Fascinating discussion, guys! This has reinforced my love for Sorcery…their dedication to traditional art, a slower release schedule, etc. really goes against the industry grain…and at the bottom of it all…it just reminds me why we fell in love with CCGs in the first place.
This is an amazing episode and a topic in very passionate about. Really appreciate you bringing Andrew Navarro on, and his opinions and views. Hope to see more such discussions , in so far as this touches upon every facet of human life, and the tabletop industry for sure.
As a big fan of Solforge Fusion, what terrifies me most about their adoption of NFT/block chain isn't the technology itself, but the fact that just hearing about NFTs will most likely turn off the vast majority of their potential audience. Even though interacting with NFTs is optional, if it stunts the game's growth so much that the whole thing goes belly up, then what's the point?
This is my primary concern at the moment as well. We want to be able to continue to grow the game's presence here in Australia but this looks like quite a hurdle that we now have to overcome if the fear that this has created isn't somehow put to rest so we can go back to focus on what we love the most - playing our game and interacting with our community.
Andrew made a great point about AI being forced onto us because "its the future". But it won't be if we dont use it or support it. we are in complete control of it being the future. the people that want it are turning it into a self-fulfilling proficy, one that we can also actively surpress into failure. AI will have its uses but it shouldn't be the end all be all. Alpha Clash is just such a great game!! Great system. Awesome Lore. Deck building is pretty wide open to start. I LOVE getting it to my table for a few games, even solo against myself (at least until I can get the true solo working effectively) another awesome stream TC!! thank you. and stay safe!!
Amazing video, one of your best! Thanks so much for the discussion. The key for me is value. Cryptocurrencies, blockchain ledgers, NFTs and fractional investments all share similar issues in that they generate no actual value in any way. They’re speculative “wait for a bigger idiot” shams. Investing in a stock involved at some point the person who originally purchased that stock increasing the capitalisation of that company, which gave the company capital to produce some goods or services or IP or something with value. Then when the company trades and sells that widget that has value, some of that is returned to whoever holds that share as a dividend. NFTs don’t inherently do that, they have no regulation or controls to ensure the entity that becomes capitalised by the original purchase does that, so unless they actually follow through on their promises to create things of actual value to use the NFTs for (a game, an event, a Fyre Festival, etc), they are as useful as someone selling you their pet rock for $1,000,000 and saying it’s redeemable for a ticket to Mars.
One thing that tingles in the back of my mind is that we are on our way to becoming old f@rts. In regards to our perspectives and how we evaluate the world as it is and as it evolves.
Arcteryx makes great products and has an amazing warranty. They just replaced my 15 year old Gore-Tex rain shell, free of charge, when the seam tape adhesive wore off. Cry once, buy once. 👊🏽
Always love hearing your guy's take and discussions and that you're never afraid to take a strong stance. on NFTs and blockchain: The thing that excites me about this is that it has the ability to remove the middleman in situations where trust is necessary. I can imagine a future where you have an industry that's fully functional without a business acting as the intermediary. Say I need a new roof. Instead of hiring a roofing company who hires roofers, I can hire the roofers themselves and the middleman is cut out, providing more value to both parties. A pretty complex example but I hope my point is clear. Unfortunately the space is so full of bad actors and greed that it turns a lot of people off. This wonders of the first seems like one of them
AI Art also takes entire rivers of water to cool the computer farms, AND similar levels of electricity of crypto. AI art also takes an army of underpaid workers to sift through the worst of the internet to add tags. Conveniently, those same people do not lookout for copyrighted works. So all that AI art, on top of being built off stolen artwork, is also destroying the environment faster than the crypto scams were. Also, "finish it with a human touch" is deceptive, and mainly there to try and argue that their AI art can be copyrighted, since AI works cannot be.
The biggest problem is that block chain Technology is that it is actually just useless. It's meant to be disconnected to any authority but, ultimately to have any value you must have something to read the records. So if a game boasts NFTs once the game is not there the NFT is now useless, pointing at how useless the Image NFTs are is quite simple, once the link the NFT points to is down your useless link now just points to nothing. It is scams all the way down, anything that makes sense should just be in normal space on servers there IS no difference. NFTs are just more expensive storage. IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND NFTS ITS BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THERE TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
the whole infinite moments thing is hilarious. reminds me of the "ape holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single ape" tweet that went viral during the nft craze because it was utterly unintelligible to any normal person
How is PVE going to work for Warlord? I would love to play but have a hard time believing it will be a thing in my community but if i can play solo 😊 sign me up.
It is well known NFT grift where people buy their own images to raise the value through hype. They just applied this to Kickstarter, had a people on standby to buy high pledges and push it up on Kickstarter and have FOMO crowd pour in to pledge.
So NFT are basically an investement that makes everyone involved financially, which means thanks to the sunk-cost fallacy that it garantees each community is going to hold for some time. Plus you can derive a status from it. It's one of the way it makes the most sense to me, I can see why it must be important to some people.
Fascinating discussion, guys! This has reinforced my love for Sorcery…their dedication to traditional art, a slower release schedule, etc. really goes against the industry grain…and at the bottom of it all…it just reminds me why we fell in love with CCGs in the first place.
