Pure coincidence, but if we go back 35 years 3 times... 1916 - 151 Babe Ruth 1951 - Bowman Mickey Mantle / Parkhurst Gordie Howe 1986 - Fleer Michael Jordan 2021 - ?? 35 years from now some rookie cards of today will be coveted, shine won't have much of an impact either way. If history has anything to say, it'll be because of the player's accomplishments.
@@mrp1924 exactly but trust me when I tell you there still out there for cheap! Just gotta find em watch my last upload on my channel and I show and explain more 💪
Having been a dealer back in the late 1980's I can tell you that this advice is so accurate and valuable that it should not be taken lightly. Every year there is someone that is going to make the hall of fame but knowing who that will be is a challenge as pointed out in the video (which you could have added Don Mattingly to the list). May I suggest that splitting the difference and finding players that are in mid career can give you the benefit of both past history and potential future accomplishments to give the upside potential while minimizing risk. Lastly, with the infusion of grading there is a lot of challenges that now exist that did not exist when I first started collecting.
Been in the hobby 20 years and this has never changed and never made sense to me. Not sure if it's the same people who never learn or just new people buying into the hype
This was absolutely your best video ever. You could have made it 3 hours long, but it was good and concise. Unfortunately, there are lot of gamblers that will not pay attention to your good points.
Literally laughed out loud when you were listening off the parallels after like the 40th one! 😂 I recently got back into the hobby and noticed this also. I can’t imagine the majority of these modern cards holding value long term. Thanks for the great content as always!
One additional point is that the pop counts for the modern cards can still double or triple given the grading slowdown. Also remember that the short term flippers are driving the prices so people buying modern today are hoping there are greater fools especially when a player has a good game now. The retired players don’t have that greater fool upside.
Perfect Comment. PSA is doing 25K in cards a month and most are from 2018 to 2021. The pop numbers on those years are going to skyrocket. Couple that with modern collectors being able to protect and store cards way better than in the past, should mean more Gem mints in modern cards than vintage
Once again Chris hits the nail on the head. So many parallels today and most of it is just ridiculous. We are in a junk foil era. Collect the HOFERS over hopefuls. Herbert is good but he's no Favre and the odds he wins multiple championships are slim. Great content Chris! Excellent points made.
You hit the nail on the head, collect what you like. When I worked at a card store, I always told people that, except for one guy i didn't care for, i told him to invest in Paul Assenmacher, i wonder if he still has them.The short term investors always come and go, especially when they start taking losses.
Long term for me it's sets. ESPECIALLY pre 1981 for baseball, pre 1987 for football, pre 1988 for hockey and pre 1989 for basketball. There's a finite amount of them, they're fun to build and the new stuff is overproduced imho. Safer to stick with vintage.
@@chrisc4264 yes. It will always be consumed. I just saw a guy pull a Jordan beam team from stadium club. Imagine that in another 20 years. 100 a pack easy
100% spot on, whom ever are buying these current stars at their massively inflated prices and are not flipping for profit will have a rude awakening in the future. Great video…
Outstanding. There’s going to be a lot of folks pretty disappointed in the value of their cards in a few years. Even if some of those guys keep playing well. Some folks are stuck on the idea that values keep climbing if a player keeps playing well. Market is more subtle than that.
Dude that Herbert rookie variation segment was fricken hilarious the amount of prisms is just disgusting! This is the new junk wax era we just don’t realize it yet but we will in 20 years
Finally . Someone who was able to properly educate the unknowing and say all the Things I have been feeling. This new shit. Not sure . 4000 plus luka PSA 10’s. Kinda of a joke . Junk slab era. Thank man. This was a kick ass video . Been collecting since 85
Chris You are on point with the plethora of modern rookie cards of today’s stars compared with stars of the past. I believe today’s stars are really overvalued because it is based on current hype and potential but the reality is like you said many of these stars will become the next “Kevin Maas” (remember the 1990 Upper Deck hype)!
Or Todd van poppel, even pat listash! Dude was rookie of the year that year!!! And never did a damn thing after that! And football Danny waurfell? Was the #1 pick that year supposed to be the next Joe Montana! And others rb Tim biackabatuka or David Klinger smh list goes on wake up people u get about 2 hof rookies out of a decade of classes if your lucky! Wake up people
Always Informative just getting back into the Hobby its only been 6 months and your videos have not only made sense but in using your advice on all topics hobby wise you have saved me a lot of time and money. I Appreciate you taking the time in helping me so I can be able to help my son who has started to collect with me . THANK YOU
Great vid!! One important point to add to this is that there is far more sealed product for modern that will gradually be opened, making the pop report disparity between the older/rarer cards that much greater.
I agree. But the 250 plus boxes I have collected since 1981 in my PC will remain sealed. Sealed is a great investment if you have willpower. I'm definitely in the minority I know.
Great point! You can get rookie cards for 20-30 Hall of Famers raw and still have change left over from a $50. Was Craig Biggio a bust? John Smoltz? Far from it.
There is no modern star that can bounce a routine fly ball off of their head and over the fence like Jose Canseco. His cards are definitely under valued. Great video Chris. You and others are doing a great job rebuilding the hobby with your educational videos. Wish they were around in 1908s and 1990s.
You are 100% correct. It makes me laugh when I see new cards of players that have only been around for a couple years sell for crazy money. Its just not smart collecting.
Great content! Imo some of the best quality content on YT for sports cards investing. I’d been in the hobby from late 70s thru mid 90s and now trying to sharpen my knowledge again as it pertains to strategy for any “new” 2xxx cards I might get into. I appreciate your insightful videos-thank you!!
So what you are saying is: short term you play the hype and seasons, long term you buy the accomplishments. Love your vids, keep them simple and informative!
2:27 - 3:18 really sums up the cards available today in a hilarious way. A few parallels can be fun (the Allen & Ginter minis come to mind). But 40+ different kinds of sparkle on the same card? No thank you. It was very funny to hear you list them all off, though.
Great,well needed video,with your wealth of knowledge and experience, putting these hot prospects in understandable perspective hopefully will help new collectors, investor, dealers to understand the huge risk they may be taking, or how long it may take for an athlete to reach HOF status.... Well done Chris.
Been collecting for a while. I used to let my BB cards 'age' 15 years before the 'final sort'. With the perspective that years bring, I've comfortably shortened that to 10 years recently. Outside of serial numbered and autographed cards, the mania with modern and ultra modern cards baffles me.
Great video Chris. But one counter I'd make is that you can't just look at career accomplishments when evaluating card prices. I'd say an even more important metric is the excitement or 'sexiness' of the player. Just as an example, I don't think anyone would argue that Allen Iverson had anything close to the career of Tim Duncan... and yet AI's rookie cards are all higher valued, and that's because he was an exciting player and has a bigger fan base.
