Lincoln Navigator air suspension conversion to coil springs / Ford Expedition.
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This video will show you how to convert the air suspension to clear Springs suspension on a Lincoln navigator 04 expedition it shows you all the steps that you need to take and tools required for the job
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Thanks Garage Boys! This video made the conversion on my wife’s 2005 Navigator a breeze. The detail you provided was top notch. Great job!!!
Hello. Could you give us the name of the shock absorbers you have fitted to your Lincoln? Does the car drive better now? Maybe you have some recent photos. greetings !
I would not have attempted the swap without this video. Thank you. It was easy and quick along with not having to worry about the air system going out on our trips.
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Thank you for taking the time to share. Nice clear video and great explanations of how to deal with the little tricks to make it work. Great Video.
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This video saved my life. My fuses went out and the back of my truck sits high. But this video helped me replace it to normal suspension. Thanks so Much
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I bought a 2003 Navigator with 50,000 miles in 2011 and I bought a $3000 Ford 3 year 36000 mile bumper to bumper warranty with a $50 deductible. About 10,000 miles later the entire suspension and compressor had to be replaced. I paid $50 for a $2400 dealer cost replacement of the entire suspension system. NO LIE, I had another $12500.00 in Warranty work done in the next two years.
My engine failed and my Transmission failed, along with a few other expensive items. It cost me out of pocket another $200 in warranty deductibles. On 10/2014 my warranty expired, I no problems until 2018 when the air suspension failed again. My local mechanic said it will run $2400 to fix the air suspension or $1100 to replace it with Strut Master Struts and Springs. I chose to replace it with the Strut Master Struts and Springs.
The air suspension ride is better, but the new springs and struts are very close. When driving up parking lot ramps, and going over speed bumps, my Navigator rocks back and forth more now than when I had the Air Suspension. When on roads and Freeways there is almost no difference.
After the suspension replacement, most of my front end steering components were wore out. I had the whole front end repaired, $1000. I just had the Air Con fixed $1200. It is 2021 and I only have 40,000 mile on my newer Engine and Transmission and 10,000 miles on the suspension and front end. In theory I should have a sound mechanical 2003 Navigator. I'm I going to sell it, NOWAY, its only worth about $1500. It's a Great Tool, I haul around my family and friends and a whole lot of Cargo over the years.
If you buy a used vehicle, by a Manufacturers Extended Warranty only , never buy a after market Auto Warranty. It's fine to replace your air suspension with Struts and Springs, less headaches and worry.
Thanks man I just did the front ones and couldn't have done it without your video saved me a another of money thanks again
Thank you pal, I imported one to the uk. Struggled to find any spring suppliers in the UK. Had to order from the USA. Thank you for the video it is very helpful.
Regards ant 🇬🇧
thanks my guy we just did this to my 2005 lincoln navigator and your video helped alot took about 4 to 5 hours
You do not need to mess with the center nut on the top of the strut to rotate it, that is what keeps the coil spring from exploding off and hurting or killing you. DO NOT MESS WITH THE CENTER NUT, unless you have the coil springs locked in place and have experience doing it or someone with experience helping you. PLEASE STAY SAFE.
Super excellent video..thanks for taking the time to make this video!
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Your explanation is awesome; this is interesting. I'm going to get me a navigator 2003 this weekend ans I'm checking reviews came your video just in case I need to do it on my own. I can do a few things in my own like check oil, put oil, change my tires that are 22's. So I'm a hands on young lady. Your instructions are so clear after a few watch I can definitely do this. Great job Sir and keep safe.
Glad I could help! If you do it, let us know how it goes 😃
Thanks for sharing! I have had the air suspension go out years ago, but lucky it was still under warranty. The price to fix the air suspension is the same as a used car. I know it will not ride as smooth as air. Lots of great information and tips in your video.
I am glad you made this video. I want all people who own a Lincoln all are not the same. I have a 2006 Gator Limited and it is not short like this one. I have. had more problems knowing mine is so different. The 06 is the last Gator to have an on and off switch for the suspension. Keep this in mind. I am happy about the rear 30mm bolt and not needing a wrench. I was about to go crazy over finding one where I live, they have tractors but nothing over 22mm lol what!!
I have an 04, when you say 'short' are you referring to height or length?
I swapped mine out today, took about 3hrs. I would recommend spraying all bolts with a wd40 type spray. Good video
How are the new struts holding up today?
