I remember one of those C-133's flying over our quarters when I was 4 years old, playing in the back yard, when my Dad was stationed at Vandenberg. My Dad was a LCO with the 579th SMS.
I was at the Air Force Museum at Dover AFB a few years ago, and they opened up their C-133 so museum visitors could go inside. Although it resembles a C-130, the C-133 is *definitely larger*....
I'm old enough to remember the sound of a B 36 flying over. While I was in the Air Force during the 1960's in Holland we used to see an occasional C 133. That aircraft sounded just like a B 36 flying over at altitude. I believe the C 133 was also capable of carrying 5 F 104s.
Worked on them along with 124s and 141s at Dover AFB, 67-70 Avionics Tech. Donot miss working on those high wings and engines.😱 On the TET emergency airlift at Barksdale of Cobra Gunships for the Army believe we got 3-4 loaded on each 133. Busy times🗽🇺🇸
In the mid 70s I knew a man who purchased several C-133s for commercial operations. He went broke when the FAA refused to issue a airworthiness certificate. The FAA cited 'lack of structural integrity" as the reason for certificate refusal.
In the late 50's and early 60's, as a kid living on the west side of Los Angeles, immediately south of Santa Monica Airport, I would occasionally see M.A.T.S. C-124's, and later C-133's flying in to (most likely) pick up cargo from the Douglas Aircraft plant that was located there.
I flew the C-133A model...very similar but didn't have the clamshell doors. We had a ramp and single door. Also had a side cargo door but I don't remember using it very often.
The C-133 was built with very little R&D, kind of a rush job the carry the Atlas Missile. Many crashed about 100 miles out over the ocean. My dad was a C-124 pilot and he told me when the C-133 came out all the pilots wanted to fly the new pressurized plane. When many were lost they all wanted back to the C-124. I know an airline pilot who worked for a small company in Alaska flying parts for the pipeline. He told me his company stole 2 C-133's from the boneyard, true story! Google it!! They had a mechanic that figured why the c-133's were crashing. Just a really smart mechanic figured it out. One of the stolen planes is on display at Travis. The other had wing cracks and is still in Alaska.
One report said that, late on, they discovered fatigue cracks in the structure around a forward cargo door during the examination of the crashed remains of one more C-133. Strapping were a quick way of strengthening the fuselage so that remaining C-133s could complete their planned service-lives.
Sad that after that last one flew into Travis after being retired from semi-legal flying in Alaska, they cut the wings off to move it between power poles to it's final display location on the base.
Seeing that airman hanging out from the pod on the trailer reminds me of an episode of Steve Canyon on TV back in the 50's. Steve came to the rescue by deflating the tires so the missile could pass under a train bridge before the train could pass over. Exciting stuff (for a 8 year old).
I was a crew chief in the 1511 OMS (C-133B) at Travis AFB from 1963 until 1967. I have 629.15 hours on my AFTO form 5. That was a great airplane, but relatively unknown to most. I really enjoyed it.
If the plane was not rushed into production and a prototype was built, the problems this plane had could have been avoided and had a better safety record. But good airplane
Great aircraft, sadly flawed early on by propeller problems, stall characteristics and metal fatigue. These issues were mostly addressed and remedied later, but by then the heavy jet transports such as C-141 and C-5 were coming on line. I believe 20% of the 50 made were lost in crashes or incidents.
@@None-zc5vg Look to the LEFT of the C-124; I can't think of an American aircraft of that shape at the time.The clincher is the size realtive to the Globemaster. I have worked on the Bev. in the RAF; it's a Bev alright; but what was it doing there?...and, as you say, HOW did it get there? Incidently, where is this place?.....maybe closer to the UK than we think.
@@Firebrand55I see it now: that's definitely a 'Beverley'. The 'Atlas Unloading' clip must have originated in the U.S. so just maybe the British plane was there to support some kind of Anglo-U.S. joint exercise (Vulcans used to participate in exercises/competitions over there, but maybe 1960 was too early for that). I still can't see how the slow, lumbering 'Beverley' could have been trusted to make a transatlantic flight.