@@thecardsaysmoops3 agreed... there are a lot of factors that go into a player's card values that are just as, if not more, important than their stats. I mean, just look at the dirk vs Luka example in the video. Same market, but I have a feeling Luka will continue to be higher valued because he plays a more exciting brand of basketball.
I think this video makes good points, but professional performance does not equal impact on demand (which is ultimately what drives price). The people buying these new cards dont care about "all time greats" they are prisoners of their time and perception. And i think this newer era of player will ultimately see these prices stick due to the "he was awesome when i started collecting" factor.
Awesome video. IMO there’s another factor in play which is a player’s popularity with fans. There are lots of examples of hall of fame caliber players whose cards aren’t worth much compared to fan favorites who may even have inferior stats.
I think what a lot of people miss is that in order for your sports card to go up in value, it has to have some catalyst. A player has to go beyond expectations for prices to increase. This explains why 1) Older players like Favre and Dirk generally only see very slow increase in valuation (they are retired and already in their hall of fame). There is nothing left to prove. 2) Guys like Luka will only increase in value at this point if he wins an NBA championship or an olympic gold medal.
Very sound advice - as someone who collected in the 90's, the following names are a stark reminder to card values: Mike Piazza, Manny Ramirez, Juan Gonzalez, Chipper Jones, Carlos Delgado, etc. - all very good players and some in the Hall (Piazza, Jones), they were all part of the card hype back then (your modern day Vladdys, Sotos, Tatis...). But card values are probably even less than what they were back then (granted, no one really looked into print runs at the time...). Be careful what you hold long term!
If anyone thinks that the Herbert should be valued in line with the Farve, it would be like a early year Hank Aaron card being worth the same as an Eric Davis rookie card.
Can’t compare 1992 to 2020 cards It’s not just about the players it’s how rare the cards are or how expensive a pack is A 36 pack box of 1992 stadium is around $90 How much is a 2019 hobby box of prizm?
That is not even a remotely close comparison. First of all, Justin Herbert broke almost every single significant rookie QB record there is last year, and with the rules changes the NFL has made in favor of QBs and WRs + the fact that he did all that with the 29th best line in the league and all they did was draft him a stalwart LT and went out and got two Pro-Bowl caliber linemen, he's only going to get better/more efficient as he ages. Eric Davis wasn't even close to breaking any records his rookie year in baseball. He had 10 HRs and 30 RBIs when he was 22, the same age that Herbert had arguably the most successful rookie campaign, statistically speaking, for a QB all time.
So you are telling me that my 500 Kevin Mitchell rookies are worth next to nothing?!?!? This is a must watch video for at least 90% of the people in the hobby today.
They are actually worth less than nothing lol, try finding a buyer for 500 of them. Better yet, see how much you have to pay to have someone take them off your hands. Crazy that we invested that way back then.
As someone who’s collecting over 30 years I agree 100% you are the voice of reason. Fun to read discord of people chasing Eason, Trask, etc I’ve been there done that but I’ve learned. Basically a new era of excited collectors is awesome but they will learn as well!!
I understand the premise of these observations. You have to consider the modern collector. They gravitate to the flashy mojo/ cracked ice/ auto cards. Paying up for the subdued 1999 topps finest doesn’t do anything for them. So I think the old cards will continue to be less desired regardless of pop count.
Those types will move on to the next big hype and the prices on these current ones will drop like an anchor. Even ones that hit that start status will cool and see prices drop
I've taken on the challenge of collecting Pat Freiermuth (PSU player) now plays for my team the Steelers ... 2021 Panini Prizm Draft Picks card ... which I think has 34 parallels ... yes, 34 for which I've collected 19 so far ... once complete (if ever) I will share with you and the numbers ... creating a blog site to highlight the challenge phew
@@collectorinvestordealer will definitely share and Ive now got 21 total of the 34 ... but the MOJO in this series I feel is gonna be a biitch to get and it I do get a look at it ... expensive ... we will see. Hey, keep up the good work brother > Im approaching 10K YT subs myself and know the deal ... keep up the steady uploads ... I do 1 video a week, prob need to do at least 2 but I make more money doing what I do then YT will ever pay me ... so its fun and its a platform to sell my memberships ... which I never reveal the numbers ... I'm telling you brother, come up with a paid service and THAT .................... well, only in private conversation would I reveal that :) be good brother and when I do my Boot Camp in Amsterdam (I have 7 members from there) I will invite you as a special guess even though you dont do stocks ... guess just to bullshiit with you after about cards LOL!
Hah! Sounds awesome! Im in for Amsterdam bootcamp. Yeah youtube is a lot of work for not a lot of pay, but hopefully growing something that will pay off one day
Bro I have watched video after video of nonsense. Until today. Very thought out and well timed, and key topics easy to retain. Simple put yet very detailed. I will continue to follow you, that is a no brainer! great job.
Excellent advice! I completely agree. I think there are a lot of people spending ridiculous sums on some of these newer cards today, and there’s probably gonna at least 25%/30% of “hot” new prospects & “rookie stars” careers that just never panned out, and they’ll then be taking a huge hit 5/10 years down the line when they try to unload them. IMO it’s definitely better, especially when buying super pricey stuff & when long term holding / collecting / investing, to go for the proven names and talents over the brand new guy who’s not rn. And tbh 25%/30% is probably realistically a very low estimate of players who are the hot thing right now, but a few years down the line will just be viewed as average at best
Listening to this entire video it is very apparent that we are in a Junk Wax era part 2 bubble for sure. Hype is all over the newer cards and the makers of the cards are cashing in on our stupid-ness. To make matters worse the teenagers who collected during the late 80's and early 90's are all in again in their mid 40's with a lot more buying power. I will use my David Justice and Jerome Walton rookie cards to light my next cigar..... Great video as always. You rock man.
True but I am sitting on a stack of Mahomes that I got cheaply that have a lot of potential. Nothing is a safe bet but I just happen to be a Chiefs fan so I sort of lucked into them.
This really opened up my eyes to how over priced rookie cards are right now. I’ve held off buying a rookie Zion or Luka silver prizm psa 10 because it just seems so overpriced for someone that is unproven. After seeing this I’m so glad I did. It’s hard to know what the true value for any rookie players are but the market is definitely over saturated with modern slabs. Im sure even the vintage pops will start climbing just because everyone and their cousin was sending cards to psa before they closed.
Nomar Garciaparra had 5 or 6 really incredible years hitting as a shortstop for Boston and then just fell off the table with his wrist injury. Jason Heyward on the Cubs was supposed to be the next Albert Pujols when he started with Atlanta. Great fielder but he just can't hit worth beans. 6'5" & 240 lbs and he bats about 240 Average & hits about 15 Homers a year. Not exactly Pujols. Your examples are on point. I think Favre is really underrated for the career he had.
