The main difference I was taught was if high on approach, to fly pretty much normally until final and then full slip to the runway. The normal approach I was taught was cut the power abeam the end of the runway, not the 1,000 foot markers and many runways don’t have them so always index off the end which all runways have, trim and then apply 10 flaps. Turn base and apply 20 flaps. Turn final and apply 40 flaps and then slip as required. This was the way we made every landing and it kept you well prepared to make an engine out landing in a field if necessary simply by replaced the end of the runway index with the end of a suitable field.
I always chuckle when I watch videos like this. This is the only way I was taught to land when I learned to fly in 1977. Every landing at my home field as a power-off 180 and the man who ran the airport landed all of his airplanes this way all the time (150s, 172, and 182s). He was an A&P also and always said that shock cooling was a myth and I’ve always believed him. We landed this way routinely so engine failure practice was simply doing a normal landing at possibly other than an airport and was essentially done on every landing. THAT is the way to increase safety. The only exception was instrument approaches or landings at larger airports where they wouldn’t allow you to fly a normal 180 approach/
My instructor back in the 1980's had me do dead stick landings at least once every lesson. Why are they not done today? Why is this a big deal today? Is not a dead stick from downwind the same as a power off 180?? What happened to the training syllabus?
I would say practice a lot of different airports. My home airport became way too easy as I was using known landmarks as a crutch. Those aren't going to be there on the 5 freeway or another airport.
Ha ha. I learned to fly a long time ago, in 7AC Champs and Cessna 140s. I was taught power off approaches and landings as the "standard" way it's done.
Read the actual language of your POH. Does it say “not recommended” or “prohibited”? Big difference. With 172s, it depends on the year and whether there have been any modifications.
@@calburnIII"Slips are prohibited in full flap approaches because of a downward pitch encountered under certain combinations of airspeed and sideslip angle. " --1964 Cessna 172, Model "E". Note that "full flaps" are 40 degrees on this plane, which I NEVER USE. Can I slip with 30 degrees flaps?
Military training: explanation, demonstration, participation, confirmation, graduation. I am well into this video and I dot know what the exercise looks like. What is it trying to achieve?
The main difference I was taught was if high on approach, to fly pretty much normally until final and then full slip to the runway. The normal approach I was taught was cut the power abeam the end of the runway, not the 1,000 foot markers and many runways don’t have them so always index off the end which all runways have, trim and then apply 10 flaps. Turn base and apply 20 flaps. Turn final and apply 40 flaps and then slip as required. This was the way we made every landing and it kept you well prepared to make an engine out landing in a field if necessary simply by replaced the end of the runway index with the end of a suitable field.
Good stuff! Doing the airwork to determine your rates of descent is critical to knowing how to make adjustments to the power off approach.
Ian, you make it look so easy. Great presentation. Thanks
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks
I always chuckle when I watch videos like this. This is the only way I was taught to land when I learned to fly in 1977. Every landing at my home field as a power-off 180 and the man who ran the airport landed all of his airplanes this way all the time (150s, 172, and 182s). He was an A&P also and always said that shock cooling was a myth and I’ve always believed him. We landed this way routinely so engine failure practice was simply doing a normal landing at possibly other than an airport and was essentially done on every landing. THAT is the way to increase safety. The only exception was instrument approaches or landings at larger airports where they wouldn’t allow you to fly a normal 180 approach/
My instructor back in the 1980's had me do dead stick landings at least once every lesson. Why are they not done today? Why is this a big deal today? Is not a dead stick from downwind the same as a power off 180?? What happened to the training syllabus?
My instructor in the 70s had me do one EVERY landing. 😁
I would say practice a lot of different airports. My home airport became way too easy as I was using known landmarks as a crutch. Those aren't going to be there on the 5 freeway or another airport.
Ha ha. I learned to fly a long time ago, in 7AC Champs and Cessna 140s. I was taught power off approaches and landings as the "standard" way it's done.
Does your POH say "No slips with flaps." Mine does. NOT THAT I'VE EVER DONE THAT!
Read the actual language of your POH. Does it say “not recommended” or “prohibited”? Big difference. With 172s, it depends on the year and whether there have been any modifications.
@@calburnIII"Slips are prohibited in full flap approaches because of a downward pitch encountered under certain combinations of airspeed and sideslip angle. " --1964 Cessna 172, Model "E". Note that "full flaps" are 40 degrees on this plane, which I NEVER USE. Can I slip with 30 degrees flaps?
And of course, for these maneuvers, a visual angle of attack indicator would not help. This is an eyeballs out maneuver.
Military training: explanation, demonstration, participation, confirmation, graduation. I am well into this video and I dot know what the exercise looks like. What is it trying to achieve?
Do we have to spell it out for you? It's a power off landing. LOL
How do you not know what a “Power Off 180” is?
The title spells it out completely. Please don’t fly at my airport if this is that difficult for you.
Remember practicing those in my Cessna Cardinal & used to slip it in a lot since it had those glider wings.
Three wheel landings....ugh....hold the nose off! Stall warning should be chirping at touchdown....