We just ordered one specifically because we want an off-road vehicle that can also be a daily driver in the city. Also the longevity of Toyota components means we can keep it for a long time knowing it’s going to be reliable.
@@pedrolopez7038 absolutely ridiculous. After my dad bought a 2010 prado, I fell in love with them. He was lucky enough to buy one in very good condition with a couple extras like bull bar and tow bar for $21,000 Aud. The same car without the bull bar or any extras + more klm/miles on the clock is now as I've found a minimum of $30,000
@@thedrummerdamo I tested drive a fortuner because I liked them but then drove the prado! Massive difference! But the price gap is big too! I don’t think i can afford the prado 🤣 so fortuner will be
I watch your videos from Africa, Angola 🇦🇴 and we have A LOT of Hiluxs and Fortuners around here! Me and my dad both drive Hilux and my mom drives a Fortuner. In my country we are mostly Toyota lovers no doubt!
perfect car for the 3rd world plus 3rd world militia and insurgents love them as well, very good cheap warwagon, if the taliban were driving nissan navarras, afghanistan might still be safe
Same in Indonesia, same goes for Mitsubishi Pajero Sport. It is almost as if the whole ladder frame SUV market in Indonesia is heavily cartelized by both Toyota and Mitsubishi
Here in the Philippines, there are 5 variants of the fortuner, and the 3 higher end models have wireless Qi charging pad below the center console. The two top variants are called LTD which have 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains, with the 4x4 LTD being the top model. Other countries like in malaysia and thailand, the top spec variant they have is called the Legender.
That’s interesting - here in South Africa, the Fortuner has historically been a major seller in this segment. Increasingly, other cars like the Ford and Mitsubishi are becoming more common on the roads.
Yeah, Fortuners are everywhere. It's a game for me to try spot a MUX or Pajero sport. I wonder why South Africans are obsessed with the Fortuner? They are also the most hijacked car I believe.
Still very uncomfortable ride even if it is 2022. I have a Wildtrak Ford 2019 and a Fortuner 2021 and man has Ford improved comfort wise . You will have butt bricks if you commute in a Fortuner without any u cushion haha. Also from South Africa.
My son and I tested the interior of all the 7 seat ute-based off-roaders. We were especially interested in the 3rd row (which is almost the entire point of buying one!!!). What we found was the Toyota was the worst. The most important thing for comfort is some height between the seat base and the floor. If it's almost flush there is no way to actually sit on the seat. Your thighs make a steep angle up. Only the Ford and Isuzu were somewhat comfortable. This also includes the Holden by default, but that's no longer in production. I also didn't like the price or DPF issues from Toyota. The Ford was mostly fine. But too expensive and requires ad-blue. This is a hidden extra fuel cost. We finally opted for the Isuzu MU-X as it ticked all the boxes (quality, reliability, price, comfort, resale value). That was 2 years ago and no regrets. Love it.
The official "Get out the way" mobile in South East Asia. Anyways, I kinda find it weird that Australia doesn't get a 360° Camera, considering other countries (including my country, Indonesia) get such features.
@@CarExpertAus also I noticed this Fortuner has a 5-link rear suspension I believe? I don't understand why Toyota Australia chose this setup, considering the fact that other countries get a 4-link setup, hence, a more comfortable ride (though still harsh at certain times).
@@vitoaditya8337 Not sure how true it is, but over here in South Africa we also have the 5 link setup. When I asked a Toyota representative, he explained that in SA and Australia their customers want more off road capable set ups, hence we have those. I always take everything I hear with a pince of salt, but just sharing what I've heard.
Here in myanmar, people see Fortuners as a vehicle that transports monks but are absolutely reckless drivers. I own a Land Cruiser (2013 ZX), and people much rather appreciate even an old Land Cruiser over a brand new Fortuner.
Thanks again Paul for your excellent analysis. Your conclusion re looking in preference at the Everest or Pajero Sport is the decision we are now making. Test drove the Sport today and will drive the Everest next week. Your reviews have helped us toward our decision. Thanks mate!
The Everest drives well but Troll Facebook groups for all 3, Everest has the most ‘issues’ comments, with a distant second being the Pajero Sport and with nearly no issues it’s the Fortuner. I have almost write off the Everest because of it, I’m ok going to dealers for regular service - which notably is more regular with a Fortuner - but I don’t need all the issues. PS seems ok but has some niggles according to owner experiences.
I've had one since 2016. Had a few issues with the DPF at 70,000 kms. initially but got fixed with a new DPF and an upgraded software. Since then my family has done 350,000 kms in it. It's been to the snow, the mountains, crossed rivers, done a lot of beach driving, freeway, offroading on its stock form. So far I've only changed tyres, oil, filters, and brake pads. That's it. I tried to trade it in with a Prado last June but after testing the 2021 Prado, I didn't think the Prado was an upgrade. I thought the prado was heavy and underpowered (they have exactly the same engine). I never felt so happy going back to the Fortuner. I hope this helps.
Have a 3 year old Crusade which I love driving. Weighing up the new bells and whistles I don’t think I would upgrade at present for the changeover cost. Removing the 3rd row does give you heaps more room, but removing them is a big job. Great honest review mate 👍
Be very careful about removing seats … in most states that is ( believe it or not) a vehicle modification that may require a ( expensive) engineer’s certificate. Furthermore check your insurance policy carefully because some insurers e.g. Suncorp simply refuse to cover a ‘modified’ vehicle.