Great vid. Read quite a few comments. Surprisingly, not enough love for the main point, imho, of this vid. There are 3, I think you said, legitimate Favre rookie cards. There are 100 Herbert rookie cards. Maybe more than 100. Understatement of the year warning. That's a bigger than huge problem for Herbert rookie card buyers.
So true….I remember thinking Jose Canseco was going to be the all-time best baseball player ever….I had 2 of his Donruss Rated Rookies that were worth $150….wish I would have sold those in 1989-90
I recently went back through some 2019-20 NBA rookie cards I had and compared to Ebay what they were now selling for. Most are only selling for a buck now. They are like Prizm and Dunruss so not high end, funny how that happens, but that's always been the way it is. All you have to do is go back to the mid 2000s. Look at a player like Gerald Green . His cards were way up there back then, but now they are super cheap.
Between the projected WAR predicting HOF video and this one, you are really taking some gas out of my Pete Alonso hype train. Don’t really need a “Hall of Really Good”, I am looking for a Barry Bonds with no PID, lol. Now while I go into this with open eyes, a small veil of unexplained optimism is necessary. Great video none the less, you can only put so much in a balloon before completely predictable outcomes. CHEERS!!
Exactly why my collection only consists of 60s, 70s, 80s and very early 90s! Although being from KC I wish I had Mahomes cards but way too expensive now.
Another awesome video! As a collector for more than 30 year, I total agree with you. This said, there is one element that would favour a Luka or a Tatis over Beltre or Dirk....there are many more younger collectors now as compared to when Beltre or Dirk were starting out, so there is more potential for more people to want a Luka or Tatis in their collection when they get older as compared to Beltre/Dirk. This said, any potential would be quickly drowned out with all the parallels and copies out there of the nee guys.
Damn how many variations do they make on the same exact card. That’s so crazy. I can’t imagine these lasting in value long term with how much they are putting out.
How much does recency bias play into this? Are there more young collectors than old? (Potentially driving up the price for current players?) Can you do a video or provide a link to a video talking about short term collecting?
Another great video! I rarely buy new player cards (though I do buy new sets) unless it’s someone I really like (Baker Mayfield, Shohei Ohtani, Sebastian Aho to name a few) .. I’m 85% collector; 15% investor .. I don’t plan to sell my cards - I like them too much .. they’ll be for my kids to sell when I die which I do keep in mind (that’s the 15% part).
I agree 110% every year more "parallels" I like when there is no more then 10 just like 999 500 100 75 50 25 10 5 1 is the best, My mahomes Pink refractor I love but I sold off the one I REALLY liked was his rated rookie refractor, but hey I still have a Mahomes rookie /99...
Some great points. It is so easy to go after the new shiny Tatis over something old and less attractive, such as the Beltre or Favre rookies. I just wonder how much upside some of those older ones really have? I think some of them have already topped out. I just don't see people paying more, even in 5-10 years, for some of them. I mean, maybe a little more, but not enough to tie your money up putting a bunch away. I don't know, I guess you just really have to get the right ones. Great vid!
The one thing I think that is left out of this equation is the number of people in the hobby and the amount of “fresh blood” in the hobby as far as investors and young people with money. Supply is much much higher now but also the demand is much much much higher. I do think that there is an element of “fomo” when it comes to the fact that people can’t afford the greats after they become the greats. And lastly I think with PSA and BGS being they way they are currently. People are holding and waiting to grade cards. Creating a artificial “shortage”. Prices for current NFL rookies in raw condition are much much much higher than past years.
Great video I'm not in the sports cars market but I been thinking about it and looking at things closely and to me it is quite amazing the amount to parallels to the base rookies in ultra modern product it just seems REALLY insane quantities plus the added gamble of hoping the player becomes an all time great. With that being said I do like the Long game on collectible much more than the short so will personally be looking at vintage great rookies who are already proven for value thanks you love your channel
OUCH! This video is so well done, well presented, concise, and logical that it makes me ill. 😂 And I say that as a long term investor who has plenty of vintage and even more than plenty of ultra modern. This perfectly captures the data for the current environment which is ever evolving and definitely hard to correlate and make sense of at times (in terms of card values). Seriously well done. A masterclass in what it says - straightforward long term investment advice in this wacky point in time in the hobby/industry.
Parallels give the illusion of scarcity. Even if the pop count of each color parallel is relatively low, overall the rookie pop count remains absurdly high, it seems.
Hi Chris - Great way of pointing out how crazy it is that these young studs are being over-priced on their rookie cards. Another really good Video. have a good day. Barry
so glad you talked about this because the prices on some modern rookies are crazy. i would rather spend a grand on LeBron cards than any new rookie that could turn out to be "great but not an all time great"
I don’t think you can call guys like Luka, Tatis, Acuna, Soto, etc, “lottery tickets.” Those guys are all in their early 20s and have already proven to be amongst the best in their sport. Which is why people pay a lot for them - because they ARE young and with each MVP, AS vote, ring, their cards will go up even more, and they have another 10-15 years of that to come. I agree some of the prices are nuts, but there is still a lot of meat on the bone for their cards considering how young they are and how much more their cards will still go up IF they stay healthy… which is a big if for sure.
I started collecting in 1989 and still have many of those cards back when Gregg Jefferies and Ken Griffey Jr cards were close in value. Times do change. Anyone remember the pandemonium of the early 1990's when Beckett prices were going all over the place and people were speculating on multiple unproven players you get kind of a feel when people get way ahead of themselves. I think the same thing happened earlier this year.
Great info. It's all about the price you get into them for. I will never understand someone being willing to spend $1,000's of dollars on a rc card of a young player.
Another solid video. Keep 'em coming. I love the very candid, no-frills approach. I think its also interesting to consider the demographics of sports fans when looking at card value. As an example - there was a gallup poll out (a few years ago, however) that showed the largest % demographic for NFL fans was the 18 - 29 yr old. That age group will likely gravitate towards their current favorites inflating the value of more modern stars. Same could be said for NBA. I'm curious to hear more from you on the current value of vintage as a long term investment especially some of the iconic topps sets. I dabble in both vintage and modern but tend to collect or hold the vintage more.
Great, great video. Your channel is so awesome. I stopped trying to understand why modern is worth so much more than vintage. It has more to do with the latest and greatest, which is our society today. Such as previous year iphone is worthless.
When I started collecting it was Sean Kemp that was the new dog. Just bought a box of his rookie year for 35$ Canadian. About 23$us... Great advice Chris. Appreciate ya man!
