I never understood how Paul just sat there throughout this whole crazy Rhodes phase. He always did look up to Joe too much to the point that he lost his own voice. He called him his 'older brother' during the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction and that's what he was during this demise of The Clash, Joe's little tail.
Joe gave the voiceless a voice, and that's what made Joe special, Paul might have had self esteem issues? but Joe showed nothing but love to him regardless of his personality 'flaws' so I guess I can see why Joe was the front man
I realised there wasn't anything. Any record, that I could have safely grab hold of, and leap out of a space-shuttle with. Yellin... and feeling satisfied.
Poor Joe. He rehired Bernie, he fired Topper, he fired Mick and then turned The Clash into something best described as "Sham 69 with 80s synths/drum machines". He's talking pure bollocks here.
The show was called Fridays. I don't remember the details exactly, but I believe he produced a band's record some time around the end of 1980 and accepted dentures instead of money.
well done on getting this in watchable quality, no sign of the supposed live clips of Clampdown & I Fought The Law? do you think they ever existed? i just can't imagine a certain tv show being set up for capturing live concert audio
totally agree, this doesn't seem like the down to earth strummer that fans know. he talks of not overdubbing things, all of london calling was over dubbed. two takes on every song to make it sound bigger.
Everything Joe says in this interview completly contradicts everything he's been saying for his entire Clash career. London Calling and the two albums that followed were released as a reactions against punk's restrictive formula and here he seems to be against music doing new things and developing new ideas. When he says (in the next part) that only Blacks should perform Black music it completly flies in the face of his ideas about multiculturalism. What did Bernie do to him??
Bernie Rhodes has very conservative views in contrast to his "activism", so it's not surprising he would indoctrinate Joe like this. Plus, Joe wasn't all there, even before his parents' death
That banner they flew "The Clash aren't for Sale" pissed of the US Festival organizers, so they flashed an image of the $500K check that the Clash was given to perform, behind the Clash. They were huuuuge hypocrites
Matedog2, cool clips on your page. Got to keep their spirit alive. These guys were still a major influence on music post 80's. They came from humble beginnings and still kept there cool with all their fame. Although their roots were Punk, Strummer was very much against the Skin-head movement, he made music for all people. Johnny Appleseed, he's talking about MLK.
Loved the Joe who used to spend few words about something right, with a disillusioned point of view like he didn't need cameras and interviewers to spread his message, cause he was out of media's target. This one (Joe) is too longwinded, too much emphasis like he had no chances of showing the band's opinion except for the tv-way. Actually this is what really changed in The Clash's ideas: how to get in touch with people.
+Sara Zavarella He seems fed up in this interview. They were going through some shit at this point in time. Gotta admire his passion and desire to get his word out. Why they're our biggest influence!
You know there was a clip here of them on Letterman and it disapeared. It just vanished. These producers and directors just can't stand seeing their material somewhere and NO REVENUE or royalties coming in. There was a clip of The Smithereens on SNL doing The Blues before and After. That one also disappeared. I do remember Fridays though! Thanks for the feedback.
The Clash was dead by this time. Joe was trying to keep it going but it was BS. He would admit as much later on. I have to agree, not his best moments but overall he was a great man who, like most of us, learned from his mistakes. A boss I once had said to me "how come no one remembers the 99 things I do right and only remember the one thing I did wrong". I have experienced this also and basically only stupid twatsfocus on one mistake and not the entirety of a persons life and/or work.
I think the double tracking of everything was specifically cited for The Card Cheat, but yeah, there was tons of overdubs throughout the record. It's worth noting that Buddy Holly double tracked his vocals and that was "roots rock" that Joe was supposedly all about at this point.
@digivate the clash disn't pretend anything joe strummer may not have been proud of hionts background pre clash but he soon didnt care... the clash were what they were!!! there was no pretence they sung about things that fucking matter classes dont!!! just a nother form of division!
just tough watching this. i was always a strummer guy and he's just off the rails here. you can't blame him totally for the break up - even Mick concedes that but he doesn't come across all too great in this.
This is really hard to watch, one of the most incredible, creative and interesting artists of the 20th century reverted to this... cocaine's a hell of a drug I guess.
Joe had his teeth fixed at this point. I still remember him doing London Calling on Letterman. US. TV Debut, spit slinging over the mike I think the chipped tooth added to this.
I have Two Favorite Bands,Linkin Park And The Clash And To See Joe Strummer Just Going On And On While Paul Simonon Sits Their In Silence Just Shows You How Far The Clash Has fallen
He's talking about the Clash early original lineup of five including both Mick Jones and Keith Levene on guitars, before the recording of the first album.
the clash played the game as did everyone they played it well, very quickly finding out ideals do not pay for meals .if the public are buying , you are selling.r&r lesson number 1. these blokes knew who was buttering their bread,father chrismass had nothing to do with it.
