of fucking about for fuck all" Flex product for showoffs which will sit on the shelf for people to see but will never get used.
Thank you Lance for confirming this is pretty much a gimmick for the price, sure it may be built very well but probably won't beat an aeropress for the price and the results, I'm specifically comparing to the aeropress because of the different brews you can get from it.
Initially I was concerned it brewed pale looking weak coffee after watching few videos..just got mine and was happily surprise the coffee it brewed was dark black with strong bold flavour and yet slightly less acidic compared to using my other brewing methods
Thank you for the excellent review as always. Part of the fun of coffee as hobby is the experience and it looks like this brewer deliver on that front. :)
Massively so. It is so so much fun
This product looks nice but it hasn't been tested enough and poses a grave risk of injury. More specifically, my spouse would kill me if I spent $300 on a french press.
What's going inside when stirring could be done by brewing already brewed coffee. This way it should be visible what's going on with the coffee while stirring.
Nice video btw. The Bird itself seems a little bit too fiddly for me, but it's definitely gorgeously manufactured.
Great video Lance ❤
Wow, I thought I was the only one who used the paper condom for the French press! I never bothered pressing it though, just wetted it and then poured. Very cool video btw, had no idea all these other vacuum gadgets existed.
Mainly an espresso drinker but maybe I could finish a bag with this every once and a while. It seems like a fun way to make good coffee with a different brewer.
Looks like a really nice brewer to have the most control over adigitation. Thought i was paying to much for SWORKS but i do like it ( you can press aeropress paper onto it for fun). Theres just something nice about being able to put some pressure,, so for now aeropress favorite still ( cant wait for glass version). Someone soon will combine all these features into one brewer?
It's a very well made product that seems fun to use. I don't see anything wrong with that. The price seems totally okay given all those precisely machined parts, thats really not cheap and you have very little gains from scaling production.
This is how I used my espro press for the longest time. The coffee it made was absolutely delicious but more effort than I wanted to do every morning.
The french pull method is a winner so this has real value to me. THIS mich though? Nah.
The brewing process looks like it would give similar tactile satisfaction to dunking a bag of tea in your mug while it brews. I can see how it would be enjoyable to use, and it is beautiful.
The experience alone completely justifies the price ❤
it is a work of art and looks premium but i'm okay with my Aeropress + Flow Control Filter Cap + combination of one stainlesss steel filter and one paper filter.
It's the coolest brewer I've ever seen. I'm getting one and hope to be an early adopter. Looks like a riot. I wish they would make a big one!
Did you get it? Do you enjoy it?
@@doctormoobbcI did. I’ve used it twice. It’s fiddly and kind of messy to clean up. Didn’t really blow me away taste wise. Taste similar to power over methods.
All goes down to “does it make a better coffee than my 20 euros French Press?”
I don’t think so
The way you used the french press for this seems very similar to the way coffee chronicler has been promoting recently but it could be cool to do an extra vid on your experience with that.
I really enjoy the clever recipe from Pocket Coffee Science. Great all round cup, body is great for 1:18 ratio.
Yep. It's nice. Planning on doing a video shouting out his article..
Thanks for this video! Price aside, the aesthetics, design, and workflow are what draw me to this. It also seems relatively simple to brew and like it could be a good travel brewer to bring to a hotel/Airbnb.
Lance, I'm wondering - how easy would this be to use for a more novice coffee drinker? My wife appreciates a good cup of coffee but doesnt have the patience/desire to do a pour over. She usually goes for french press for simplicity so im curious if this might be a good option for someone like her (not that a beginner would spend the money on this, just theoretically). Put another way, where does this brewer fall on a chart of effort in to quality coffee out
Would also like to see a deeper dive video from you that talks more about different recipes for this brewer and how changing variables impacts the brews.
I want to see you make a French press recipe video. I have only seen Coffee Chronicler do french press with a paper filter (though I suppose I haven't searched for French press recipes...)
Ive done one!