@@geoffharrower2845 did that and no problems. Personally, I wouldn't touch Suncorp with a burning stick. My insurer is ok with a ARB Smartbar and roof Pod etc.
@@geoffharrower2845 i found with NRMA,their policies are too expensive and then you pay the same amount for the car being insured for less as time goes on
@@anthonyramdin1037 Everyone loves Mitsubishi automobiles. Ever wonder what the three diamonds are? They are the blades of airplane propellers. The same company that made the infamous Zero used to spearhead the attack on Pearl Harbor- is on American roads today. If you don't hold the corporations and their owners accountable, you certainly can't count on the "market" to do it. Plus bad reliability I'm those cars.
i think the reason why toyota improves the hilux but not the fortuner is because the fortuner is designed primarily for developing countries while the hilux is more of a global model. in developing countries, all it takes for the fortuner to sell is the name itself, which is considered as a status symbol. so toyota didn't bother spending extra on improvements bcos they can easily get away with it. I have a 2010 model fortuner, and the improvements when they launched the new one at 2016 weren't all that significant (even local reviewers in my country agree with this)
tbh not even americans have good luck with the 4runner that they have. Toyota is simply not updating it because of reasons and because their pickups seem to be more popular
I think the problem of the fortuners is always the ride comfort, those suspensions are crap since the day it launched, and plus the weird third row seats.
Only Toyota fanboys appreciate the Fortuner regardless of what the competition is offering. The ride is legendary, it got me almost puking despite the fact that it was driven on paved roads.
The revised setup is supposed to be a notable improvement, only a test drive will tell. I guess there is always aftermarket, fox or old man emu are apparently good.
I believe if you remove seats 6 & 7 from the vehicle, the cargo space becomes larger than that of the Prado. (Note: In Victoria, VicRoads needs to be advised its then a 5 seater.)
So I've got the lowest specs basic Fortuner because it was (most probably) the only new car without an ipad in 2021. The low-spec is all manual - 5MT, no assistants and whatnot, so I can drive a real car, not a computer that drives a car. No wireless updates, no modern glitchy slow stuff, only me and the mud. 🤘
Hi Paul , have you thought about doing a night time test of the cars headlights that you test ? Because each car headlights are different and it would make you stand out from the other car reviewers .
This is literally the vehicle I have been researching this week against the PS, mate you are a mind reader, two for two! Can’t wait to see if you think it’s worth the extra $$ for that Toyota durability (feeling).
@@marcusj4467 Paul did a review on the ps a while back, idk if you saw it already. I have a 2.5 l triton so I can testify of their mits reliability and I also have a 120 series prado which is also reliable but with Toyota they are very overpriced and severely lacking in features compared to mits
Every three row vehicle from Toyota in the 90's and early 2000's (except the Sequoia, Highlander and Sienna) had that feature, including the Lexus models. Even today, the Toyota Land Cruiser (200 series) and Lexus LX still have their third rows like that. I have no idea why they wouldn't change it.
Cracking review! I own a 2017, and it's been okay for me. But sometimes, I have it in the back of my head that I should have bought the Pajero Sport instead. Since Toyota has improved the Hilux but not the Fortuner, do you think the Hilux is more comfortable now than the Fortuner?
I looked at all the models and test drove most the new fortuner is a much better car then the pajero sport. The Everest build quality is laughable and the vibration through the accelerator I couldn't live a week with and the mux although a nice car was so dated it was like buying a 10 year old car. And the new mux coming looks like a great wall =/
This rear seat set up is better because I don’t use so I can easy take it off. Other way leaves you with a hole and hard for rear draw system. This car is better for Turing and 4x4 than a Pajero sport. If I want a family car I’ll get the kluger. I need it more 4x4 than family suv
I have only had my new Fortuner for 2 weeks but already I have enjoyed it immensely. I am so glad that I bought the Fortuner and not the Pajero Sport. The Pajero Sport is still a good vehicle but the Fortuner has such a classy solid rugged feel to it. It drive so well and I think that some of the reviews on UA-cam do it a great injustice. It is a brilliant 4wd SUV.
16:46 Just a correction; it shouldn't be driven on sealed surfaces in 4wd, as you know. Good review though, I'm a fan of the interior in the Fortuner, would be nice if the Hilux borrowed some of the more luxurious features.
I notices that too; I think he meant to say 'on unsealed surfaces'. Sometimes this happens when you memorize a speech and want to deliver it under pressure. I once mentioned Crows as being 'the only mammals that can recognize themselves in the mirror', by missing the 'non-' ! :)))
This is actually the first time I've seen that the Fortruner isn't that popular. Here in SA on the other hand...pretty much every suburban mom owns one. The hilux and the fortuner share almost the same reputation here in SA
I've driven both Ford everest/endeavours and the fortuner and I can honestly say Ford has the best Infotainment in all this utility based SUVs period even the interior of Ford is way more elegant
Finally! I've been waiting for this review of this top-spec model, some other Aussie car reviewers only just reviewed the GX and GXL models of the Fortuner. Thanks a lot Paul and the CarExpert team! Watching from the Philippines. 👍🙂🇵🇭
Well I have now 3 and yes we make it as we want it, wont buy anything else. I think if you own it and drive a fee months you really learn to know the vehicle and realise its worth. But I like your videos watch quite a few for interest. At the end it is each to his own and everybody has different opinions on things. Value for money wise I could not do better.... keep well Paul!