Awesome video, THANK YOU for sharing wrench and socket sizes. Only thing is you forgot to show us when to tighten the middle nut on the shock. I'll figure that part out though. Thanks for taking the time to do this
Glad I could help, let us know how it goes 😃 and also don’t forget to like and subscribe
Thanks for the video. This helped me a lot with my dads Lincoln and saving him some money
My suspension is giving me a lot of headaches, I will definitely be swapping it out. Thanks for the explanation
Truly it’s the best thing one can do on this Navigators, just because their air suspension has too many issues and it’s very delicate and expensive . Let us know how your conversion goes. 😃
@@GarageBoys is the same process on a 2006 Lincoln navigator? Thanks bro I appreciate the project is for tomorrow
Yes same process, make sure you have jack stands and secure the car properly when lifting it. Good luck and let us know how it goes
@@GarageBoys do I need to buy the module that cuts the s pension warning light off
Our do I need to buy it?
Roderick Whittle I don’t know of a sensor for that, if there is let us know
Fantastic video! Thank you so much, seriously, this was a huge help!
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@@GarageBoys i have a question my new set didn't say left or right side,it doesn't matter?
It doesn’t matter, you just have to line up the bolts just like I show in the video
@@GarageBoys thanks men,stay at home take care.!😊
I did this to my 04 navigator about 3 years ago. Had air suspension worked fine. Lowered it using a 2 inch drop kit that is nade for 03-06 expedition. Changed it after 6 months since it would bottom out with 7 passengers. Switched over to arnott suspension plus a 3 inch spacer lift made for the expedition.. it rode good for about 3 months until the ride height took out my upper control arms. Then I sold my navigator and got a 2012 fusion
WoW lol
Great video thank you, you made it look easy if you have the right tools thanks again
The suspension is more from the wire harness that goes to the transmission. I just got my new harness in. I reinforced mine with 200 degrees and wrapped it from the factory. I will save you tons of problems later if you do re-wrap the wires now.
Great video. Very helpful
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Very helpful. Awesome job
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awsome vid bro!
Never buy an expedition used with the air suspension. Big money to repair. Great video.
Great video. I wish I knew you can change the air suspension to coil springs before I traded in my '07 Navigator. My step son told me AFTER I traded it in😥 PS- Is the ride smooth after the conversion? You should have shown a video or picture of your truck after you were done😀
Awesome video. It's been 2 years since. How are these struts holding up today?
Excellent Video. Thanks
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Thanks for showing the love! 👍🏻
Awesome video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Great on explain everything
Thank you, I’m glad you liked it 😊
It is great I never see something like that
What is the difference between these shocks and something like the MOOG ST8566 & ST8567... they look the same? Is the conversion kit designed differently or have different upper mounts. Thanks in advance.
Great video!
Thanks! I also have a video on replacing the bag when it has a leak.
Towers (jack stands)
Pipe (breaker bar)
Great video man!
Thx!
Thank very well explained
How about check engine light for suspension. There’s by pass kit out there from strutamaster for $450. Crazy price anyways is the navigator limited in speed due to the suspension light active after the conversion is done ? Can owners still drive the suv without overpaying strut master for their bypass box?
Followed step by step…had zero issues
Hey do you have a video on how to remove the dash board to get to the ac vent door? Or can you make one. Great video
Yes I have a video, check my “Ford Repairs” Playlist. There’s a video about a f-150 ac vent fix that will help you
7:10 Step 15: Spontaneously grow a third arm to hold the wrench to keep the nut in place.
How many inches are those shock springs? Cause I still want to have my Ford expedition a little lowered? Please help me out bro
After the suspension kit change i love the drive omg.. but i got misfire cylinder 3.. evrything was fine before. Could that be because of the compressor and air hoses hanging down ? Making a a vacuum leakage ? And then misfire ?
No, you are having a unrelated issue. Suspension is not connected with cylinders
Id rather have her low as in the beginning but with coil springs i know ive got to cut them but low is the way to go
I love my navi hate the suspension.Its great on date night when you out and motor kicks on...
😂😂 love when that compressor clicks on at the drive ins
The previous owner of my 2012 Lincoln Navigator L was sick of the issues and failures of the air suspension system and chose to perform the conversion to coil springs and eliminate the air ride system and compressor. I have driven two identical vehicles, one with the air-ride system and mine with the coil spring conversion and I see no performance or ride difference. The only issue remaining, is that the computer dash display still displays "Check Air Suspension System" every time the vehicle is started and the computer performs the vehicle's health check. It's just a small annoyance to press the dash "Reset Button" to clear the message each time the vehicle is started, but it would be nice if I didn't have to do that. Do you know how to prevent the "message' from displaying after the conversion has been performed. I suspect the message may be triggered by the electro-mechanical ride sensor switches that are normally attached to the air springs. I haven't yet checked to see if the sensors are still on the vehicle or what position they are in.