I noticed when I was young that all Air Force and Navy aircraft started having International Orange paint on them. I don't quite understand the logic other than for crash-site identification and in air visibility for certain mission aircraft, but why would fighter aircraft be painted with this color to allow a visual advantage to a foe? Could someone possibly fill me in on this?
In 1956 two airliners had a mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon, killing all on board. Citing poor visibility as a possible reason President Eisenhower issued orders that all government aircraft be painted bright colors so they could be seen more easily. This collision was the birth of the present Air Traffic Control System used in the US, with extensive radar and positive control from the FAA enroute centers.
Actually, the presence of F-102s in the background means that this is McCellan Air Force Base, in Sacramento, California. Air Defense Command had a squadron of '102s at McCellan, at the time of this film.
I am unfamiliar with the C-133B. This aircraft looks much like the venerable old C-130 Hercules however. Is this aircraft a totally seperate plane, designed and built separately, from the C-130, either before or after the C-130s introduction into regular service, or is the "C-133B" as seen in this video a specialized derivative of the C-130, therefore not a totally seperate design itself. Maybe a derivative for some specific purpose, lie the Guppy and Super Guppy were both heavily modified derivatives of the Boeing B-29 made to haul he huge completed sections off the Apollo Rockets do their final.assemby point in Florida for Launch? Maybe to haul the Atlas as shown here even? I.would love to know, just curious but still. Any help you can provide would be appreciated, thank you!!!
The C-130, and the C-133 are two totally unrelated designs. The Herky is designed for intertheater/intratheater airlift, and the Cargomaster was designed as a strategic airlift aircraft. The C-130 is still being built by Lockheed Martin, and Douglas Aircraft Company built the C-133.
The C-133 was built by Douglas. The C-130 is a Lockheed design....not a derivative of the C-130 at all. In all, only 50 C-133's were built. Several A models were converted into B models 57-1611, 1612, 1613, 1614 and 1615. S/N's 59-0520 through 59-0536 were factory B models and all B models were assigned to Travis AFB, and all A models were assigned to Dover AFB. I arrived at Travis on August 10, 1963 until my separation from active duty on Feb 28 1967. I hope all of the converted A Model serial numbers are correct, but it has been 55 years....
I must say, as an aviation enthusiast, it gives me great honor to see such Rare clips from the good ole days! :-)
Just the amount of engineering in that trailer alone is amazing.
I remember one of those C-133's flying over our quarters when I was 4 years old, playing in the back yard, when my Dad was stationed at Vandenberg. My Dad was a LCO with the 579th SMS.
Good quality; nice catch. Thumbs up! And what a laborious operation that was.
Really liked the C-133 Cargomaster, a real neat airplane !!!
This is cool, I am a aviation fan and I have never heard of a C-133 before. Now I am off to research it.
Always thought C-124 was cool too
I was at the Air Force Museum at Dover AFB a few years ago, and they opened up their C-133 so museum visitors could go inside. Although it resembles a C-130, the C-133 is *definitely larger*....
I'm old enough to remember the sound of a B 36 flying over. While I was in the Air Force during the 1960's in Holland we used to see an occasional C 133. That aircraft sounded just like a B 36 flying over at altitude. I believe the C 133 was also capable of carrying 5 F 104s.
Nice! Lots of detail.
Worked on them along with 124s and 141s at Dover AFB, 67-70 Avionics Tech. Donot miss working on those high wings and engines.😱
On the TET emergency airlift at Barksdale of Cobra Gunships for the Army believe we got 3-4 loaded on each 133. Busy times🗽🇺🇸
In the mid 70s I knew a man who purchased several C-133s for commercial operations. He went broke when the FAA refused to issue a airworthiness certificate. The FAA cited 'lack of structural integrity" as the reason for certificate refusal.
I don´t get it: a guy makes a millionaire investment on aircraft before knowing he wil be allowed to fly them? How stupid is that?