Great video folks, thanks for putting all that effort into researching all of this.
This is an amazing episode and a topic in very passionate about. Really appreciate you bringing Andrew Navarro on, and his opinions and views. Hope to see more such discussions , in so far as this touches upon every facet of human life, and the tabletop industry for sure.
As a big fan of Solforge Fusion, what terrifies me most about their adoption of NFT/block chain isn't the technology itself, but the fact that just hearing about NFTs will most likely turn off the vast majority of their potential audience. Even though interacting with NFTs is optional, if it stunts the game's growth so much that the whole thing goes belly up, then what's the point?
This is my primary concern at the moment as well. We want to be able to continue to grow the game's presence here in Australia but this looks like quite a hurdle that we now have to overcome if the fear that this has created isn't somehow put to rest so we can go back to focus on what we love the most - playing our game and interacting with our community.
Andrew made a great point about AI being forced onto us because "its the future". But it won't be if we dont use it or support it. we are in complete control of it being the future. the people that want it are turning it into a self-fulfilling proficy, one that we can also actively surpress into failure.
AI will have its uses but it shouldn't be the end all be all.
Alpha Clash is just such a great game!! Great system. Awesome Lore. Deck building is pretty wide open to start.
I LOVE getting it to my table for a few games, even solo against myself (at least until I can get the true solo working effectively)
another awesome stream TC!! thank you. and stay safe!!
Amazing video, one of your best! Thanks so much for the discussion.
The key for me is value. Cryptocurrencies, blockchain ledgers, NFTs and fractional investments all share similar issues in that they generate no actual value in any way. They’re speculative “wait for a bigger idiot” shams.
Investing in a stock involved at some point the person who originally purchased that stock increasing the capitalisation of that company, which gave the company capital to produce some goods or services or IP or something with value. Then when the company trades and sells that widget that has value, some of that is returned to whoever holds that share as a dividend.
NFTs don’t inherently do that, they have no regulation or controls to ensure the entity that becomes capitalised by the original purchase does that, so unless they actually follow through on their promises to create things of actual value to use the NFTs for (a game, an event, a Fyre Festival, etc), they are as useful as someone selling you their pet rock for $1,000,000 and saying it’s redeemable for a ticket to Mars.
One thing that tingles in the back of my mind is that we are on our way to becoming old f@rts. In regards to our perspectives and how we evaluate the world as it is and as it evolves.
Arcteryx makes great products and has an amazing warranty. They just replaced my 15 year old Gore-Tex rain shell, free of charge, when the seam tape adhesive wore off.
Cry once, buy once. 👊🏽
Always love hearing your guy's take and discussions and that you're never afraid to take a strong stance. on NFTs and blockchain:
The thing that excites me about this is that it has the ability to remove the middleman in situations where trust is necessary. I can imagine a future where you have an industry that's fully functional without a business acting as the intermediary. Say I need a new roof. Instead of hiring a roofing company who hires roofers, I can hire the roofers themselves and the middleman is cut out, providing more value to both parties. A pretty complex example but I hope my point is clear.
Unfortunately the space is so full of bad actors and greed that it turns a lot of people off. This wonders of the first seems like one of them
The future is now old man
Should have put up different art and had him guess what’s ai and what’s not, bet he’d have a different view after.
AI Art also takes entire rivers of water to cool the computer farms, AND similar levels of electricity of crypto. AI art also takes an army of underpaid workers to sift through the worst of the internet to add tags. Conveniently, those same people do not lookout for copyrighted works.
So all that AI art, on top of being built off stolen artwork, is also destroying the environment faster than the crypto scams were. Also, "finish it with a human touch" is deceptive, and mainly there to try and argue that their AI art can be copyrighted, since AI works cannot be.
The biggest problem is that block chain Technology is that it is actually just useless. It's meant to be disconnected to any authority but, ultimately to have any value you must have something to read the records. So if a game boasts NFTs once the game is not there the NFT is now useless, pointing at how useless the Image NFTs are is quite simple, once the link the NFT points to is down your useless link now just points to nothing.
It is scams all the way down, anything that makes sense should just be in normal space on servers there IS no difference. NFTs are just more expensive storage.
IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND NFTS ITS BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THERE TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
the whole infinite moments thing is hilarious. reminds me of the "ape holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single ape" tweet that went viral during the nft craze because it was utterly unintelligible to any normal person
Wish the sound was better in this video.
How is PVE going to work for Warlord? I would love to play but have a hard time believing it will be a thing in my community but if i can play solo 😊 sign me up.
It is well known NFT grift where people buy their own images to raise the value through hype. They just applied this to Kickstarter, had a people on standby to buy high pledges and push it up on Kickstarter and have FOMO crowd pour in to pledge.
Did they ever expand Ashes PvE to more than 2 players?
So NFT are basically an investement that makes everyone involved financially, which means thanks to the sunk-cost fallacy that it garantees each community is going to hold for some time. Plus you can derive a status from it. It's one of the way it makes the most sense to me, I can see why it must be important to some people.