I am waiting for the exact same old and colour in the video I cannot wait for it to arrive. When I took it for a test drive OMG wow it’s one damm powerful car
Hi Paul, do you think the ride on the Fortuner is acceptable compared to its peers (PS, Everest)? I understand vehicles in this segment won’t ride as good as a monocoque SUV,
I had five good years out of my toyota fortuner did everything I wanted it to and yes you do get use to a vehicle and got use to the ride and the seat practically but did remove the third row as I didn’t use it and it did hamper the cargo area but I would still buy another as I did like mine but alas I have gone green and just taken delivery of my rav 4 hybrid!!!
Just purchased a Crusade model. I think bang for buck, it's definitely up there in terms of value, not something you normally get with Toyota products. Definitely a vehicle that slots in between the Kluger (which I know is not a serious off roader) and a Prado wagon. I found the engine is quite punchy for a medium large capacity 4 cylinder Diesel, and well matched to the 6 speed Aisin transmission putting the power to the wheels very well without to much loss. Time will tell with reliability, but I'm confident with Toyota's near perfect record that it should be ok. I do wished that the GR Sport model which is currently only sold in Thailand was available here in Australia with the more powerful 165kw 550NM version of the 2.8 litre engine. Probably not enough volume of Fortune's being sold here at present. I would guess in the not distant future a Hybrid version may also come out.
Isn't the reason for the larger Toyota logo is to accomodate/hide the radar unit for the (radar) cruise control? Isn't the radar unit mounted behind the logo?
Bought a new 2021 Crusade version just one month ago, I just like the concept of the ruggedness of a Hilux morphed with luxury SUV. It feels so solid, it's a Toyota so I'm pretty sure it's here for the long haul. Very reminiscent of my '92 Fourunner that was a great vehicle, it did lots and lots of kilometers reliably. Happy as!!!
@@Hillzy_Eighty7ours is Silver Sky colour, (would have preferred white, but was on it's way when we bought it, ordered for dealer stock, so can't complain, at least it was instantly available). Like it very much but haven't been doing much driving. We live in the city, only 1200 klm on the clock thus far, it's a nice to drive vehicle, also been good on fuel, will be getting more road trip use in 2022. Edit, Just wondering what sort of delivery time they're quoting you, there still some "lag" in manufacturing. I was originally quoted 6months from the first dealership I approached.
@@gazzafloss we were told expect 6 months which suits us fine anyway.Took a GXL for a test drive before putting a deposit down,and i was surprised how well they get up and go This is coming from someone whos last 4x4 was a 98 non turbo diesel lux 😅
@@Hillzy_Eighty7 you will notice the difference, the Fortuna is rapid when it kicks down to overtake, you can really feel that 500nm of torque. Our 92 Forunner was a V6 petrol, it'd pass everything but a petrol station.
I like the concept too mate, we just ordered a white GXL with leather option. 6-8 months wait at the moment but may come sooner if the Factory in Thailand gets a wiggle on. They feel so solid and drives bloody great with the updated 2.8 engine. Happy motoring!
The ride quality feels rough but we all know, it’s based off the Hilux which is a robust working vehicle. The take off from idle is also noticeable and not the smoothest. It’s best driven with sport mode etc turned on to get a smoother ride.
Jeez I wish I could get one. Here in the US we get the 4runner which I guess is the equivalent but ever since I found out about the Fortuner, I've been wanting one
I had a 2015 Everest (my first choice) that turned out to be a lemon, so I changed to the 2016 Crusade. I agree with all of your disappointments (rear seats, ride quality, overall package), which it is why it was not my preferred vehicle. But after the pain inflicted by the Everest, I went for the safety of the Toyota brand. With 95k on the clock now, I have grown to respect it and appreciate the security of reliability. It is very good offroad (except for the limited rear locker activation that you mention) and I have set it up for towing and offroad touring. Overall, very happy but tend to agree with your summation.
Ford Everest sucks man. Everyone bashes the fortuner and praises the Everest but to be honest, it’s because they never went through owning both. If they did they will know why the fortuner costs more. It lasts 3 times more.
Here in the middle east you can a v6 4.0 which produces about 35 more hp and quite more torque than the fortuner that is used in the video. It also has premium leather
Your review is great, I just realised I don't like the middle and back passenger space and boot space. Rather get an H1 or VW bus etc, my 5 passengers will be comfy and there will be luggage space
to be fair, most 4wds even those with flat folding can have the third row seat easily removed. i've seen prados, mu-xs, and colorado 7/trailblazers set up without 3rd row seats.
Fortuner is an overpriced crap. My dad owns it and very happy with his car. But yeah, in my opinion, the car interior is not well built, with overwhelming amount of low quality plastics and bad faux leather.
Hello mate, I heard at the 16:47 mark you mention the car can only be used in 4H on 'sealed surfaces'............ It's my understanding that you can only use 4H and 4L on UNSEALED surfaces. i.e. gravel roads, mud, sand, snow etc. Using 4H on a sealed surface i.e. bitumen would cause 4wd bind up in the transfer case and damage it. Can you confirm you meant to say 'unsealed' rather than 'sealed'. This is the key drive train difference between the Fortuner and the Prado I thought, the latter which is a full time 4wd.