It's like a C-130 with pituitary problems! Cool plane,made expressly for this job!
In the late 50's and early 60's, as a kid living on the west side of Los Angeles, immediately south of Santa Monica Airport, I would occasionally see M.A.T.S. C-124's, and later C-133's flying in to (most likely) pick up cargo from the Douglas Aircraft plant that was located there.
I flew the C-133A model...very similar but didn't have the clamshell doors. We had a ramp and single door. Also had a side cargo door but I don't remember using it very often.
The C-133 was built with very little R&D, kind of a rush job the carry the Atlas Missile. Many crashed about 100 miles out over the ocean. My dad was a C-124 pilot and he told me when the C-133 came out all the pilots wanted to fly the new pressurized plane. When many were lost they all wanted back to the C-124.
I know an airline pilot who worked for a small company in Alaska flying parts for the pipeline. He told me his company stole 2 C-133's from the boneyard, true story! Google it!!
They had a mechanic that figured why the c-133's were crashing. Just a really smart mechanic figured it out.
One of the stolen planes is on display at Travis. The other had wing cracks and is still in Alaska.
One report said that, late on, they discovered fatigue cracks in the structure around a forward cargo door during the examination of the crashed remains of one more C-133. Strapping were a quick way of strengthening the fuselage so that remaining C-133s could complete their planned service-lives.
@@None-zc5vg Agreed but that was not it.
I have a friend who knows the guy who figured it out, I'll ask him.
@@scuddrunner1 Thanks Mike.👍
I read that a huge weight had to be loaded extreme forward when empty for flight.
Sad that after that last one flew into Travis after being retired from semi-legal flying in Alaska, they cut the wings off to move it between power poles to it's final display location on the base.
I used to see the C-133 Cargomaster on the Tachikawa Air Base flight line all the time during the 60s.
Seeing that airman hanging out from the pod on the trailer reminds me of an episode of Steve Canyon on TV back in the 50's. Steve came to the rescue by deflating the tires so the missile could pass under a train bridge before the train could pass over. Exciting stuff (for a 8 year old).
'That wasn't an airman...that was a Convair employee.
Awesome video! Thumbs up and thanks for sharing!
Thank you much!
You're welcome! As a airshow filmer and aviation enthusiast it is a pleasure for me to watch your videos. Greetings from Germany.:-)
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This Atlas-Trailer-Truck combo would make such a cool model, Airfix, you listening?
The C-133 looks longer then the C-130, this is the second C-133 film I watched, I really enjoyed both
Impressive pilot, landing that monster with the delicacy of a butterfly!
I was a crew chief in the 1511 OMS (C-133B) at Travis AFB from 1963 until 1967. I have 629.15 hours on my AFTO form 5. That was a great airplane, but relatively unknown to most. I really enjoyed it.
If the plane was not rushed into production and a prototype was built, the problems this plane had could have been avoided and had a better safety record. But good airplane
Looks like it might be at Norton AFB in Southern California.
interesting film from this vintage clip back in 1960. rob
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Impressive the way the missile is unloaded from the plane and how is taken away.
Great aircraft, sadly flawed early on by propeller problems, stall characteristics and metal fatigue. These issues were mostly addressed and remedied later, but by then the heavy jet transports such as C-141 and C-5 were coming on line. I believe 20% of the 50 made were lost in crashes or incidents.
Отличное видео! Самолет настоящий, на руках летали!
That twin tailed aircraft that is seen in this video is not a Blackburn Beverly, instead, it's a C-119 Flying Boxcar.
The “Oscar Mayer Flyer”. Who’re the guys in brown dress shoes? Never saw those on the flight line.
Gotta love the dress shoes lol
Those are not USAF personnel; they are a Convair factory team demonstrating the Approved Method for unloading the missile.
PIE FACE Death for the enemy!
Besides, they're called low quarter work shoes.
i used to watch the cargomasters go in and out of Mildenhall here in the UK when i was at school in the 60's.
This seems like a very time consuming process, just to unload one ICBM.