I understand your point and it is well taken. I personally believe that you missed very valid perspective. To be an investor is to also have an exit strategy in mind. Otherwise, you are a collector and these conversations don't matter. To have an exit strategy, you must heavily consider the buyer. Your target buyer profile matters. Collectors/investors now are getting younger with expendable income. They are excited about current/recent players. Yes, Favres record will be better than Herbert, but is your potential buyer more excited about Favre (whom they never saw play) or Herbert? The card is only worth what someone will pay for it. Yes, invest in proven results but similarly (and arguably more importantly) keep the potential buyer in mind as well.
@All Time Sports Cards agreed. I am not saying that those players won't command top dollar. My statement was not exclusionary. My point was that there are different types of buyers. In my opinion, there are more hobbyists that will flip within 10 years than there are those that hold for decades. My point is to know your audience. The guy buying the Herbert is not the same guy buying the Mantle. Both exist. There are more Herbert buyers than Mantle buyers. Know your buyer. Im not saying he's wrong. Im saying that the choice isn't binary......
@All Time Sports Cards absolutely. Your strategy should depend on your goal. If you are going to hold for 10+ years, then the proven players make more sense as they have a higher floor but lower ceiling. If you are flipping sooner or like to gamble more, get some nice rookies with lower floor but maybe higher short term ceiling... Both are valid and viable...
A year later, Dirk Finest PSA 10 $80 Luka Optic PSA 10 $215. I do believe Luka's career will outshine Dirk. New Dirk POP 747. New Luka POP 5,171. You lost 50% on Luka and 78% on Dirk. Favre also had his scandal which no one could predict, destroying his values.
This video made me go to ebay and add Tim Duncan 1997 rookies on my watch list. Low pop count era of cards and some cool looking ones too. Ya the refractor versions can be pricey but still some nice ones for less than a few hundred.
1st of all if anybody counted all the Herbert prizms u are a G 2nd seems to me the established HOFs are a better bang for ur buck Chris u made a lot of sense in that the young players might fizzle out to be above avg or avg players It gave me a idea that sum of my favorite players from the major 4 sports that aren't HOFs that sum of their cards might be got for nice low prices thanks for the info
i'm honestly more curious as to what this makes you think about the Hofer's prices. it might actually be the hardest pill to swallow here as it pretty much says holding long term is meaningless as well and i really don't see an inverse happening.
Good analysis, but I think basketball is different. Barring injury, a great (not just good) young basketball player tends to remain great throughout their career. The trouble people run into with investing in basketball players is that they think the player will improve linearly every year. For example, people claim Brandon Ingram will be the next KD. If that were the case, he'd already be one of the best in the game instead of a borderline all star.
Wonder where the bulk of the demographic is for people spending big money on cards. That might have something to do with why the older players are bringing less money.
I was going to make the same point, when i first started collecting my stepdad had a Micky Mantel, somewhere between a psa 3 and 5, i forget. anyway his eyes lit up when showing me, but i had no connection to him never seen him play, so to me it was like yeah wow great card. A Farve he was good a while ago, newfans and collectors have no connection to him, so when the money gets spent it's logical that new young money flows to the stars of today, I think that is proven by the baseball players you showed, they were our overpriced rooks of then, i remember having them and being like surefire HOF
You hit the nail on the head in this video. You have some of the best videos on UA-cam. I wish I could invest in you as a UA-camr. Would definitely buy your rookie, lol & hold it long term as your quality of videos has been incredible and im sure your popularity will as well.
Finally the best video for the hobby to see and why i dont care for the "shiny" stuff. Vintage will always be the best investment
Pure coincidence, but if we go back 35 years 3 times...
1916 - 151 Babe Ruth
1951 - Bowman Mickey Mantle / Parkhurst Gordie Howe
1986 - Fleer Michael Jordan
2021 - ??
35 years from now some rookie cards of today will be coveted, shine won't have much of an impact either way.
If history has anything to say, it'll be because of the player's accomplishments.
Yup #facts
Sure the vintage hall of famers are also most expensive, the lucky guys are the ones who’s had them for years.
@@mrp1924 exactly but trust me when I tell you there still out there for cheap! Just gotta find em watch my last upload on my channel and I show and explain more 💪
@@sokoteur360 tom brady
The Herbert rainbow segment, hilarious. Thanks Chris!
I agree and to Collect all those Herbert's you'll probably have to remortgage your house,lol.Especially in PSA 10'S
Absolutely ridiculous. That’s so silly.
its beyond ridic with the parallels
@@vendora1 i know that why I made that comment it a bit much so Topps can make more money on the product.
@@baseballbrownie2317 you mean panini lol but all makers of cards are getting out of hand with it makes getting one feel way less special
Having been a dealer back in the late 1980's I can tell you that this advice is so accurate and valuable that it should not be taken lightly. Every year there is someone that is going to make the hall of fame but knowing who that will be is a challenge as pointed out in the video (which you could have added Don Mattingly to the list). May I suggest that splitting the difference and finding players that are in mid career can give you the benefit of both past history and potential future accomplishments to give the upside potential while minimizing risk. Lastly, with the infusion of grading there is a lot of challenges that now exist that did not exist when I first started collecting.
Players mid career lack hype. Hype is everything in the ultra modern sector.
I know people who don’t buy guys with less than 5 years in their sport
pretty spot on.
Been in the hobby 20 years and this has never changed and never made sense to me. Not sure if it's the same people who never learn or just new people buying into the hype
You sir are correct in this reply . 💯
This was absolutely your best video ever. You could have made it 3 hours long, but it was good and concise. Unfortunately, there are lot of gamblers that will not pay attention to your good points.
And they are typically the 'day traders' of the hobby so it won't impact them.
Yea. He fuckkng gets a PSA 10 on this video. A 1/1
Literally laughed out loud when you were listening off the parallels after like the 40th one! 😂 I recently got back into the hobby and noticed this also. I can’t imagine the majority of these modern cards holding value long term. Thanks for the great content as always!
Anyone remember the Junk Wax days of massive over production? Feeling the Deja Vu...
You lost me after the 3rd or so Herbert parallel - could you start over again from the top 😁
@@adamlee1562 YES....and that's just one, of a few reasons, why there are only a handful of modern cards in my collection.
Man I love this guy. He is the absolute truth. All the other you tubers are so heavy on new qbs, unproven qbs. This dude is smart!
100% agree, it's really cool to listen to this guy and come back down to earth after being hyped up on all the other channels.
@@SuperBrewdog exactly!
As someone who has been a collector for years but trying to figure out just 1 or 2 cards to invest in long term, this video helped a lot. Thank you
One additional point is that the pop counts for the modern cards can still double or triple given the grading slowdown. Also remember that the short term flippers are driving the prices so people buying modern today are hoping there are greater fools especially when a player has a good game now. The retired players don’t have that greater fool upside.