"Blando, blando, blando ..." What made The Clash great was that they made an enormous amount of wonderful music in little more than five years (77 to 82), rarely if ever repeating themselves. This rant is just embarrassing reactionary nonsense, heavily influenced by Bernie, which even Joe would later admit.
I love The Clash but this is just pathetic. IMO Strummer was always a bit childish in his opinions but this is too much. He wanted to bring back Bernie, he wasnt patient enough with Topper (they should have given him some time to deal with drug addiction), he wanted to sack Mick, he paid the price. Lets remember the real Clash, not this crap.
Giving topper some time???? By the time Joe died topper was still not clean. Mick was a diva and fed up with not being the frontman, he didn't want to tour and didn't show up to rehearsals- makes it at one point impossible to work with. Joe could have handled it different maybe, talking it out and taking a break and not let Bernie play him like a fiddle. But he isn't solely to blame. And he paid a high price for the clash falling apart. Always wanting for them to get back together, not having any success and then dying. For a band that was so anti rockstars they sure became exactly that. Sex,drugs and their huge egos because of their success, completely losing sight of why they wanted to do what they did in the first place.
I respect what Joe was trying to do at this time and what he was trying to say here. Great passionate rant
I love Strummer but he'd seemingly lost the plot at this point. He's almost exploding with frustration and sadness.
He’s speaking his truth at the time. Good for him.
The Clash was never the same after Mick Jones left.
Paul is so handsome ugh
Thanks matedog so much for all your great Clash uploads!
These guys really have passion for music
I never understood how Paul just sat there throughout this whole crazy Rhodes phase. He always did look up to Joe too much to the point that he lost his own voice. He called him his 'older brother' during the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction and that's what he was during this demise of The Clash, Joe's little tail.
Joe gave the voiceless a voice, and that's what made Joe special, Paul might have had self esteem issues? but Joe showed nothing but love to him regardless of his personality 'flaws' so I guess I can see why Joe was the front man
I love you Joe Strummer :'[ R.I.P.
I realised there wasn't anything. Any record, that I could have safely grab hold of, and leap out of a space-shuttle with. Yellin... and feeling satisfied.
The description below this video is 100% truth. Strummer being overwhelmed by his own ego, and also being a puppet of Bernie Rhodes.
Clash 84?? They ended in 83 when mick went.
They should have. Bernie took control of the group after mick left and basically killed the clash
I, STRUMMER
Poor Joe. He rehired Bernie, he fired Topper, he fired Mick and then turned The Clash into something best described as "Sham 69 with 80s synths/drum machines". He's talking pure bollocks here.
Sad but true. The look on Paul's face says it all.
I agree with Matedog's Bernie comment, but I appreciate seeing the video nonetheless. Thanks for posting this.
I think this interview is hilarious!!!! It cracks me up everytime ^^
The show was called Fridays. I don't remember the details exactly, but I believe he produced a band's record some time around the end of 1980 and accepted dentures instead of money.
well done on getting this in watchable quality, no sign of the supposed live clips of Clampdown & I Fought The Law? do you think they ever existed? i just can't imagine a certain tv show being set up for capturing live concert audio
totally agree, this doesn't seem like the down to earth strummer that fans know. he talks of not overdubbing things, all of london calling was over dubbed. two takes on every song to make it sound bigger.
Everything Joe says in this interview completly contradicts everything he's been saying for his entire Clash career. London Calling and the two albums that followed were released as a reactions against punk's restrictive formula and here he seems to be against music doing new things and developing new ideas. When he says (in the next part) that only Blacks should perform Black music it completly flies in the face of his ideas about multiculturalism. What did Bernie do to him??
Bernie Rhodes has very conservative views in contrast to his "activism", so it's not surprising he would indoctrinate Joe like this. Plus, Joe wasn't all there, even before his parents' death
That banner they flew "The Clash aren't for Sale" pissed of the US Festival organizers, so they flashed an image of the $500K check that the Clash was given to perform, behind the Clash. They were huuuuge hypocrites
Totally agree. It was Mick the creative mind behind the Clash
@@tenbroeck1958 the punk thing was a gimmick . Explains why there best albums were London calling and Sandinista
@@turnmeondeadman4221 Agree 100%. Talented and made cool music, but they got very high on themselves.
@moneyhorsehouse I think Strummer sounds completely down to earth here. Everything he says about America still applies today.