Lol I literally found it right after posting the comment. What's worse is I have already watched it. Not enough coffee today I guess. 😴
The paper filter French press was my answer to you Patreon Q!
I trained a lot with the clever and switch for compulsory, it rarely ever made cups I would have chosen over a V60 or Aeropress. So don't worry, it wasn't your fault that the extractions didn't measure up 😅
The bird is more like a piece of Art than a normal coffee maker.
I'll stay with my Mugen (and maybe Harios slow drip Abdon)
I'm really glad I got the Harrio V60 switch!
Appreciate the video. I don't see the benefit over a French Press (especially with the filter hack). More expensive and more annoying cleaning process, more parts. Seems like an unnecessary reinvention of the wheel.
I think in terms of what happens to the brew, the next thing to this might be the aeropress... we have agitation and the coffee pulling through a filterpaper. In all honesty, considering how aeropress seems to always carry a little more astringency than other brewers, this doesn't really seem to be worth it for the price. It's just another expensive weber toy. You get this thing for the playing around, high quality materials and the engineering, not better coffee.
Lance, I’ve never clicked quicker on one of your videos as I’m curious about the BIRD. However, I was hoping you might speak to the difference between the dynamics of pulling the coffee through the bed vs pushing it through. You did make reference to there being a difference, but didn’t talk about what makes it different. Maybe it’s all still speculation! Anyways thanks for the video!
this thing would have to do my laundry as well as not over extract the coffee like I think it inevitably is designed to do.
no difference than putting a manual air frother in your french press, at least it cleans the grounds easy for you tho I guess
edit: i also have to say that in any other brewing process is squishing the grounds out after brewing a beneficial process.
Overextracting with immersion is not a thing really
@@LanceHedrickcan you explain?? You might have blown my mind a little with this comment
really? i can't understand how it wouldn't over extract while bashing the grounds all over the place regardless of grind size or immersion length? @@LanceHedrick
In immersion there is no "new" water during the extraction so there is a point where the water is saturated and the extraction slows down drastically
@justinbouchard Like Lance and @MegaEscalope state, overextraction isn't really a thing in immersion brewing. It'll extract until an equilibrium is reached. So as far as the quality of your cup is concerned, there's no upper limit on immersion length. There's also no benefit to terminating the steeping before equilibrium has been reached because at that point you're just needlessly adding another variable you can mess up. You could technically still over-extract if you grind excessively fine, but that's just not a realistic scenario to judge a brewer by. That's no different from comically messing up your grounds/water ratio.
Just brew the coffee in the french press like James Hoffmann, but use the paper disk as an extra filter when you pour out the coffee in the cup, that's the best way.
It isn't as efficient in filtering but if it enjoy it, great!
I consider a cup of coffee to be 250g, so maxing out at 400 is a weird size. It's more than a single serve brewer, but not quite even a small batch brewer.
Ill wait for the Ali Express version.
One thing that really really frustrates me with WW is that their customer service is entirely none existent. For all the money you pay for a chinese made product to have no customer service.
While their manufacturing is based in Taiwan, the owner is in Japan and new head of customer support is in Colorado. The support has recently been revitalized
Is that a Nurri Lever Espresso machine behind him?
Another vacuum pull brewer is the infamous clover, but I doubt one of those machines are going to come across your bar. Comparing prices, the bird is a cheap manual clover.
Is there more of a chance of spinny arm things in the bird breaking the glass? Not so much when you agitate the coffee but prepping, cleaning ... Etc.
Great review.
I stopped using aeropress since the plastic will leach into coffee. Hot, acidic fluids in plastic leach the most plastic
would love to see your opinion on Varia Pro Brewer/Press
the press/vacuum mechanism looks very similar and they have different filter disks that can be swapped, assuming for slightly different extraction
I've gone through enough french presses that brake that I will never own a glass coffee maker again,
Can the bird fit 500ml? Lance mentions it can fit 400 easily and it would go to the line, would 500 make it?