Perfect Comment. PSA is doing 25K in cards a month and most are from 2018 to 2021. The pop numbers on those years are going to skyrocket. Couple that with modern collectors being able to protect and store cards way better than in the past, should mean more Gem mints in modern cards than vintage
There's always a greater fool theory with any card.
Excellent points.
Once again Chris hits the nail on the head. So many parallels today and most of it is just ridiculous. We are in a junk foil era. Collect the HOFERS over hopefuls. Herbert is good but he's no Favre and the odds he wins multiple championships are slim. Great content Chris! Excellent points made.
You hit the nail on the head, collect what you like. When I worked at a card store, I always told people that, except for one guy i didn't care for, i told him to invest in Paul Assenmacher, i wonder if he still has them.The short term investors always come and go, especially when they start taking losses.
Long term for me it's sets. ESPECIALLY pre 1981 for baseball, pre 1987 for football, pre 1988 for hockey and pre 1989 for basketball. There's a finite amount of them, they're fun to build and the new stuff is overproduced imho. Safer to stick with vintage.
And unopened wax. 90-91 fleer basketball for example. That shit is way undervalued
@@DanMolden99 Same with 88 Toops Football with Bo Jackson imo. I have hundreds of sets and unopened boxes put away. Solid steady investment.
@@chrisc4264 yes. It will always be consumed. I just saw a guy pull a Jordan beam team from stadium club. Imagine that in another 20 years. 100 a pack easy
100% spot on, whom ever are buying these current stars at their massively inflated prices and are not flipping for profit will have a rude awakening in the future. Great video…
Outstanding. There’s going to be a lot of folks pretty disappointed in the value of their cards in a few years. Even if some of those guys keep playing well. Some folks are stuck on the idea that values keep climbing if a player keeps playing well. Market is more subtle than that.
Dude that Herbert rookie variation segment was fricken hilarious the amount of prisms is just disgusting! This is the new junk wax era we just don’t realize it yet but we will in 20 years
That Herbert card should be considered a common, not a $600 card.
Finally . Someone who was able to properly educate the unknowing and say all the Things I have been feeling. This new shit. Not sure . 4000 plus luka PSA 10’s. Kinda of a joke . Junk slab era. Thank man. This was a kick ass video . Been collecting since 85
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You are on point with the plethora of modern rookie cards of today’s stars compared with stars of the past. I believe today’s stars are really overvalued because it is based on current hype and potential but the reality is like you said many of these stars will become the next “Kevin Maas” (remember the 1990 Upper Deck hype)!
The Kevin Maas hype was real!
Or Todd van poppel, even pat listash! Dude was rookie of the year that year!!! And never did a damn thing after that! And football Danny waurfell? Was the #1 pick that year supposed to be the next Joe Montana! And others rb Tim biackabatuka or David Klinger smh list goes on wake up people u get about 2 hof rookies out of a decade of classes if your lucky! Wake up people
Almost forgot about Maas lol, but yep I was in the hobby during those crazes
@@richardbianco9674 me too smh me too lol
I love the knowledge you have and are willing to share. Thank you
Always Informative just getting back into the Hobby its only been 6 months and your videos have not only made sense but in using your advice on all topics hobby wise you have saved me a lot of time and money. I Appreciate you taking the time in helping me so I can be able to help my son who has started to collect with me . THANK YOU
Really appreciate the comment, thank you. And very cool to hear that your son is involved as well!
Great vid!!
One important point to add to this is that there is far more sealed product for modern that will gradually be opened, making the pop report disparity between the older/rarer cards that much greater.
I agree. But the 250 plus boxes I have collected since 1981 in my PC will remain sealed. Sealed is a great investment if you have willpower. I'm definitely in the minority I know.
I remember in the mid-late 90s Penny Hardaway cards were 2nd most sought after cards after Jordan.
I have a raw hardaway rookie from back then. Nate
I think the point that a player does not have to be a complete bust for his rookies to go down in value is excellent.
Great point! You can get rookie cards for 20-30 Hall of Famers raw and still have change left over from a $50. Was Craig Biggio a bust? John Smoltz? Far from it.
Good example maybe Derek Jeter? Not many like him but he is sitting around 30$ while most rookies are triple his value b4 even stepping on the field
I wish you did an example from soccer. The point you’re making in this video is made most firmly in the vintage soccer cards!
There is no modern star that can bounce a routine fly ball off of their head and over the fence like Jose Canseco. His cards are definitely under valued. Great video Chris. You and others are doing a great job rebuilding the hobby with your educational videos. Wish they were around in 1908s and 1990s.
think Canseco and Bonds will remain comparatively undervalued for reasons to which we are quite familiar lol
You are 100% correct. It makes me laugh when I see new cards of players that have only been around for a couple years sell for crazy money. Its just not smart collecting.
Great content! Imo some of the best quality content on YT for sports cards investing. I’d been in the hobby from late 70s thru mid 90s and now trying to sharpen my knowledge again as it pertains to strategy for any “new” 2xxx cards I might get into. I appreciate your insightful videos-thank you!!
2:29 lol I pictured that as a Peter family guy cutaway/flashback
"Like that one time I went out and bought all those Justin Herbert prizm rookies"
lol
So what you are saying is: short term you play the hype and seasons, long term you buy the accomplishments. Love your vids, keep them simple and informative!
2:27 - 3:18 really sums up the cards available today in a hilarious way. A few parallels can be fun (the Allen & Ginter minis come to mind). But 40+ different kinds of sparkle on the same card? No thank you. It was very funny to hear you list them all off, though.
the listing of the Herbert parallels was hilarious!
Great,well needed video,with your wealth of knowledge and experience, putting these hot prospects in understandable perspective hopefully will help new collectors, investor, dealers to understand the huge risk they may be taking, or how long it may take for an athlete to reach HOF status.... Well done Chris.
I've been saying this for 2 years now... lol This rookie craze is going to cost people a LOT of money at some point.. 👍
Or make some people a lot of money 'right now'. 🤣
Been collecting for a while. I used to let my BB cards 'age' 15 years before the 'final sort'. With the perspective that years bring, I've comfortably shortened that to 10 years recently. Outside of serial numbered and autographed cards, the mania with modern and ultra modern cards baffles me.
Great video Chris.
But one counter I'd make is that you can't just look at career accomplishments when evaluating card prices. I'd say an even more important metric is the excitement or 'sexiness' of the player.
Just as an example, I don't think anyone would argue that Allen Iverson had anything close to the career of Tim Duncan... and yet AI's rookie cards are all higher valued, and that's because he was an exciting player and has a bigger fan base.