I've run a forty since they launched in Aus in 2015. After 150,000km including Fraser Island, Simpson Desert and annual trips up into the high country there are a couple of points that I think are worth considering. It's not too comfy, especially compared to a Prado. Ride comfort was much better after the usual off-road mods. (bullbar, 2inch lift and rear seat row delete/storage drawers install) You will spend more setting up the Prado for off-road work than the Forty, but the Prado is a better albeit pricier option for on road comfort. The one to get is the GX. There is just not the difference between the trim levels to justify the cost. DPF is still an unknown quantity. I'd buy another one tomorrow, but I think this one will look after my needs for a while yet!
I was shopping between the prado and the fortuner gr sport, the prado is 500 pounds heavier, it’s not as nimble. The suspension is softer so there is a lot of body roll, the fortuner has auto lift gate, wireless charger, prado has the Land Cruiser name but when I test drove both I really loved the fortuner gr s so I went with that. Both are nice.
That wood grain did actually start out as a tree in the Cretaceous period before becoming fossilised, dug up and turned into plastic, so it is Real Wood after all. Same with the seat trim, genuine syntho cow hide.
This is the OG car here in India, every top minister or gangster has this car in their fleet.
And in pakistan too 😁😁
@@SamKhan-lk5pf 👍👍
@@SamKhan-lk5pf here everybody has it
Yer don’t see many here in Australia, see a lot more prados, hiluxs, 200S, 76 and ,79s landscruiser. Everything but hahaha
But not with privacy glass🥲
We just ordered one specifically because we want an off-road vehicle that can also be a daily driver in the city. Also the longevity of Toyota components means we can keep it for a long time knowing it’s going to be reliable.
and is cheaper than a prado 🤣
@@pedrolopez7038 absolutely ridiculous. After my dad bought a 2010 prado, I fell in love with them. He was lucky enough to buy one in very good condition with a couple extras like bull bar and tow bar for $21,000 Aud. The same car without the bull bar or any extras + more klm/miles on the clock is now as I've found a minimum of $30,000
@@thedrummerdamo I tested drive a fortuner because I liked them but then drove the prado! Massive difference! But the price gap is big too! I don’t think i can afford the prado 🤣 so fortuner will be
I watch your videos from Africa, Angola 🇦🇴 and we have A LOT of Hiluxs and Fortuners around here! Me and my dad both drive Hilux and my mom drives a Fortuner. In my country we are mostly Toyota lovers no doubt!
perfect car for the 3rd world plus 3rd world militia and insurgents love them as well, very good cheap warwagon, if the taliban were driving nissan navarras, afghanistan might still be safe
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@@djizzah Isis lost the war when they changed from hilux to Navara!!!
Here in South Africa, the Fortuner is the best selling ute based SUV by miles. They are everywhere.
In india they cost 70000 us$
Literally everywhere
Same in Indonesia, same goes for Mitsubishi Pajero Sport. It is almost as if the whole ladder frame SUV market in Indonesia is heavily cartelized by both Toyota and Mitsubishi
Waiting for so long, yet there it is. Thanks Paul 🙏
Thanks for your patience!
Absolutely
@@CarExpertAus Hi Paul, how does this compare to the Prado? In NZ the Prado VX and top spec fortuner are only 10k apart.
If that's the case, prado should be better choice. In Australia, they are 20k apart, still more prado buyers. I think more ppl choose Prado gxl.
Here in the Philippines, there are 5 variants of the fortuner, and the 3 higher end models have wireless Qi charging pad below the center console. The two top variants are called LTD which have 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains, with the 4x4 LTD being the top model. Other countries like in malaysia and thailand, the top spec variant they have is called the Legender.
The words Models/Trims/Versions are better to say than "Variants". And the Legender in Malaysia is called the VRZ.
Thanks for that information!
@@CarExpertAus you’re welcome and your viewer here from the 🇵🇭!
@@CarExpertAus wat about side mirror lights feature
When I went to the philippines this January I saw fortuners EVERYWHERE!!!
This review came out at perfect timing couldn't be better, considering the Fortuner. Thanks Paul
That’s interesting - here in South Africa, the Fortuner has historically been a major seller in this segment. Increasingly, other cars like the Ford and Mitsubishi are becoming more common on the roads.
Yeah, Fortuners are everywhere. It's a game for me to try spot a MUX or Pajero sport. I wonder why South Africans are obsessed with the Fortuner? They are also the most hijacked car I believe.
Landcruiser and Prado are far more popular than the Fortuner in Australia
@@gde1989 yeah, think those are out of most South Africans budgets.
same here in the Philippines - Fortuner are everywhere while Everest, Terra (Nissan) and Pajero sport are lagging far behind. Not sure why, though.
Still very uncomfortable ride even if it is 2022. I have a Wildtrak Ford 2019 and a Fortuner 2021 and man has Ford improved comfort wise .
You will have butt bricks if you commute in a Fortuner without any u cushion haha.
Also from South Africa.
I’ve got the latest Fortuner GXL with premium leather interior and love it! Great for the family and feels good off road too.
My son and I tested the interior of all the 7 seat ute-based off-roaders. We were especially interested in the 3rd row (which is almost the entire point of buying one!!!). What we found was the Toyota was the worst. The most important thing for comfort is some height between the seat base and the floor. If it's almost flush there is no way to actually sit on the seat. Your thighs make a steep angle up. Only the Ford and Isuzu were somewhat comfortable. This also includes the Holden by default, but that's no longer in production. I also didn't like the price or DPF issues from Toyota. The Ford was mostly fine. But too expensive and requires ad-blue. This is a hidden extra fuel cost. We finally opted for the Isuzu MU-X as it ticked all the boxes (quality, reliability, price, comfort, resale value). That was 2 years ago and no regrets. Love it.