You need forscan to read the IC module. You have to edit the numbers to disable the air suspension message from appearing. Google search "air suspension delete forscan" and you will see what I mean
After changing the suspension, the advancetrac did not turn on?
I just fix and maintain the air suspension. I like the poofy ride.
How would you raise it from the wheels? 🤔
What did you do about the ride height sensor that gives the “check suspension” warning in the dash?
Press the button located in the back, when you open the rear door it will be on your left panel, that’s switch is used to turn air suspension “off”. After you do that you will always have an announcement saying “Air suspension off” in which you can make it go away by pressing any button on the dash
Wait is that drop with the coil overs or the air suspension
This is great, but I’m having issues with notifications on my dash that my air suspension is turned off and tire system faulty. Any ideas on how to clear those?
Unfortunately the notification will always be there, you can turn off air suspension but you will have the “suspension off” message
Okay now how do you get the check air suspension light to stay off once done .. 2005 navigator
if you only wanted to change the rear suspension would that like be okay or would i have to do front and back ?
cause the front is fine on my 2000 lincoln its just the rear thats down
I believe the air suspension is all connected, if you unplug one the others won’t fill up. So you have to change front and back
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What if I wanna replace the front shocks only so that my Navi will be running on front coil springs and rear air shocks? Will it work? Will the computer malfunction? Will the air compressor work properly?
I believe it won’t work because the system will not detect the front shocks and will deactivate.
I tried to put as you say but it is not left does not enter the shock absorber
Mine is the same but I was told I will have an error on my dash if I do that ,,, did u get any errors or not ,,, great video man
I didn’t get any errors because I turned the switch on the suspension off. It’s located in the trunk like I show on the video, the only message I was getting was “suspension off”
Oh so that way the compresor is working and don’t send errors to the ecu.. gracias man
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Do you have to drain the air before removing the air bag so it doesn’t adjust when your removing it
No
What's the height once it's converted to shocks
The same I guess...
Hi, I have a 2005 Navigator and replaced mine, but how do you erase the icon on the dash as for the suspension.
Hi, my 2005 Navigator rear suspension is sagged too now, and contemplating of replacing it with coil. How was the ride and if you manage to erase the icon on the dash?
I ordered mine from www.strutmasters.comThere's not much of a difference, its more sturdy
......Still haven't had any luck erasing the icon on the Dash, although I switched off the suspension on the left rear corner at the small compartment.
A quick question, dose we turned on the switch after finishing please?
No, your switch will be always be off now because you don’t have air suspension anymore
My navigator driver seat motor not worki g when I press the front down control it just rumbles but it do t move down. Do I need a new motor or a fuse?
Check if there’s something obstructing the Rail and check if the engine is spinning the gears properly
Oye y si usas dados hondos para las tuercas en vez de las llaves....
What color is your Lincoln Navigator
I laughed at the video thumbnail XD
How can we remove fault messages from dash screen? Not even say turned off or something, i converted to springs i dont have selenoids or pump any more
You will always have message, turning it off with the rear switch will give you the “suspensions off” message. There’s no way around that
Lucky I brought my navigator with coil shocks already installed but when I'm ready to change em I'll return here cause this was a great video... also is there a way I can shut the suspension warning sign off when I cut the truck on?
Na bruh Im sorry, I don’t think there’s a way to remove the message. Al you can do is turn off the air suspension but you will have the “suspension off” warning
Hey buddy thanks for the video, I need to replace front shocks only, can I do that? or I have to replace all of them, (front and back) thanks
I’m not sure, I think the air hoses are all connected so if you unplug 2 the other 2 will leak
I got mine from Rock Auto.
That ball joint is hit.
Nice video. I changed my air to springs on my 2003 Lincoln Navigator years ago. In which I had some trouble since then. Maybe you have a solution. I had to change my springs twice tear and wear from a heavy engine too. My troubles: 1 suspension switch off every day in my dash. Hitting reset every day to cancel display. 2. Parking assist works on and off since I went to springs. In your video you did not connect the electrical back to the suspension air solenoid control valve. In mine It gave me a trouble code. So I connected and zip tied to chassis that fixed my trouble code. Comments: I think my parking reverse assist works with also the air ride high sensor (elevation sensor)not sure yet? Which is connected to the upper control arm. Gonna test that soon. Any comments or fixes please comment. Thanks.