Also because Philadelphia is a hobby hotbed and San Antonio is...not.
@@thecardsaysmoops3 agreed... there are a lot of factors that go into a player's card values that are just as, if not more, important than their stats.
I mean, just look at the dirk vs Luka example in the video. Same market, but I have a feeling Luka will continue to be higher valued because he plays a more exciting brand of basketball.
Its a great point. Can not overlook the excitement factor
I think this video makes good points, but professional performance does not equal impact on demand (which is ultimately what drives price). The people buying these new cards dont care about "all time greats" they are prisoners of their time and perception. And i think this newer era of player will ultimately see these prices stick due to the "he was awesome when i started collecting" factor.
Agree, we need to view all these rookie cards of each player as a market cap like stocks, to give people a better idea.
Awesome video. IMO there’s another factor in play which is a player’s popularity with fans. There are lots of examples of hall of fame caliber players whose cards aren’t worth much compared to fan favorites who may even have inferior stats.
I think what a lot of people miss is that in order for your sports card to go up in value, it has to have some catalyst. A player has to go beyond expectations for prices to increase.
This explains why
1) Older players like Favre and Dirk generally only see very slow increase in valuation (they are retired and already in their hall of fame). There is nothing left to prove.
2) Guys like Luka will only increase in value at this point if he wins an NBA championship or an olympic gold medal.
Very sound advice - as someone who collected in the 90's, the following names are a stark reminder to card values: Mike Piazza, Manny Ramirez, Juan Gonzalez, Chipper Jones, Carlos Delgado, etc. - all very good players and some in the Hall (Piazza, Jones), they were all part of the card hype back then (your modern day Vladdys, Sotos, Tatis...). But card values are probably even less than what they were back then (granted, no one really looked into print runs at the time...). Be careful what you hold long term!
If anyone thinks that the Herbert should be valued in line with the Farve, it would be like a early year Hank Aaron card being worth the same as an Eric Davis rookie card.
Very well said.
I've got a couple of Eric Davis Tiffany rookies. They definitely have a cool factor, but they're not the same as a Hank Aaron, that's for sure.
Can’t compare 1992 to 2020 cards
It’s not just about the players it’s how rare the cards are or how expensive a pack is
A 36 pack box of 1992 stadium is around $90
How much is a 2019 hobby box of prizm?
@@goingwild18 In 30 years, no one will care about how expensive it was to buy new, only the desirability + supply.
That is not even a remotely close comparison.
First of all, Justin Herbert broke almost every single significant rookie QB record there is last year, and with the rules changes the NFL has made in favor of QBs and WRs + the fact that he did all that with the 29th best line in the league and all they did was draft him a stalwart LT and went out and got two Pro-Bowl caliber linemen, he's only going to get better/more efficient as he ages.
Eric Davis wasn't even close to breaking any records his rookie year in baseball. He had 10 HRs and 30 RBIs when he was 22, the same age that Herbert had arguably the most successful rookie campaign, statistically speaking, for a QB all time.
So you are telling me that my 500 Kevin Mitchell rookies are worth next to nothing?!?!? This is a must watch video for at least 90% of the people in the hobby today.
They are actually worth less than nothing lol, try finding a buyer for 500 of them. Better yet, see how much you have to pay to have someone take them off your hands. Crazy that we invested that way back then.
As someone who’s collecting over 30 years I agree 100% you are the voice of reason. Fun to read discord of people chasing Eason, Trask, etc I’ve been there done that but I’ve learned. Basically a new era of excited collectors is awesome but they will learn as well!!
I understand the premise of these observations. You have to consider the modern collector. They gravitate to the flashy mojo/ cracked ice/ auto cards. Paying up for the subdued 1999 topps finest doesn’t do anything for them. So I think the old cards will continue to be less desired regardless of pop count.
and many collectors felt this very same way about late 90s product in the late 90s. herein lies the problem.
Those types will move on to the next big hype and the prices on these current ones will drop like an anchor. Even ones that hit that start status will cool and see prices drop
@@funnyhandle the problem is the late 90s product was bad. Very bad. All of it. That’s why the hobby died until things got flashier and rarer.
Could you imagine if PSA and Beckett graded most of their submissions, wouldn’t that flood the market an example would be the black swamp find.
I agree with the premise of this video. My only is the older cards you highlighted might not rise much, if at all, in price over time.
Wow! This is one of the best videos on long term investing!
I've taken on the challenge of collecting Pat Freiermuth (PSU player) now plays for my team the Steelers ... 2021 Panini Prizm Draft Picks card ... which I think has 34 parallels ... yes, 34 for which I've collected 19 so far ... once complete (if ever) I will share with you and the numbers ... creating a blog site to highlight the challenge phew
Oh very cool project! yes please share at some point.
@@collectorinvestordealer will definitely share and Ive now got 21 total of the 34 ... but the MOJO in this series I feel is gonna be a biitch to get and it I do get a look at it ... expensive ... we will see. Hey, keep up the good work brother > Im approaching 10K YT subs myself and know the deal ... keep up the steady uploads ... I do 1 video a week, prob need to do at least 2 but I make more money doing what I do then YT will ever pay me ... so its fun and its a platform to sell my memberships ... which I never reveal the numbers ... I'm telling you brother, come up with a paid service and THAT .................... well, only in private conversation would I reveal that :) be good brother and when I do my Boot Camp in Amsterdam (I have 7 members from there) I will invite you as a special guess even though you dont do stocks ... guess just to bullshiit with you after about cards LOL!
Hah! Sounds awesome! Im in for Amsterdam bootcamp. Yeah youtube is a lot of work for not a lot of pay, but hopefully growing something that will pay off one day
Bro I have watched video after video of nonsense. Until today. Very thought out and well timed, and key topics easy to retain. Simple put yet very detailed. I will continue to follow you, that is a no brainer! great job.
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I agree with u on Herbert but doncic is gonna be the next goat. He is a great long term investment
And that pop count is with PSA being shut down, remember that. There's gonna be many more when PSA opens.
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Excellent advice! I completely agree. I think there are a lot of people spending ridiculous sums on some of these newer cards today, and there’s probably gonna at least 25%/30% of “hot” new prospects & “rookie stars” careers that just never panned out, and they’ll then be taking a huge hit 5/10 years down the line when they try to unload them.
IMO it’s definitely better, especially when buying super pricey stuff & when long term holding / collecting / investing, to go for the proven names and talents over the brand new guy who’s not rn. And tbh 25%/30% is probably realistically a very low estimate of players who are the hot thing right now, but a few years down the line will just be viewed as average at best
Listening to this entire video it is very apparent that we are in a Junk Wax era part 2 bubble for sure. Hype is all over the newer cards and the makers of the cards are cashing in on our stupid-ness. To make matters worse the teenagers who collected during the late 80's and early 90's are all in again in their mid 40's with a lot more buying power. I will use my David Justice and Jerome Walton rookie cards to light my next cigar..... Great video as always. You rock man.