I love wood grain, when done right it’s classy. When done wrong it’s terrible though!
Cracks though... mine cracked, got it replaced with new steering wheel.. cracked again.. checked others at dealers and they also cracked...
The official "Get out the way" mobile in South East Asia.
Anyways, I kinda find it weird that Australia doesn't get a 360° Camera, considering other countries (including my country, Indonesia) get such features.
True!
@@CarExpertAus also I noticed this Fortuner has a 5-link rear suspension I believe? I don't understand why Toyota Australia chose this setup, considering the fact that other countries get a 4-link setup, hence, a more comfortable ride (though still harsh at certain times).
@@vitoaditya8337 Not sure how true it is, but over here in South Africa we also have the 5 link setup. When I asked a Toyota representative, he explained that in SA and Australia their customers want more off road capable set ups, hence we have those. I always take everything I hear with a pince of salt, but just sharing what I've heard.
Here in myanmar, people see Fortuners as a vehicle that transports monks but are absolutely reckless drivers. I own a Land Cruiser (2013 ZX), and people much rather appreciate even an old Land Cruiser over a brand new Fortuner.
Boost your arrogance by 200% by just driving a Fortuner (or a Pajero)
Thank you Paul,finally Fortuner is here🙌🏽🙌🏽
As usual, most imformative review in the world 👍🇱🇰
Thanks again Paul for your excellent analysis. Your conclusion re looking in preference at the Everest or Pajero Sport is the decision we are now making. Test drove the Sport today and will drive the Everest next week. Your reviews have helped us toward our decision. Thanks mate!
Thanks and keep us posted on what you end up with!
The Everest drives well but Troll Facebook groups for all 3, Everest has the most ‘issues’ comments, with a distant second being the Pajero Sport and with nearly no issues it’s the Fortuner. I have almost write off the Everest because of it, I’m ok going to dealers for regular service - which notably is more regular with a Fortuner - but I don’t need all the issues. PS seems ok but has some niggles according to owner experiences.
@@marcusj4467 , thanks for the info Marcus. Appreciate your feedback!
I've had one since 2016. Had a few issues with the DPF at 70,000 kms. initially but got fixed with a new DPF and an upgraded software. Since then my family has done 350,000 kms in it.
It's been to the snow, the mountains, crossed rivers, done a lot of beach driving, freeway, offroading on its stock form. So far I've only changed tyres, oil, filters, and brake pads. That's it. I tried to trade it in with a Prado last June but after testing the 2021 Prado, I didn't think the Prado was an upgrade. I thought the prado was heavy and underpowered (they have exactly the same engine). I never felt so happy going back to the Fortuner. I hope this helps.
Have a 3 year old Crusade which I love driving. Weighing up the new bells and whistles I don’t think I would upgrade at present for the changeover cost. Removing the 3rd row does give you heaps more room, but removing them is a big job. Great honest review mate 👍
Be very careful about removing seats … in most states that is ( believe it or not) a vehicle modification that may require a ( expensive) engineer’s certificate. Furthermore check your insurance policy carefully because some insurers e.g. Suncorp simply refuse to cover a ‘modified’ vehicle.
@@geoffharrower2845 did that and no problems. Personally, I wouldn't touch Suncorp with a burning stick. My insurer is ok with a ARB Smartbar and roof Pod etc.
@@geoffharrower2845 thats why you insure with Shannons
@@Hillzy_Eighty7 NRMA were no issue... but the vehicle still must be compliant
@@geoffharrower2845 i found with NRMA,their policies are too expensive and then you pay the same amount for the car being insured for less as time goes on
For what it’s worth, my opinion is I’m glad I just bought a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport GLS for $51k. Nuff said. 😉👍
Yeah that's an excellent choice, because you're getting more tech for the cheaper price. Plus Mitsubishi are also pretty reliable vehicles.
Really awesome vehicle, great choice mate
@@anthonyramdin1037 Everyone loves Mitsubishi automobiles. Ever wonder what the three diamonds are? They are the blades of airplane propellers. The same company that made the infamous Zero used to spearhead the attack on Pearl Harbor- is on American roads today. If you don't hold the corporations and their owners accountable, you certainly can't count on the "market" to do it.
Plus bad reliability I'm those cars.
Brand new for 51k?
just bought a new fortuner 4/4 AT. pretty happy with it
i think the reason why toyota improves the hilux but not the fortuner is because the fortuner is designed primarily for developing countries while the hilux is more of a global model. in developing countries, all it takes for the fortuner to sell is the name itself, which is considered as a status symbol. so toyota didn't bother spending extra on improvements bcos they can easily get away with it. I have a 2010 model fortuner, and the improvements when they launched the new one at 2016 weren't all that significant (even local reviewers in my country agree with this)
just bought a great 2006 model, had a look at 2016 and they are not that different. Saved me a 100k
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tbh not even americans have good luck with the 4runner that they have. Toyota is simply not updating it because of reasons and because their pickups seem to be more popular
just read your name and i wonder where is louis ? :))
Brilliant review Paul, keep up the great work! 🔥
Thanks mate!