The display will always show “air suspension off” and like you mention you have to hit reset every time and that solves it. The parking sensors are independent from the suspension I’m
It sure why they are giving you issues, I think you have a independent issue there. Also what do you mean by connecting back the electrical? Cables where connected to air shocks once removed there’s no where to connect anymore just zip tie them to chasis
In my 2003 It gave me a code then. Found that the air solenoid need it to be hook up to the electrical pig tails. Which is the connector to the unit next to the air line. This kind of white unit called air solenoid which is removable. It was my trouble air suspension code at switch rear ON. After reconnecting and zip tied to chassis fixed the error code in my dash, but kept the air pump running. If off I think the solenoid think doesn't matter haven't try. Idea not yet tested!! I think if the power itself to the air pump removed with the rear switch ON and solenoids connected. It might keep the system on and prevent displaying in dash the message [suspension switch off] and air pump from working. I haven't try that yet. From the fuse box nothing work for disabling the message. I left my solenoids zip tied and been with message since then.
Any more updates? Did you ever get the message off the dash?
Did you ever find out what was wrong with the backup sensor?
Same thing happened to me after going coils
@@CHUY90247 I went and got another module. In which the same thing happens.. I believe is already pre-programmed module setting in height and perimeter. I tried to find a way to reset those settings unsuccessful. I believe is my vehicle height from the ground level. My 22" Higher than my older 17" or 18" Rim & Tires lower to the ground. I just left it that way for now. My air suspension in the past had the same issue then and now with the springs.
you don't need to, and shouldn't mess around with that center bolt . . . you can use a 3/8ths extension for a socket to tweak the alignment of that shaft without lossening up the bolt . . .
Awesome, thanks
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Yeah my 04 was nothing like this ....complete pain in the ass took all day to swap had to unbolt the sway bar and use a 5 foot prybar
How i turn off the check suspension light on dashboard?
Lincoln dealer converted mine and told me there is no way to keep the check suspension warning from coming on
Press the switch in the back to the off position and that will turn off the suspension, but then you will have a “suspension off” warning on the dashboard... it will always stay there, every time you turn on the car you will have to press the button on the dashboard to make the message go away.....
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I'm doing my this weekend , because my air suspension deployed, due to winter time, when is too cold out there they won't rise up.... It's been a pain Avery winter, during summer was perfect....
How did it go?
@@GarageBoys it was a little pain in the beginning but after I did the first one the other ones was a little more easier....
@@GarageBoys thanks for the video it did help me a lot
glad I could help! and thx for the update!
Thanks for this Video man. help me out a lot with my Navigator. #SubscribeThose
Glad I was able to help you!
Will this video work for a 2002 navigator?
Yes it should, but check with amazon if part fits before buying
What brand did you use?????????
Completestruts, the ones from the link in my description
@@GarageBoys are those okej branding do they still work fine we are 7 passengets will it hold its hight
Now the big question, how do you stop the dinging noise after you start the car?
Did you switch it to off?
What if the shock doesnt fit inside the slot and I know for a fact it's the right shock?
Make sure the triangle shape is pointing the right way
It wont even go in to get to that point
After I take that 30 mm bolt out , it never lowered so the coil could go in , it was a struggle to get the air shock out , all the screws are out an everything man.
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Maybe you are jacking up the wrong part of the vehicle? Follow the instructions in the video exactly and you shouldn’t have any issues
Won't that be more of a stiffer ride and you will feel more of a bumpy ride.
Yes it’s a stiffer ride but a softer pocket because you will save a lot of money, on the spot and on the long run.
suelo cuh
can i just replace the front?
No I don’t think you can because the air compressor pumps air to all 4 at the same time
If the air compressor cycles based on a simple pressure switch, it MAY work as long as you plug the decommissioned air lines at the front.
f@ck i touched the red button😭
Bad idea, why screw up a good suspension?
Too expensive to repair and maintain
@@GarageBoys Not really
Repair a bad susp 1000 dls
Replace for coil spring 400 dls
@EsperanzaBalderas not only that but new $1000 air suspension won’t last long and sooner than later that’s another $1000. Everybody complains about the air suspension, they are just too delicate
😅 that is not a right triangle lol
Чё говорит? По татарски не понимаю!
If you're too cheap to maintain your Gator then buy an Expedition. NO VEHICLE THAT WAS EVER CONVERTED TO SPRINGS is going to ride better.
I don’t think is just the financial issue, it’s more the annoyance of constant issues and repairs required by such a delicate system.
@@GarageBoys there's nothing delicate about the system. Just buy Goodyear airbags instead if factory ones and the problem is solved. But your video misleads people into thinking that the best option is the swap. Once you consider depreciation and loss of ride quality you've more than surpassed the extra cost.
So we can agree that factory airbags have constant issues. 👍🏻
I’m not misleading people I’m showing them what I did so they can consider it as an option. This is a public channel, here they can see everyone’s likes, comments and views on the subject.
@@GarageBoys yeah, I fully admit that BUT as you fail to see, the way you present your video you make ZERO mention of options which in my opinion if YOU'RE A MECHANIC is unforgivable and misleading