True but I am sitting on a stack of Mahomes that I got cheaply that have a lot of potential. Nothing is a safe bet but I just happen to be a Chiefs fan so I sort of lucked into them.
@@AKA2PM Mahomes is different dude shows he’s a hall of fame level talent right now
This really opened up my eyes to how over priced rookie cards are right now. I’ve held off buying a rookie Zion or Luka silver prizm psa 10 because it just seems so overpriced for someone that is unproven. After seeing this I’m so glad I did. It’s hard to know what the true value for any rookie players are but the market is definitely over saturated with modern slabs. Im sure even the vintage pops will start climbing just because everyone and their cousin was sending cards to psa before they closed.
Nomar Garciaparra had 5 or 6 really incredible years hitting as a shortstop for Boston and then just fell off the table with his wrist injury. Jason Heyward on the Cubs was supposed to be the next Albert Pujols when he started with Atlanta. Great fielder but he just can't hit worth beans. 6'5" & 240 lbs and he bats about 240 Average & hits about 15 Homers a year. Not exactly Pujols. Your examples are on point. I think Favre is really underrated for the career he had.
Thanks for this video! Exactly why I try to diversify my collection and use my hot young guns to obtain the harder to get and more expensive greats.
Great vid. Read quite a few comments. Surprisingly, not enough love for the main point, imho, of this vid. There are 3, I think you said, legitimate Favre rookie cards. There are 100 Herbert rookie cards. Maybe more than 100. Understatement of the year warning. That's a bigger than huge problem for Herbert rookie card buyers.
So true….I remember thinking Jose Canseco was going to be the all-time best baseball player ever….I had 2 of his Donruss Rated Rookies that were worth $150….wish I would have sold those in 1989-90
Hey man. You have no idea how happy I am thay you popped up on my feed. Keep it up!
You really need to add "Story Teller" and/or "Card Coach" to your intro. These videos are always great
I recently went back through some 2019-20 NBA rookie cards I had and compared to Ebay what they were now selling for. Most are only selling for a buck now. They are like Prizm and Dunruss so not high end, funny how that happens, but that's always been the way it is. All you have to do is go back to the mid 2000s. Look at a player like Gerald Green . His cards were way up there back then, but now they are super cheap.
Between the projected WAR predicting HOF video and this one, you are really taking some gas out of my Pete Alonso hype train. Don’t really need a “Hall of Really Good”, I am looking for a Barry Bonds with no PID, lol. Now while I go into this with open eyes, a small veil of unexplained optimism is necessary. Great video none the less, you can only put so much in a balloon before completely predictable outcomes. CHEERS!!
No, dont say that :) Collect what you love and Alonso is an exciting player!
Exactly why my collection only consists of 60s, 70s, 80s and very early 90s! Although being from KC I wish I had Mahomes cards but way too expensive now.
You get get some of his base rookies for affordable prices.
@11:20 Chris GREAT examples of "best" ,...for about a season, now just an afterthought
Your instinct is second to none... gonna take a second look at my "long terms"... thnx
Another awesome video! As a collector for more than 30 year, I total agree with you. This said, there is one element that would favour a Luka or a Tatis over Beltre or Dirk....there are many more younger collectors now as compared to when Beltre or Dirk were starting out, so there is more potential for more people to want a Luka or Tatis in their collection when they get older as compared to Beltre/Dirk. This said, any potential would be quickly drowned out with all the parallels and copies out there of the nee guys.
Thats a great point about more young people today than 20 years ago. Definitely could impact things long term
Damn how many variations do they make on the same exact card. That’s so crazy. I can’t imagine these lasting in value long term with how much they are putting out.
How much does recency bias play into this?
Are there more young collectors than old? (Potentially driving up the price for current players?)
Can you do a video or provide a link to a video talking about short term collecting?
Thats the interesting point to make for modern, there are more collecters than ever right now watching these guys play.
Yeah I plan to do a short term investing video at some point soon
Another great video! I rarely buy new player cards (though I do buy new sets) unless it’s someone I really like (Baker Mayfield, Shohei Ohtani, Sebastian Aho to name a few) .. I’m 85% collector; 15% investor .. I don’t plan to sell my cards - I like them too much .. they’ll be for my kids to sell when I die which I do keep in mind (that’s the 15% part).
I agree 110% every year more "parallels" I like when there is no more then 10 just like 999 500 100 75 50 25 10 5 1 is the best, My mahomes Pink refractor I love but I sold off the one I REALLY liked was his rated rookie refractor, but hey I still have a Mahomes rookie /99...
Some great points. It is so easy to go after the new shiny Tatis over something old and less attractive, such as the Beltre or Favre rookies. I just wonder how much upside some of those older ones really have? I think some of them have already topped out. I just don't see people paying more, even in 5-10 years, for some of them. I mean, maybe a little more, but not enough to tie your money up putting a bunch away. I don't know, I guess you just really have to get the right ones. Great vid!
Spot on. It's ridiculous the prices some pay for guys who haven't had a cup of coffee in the show yet...
The one thing I think that is left out of this equation is the number of people in the hobby and the amount of “fresh blood” in the hobby as far as investors and young people with money. Supply is much much higher now but also the demand is much much much higher. I do think that there is an element of “fomo” when it comes to the fact that people can’t afford the greats after they become the greats. And lastly I think with PSA and BGS being they way they are currently. People are holding and waiting to grade cards. Creating a artificial “shortage”. Prices for current NFL rookies in raw condition are much much much higher than past years.
Great video I'm not in the sports cars market but I been thinking about it and looking at things closely and to me it is quite amazing the amount to parallels to the base rookies in ultra modern product it just seems REALLY insane quantities plus the added gamble of hoping the player becomes an all time great. With that being said I do like the Long game on collectible much more than the short so will personally be looking at vintage great rookies who are already proven for value thanks you love your channel
OUCH! This video is so well done, well presented, concise, and logical that it makes me ill. 😂 And I say that as a long term investor who has plenty of vintage and even more than plenty of ultra modern.
This perfectly captures the data for the current environment which is ever evolving and definitely hard to correlate and make sense of at times (in terms of card values).
Seriously well done. A masterclass in what it says - straightforward long term investment advice in this wacky point in time in the hobby/industry.
Parallels give the illusion of scarcity. Even if the pop count of each color parallel is relatively low, overall the rookie pop count remains absurdly high, it seems.
This instantly became one of my favorite hobby videos. Thanks!