Matedog2, cool clips on your page. Got to keep their spirit alive. These guys were still a major influence on music post 80's. They came from humble beginnings and still kept there cool with all their fame. Although their roots were Punk, Strummer was very much against the Skin-head movement, he made music for all people. Johnny Appleseed, he's talking about MLK.
you tell em joe!!! rip great man
Loved the Joe who used to spend few words about something right, with a disillusioned point of view like he didn't need cameras and interviewers to spread his message, cause he was out of media's target. This one (Joe) is too longwinded, too much emphasis like he had no chances of showing the band's opinion except for the tv-way. Actually this is what really changed in The Clash's ideas: how to get in touch with people.
+Sara Zavarella He seems fed up in this interview. They were going through some shit at this point in time. Gotta admire his passion and desire to get his word out. Why they're our biggest influence!
well said
I think the word Joe was looking for is "gentrification".
WOW.
@perkinso1 He may be a lunatic? WTF?!? They're the ones who shake things up.
With that comment on 'overdubbing a trashcan rolling down the stairs'...do you think he meant 'Blasphemous rumours' of Depeche Mode?
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You know there was a clip here of them on Letterman and it disapeared. It just vanished. These producers and directors just can't stand seeing their material somewhere and NO REVENUE or royalties coming in. There was a clip of The Smithereens on SNL doing The Blues before and After. That one also disappeared. I do remember Fridays though! Thanks for the feedback.
Paul looks very deflated
joe ready to sock somebody
jesus christ hes fuckin nuts in this vid
The Clash was dead by this time. Joe was trying to keep it going but it was BS. He would admit as much later on. I have to agree, not his best moments but overall he was a great man who, like most of us, learned from his mistakes. A boss I once had said to me "how come no one remembers the 99 things I do right and only remember the one thing I did wrong". I have experienced this also and basically only stupid twatsfocus on one mistake and not the entirety of a persons life and/or work.
no more joe teeth
I think the double tracking of everything was specifically cited for The Card Cheat, but yeah, there was tons of overdubs throughout the record.
It's worth noting that Buddy Holly double tracked his vocals and that was "roots rock" that Joe was supposedly all about at this point.
@digivate the clash disn't pretend anything joe strummer may not have been proud of hionts background pre clash but he soon didnt care... the clash were what they were!!! there was no pretence they sung about things that fucking matter classes dont!!! just a nother form of division!
just tough watching this. i was always a strummer guy and he's just off the rails here. you can't blame him totally for the break up - even Mick concedes that but he doesn't come across all too great in this.
This is really hard to watch, one of the most incredible, creative and interesting artists of the 20th century reverted to this...
cocaine's a hell of a drug I guess.
"five like we was originally when we started out. baaahh."
Joe had his teeth fixed at this point. I still remember him doing London Calling on Letterman. US. TV Debut, spit slinging over the mike I think the chipped tooth added to this.
I have Two Favorite Bands,Linkin Park And The Clash And To See Joe Strummer Just Going On And On While Paul Simonon Sits Their In Silence Just Shows You How Far The Clash Has fallen
aww no more joe teeth.
"Cut the crap Joe! al he said is the overproduced album that he made... wtf Joe???
"5 like we was originally when we started out"
The fuck Is he talking about?
He's talking about the Clash early original lineup of five including both Mick Jones and Keith Levene on guitars, before the recording of the first album.
too bad cut the crap didn't quite go back to the roots with its drum machine....
Thank the Dictator Bernie for that!
the clash played the game as did everyone they played it well, very quickly finding out ideals do not pay for meals .if the public are buying , you are selling.r&r lesson number 1.
these blokes knew who was buttering their bread,father chrismass had nothing to do with it.
Hell, I agree with Joe here, music is blando, overproduced shit. How about some real music again?
@whitedwarf13
he was also off his mind at this point with crack, i dont think he knows what hes saying
"Blando, blando, blando ..." What made The Clash great was that they made an enormous amount of wonderful music in little more than five years (77 to 82), rarely if ever repeating themselves. This rant is just embarrassing reactionary nonsense, heavily influenced by Bernie, which even Joe would later admit.
I love The Clash but this is just pathetic. IMO Strummer was always a bit childish in his opinions but this is too much. He wanted to bring back Bernie, he wasnt patient enough with Topper (they should have given him some time to deal with drug addiction), he wanted to sack Mick, he paid the price. Lets remember the real Clash, not this crap.
Giving topper some time???? By the time Joe died topper was still not clean. Mick was a diva and fed up with not being the frontman, he didn't want to tour and didn't show up to rehearsals- makes it at one point impossible to work with. Joe could have handled it different maybe, talking it out and taking a break and not let Bernie play him like a fiddle. But he isn't solely to blame. And he paid a high price for the clash falling apart. Always wanting for them to get back together, not having any success and then dying. For a band that was so anti rockstars they sure became exactly that. Sex,drugs and their huge egos because of their success, completely losing sight of why they wanted to do what they did in the first place.