On display Travis AFB can be seen Google earth view.
Apparently, the military doesn't have to worry about OSHA.
Nice landing!
4.42...background aircraft. At right a Douglas C-124 Globemaster...but at left, oddly, a British Blackburn Beverley, well out of it's hunting ground.
Can't see the "Beverley": would such an aircraft have ever been able to fly the Atlantic ?
@@None-zc5vg Look to the LEFT of the C-124; I can't think of an American aircraft of that shape at the time.The clincher is the size realtive to the Globemaster. I have worked on the Bev. in the RAF; it's a Bev alright; but what was it doing there?...and, as you say, HOW did it get there? Incidently, where is this place?.....maybe closer to the UK than we think.
@@Firebrand55I see it now: that's definitely a 'Beverley'. The 'Atlas Unloading' clip must have originated in the U.S. so just maybe the British plane was there to support some kind of Anglo-U.S. joint exercise (Vulcans used to participate in exercises/competitions over there, but maybe 1960 was too early for that). I still can't see how the slow, lumbering 'Beverley' could have been trusted to make a transatlantic flight.
Wonder how long this took in real time?
133 Hercules dad.👍💪
I noticed when I was young that all Air Force and Navy aircraft started having International Orange paint on them. I don't quite understand the logic other than for crash-site identification and in air visibility for certain mission aircraft, but why would fighter aircraft be painted with this color to allow a visual advantage to a foe? Could someone possibly fill me in on this?
In 1956 two airliners had a mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon, killing all on board. Citing poor visibility as a possible reason President Eisenhower issued orders that all government aircraft be painted bright colors so they could be seen more easily. This collision was the birth of the present Air Traffic Control System used in the US, with extensive radar and positive control from the FAA enroute centers.
Forklift has "MAFB" written on it. From that, guessing this is McConnell Air Force Base (?).
Mather AFB, CA?
Actually, the presence of F-102s in the background means that this is McCellan Air Force Base, in Sacramento, California. Air Defense Command had a squadron of '102s at McCellan, at the time of this film.
Ahh the brown shoe days
Textbook landing
Wow! It's like a C-130 on Steroids!
I think it looks better than the Hercules
No tech data ?
C-133 and C-130J-30 look different faced
I am unfamiliar with the C-133B. This aircraft looks much like the venerable old C-130 Hercules however.
Is this aircraft a totally seperate plane, designed and built separately, from the C-130, either before or after the C-130s introduction into regular service, or is the "C-133B" as seen in this video a specialized derivative of the C-130, therefore not a totally seperate design itself. Maybe a derivative for some specific purpose, lie the Guppy and Super Guppy were both heavily modified derivatives of the Boeing B-29 made to haul he huge completed sections off the Apollo Rockets do their final.assemby point in Florida for Launch? Maybe to haul the Atlas as shown here even?
I.would love to know, just curious but still.
Any help you can provide would be appreciated, thank you!!!
The C-130, and the C-133 are two totally unrelated designs. The Herky is designed for intertheater/intratheater airlift, and the Cargomaster was designed as a strategic airlift aircraft. The C-130 is still being built by Lockheed Martin, and Douglas Aircraft Company built the C-133.
Also, the Guppy, and Super Guppy are both heavily modified Boeing 377 Stratoccruiser propliners.
The C-133 was built by Douglas. The C-130 is a Lockheed design....not a derivative of the C-130 at all. In all, only 50 C-133's were built. Several A models were converted into B models 57-1611, 1612, 1613, 1614 and 1615. S/N's 59-0520 through 59-0536 were factory B models and all B models were assigned to Travis AFB, and all A models were assigned to Dover AFB. I arrived at Travis on August 10, 1963 until my separation from active duty on Feb 28 1967. I hope all of the converted A Model serial numbers are correct, but it has been 55 years....
Muito bom
Norton AFB.
like it reason education and no tuition fee.
Why is everyone white in this video?
Because back then, diversity hiring wasn’t a thing lmao. Pity we didn’t stick to that.