My mom had the first gen fortuner. Was the same as the hilix of that era as well. Was a great vehicle
I think the problem of the fortuners is always the ride comfort, those suspensions are crap since the day it launched, and plus the weird third row seats.
You’re right - the suspension is quite firm.
they havent changed the 3rd row design since the first gen
@@josefmprable Yes. Idk what they're thinking, that's a big downside when it comes to cargo space especially it's a compact SUV.
Only Toyota fanboys appreciate the Fortuner regardless of what the competition is offering. The ride is legendary, it got me almost puking despite the fact that it was driven on paved roads.
The revised setup is supposed to be a notable improvement, only a test drive will tell. I guess there is always aftermarket, fox or old man emu are apparently good.
I believe if you remove seats 6 & 7 from the vehicle, the cargo space becomes larger than that of the Prado. (Note: In Victoria, VicRoads needs to be advised its then a 5 seater.)
How do you manage that if you just remove them from time to time?
What they don't know won't hurt them :) Given its only occasional, I'm sure it won't be a problem @@ianwilliams8448
So I've got the lowest specs basic Fortuner because it was (most probably) the only new car without an ipad in 2021. The low-spec is all manual - 5MT, no assistants and whatnot, so I can drive a real car, not a computer that drives a car. No wireless updates, no modern glitchy slow stuff, only me and the mud. 🤘
I always enjoy your review all the way here in the Carribbean
Thanks for watching!
@@CarExpertAus You're welcome
Hi Paul , have you thought about doing a night time test of the cars headlights that you test ? Because each car headlights are different and it would make you stand out from the other car reviewers .
I wish we got that in the US. I think it looks better than our 4Runner. However we are supposed to be getting an update next year.
wow, glad to see a UA-camr from Melbourne Vic.
Hope that you'd make a review for the 2021 MUX soon. Great videos, keep it up.
I like your reviews alot, i always learn something new
Thanks for watching!
I see that u have some new features for the video! Nice review as always , Paul!
This is literally the vehicle I have been researching this week against the PS, mate you are a mind reader, two for two! Can’t wait to see if you think it’s worth the extra $$ for that Toyota durability (feeling).
😅 glad we could help! It’s a tough call between the two, I think the PS is better value for money.
I have mate with 2020 PS exceed. When we inspect under chasis.
Pajero sport is definitely the go
@@anthonyramdin1037 I’m not so sure, both have some strong points but thanks for the PS recommendation
@@marcusj4467 Paul did a review on the ps a while back, idk if you saw it already. I have a 2.5 l triton so I can testify of their mits reliability and I also have a 120 series prado which is also reliable but with Toyota they are very overpriced and severely lacking in features compared to mits
Here in the philippines Fortuner #1 SUV ... Fortuna... proud owner of fortuner...
I wish we had this in the USA I would definitely drive it
The Fortuner is a big hit in South Africa
Gonna get pajero thank you
We had a 1997 Mitsubishi Pajero that had the same 3rd row seating configuration. Annoying to lift up and resulted in less cargo space.
Agreed!
Every three row vehicle from Toyota in the 90's and early 2000's (except the Sequoia, Highlander and Sienna) had that feature, including the Lexus models. Even today, the Toyota Land Cruiser (200 series) and Lexus LX still have their third rows like that. I have no idea why they wouldn't change it.
Thank you so much. Always the best review. 1st liker
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I love your channel bro. Keep it up!
Thanks mate!
13:10 hooks are for the seats coming down and they are very handy when kitting out car to anchor platforms
Am here in Germiston RSA watching your Preview Bro!
Fortuner is one of the best selling suv's in South Africa. Kind of seen as a status symbol.
In Botswana as well but i feel like nowadays Toyota is a total rip off
All this 7 seaters popularity & I have never seen any with the 3rd row being used
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Brought one. I like they are not too popular
Cracking review! I own a 2017, and it's been okay for me. But sometimes, I have it in the back of my head that I should have bought the Pajero Sport instead. Since Toyota has improved the Hilux but not the Fortuner, do you think the Hilux is more comfortable now than the Fortuner?
I personally think it feels better to drive. The ride is nicer in the new HiLux.
I looked at all the models and test drove most the new fortuner is a much better car then the pajero sport. The Everest build quality is laughable and the vibration through the accelerator I couldn't live a week with and the mux although a nice car was so dated it was like buying a 10 year old car. And the new mux coming looks like a great wall =/
The 2024 Fortuner is much more comfy ride than 2017.. I have 2017 and 2x 2024.... My 2017 is much harsher than my 2024 units
Very Nice review.
The reason these don’t sell well, would be that the prado exists. It was the same with the 4Runner or hilux surf.
For value the Pajero sport is a better car and those 3rd row seats are just terrible - Toyota need to up the game
They ride on the 'reliability' name and neglect almost every other aspect of their vehicles and tbh they aren't all that reliable again.
Pajero might be OK if you're under 6ft tall. I'm 6'2 and when sitting in the Pajero half my vision is taken up by the roof line
@@anthonyramdin1037 Nah they’re more reliable Mitsubishi.
This rear seat set up is better because I don’t use so I can easy take it off. Other way leaves you with a hole and hard for rear draw system. This car is better for Turing and 4x4 than a Pajero sport. If I want a family car I’ll get the kluger. I need it more 4x4 than family suv
@@MADTAS4 Oath. I am 6'3 and wasn't for me so I chose Fortuner
I have only had my new Fortuner for 2 weeks but already I have enjoyed it immensely. I am so glad that I bought the Fortuner and not the Pajero Sport. The Pajero Sport is still a good vehicle but the Fortuner has such a classy solid rugged feel to it. It drive so well and I think that some of the reviews on UA-cam do it a great injustice. It is a brilliant 4wd SUV.