Hi Chris - Great way of pointing out how crazy it is that these young studs are being over-priced on their rookie cards. Another really good Video. have a good day. Barry
so glad you talked about this because the prices on some modern rookies are crazy. i would rather spend a grand on LeBron cards than any new rookie that could turn out to be "great but not an all time great"
I believe some of these prices are based on that we're all chasing the next Jordan,Brady and Trout.
Same reason people buy lottery tickets.
I don’t think you can call guys like Luka, Tatis, Acuna, Soto, etc, “lottery tickets.” Those guys are all in their early 20s and have already proven to be amongst the best in their sport. Which is why people pay a lot for them - because they ARE young and with each MVP, AS vote, ring, their cards will go up even more, and they have another 10-15 years of that to come. I agree some of the prices are nuts, but there is still a lot of meat on the bone for their cards considering how young they are and how much more their cards will still go up IF they stay healthy… which is a big if for sure.
I started collecting in 1989 and still have many of those cards back when Gregg Jefferies and Ken Griffey Jr cards were close in value. Times do change. Anyone remember the pandemonium of the early 1990's when Beckett prices were going all over the place and people were speculating on multiple unproven players you get kind of a feel when people get way ahead of themselves. I think the same thing happened earlier this year.
This is simply the best sports card collecting content out here. Thank you.
Great info. It's all about the price you get into them for. I will never understand someone being willing to spend $1,000's of dollars on a rc card of a young player.
Another solid video. Keep 'em coming. I love the very candid, no-frills approach. I think its also interesting to consider the demographics of sports fans when looking at card value. As an example - there was a gallup poll out (a few years ago, however) that showed the largest % demographic for NFL fans was the 18 - 29 yr old. That age group will likely gravitate towards their current favorites inflating the value of more modern stars. Same could be said for NBA. I'm curious to hear more from you on the current value of vintage as a long term investment especially some of the iconic topps sets. I dabble in both vintage and modern but tend to collect or hold the vintage more.
Hey thanks for the vid! A hockey example in the future would be nice.
Absolutely spot on. And I agree with the "why" you feel this way. Your knowledge and expertise is second to none.
Great, great video. Your channel is so awesome. I stopped trying to understand why modern is worth so much more than vintage. It has more to do with the latest and greatest, which is our society today. Such as previous year iphone is worthless.
Thanks for doing this video. It’s mind boggling how all time greats are a fraction of some of the new stars.
Great video !! Needed to hear this. Thank you man. Keeps it in perspective.
This made me bearish on modern. Great video!
When I started collecting it was Sean Kemp that was the new dog. Just bought a box of his rookie year for 35$ Canadian. About 23$us... Great advice Chris. Appreciate ya man!
It was probably Chris who sold them to you-he picked up like 100 Fleer Shawn Kemp rookies in a recent lot purchase
@@irisht5132 no no, I just bought a sealed hobby box of 90-91 Hoops.
I understand your point and it is well taken. I personally believe that you missed very valid perspective. To be an investor is to also have an exit strategy in mind. Otherwise, you are a collector and these conversations don't matter. To have an exit strategy, you must heavily consider the buyer. Your target buyer profile matters. Collectors/investors now are getting younger with expendable income. They are excited about current/recent players. Yes, Favres record will be better than Herbert, but is your potential buyer more excited about Favre (whom they never saw play) or Herbert? The card is only worth what someone will pay for it. Yes, invest in proven results but similarly (and arguably more importantly) keep the potential buyer in mind as well.
Great point for sure
@All Time Sports Cards agreed. I am not saying that those players won't command top dollar. My statement was not exclusionary. My point was that there are different types of buyers. In my opinion, there are more hobbyists that will flip within 10 years than there are those that hold for decades. My point is to know your audience. The guy buying the Herbert is not the same guy buying the Mantle. Both exist. There are more Herbert buyers than Mantle buyers. Know your buyer. Im not saying he's wrong. Im saying that the choice isn't binary......
@All Time Sports Cards absolutely. Your strategy should depend on your goal. If you are going to hold for 10+ years, then the proven players make more sense as they have a higher floor but lower ceiling. If you are flipping sooner or like to gamble more, get some nice rookies with lower floor but maybe higher short term ceiling... Both are valid and viable...
A year later, Dirk Finest PSA 10 $80 Luka Optic PSA 10 $215. I do believe Luka's career will outshine Dirk. New Dirk POP 747. New Luka POP 5,171. You lost 50% on Luka and 78% on Dirk. Favre also had his scandal which no one could predict, destroying his values.
Awesome video!!! Unbelievable how many parallels Prizm put out!!!
This video made me go to ebay and add Tim Duncan 1997 rookies on my watch list. Low pop count era of cards and some cool looking ones too. Ya the refractor versions can be pricey but still some nice ones for less than a few hundred.
1st of all if anybody counted all the Herbert prizms u are a G
2nd seems to me the established HOFs are a better bang for ur buck Chris u made a lot of sense in that the young players might fizzle out to be above avg or avg players
It gave me a idea that sum of my favorite players from the major 4 sports that aren't HOFs that sum of their cards might be got for nice low prices thanks for the info
Vintage proven winners will always win in the end. Best collectors video ever made.
i'm honestly more curious as to what this makes you think about the Hofer's prices. it might actually be the hardest pill to swallow here as it pretty much says holding long term is meaningless as well and i really don't see an inverse happening.
Good analysis, but I think basketball is different. Barring injury, a great (not just good) young basketball player tends to remain great throughout their career. The trouble people run into with investing in basketball players is that they think the player will improve linearly every year. For example, people claim Brandon Ingram will be the next KD. If that were the case, he'd already be one of the best in the game instead of a borderline all star.
One of the all time great videos I've seen on Card Collecting! Great Job Chris!!
Wonder where the bulk of the demographic is for people spending big money on cards. That might have something to do with why the older players are bringing less money.
I was going to make the same point, when i first started collecting my stepdad had a Micky Mantel, somewhere between a psa 3 and 5, i forget. anyway his eyes lit up when showing me, but i had no connection to him never seen him play, so to me it was like yeah wow great card. A Farve he was good a while ago, newfans and collectors have no connection to him, so when the money gets spent it's logical that new young money flows to the stars of today, I think that is proven by the baseball players you showed, they were our overpriced rooks of then, i remember having them and being like surefire HOF
Well said. It’s also true that on an absolute basis sports evolve and today’s players (as a whole) are always better than yesterday’s.
You hit the nail on the head in this video. You have some of the best videos on UA-cam. I wish I could invest in you as a UA-camr.
Would definitely buy your rookie, lol & hold it long term as your quality of videos has been incredible and im sure your popularity will as well.
Haha! Love it :)