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16:46 Just a correction; it shouldn't be driven on sealed surfaces in 4wd, as you know. Good review though, I'm a fan of the interior in the Fortuner, would be nice if the Hilux borrowed some of the more luxurious features.
I notices that too; I think he meant to say 'on unsealed surfaces'. Sometimes this happens when you memorize a speech and want to deliver it under pressure. I once mentioned Crows as being 'the only mammals that can recognize themselves in the mirror', by missing the 'non-' ! :)))
This is actually the first time I've seen that the Fortruner isn't that popular. Here in SA on the other hand...pretty much every suburban mom owns one. The hilux and the fortuner share almost the same reputation here in SA
I've driven both Ford everest/endeavours and the fortuner and I can honestly say Ford has the best Infotainment in all this utility based SUVs period even the interior of Ford is way more elegant
But won’t last long. It always breaks down and needs repairs…. It’s a low quality car that’s why they need to make it pretty.
The Downhill Assist Control (DAC) works only in 4L. You used it in 4H hence it didn’t work. It actually works great.
Finally! I've been waiting for this review of this top-spec model, some other Aussie car reviewers only just reviewed the GX and GXL models of the Fortuner. Thanks a lot Paul and the CarExpert team! Watching from the Philippines. 👍🙂🇵🇭
Thanks for watching!
Well I have now 3 and yes we make it as we want it, wont buy anything else.
I think if you own it and drive a fee months you really learn to know the vehicle and realise its worth. But I like your videos watch quite a few for interest. At the end it is each to his own and everybody has different opinions on things. Value for money wise I could not do better.... keep well Paul!
I am waiting for the exact same old and colour in the video I cannot wait for it to arrive. When I took it for a test drive OMG wow it’s one damm powerful car
Hi Paul, do you think the ride on the Fortuner is acceptable compared to its peers (PS, Everest)?
I understand vehicles in this segment won’t ride as good as a monocoque SUV,
I think the badges are getting bigger as they’re becoming the “satellite dishes” for adaptive cruise control etc
Blows my mind as to why they wont bring the 4runner TRD to the Australian market
4runner isn’t offered in RHD and Diesel engine option.
This is my favourite car hope to buy it one day
I had five good years out of my toyota fortuner did everything I wanted it to and yes you do get use to a vehicle and got use to the ride and the seat practically but did remove the third row as I didn’t use it and it did hamper the cargo area but I would still buy another as I did like mine but alas I have gone green and just taken delivery of my rav 4 hybrid!!!
Hybrid isn't green
I nearly bought a full set of interior woodgrain inserts for my 2010 Audi A3 and the only reason I didn't is because I like piano black more!
The gangsters and rich people in my country love this suv.
I love the new Fortuner! Amazing vehicle!
this car is massive popular in india
it's considered as the "tough baller" car
Just purchased a Crusade model. I think bang for buck, it's definitely up there in terms of value, not something you normally get with Toyota products. Definitely a vehicle that slots in between the Kluger (which I know is not a serious off roader) and a Prado wagon. I found the engine is quite punchy for a medium large capacity 4 cylinder Diesel, and well matched to the 6 speed Aisin transmission putting the power to the wheels very well without to much loss. Time will tell with reliability, but I'm confident with Toyota's near perfect record that it should be ok. I do wished that the GR Sport model which is currently only sold in Thailand was available here in Australia with the more powerful 165kw 550NM version of the 2.8 litre engine. Probably not enough volume of Fortune's being sold here at present. I would guess in the not distant future a Hybrid version may also come out.
Our new family car I love this suv
For a vehicle that size and being families that would buy it, it really needs a front and 360 degree camera
Isn't the reason for the larger Toyota logo is to accomodate/hide the radar unit for the (radar) cruise control? Isn't the radar unit mounted behind the logo?
A lot of people remove the back seat anyway and fit them out for touring. Isn’t the emblem like that as it’s a sensor?
Bought a new 2021 Crusade version just one month ago, I just like the concept of the ruggedness of a Hilux morphed with luxury SUV. It feels so solid, it's a Toyota so I'm pretty sure it's here for the long haul.
Very reminiscent of my '92 Fourunner that was a great vehicle, it did lots and lots of kilometers reliably. Happy as!!!
Just ordered mine yesterday in Graphite
How are you liking it
@@Hillzy_Eighty7ours is Silver Sky colour, (would have preferred white, but was on it's way when we bought it, ordered for dealer stock, so can't complain, at least it was instantly available). Like it very much but haven't been doing much driving. We live in the city, only 1200 klm on the clock thus far, it's a nice to drive vehicle, also been good on fuel, will be getting more road trip use in 2022.
Edit, Just wondering what sort of delivery time they're quoting you, there still some "lag" in manufacturing. I was originally quoted 6months from the first dealership I approached.
@@gazzafloss we were told expect 6 months which suits us fine anyway.Took a GXL for a test drive before putting a deposit down,and i was surprised how well they get up and go
This is coming from someone whos last 4x4 was a 98 non turbo diesel lux 😅
@@Hillzy_Eighty7 you will notice the difference, the Fortuna is rapid when it kicks down to overtake, you can really feel that 500nm of torque. Our 92 Forunner was a V6 petrol, it'd pass everything but a petrol station.
I like the concept too mate, we just ordered a white GXL with leather option. 6-8 months wait at the moment but may come sooner if the Factory in Thailand gets a wiggle on. They feel so solid and drives bloody great with the updated 2.8 engine. Happy motoring!
Does this come with Single Turbo or Twin Turbo?
The ride quality feels rough but we all know, it’s based off the Hilux which is a robust working vehicle. The take off from idle is also noticeable and not the smoothest. It’s best driven with sport mode etc turned on to get a smoother ride.
I really like your reviews. Great video BTW. 👍
Jeez I wish I could get one. Here in the US we get the 4runner which I guess is the equivalent but ever since I found out about the Fortuner, I've been wanting one
No, they not the same. I think 4runner is more like Prado.
Great and honest review 👍
I had a 2015 Everest (my first choice) that turned out to be a lemon, so I changed to the 2016 Crusade. I agree with all of your disappointments (rear seats, ride quality, overall package), which it is why it was not my preferred vehicle.
But after the pain inflicted by the Everest, I went for the safety of the Toyota brand. With 95k on the clock now, I have grown to respect it and appreciate the security of reliability. It is very good offroad (except for the limited rear locker activation that you mention) and I have set it up for towing and offroad touring. Overall, very happy but tend to agree with your summation.
Ford Everest sucks man. Everyone bashes the fortuner and praises the Everest but to be honest, it’s because they never went through owning both. If they did they will know why the fortuner costs more. It lasts 3 times more.
Fortuner Legender has a much more handsome looks, unfortunately it doesn’t enter the Australian market.
Here in the middle east you can a v6 4.0 which produces about 35 more hp and quite more torque than the fortuner that is used in the video. It also has premium leather
Your review is great, I just realised I don't like the middle and back passenger space and boot space. Rather get an H1 or VW bus etc, my 5 passengers will be comfy and there will be luggage space
For me I feel like the fortuners cabin is very loud
The third row is like the old prado seats. Reminds me of my parents car growing up
Next video, I want to see you review about Ford Everest 2021. Thank you sir.
Amazing Review Paul.. I dont mind calling myself your huge fan.... Please make a video on Hyundai Palisade.. Thanks
The rear seats are designed to be removable. So if you don’t need the 7 seats all the time, you can take them out and have heaps of room.
to be fair, most 4wds even those with flat folding can have the third row seat easily removed. i've seen prados, mu-xs, and colorado 7/trailblazers set up without 3rd row seats.
can you guys do diagonal angle tests, its pretty important for awd and 4wds would love to see that
Always the best review 👍👍👍 Paul🙂🙂
Fortuner is an overpriced crap. My dad owns it and very happy with his car.
But yeah, in my opinion, the car interior is not well built, with overwhelming amount of low quality plastics and bad faux leather.
Hello mate, I heard at the 16:47 mark you mention the car can only be used in 4H on 'sealed surfaces'............ It's my understanding that you can only use 4H and 4L on UNSEALED surfaces. i.e. gravel roads, mud, sand, snow etc. Using 4H on a sealed surface i.e. bitumen would cause 4wd bind up in the transfer case and damage it. Can you confirm you meant to say 'unsealed' rather than 'sealed'. This is the key drive train difference between the Fortuner and the Prado I thought, the latter which is a full time 4wd.
Yes you can't use 4H on Tarmac, forgivable if it's wet raining otherwise nope
I've run a forty since they launched in Aus in 2015. After 150,000km including Fraser Island, Simpson Desert and annual trips up into the high country there are a couple of points that I think are worth considering.
It's not too comfy, especially compared to a Prado. Ride comfort was much better after the usual off-road mods. (bullbar, 2inch lift and rear seat row delete/storage drawers install)
You will spend more setting up the Prado for off-road work than the Forty, but the Prado is a better albeit pricier option for on road comfort.
The one to get is the GX. There is just not the difference between the trim levels to justify the cost.
DPF is still an unknown quantity.
I'd buy another one tomorrow, but I think this one will look after my needs for a while yet!
All cool and all....but dude....how tall are you!!?? The fortuner is huge. You're standing taller than it!!!! Mental height man!!!
That handbrake is up really high doesn’t need to be park is very much sufficient to hold
Great review Paul about wood grain I reckon it should stay I’m a big fan of it and it does look nice in car interiors
Finally 🎉 thank you ❤️😀👍
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Wish they introduced a Legender trim here
How is this different to the Prado? The rear seats are the same, both have diesel engines and they look to be of similar size.
It’s basically a Hilux with a station wagon body. Prado different chassis.
Prado heavier, More comfortable ride and got full time 4x4.
I was shopping between the prado and the fortuner gr sport, the prado is 500 pounds heavier, it’s not as nimble. The suspension is softer so there is a lot of body roll, the fortuner has auto lift gate, wireless charger, prado has the Land Cruiser name but when I test drove both I really loved the fortuner gr s so I went with that. Both are nice.
Recently launched in India..Next gen is coming next year!!
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Saksnav That's quite too early, its not yet due for a full refresh until 2024/2025. 😁
That wood grain did actually start out as a tree in the Cretaceous period before becoming fossilised, dug up and turned into plastic, so it is Real Wood after all. Same with the seat trim, genuine syntho cow hide.
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great review, thanks mate, very informative, keep it up